Hulett DFA'd; Jack Z grabs another Brewer
by Teej on Feb 15, 2009 1:29 PM PST
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Tuglett has been designated for assignment, says Geoff Baker. Obviously a few of those middle infielders were going to go away, but I was surprised to see it happen before spring training.
Also of note, Zduriencik grabbed Luis Pena off waivers from the Brewers, say LaRue and others. Sounds like he's got some control problems -- he walked nearly as many as he K'd in 49.1 innings at AAA last year -- but maybe Z and Co. think they can work with him. He's a big dude, and he can definitely miss some bats.
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Nice little pick up
Looks like he induces a ton of GB’s as well. Yay for K’s and GB’s!
by faceplant_04 on Feb 15, 2009 2:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd be quite surprised if Tuglett gets claimed on waivers
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Huh....
I get it, but I don’t get it.
The M’s have a few middle infield possibilities now with Crabbe and Corona, but both seem better suited to 2B. Maybe Hulett does as well, but he played the plurality of his games at SS last year, and it seems like it’d be nice to have someone to plausibly push Yuni.
Hulett isn’t great shakes, but he’s still a ‘SS’ with a career OBP damn near .400. He’s been a bit old for his league, but then he’s not a prospect per se. He’s also not Mickey Lopez. Seems like the kind of guy who was clearly above replacement level.
On the plus side, Pena’s a GB pitcher who misses bats (and the strike zone)… a low risk. medium reward type of pick up. On the other hand, Pena is older than Hulett and still hasn’t had success above AA…
by marc w on Feb 15, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ronny Cedeno is going to push Yuni at SS.
And Ronny Cedeno’s potential is >>>>> Hulett’s potential, both in the field and at the plate.
by Wilder. on Feb 15, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Knew I was forgetting someone.
That’s totally right, Cedeno’s potential>>>>>Hulett, and he may be a better all around SS right now than Yuni.
by marc w on Feb 15, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but I did like Hulett's LH bat.
by Matthew on Feb 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Odds are still incredibly high though that he doesn't get claimed on waivers and is back with the team ASAP
I don’t understand why everyone is freaking out about this- we got a nifty relief arm and odds are very high we don’t lose anything
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The reaction seems to be a lot more
OMG TUGZ GONE
then “Hey, we just picked up a reliever with awesome stuff and some command problems but high upside and we dfa’d our 3rd string utility infielder who will likely clear waivers and be resigned to a minor league deal anyway”
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This thread?
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
An example of said reaction being...?
by Matthew on Feb 15, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that the majority of the comments in this thread are about Hulett being gone not Pena coming?
Huh….
I get it, but I don’t get it.
The M’s have a few middle infield possibilities now with Crabbe and Corona, but both seem better suited to 2B. Maybe Hulett does as well, but he played the plurality of his games at SS last year, and it seems like it’d be nice to have someone to plausibly push Yuni.
Hulett isn’t great shakes, but he’s still a ‘SS’ with a career OBP damn near .400. He’s been a bit old for his league, but then he’s not a prospect per se. He’s also not Mickey Lopez. Seems like the kind of guy who was clearly above replacement level.
On the plus side, Pena’s a GB pitcher who misses bats (and the strike zone)… a low risk. medium reward type of pick up. On the other hand, Pena is older than Hulett and still hasn’t had success above AA…
This disappoints me a little
Hopefully if he gets claimed by somebody, he’ll get a shot to see what he can do
Shin-soo Choo is now a right-handed reliever with mediocre command.
Yeah, but I did like Hulett’s LH bat.
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
etc
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This disappoints me a little
Sounds like a freakout to me
by JI on Feb 15, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
Edgar for Pres needs to calm the hell down. There’s absolutely no need to get that worked up.
by Teej on Feb 15, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And
that qualifies as OMG TUGZ GONE to you?
by Matthew on Feb 15, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Either that or I'm tripping balls right now
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Hulett, especially after what he did in '08, but I doubt someone claims him.
Luis Pena seems really interesting. Groundballs, strikeouts and mid to upper-90’s heat. Seems to struggle with control vs. lefties. Horrible 2008 numbers, but hopefully he can rebound and turn into a Sean Green type pitcher for us.
by JLC on Feb 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Shin-soo Choo is now a right-handed reliever with mediocre command.
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by JY on Feb 15, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wut
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Feb 15, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Indirectly.
We traded Choo for Broussard, the Broussard for Hulett, and now Hulett’s spot on the roster goes to Pena.
It works out better logically if we trade Hulett somewhere. No one actually keeps track of roster spots.
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by JY on Feb 15, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hulett was a non roster player when we got him
When he doesn’t get claimed he will continue to be a non-roster player, so I don’t follow
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Feb 15, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless...
you mean that the initial trade was Broussard for a PTBNL. The press release from that time doesn’t seem to agree with that.
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by JY on Feb 15, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The trade was for Tug Hulett
But Tug Hulett was not on the 40 man roster when we acquired him. He’s still not
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake.
My only complaint about Baseball-Reference is it would be nice if they could list when players were added or removed from the 40-man.
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by JY on Feb 15, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This disappoints me a little
Hopefully if he gets claimed by somebody, he’ll get a shot to see what he can do.
by Edgar for Pres on Feb 15, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OMG they DFA'd Hulett?
Why the hell would they do that? Morons
by Graham on Feb 15, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I rest my case
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 15, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And we thought Zduriencik was so smart.
What a dipshit. I’m not giving this organization another dollar until they completely wipe out the front office and start fresh. I’m so sick of this.
by Teej on Feb 15, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean they still see LaHair as up-and-combing?
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Feb 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
How did no one notice this?
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
by abender20 on Feb 16, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why did he get taken off the 40 man
instead of a guy like Marwin Vega?
by Edgar for Pres on Feb 15, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There's still some mystery in Vega
Such as how to pronounce his first name.
by Mariner John on Feb 15, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He does have 'win' in his name.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Feb 15, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Habib Marwan
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
by abender20 on Feb 16, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to have a Vega.
It was also a mystery.
by msb on Feb 16, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you can remove guys that were added in order to protect them from the Rule 5 until a certain period of time after they are added
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 16, 2009 6:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Just seems to me that we have plenty of mediocre-average RP on the 40 man and we could trim that stable down first.
by Edgar for Pres on Feb 16, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's generally going to be a lot more bullpen turnover then backup infielder turnover over the course of a season
And it seems like relievers get claimed on waivers a lot more often than backup infielders
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 16, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but we have ~13 RP on the 40 man
Isn’t that enough? Over 30% of the 40 man roster is used on RP who individually make very little of an impact.
by Edgar for Pres on Feb 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a moot point really
The 13th reliever is about as likely to see significant playing time as the 5th middle infielder
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 16, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and frankly I don't see any reliever on the 40 man right now that can be removed that has less of a shot then making the team then Tug
that we would have wanted to remove
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 16, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cesar Jimenez would be the only guy I'd consider dropping at this point
and even that’s only because of injury concerns
Tug’s just more likely to clear waivers then those relievers- that’s all it comes down to
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 16, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop making multiple posts in reply to yourself
Use the Taylor H rule
by Mariner John on Feb 16, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think multi responses are fine.
I want to know his opinion and if it took him a few I’m totally fine with that. Each post had new thoughts that helped his argument and were appreciated.
by Edgar for Pres on Feb 16, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can they make room by putting a couple of these guys on the DL?
I was reading someplace that a couple of the pitchers coming off surgery were already having problems. I don’t know how the 40 man roster and the DL rules work in the pre-season.
by Kermit. on Feb 16, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The 60 Day DL starts April 1st
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by I'm NOT Corco on Feb 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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