From the Cards blog: Hoping to get some inter-site discussion going!
by mojowo11 on Feb 2, 2009 2:11 PM PST
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Hi M's fans,
I'm a reader/poster over at VivaElBirdos, the Cards blog on SBNation. I just wrote a long FanPost about Jarrod Washburn and the possibility of the Cardinals and Mariners being trade partners. I was hoping maybe some of you guys could chip in and provide a view from the other side.
My FanPost is here: LINK
Sorry if this kind of FanPost is verboten around these parts. If it is, feel free to delete it, and I apologize.
I hope some of you will provide insight, however. I know that if I were looking for honest, open, critical thinking about the Cardinals, I wouldn't look to the media, I'd look to VEB. My thinking is that while I can certainly go read around the Seattle newspapers, it's probably a better idea to get the input of you guys, the fans, who can be more open about what the team is doing/should be doing, etc.
Thanks!
-mojowo11
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Yes please
we would like nothing back. Wait, were you going to give us someone? Cause that would be cool too.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 2, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Shhhhhhhhh
They seem willing to give up talent. Play along.
by marc w on Feb 2, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In the Cubs-themed fanshot, they all wanted to give us Rich Hill for nothing.
Odd. Very odd.
by Zygomorphic on Feb 4, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn for Pujols, straight up.
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on Feb 2, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SUBJECT LINE
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I intentionally didn't include one to torture JI.
by Fin on Feb 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
99.99999999999% of us aren't JI
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by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a short joke
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by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well now I'm confused
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by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If 99.99999999999% of us weren't JI
given the 1 person that is, there would need to be 100,000,000,000 of us.
by Vatinius on Feb 2, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're excluding the possibility that JI might be multiple people
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or that some of us might be fractions of actual people
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by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Very good point
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm multiple people
That’s been proven over and over
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are confusing multiple people with retarded again
by Robert on Feb 2, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love you too
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Despite that I'm banned from USSM I'm still just a ridiculous experiment by DMZ
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You may have Washburn with our compliments
and all we ask in return is written acknowledgment that there’s no givebacks. You take him, you got him.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Can't post there yet - 2 day waiting period/background check
So I’ll put it here:
A thousand times Yes. Whatever the cards want to give, I’ll take.
Given that your scenario involves the cardinals sending talent to Seattle as well as eating the salary, how about a low-level prospect – De La Cruz, Craig, Hooker. Hey, great point over at VEB about Washburn’s solid ERA in the AL – this’d be a win-win deal.
by marc w on Feb 2, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd take a hooker in exchange for the Cards taking Wash and his salary away.
Let her strip the tar off bats or something.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
by abender20 on Feb 2, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd settle for a bottle of Albert Pujols' ball sweat
Given that Wash’s contract is why we cant sign Abreu/Dunn/other decent bat.
by Vatinius on Feb 2, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You will use any excuse to make a photoshop.
Not a bad thing, though.
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on Feb 2, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, ew it's dark don't want to think about it.
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on Feb 2, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With JI's gifs and your photoshops, LL knows no bounds.
Small and manageable sig
by Taylor H on Feb 2, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are discrediting Jeff's GIFing prowess.
His are better anyway.
by Mariner John on Feb 2, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected
Small and manageable sig
by Taylor H on Feb 3, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a background check for VEB?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Feb 3, 2009 6:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing there isn't one here.
There’d be a few less around.
You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.
by Sentinel on Feb 3, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me just say a few things
1) Jarrod Washburn is mediocre
2) He would help the Cardinals
3) Why not just sign Ben Sheets?
It all depends on how much money is in the STL budget and what their options are. I wouldn’t mind trading Washburn for Ryan Franklin or one of the small other bad contracts, or a project like Duncan who makes less money.
by JI on Feb 2, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Washburn an innings eater and durable?
Something Ben Sheets isn’t?
by Fin on Feb 2, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
...Or we could just be nice to visting people and try to have a real conversation.
by JI on Feb 2, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I am just trying to think how a GM would think.
I am assuming the Cards GM isn’t stats savvy, and those could be selling points GMZ would use to try to unload Washburn.
by Fin on Feb 2, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Sheets talented and effective?
Something Jarrod Washburn isn’t?
by The Ancient Mariner on Feb 3, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm willing to demand Colt Sedbrook in exchange for Washburn
Anything else is gravy
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Goddamn it was stupid to keep Washburn.
It’s not even realistic to unload him on the Cardinals.
by JI on Feb 2, 2009 2:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rasmus appears to be a spare part.
We’ll take settle on him.
by Wilder. on Feb 2, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They can always get Edmonds back to replace him.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
by abender20 on Feb 2, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"I just wrote a long FanPost about Jarrod Washburn and the possibility of...."
$$ SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! $$
by ThundaPC on Feb 2, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You're not going to have much luck here dude
Everyone here is salivating to crucify Washburn for being an average pitcher who gets paid a bit too much. Honestly, I’d much rather keep Washburn than Silva or Batista (who I would dump for nothing) and I think that GMZ ought to get a little something in return if he trades the Burninator.
We’re not going to be helpful or rational though, because we’ve all gotten used to the idea that we’re going to suck because we can’t afford to sign Abreu… and we can’t afford it because we have too many midling to crappy pitchers making $10 per year.
by johnbai on Feb 2, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think that GMZ ought to get a little something in return if he trades the Burninator.
Given the market, he has negative trade value if he dealt and the receiving team assumes the full contract.
by JI on Feb 2, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I'd much rather dump Silva, considering he has 3 years left on his contract.
by redwolf75 on Feb 2, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
uh
Honestly, I’d much rather keep Washburn than Silva or Batista (who I would dump for nothing) and I think that GMZ ought to get a little something in return if he trades the Burninator.
I think he agrees with you as does any sane human
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 2, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn hasn't been average since 2005.
by Graham on Feb 2, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really...
or has the defence behind him just been below average?
by johnbai on Feb 2, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really really.
Would I give you defence dependant information? :(
by Graham on Feb 2, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I looked it up afterwards
So Washburn was a TINY bit below average his first two seasons as a Mariner… assuming we define average as 2 wins above replacement. Close enough to average in my book.
by johnbai on Feb 3, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn is closer to career death than Moyer
by Jeff on Feb 3, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Missed the Simpsons setup,
which could have ended with
“The also hits on teenagers”
“…”
“That’s bad.”
And it would have been a new cross-apply for the Washburn pedophilia meme.
by Matthew on Feb 3, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always knew you would blossom as a funny person.
by JI on Feb 3, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm putting it altogether this season!
by Matthew on Feb 3, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn is tradeable
The other two are not.
by Mariner John on Feb 2, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Silva is better than Washburn.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Feb 3, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
You guys should just sign Sheets—Zoidberg is familiar with him after all. Don’t get suckered in by this. Cardinals fans are generally devious by nature and they are only looking to fleece you. They say they want Washburn but then they’ll make a move on King Felix. Beware—run far away from this as fast as possible.
Time is an illusion--lunch time doubly so.
by snowyman28 on Feb 2, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's as good as ours
vivaelbensheets
by vivaelpujols on Feb 3, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to remind you of your own post...
by Vatinius on Feb 2, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, one exception.
But that’s the only exception.
by Fin on Feb 2, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Felix will cost a minimum of Pujols
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by pdb on Feb 2, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've still got a gut feeling that
Washburn’s gonna use this defense and this outfield to eke out a 3.xx ERA by mid-june and some stupid organization, thinking that Washburn’s “turned a corner”, is gonna give up an actual, honest-to-goodness prospect for him, only to see him crash and burn.
If Zduriencik manages to do it with Washburn (and heck, while we’re dreaming, Silva) he needs to get the goddamn 2009 Nobel Prize in something.
by craig3410 on Feb 2, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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