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Rich Harden Appears to Have Signed with Texas

Take everything I said below about John Lackey and reverse it and you will come close to assembling the Rich Harden package. As mentioned, Harden made the exact same amount of starts (51) the past two seasons as Lackey did. Harden did throw noticeably fewer innings in that span, 290 to Lackey's 340, mainly as a result of a difference in approach. Lackey averaged 3.64 pitches per plate appearance the last two seasons, Harden was at 4.11. Strikeouts generally take more pitches to complete so it should come as little surprise to see the difference there. The important thing is note is that Lackey threw a total of 228 more pitches than Harden over 2008-9, the equivalent of one extra start per season.

Unlike Lackey, Harden's swinging strike rate is less trendy, partially due to the lack of data points in 2006-7. However, Harden had established a 11% rate in 2003-5 and was at 15% both of the prior two seasons. He would probably demolish Texas' hitters. Harden is also going to walk a good number of fellows. Interestingly enough, Harden's tendency to throw strikes is no worse than Lackey's, both hitting the zone about half the time. Harden is much more often to throw that first pitch for a ball though, but again, that's part of the deal with high strikeout pitchers.

Harden is also more of a fly ball pitcher than Lackey. Again, Harden is about the strikeouts so pitching up in the zone is part of that most of the time. All of this combines to give us the overall picture of Harden to Lackey, way more strikeouts, a few more walks and a few more fly balls. While Lackey's tRA* floated around 4.4, Harden's is around 4.1 though that came in a less offensive league. The difference between the two in terms of those figures is negligible. CHONE is slightly more bearish, also projecting Harden to be equal to Lackey in performance level, but Lackey's clear inferior in durability.

Even accounting for Harden's higher catastrophic injury risk, he grades out as being worth $12 million or so per year. To compare them directly, Harden's fair value over a four year deal would likely be around 4/44 compared to Lackey's 4/52. That Harden's health knocked that 4/44 down to 1/7.5 with an $11.5 million option is what made him a great target. An opportunity potentially (we don't know what went on, there may have been nothing reasonable Jack Z could have done) missed here and that the Rangers signed him makes it all the more painful.

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I am going to try to keep my emotions in check in this thread

So I will just say that this is highly disappointing and I hope Rich Harden gets bitten by a rattlesnake.

THAT’S RIGHT THEY HAVE RATTLESNAKES THERE HARDEN

by OlSalty on Dec 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

So...

What about Sheets and Bedard?

by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

Is it Sheets

or Bedard? If that’s the case, I’ll take Sheets.

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Dec 9, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Package deal

that way you might get 30 starts total.

by Edgar for Pres on Dec 9, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

So does being a flyball pitcher mean he will be prone to giving up more homers in TX?

I am sorry if this is a dumb question. I just don’t understand why someone sign with a team that would hurt his numbers to be quite honest.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 9, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

He wanted a one year contract to reestablish his market value.

You’d think he’d go to Safeco that would help his numbers but lets go to Texas instead!

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Dec 9, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to get Sheets

Just to watch Harden blow out his arm and have all the Rangers fans cutting themselves over what might have been.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Dec 9, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah....it's pretty quiet...

In the immortal words of Lloyd Christmas: “So you’re saying there’s a chance…”

by ManifestDestiny on Dec 9, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So what happens now?

Slot Silva back into the rotation and call it a season? SIGH!

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Dec 9, 2009 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Lackey should be happy

Between Harden and Wolf signing, a lot of the “upper tier” starting pitching on the free agent market just signed in places that Lackey wasn’t going to go.

It's a little wrong to say a tomato is a vegetable, it's very wrong to say it's a suspension bridge

by Trenchtown on Dec 9, 2009 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

It probably wasn't the buyout for the option

It’s only 1mil. Nothing about the contract seems like it should’ve fudged the deal for us.

I think the only reason this didn’t happen is GMZ values his plan B almost as much as he does Harden, so he felt comfortable letting him get away when the terms of the deal weren’t exactly to his liking.

Hopefully he’s got something good in the works, but this does kind of have the appearances of a mistake due to unnecessary lowballing unless he delivers elsewhere.

by OlSalty on Dec 10, 2009 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

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