On Josh Bard
Or On The Veteran Catcher Brought In To Challenge The Veteran Catcher Brought In To Challenge The Youngsters
So the Mariners gave minor league contracts to two former big leaguers today. One - Chad Cordero - sucks a lot. The other - Josh Bard - sucks a little less, but he's a 31 year old backstop who's hit .219 the last two years, so he clearly doesn't have a lot left to offer. Guys who get minor league contracts generally don't.
It's easy to build a profile of Josh Bard the player. Plenty of people, I imagine, already have. The upside is that he's a switch-hitter who makes contact, hits for a little bit of power, has a decent idea of the strike zone, and is familiar with a few guys already on the team. The downside is that he'll be 32 next year, he doesn't hit a whole lot, and he has a career caught-stealing rate of just 20%. As an overall package, it's not bad for a guy who's effectively free, but it's also pretty clear why he's effectively free in the first place.
There are, however, two things I'd like to mention here, things that I think work in Bard's favor. The first is this:
CS% as a Padre: 12% (31/258)
CS% as a non-Padre: 33% (52/156)
There is a very striking difference in there - Josh Bard the Padre appears to have one of the most woeful arms in the history of catchers, while Josh Bard the non-Padre seems perfectly fine. Now, I don't know all of the information here, and Bard cannot be completely exonerated for his lousy performance with San Diego. But it's worth considering that there might've been something systemic at play, something out of Bard's control that made his numbers look worse. Observe the case of Michael Barrett, who spent a lot of time catching the same Padres teams:
CS% as a Padre: 15% (20/135)
CS% as a non-Padre: 25% (100/408)
Then there's Mike Piazza, who was Bard's teammate in San Diego in 2006:
CS% as a Padre: 12% (13/110)
CS% as a non-Padre: 24% (410/1723)
And Rob Bowen:
CS% as a Padre: 11% (4/35)
CS% as a non-Padre: 23% (12/52)
For whatever reason, the evidence suggests that those Padres teams made things exceptionally difficult on their catchers. We can hypothesize why. Perhaps the coaching staff downplayed the importance of holding on baserunners. Perhaps the pitching staff didn't pay a lot of attention to first base. Perhaps this is all just statistical noise and there's not actually anything here at all. But Chris Young has allowed 137 stolen bases in 150 opportunities over the course of his career. Jake Peavy's at 118 out of 144. I think the biggest factor was the composition of the pitching staff, and even if you just take Young out of the equation, then Bard doesn't come out looking nearly so bad.
So that's one thing. I believe that Josh Bard's arm is better than his career numbers would suggest, as his rate has been brought down by spending time in San Diego. There's also a second thing.
I love a hothead. I don't know why. People with bad attitudes or volatile behavior drive me crazy in real life. But it's different in sports. Maybe this comes from watching so much hockey. I just get a kick out of watching professional athletes flip out, probably because it goes against the very definition of "professional" that's built into their job title. I like watching Chris Neil mouth off at any opportunity. I laugh whenever Philip Rivers starts screaming obscenities at opposing players, or fans, or nobody. And one of the only things that made some of those recent Padre teams watchable was the anticipation of Josh Bard reaching his boiling point. I have a friend who's a Padres fan, and we used to joke about it all the time. Josh Bard is an angry man. Or, at least, he plays like one. He's not happy about stolen bases, and he doesn't like popping the ball in the air, but he really, really hates getting called out on strikes. Josh Bard has struck out 252 times over the course of his career. 113 of those were called. And, if you ask Josh Bard, all 113 were debatable, because Josh Bard knows the strike zone, and if Josh Bard didn't swing at it, it wasn't a strike.
He has a temper you can set your watch to, and for some reason, to me, that makes him likable in the way that Rivers is likable. It's stupid, and it never gets you anywhere as a player, but it's entertaining, and on another level it's indicative of what's inside. People get on calm players from time to time for not looking like they care enough. No one's ever going to confuse Josh Bard for a player who doesn't care. Josh Bard cares, and he wants the world to know how much.
There was also this.
Overall, Josh Bard isn't much of a player. He's past his peak as a hitter, he's somewhere between average and bad behind the plate, and even if he breaks camp with the team, he'll be nothing but a footnote in Mariners history, a guy who kept a spot warm for someone else. But I still like the idea of having him around, both because he can do Adam Moore and Rob Johnson some good, and because for however long he's a Mariner, he won't be boring. Having Josh Bard in a game gives everybody something extra for which to watch, and when you're talking about a backup, I don't know that you could ask for much more.
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One of those years ended with Milton Bradley tearing his ACL while arguing with an umpire!
by seattlebruin on Dec 28, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
No, that would be Mike Winters
Who should have been suspended a lot longer than he was.
by Manzanillos Cup on Dec 28, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
A few stories we ran in 2007.
Opponents learning they can’t steal home
But the Padres are far more interested retiring hitters than baserunners. As Balsley noted, they’re doing a good job of it. They lead the majors in ERA and shutouts.
"I want our guys to be as good as they can be as far holding runners," Balsley said. "But if they are sacrificing stuff and command, it’s not worth it."
Opposing teams have stolen 17 bases in Young’s nine starts – a statistic that Young believes is overrated.
"Statistically, you are better off getting the batter," said Young. "Occasionally, you are going to get burned, but you are better off focusing on making the good pitch than the runner.
"Greg (Maddux) and I talked about it this spring. Less than 20 percent (actually, 17 percent) of steals lead to runs that wouldn’t have otherwise scored."
From what I remember, there was quite a bit of talk about the team’s inability to hold runners that year, and a lot of the chatter seemed to come back to Maddux in his professorial role. He stressed to the pitchers (particularly Chris Young) that if you’re focusing too much on the runner, it’s going to be harder to avoid a walk or a meatball, so they should just focus on the hitter.
by Teej on Dec 28, 2009 2:54 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I'm sure this is not what was going on
I cant claim to have watched many Padres games in 2007, but if this were the case, it would be incredibly stupid and not something a major league team could get away with.
This would never, ever, ever, ever happen
throwing out runners would be at 0% if they did this, not 15% or whatever they actually managed to get
by seattlebruin on Dec 28, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Seems like a good signing
He’s probably not going to be good again, or maybe even make the team, but there’s still some potential upside there.
Yeah I have to agree
The 162 game season can get pretty long without hot heads like these guys. Jose Guillen was probably one of the better signings that Bavasi made not because he was a great player but because he might shank everybody. The quotes from these guys tend to be journalistic gold also. More please.
On a more serious note, I would be a little surprised if he actually breaks with the team after spring training.
Philip Rivers is my favorite player in the NFL.
At the risk of repeating the Brett Favre “he’s having fun out there” cliche, Rivers acts like a really talented 10-year-old on the field. A lot of people don’t like that, of course, but I think it’s fantastic. I love a good shit-talker.
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I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 28, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Make it spin, make it spin!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 28, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
The Corinthian!

De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 28, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for excellent Sandman reference.
no lead is safe.
by sanford_and_son on Dec 29, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I have an issue with a qb talking shit
If anybody else on the field talked trash they’d get their ass kicked by the 11 huge beasts on the other side of the ball. Not only does Rivers have 5 huge guys who’s job is to protect him, he also has the refs on his side making sure nobody messes up his hair.
Rivers would act a little different if he actually was exposed to true NFL hits like a running back is.
by Edgar for Pres on Dec 28, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
And the rest of the guys on the field have the ability to protect themselves, unlike a quarterback.
Rivers takes his hits.
Good point. Wide receivers and running backs seem to always keep their opinions to themselves.
by Sec 108 on Dec 29, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions 8 recs
This comment deserves to go green.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 29, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
You don't think they pay for it?
Terrel Owens got hit extra hard all the time for all the shit talking he did.
by Edgar for Pres on Dec 29, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Well you took the position that players at running back act differently because of fear
of retaliation. I was merely pointing out that you were wrong.
I think it is a deterrent
I agree it doesn’t stop it at all but I bet less guys do it because they don’t really want an angry defense ruining their season.
by Edgar for Pres on Dec 29, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
It's ex-Nationals day for the Mariners!
Funny how this day seems to roll around once every two years or so.
Jigsaw falling into place
I hopw we'll get another Veteran Catcher Brought In To Challenge The Veteran Catcher Brought In To Challenge The Veteran Catcher Brought In To Challenge The Youngsters
I'm sure Pat Borders is not terribly busy
by Matthew on Dec 28, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But his wife is
Pumping out kids. They must be up to a soccer team by now. Complete with subs.
by wandergeist on Dec 29, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
Back to the olden days of 7 catchers...
Falling, fallen, we all fall down, it only really matters how we stand our ground
If and when we rise to our feet again, we'll be on our own
-Tomas Kalnoky/Streetlight Manifesto, If and When We Rise Again
by kentcheesehead on Dec 29, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Blast from the past
The best thing about that linked story ("There was also this.") is that it literally begins and ends with Hiram Bocachica. The saddest thing about the video is that it’s a late May night game in Pittsburgh and from the looks of it a ball hit into the stands would bounce around for a while before somebody got over to pick it up. Your average local little league game has better attendance.

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