Mariners Set To Trade Carlos Silva For Milton Bradley
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 18, 2009 9:31 AM PST
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PrintLarry wouldn't lie to us, would he? And Larry wouldn't have lousy sources, would he?
Source: Mariners will trade Carlos Silva to Cubs for Milton Bradley, may be announced later today
Don't go too crazy, as this is the first we've heard of it actually happening. But...
Update: Official per Drayer
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AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!
So amazing. I worship the ground Z walks on.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 9:34 AM PST reply actions
c.500 PAs each of the last 2 seasons
Who knew? Not I. At only 31, he must be serviceable but… where? Griffey platoon & 11 pitchers?
Nicht verstanden.
How much money are we sending them?
we win if it’s anything less than like $14M, right?
Oh never mind, I'm retarded
for some reason, I thought Bradley had one less year left than Silva
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed about the not going too crazy thing
but this isn’t the first time it’s been mentioned. This rumor has been around for a while. This is the first reliable and “it’s happening” sort of mention though.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 18, 2009 9:36 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Jinkies!
That’d be quite a move. Wonder how much money’s moving…. it’s possible that it’s zero, which would make this pretty much the most amazing thing ever.
How could the Cubs possibly do that, though?
Silva is owed like $4-5M more than Bradley, and Bradley is pretty clearly the superior player
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
They hate Bradley in Chicago.
He’s been a cancer in their locker room. So, who knows? We’ll have to wait and see.
by sirbrianwilson on Dec 18, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
So you're saying Zduriencik didn't get 100% of what he asked for?
Huh. OK. Let me know how that works out for you.
Milton was perhaps my favorite player as an Athletic
To see that the Mariners appear to have shed Silva for him quite literally made me jump out of my chair and yelp.
It feels like Christmas morning
how sweet it is to be an M’s fan right now.
Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?
I can totally see why the Cubs would do this
I have quite a few friends in Chicago, and they all blame Bradley for the badness of the last Cubs season. It’s not logical, but they never want to see him again.
Yeah Chicago fans are just full of hate for Milton Bradley
and now they’ve got Carlos Silva! So let’s see how that works out for them
Bradley is blocking them from making other moves, and no other clubs have shown interest that wouldn't cost them lots money and thus ability to sign a replacement
And the last thing they wanted was to keep him for next season.
This is just kinda trading one asshole for another, isn't it? But at least Bradley can contribute.
no lead is safe.
by sanford_and_son on Dec 18, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions
There was a fair chance we were going to cut Silva if this didn't happen
Instead we get a talented player who we can also cut if he sucks/is bad.
I care less about the asshole part, and more about the sucks/is bad part.
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Is Bradley really that much of an asshole?
It seems it was just a reaction to the spotlight in Chicago.
In Texas, though, a similar market and situation to Seattle,
I don’t remember him having many issues at all.
He just needs to be treated with care.
Getting him into a quiet market could help. There are virtually no expectations here thanks to the nature of this trade and his coming off a “bad” year, and columnists aren’t going to lay into him if he goes on a cold streak. And I trust Wak and Griffey to get him onboard the happy train.
It’s interesting, if nothing else. I don’t think he’s volatile enough to ruin the clubhouse. He’ll be dropped if he becomes a problem.
Ron Washington wanted him back last year
""I ain’t never had a problem with Milton because I was always honest with him," Washington said. “If I didn’t like what he was doing, I let him know. I didn’t let anything fester with Milton. All Milton wants is people to tell him the truth, to be honest with him. He’s no dummy. He knows when he’s [screwing] up.”"
I should have given more to the GMZ appreciation fund.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
These are like video game moves...amazing.
I fucking hate you Mariners
He's a new hybrid player.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
I'm so confused
GMZ must be a very good blackmailer. I love blackmail.
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You're gonna love Bradley!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Fangraphs
Bill James projects Bradley to be a 3.0 WAR
Our offense just jumped to about 23 WAR; not bad
Blow it up! BLOW IT SKY HIGH!
He's probably going to DH so the positional adjustment will bring that down
But considering Silva was completely useless that’s maybe 2 WAR for nothing.
And the '20' assumption included someone else at DH who you're subtracting
So bring it down another 1 WAR.
Well I shouldn't say he's only going to DH
He probably plays LF a bit too while Saunders gets the hang of things.
Even in the best scenario, though, his ABs replace someone else's
And their contribution still needs to be subtracted
Yes, but also the money that would have gone to signing that person can be used in wins elsewhere
Assuming this didn’t cost us anything/very much.
Well, a portion of those ABs will be Griffey's.
So you wouldn’t have to subtract much there.
by Manzanillos Cup on Dec 18, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
We were essentially replacement level at DH as it was
Between Carp and Griffey, so you don’t really have to do much to see the value here.
by spikefriedman on Dec 18, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Cliff Lee's trade really felt like Christmas
Now it feels like the Christmas where you get everything you want…
I think this is more like the Hanukkah of offseason's.
Multiple days of the best possible gifts.
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*offseasons
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As a Cardinal fan
You guys have officially become my AL team. Milton Bradley the OPS leader of 2008 in the AL for Silvia. The Cubs now have Silvia. This is glorious.
Silva.
But yeah, what an awesome trade.
Holmgren would have drafted Crabtree.
by Fearless Frog on Dec 18, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Can someone Smarter than me tell me how this affects the roster?
I assume Bradley is the DH and Saunders is the LF. You have Langerhans as the 4th OF. A bench of Hannahan, Hall, Griffey and a back up C. That’s 14 players which would mean an 11 man staff (which is cool if true). However, we really are missing a backup SS. I don’t trust Jack Wilson’s health enough to go with Hannahan and Hall as the two backup options. Are those two good enough defensively to play 20+ games there?
If this move is true I feel like one of either Saunders or Langerhans has to go. Especially since Bradley is an average LF. I know Saunders can be in Tacoma another year, so that’s a possibility. He also has trade value, and Bradley + Langerhans can probably hold down LF until Ackley is ready. But if we decide to keep Saunders on the 25 man roster and get rid of Langerhans, what happens? Was his contract guaranteed? I have a hard time believing they signed him without knowing the Bradley thing was coming.
We still have Josh Wilson stashed in Tacoma
And we still have room in our budget to make some other moves.
by spikefriedman on Dec 18, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
That's all well and good
But I worry more about Jack Wilson missing 2 games here and 3 games there. Where he doesn’t go on the DL, making it hard to bring up Josh Wilson.
I'm quite confident Hannahan can be a competent shortstop
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what?
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I don't think he'd be good or even average defensively at SS
but is there a chance he could at least play competently enough to fill in every now and then?
Pretty much
I could run him out there once every couple of weeks, and expect him to not completely embarrass himself, but counting on him to back up SS is not something I’d want to do. Scarily, I’m totally in favor of Figgins/Josh Wilson in that scenario.
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Then Hannahan plays SS
That’s what he’s there for.
I'm just not confident in his ability to play 20+ games there over the year
I could be wrong though, he could be an average to slightly below defender there.
If he sucks it up and its more then 5 games.
DL Wilson bring up other Wilson.
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 18, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
That's really his upside at SS defense though, is average
which would be totally awesome, since we know he’s non-embarrassing at 2B and pretty good at 1B/3B. But do you really want someone with an upside of average defensively who is likely not that good to be your primary backup SS for a guy who gets hurt a lot?
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
This actually adds to the budget according to Cot's Contracts.
Silva is owed $11.5 in both 2010 and 2011. Bradley is owed $9 in 2010 and $12 in 2011.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Larry disagrees
“There is no immediate word if the Mariners will send money in the deal to make up any of the $4 million difference. I doubt it. The Cubs were pretty desperate to move Bradley and might have had to release him if they couldn’t.”
by Brian Floyd on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
One of the things I love most about this move
is that it’s going to piss off all the “we need nice guys that love their grandmothers and volunteer at the Humane Society on our team” people. Fuck ‘em, Bradley’s a great pickup and no more Silva!
YES YES YES!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
Bradley has anger management & authority issues
but he loves his mother and grandmother, and may well volunteer at the Humane Society.
The best part is that even if Bradley is horrible and hurt
it’s not like you’re losing anything. This is literally a no-downside trade unless Bradley stabs Ichiro or something
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
All I have near me is plastic and a fake-wood desk
is that good enough?
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure you could find some real wood around here right now.
by abender20 on Dec 18, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I make this joke endlessly with my wife.
It never grows old.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
It will.
When you do grow old, and you can’t.
by marinerdan on Dec 18, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I love this move!!
So glad to see Silva gone, and to get someone with actual talent in return? I’ve not doubted GMZ, but even after the Lee trade I would never expect anyone to take on Silva willingly. Bradley can be a cancer, but I think some Griffey tickles will fix that. Or maybe Bradley will stab him..
Griffey is the reason this works
Because he can be a mentor to Bradley and keep Bradley from going ballistic. Another plus is that Bradley is always tradable
I would say that Bradley is not always able to be traded
Considering that the Cubs were so desperate to move him and were considering cutting him because nobody showed interest
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by tootthekazoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Like I was tryiing to say on USSM before it melted
I have a lot of faith in Wak being able to head off any attitude problems. I think the man could probably have a second career as a lion tamer, he’s so calm.
I do hope Bradley fights the Moose at some point, though.
by Jeff Nye on Dec 18, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
And hopefully, this might be one of those Patriots-style teams
where you get a bunch of good clubhouse guys/Wakamatsu and then you can bring in a guy who caused problems elsewhere and he’ll do better in that kind of atmosphere.
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Hear Hear on that Sentiment!!!
I work up in the sweets and my coworkers and I have had many brushes with that moose. And I must say, he’s a real asshole most of the time when he’s not entertaining kids.
"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson
by Willie Mays Haze on Dec 18, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
My bet?
Bradley splits time at DH and LF. Saunders is LF/4th OF.
There’s a trade yet to go, to get rid of one more OF.
Yeah so we can pick up Adrian Gonzalez
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
Makes logical sense
But there’s still 3 months to worry about all that.
Our outfield just became marginally more dispensible, which improves the outlook for any more trades in the infield/rotation.
Not an ounce of downside.
Zero risk. I can’t get over this. I thought this was a terrible rumor all along, something someone came up with in a fit of boredom.
In fairness we don't know how much money is changing hands
I doubt we don’t send a couple million with Silva
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To me, it almost doesn't matter, but yeah that is a factor
I hate Silva to the degree that Cubs fans hate Bradley, but with the difference the Milton Bradley is actually a major league baseball player.
I don’t think we’re likely to be sending much, though; the Cubs don’t have a ton of leverage here.
Exactly. My guess was no money would trade hands, since the Cubs have the bigger headache to relieve.
by lemonverbena on Dec 18, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I love that their hatred of Bradley makes this impossible deal possible.
Thank you Cubs fans!
Cubs fans! Carlos Zambrano was mopey last year too! Mopey mopey mopey! Said he might retire!
We’ll take him off your hands in exchange for a PTBNL. No no, I insist… we’ll eat his entire contract. Your money’s no good here. You’ve got to think about the future, and can’t have sullen pitchers hanging around, taking up all your payroll.
What are friends for?
I don't understand how this is real`
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Eh I enjoy the Brock and Salk show.
Radio on from 11-3, then off again.
Agreed
Brock and Salk are good times. I listened to them on Monday as the details of the Lee trade were slowly coming out and Jake announced he was coming back. I listened to the Calabro show that same day and all he wanted to talk about was how much the Seahawks stink. I was disapointed in the man.
"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson
by Willie Mays Haze on Dec 18, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
He's cancer, nothing but rabble rousing. Can't turn him off fast enough
Hopefully more people stop listening and he goes away.
Oh wait I'm thinking of Cowherd, that guy is awful
I’m not familiar with the Calabro show, my apologies.
Art Thiel was going to be on Kevin's show yesterday to talk Lee and other potential M's moves.
Calabro wouldn’t let Thiel get a word in edgewise. Shot down Shannon too, after they kept telling him why Jason Bay was a sucky fit for the Mariners. I like both Drayer and Thiel, and thought they may have something to add or some news to break, but Calabro made me switch to music pretty quick.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I was stuck on 520 and listened to about 10 minutes of this
It was the single worst talk radio experience I’ve ever had.
He's terrible at his show
Thankfully I don’t see him keeping it for very long, since he misses at least 2 days a week during NBA season to do PxP for ESPN NBA games
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Haven't heard his show.
But I’m disappointed to hear that he’s a buffoon. He truly is the best basketball play-by-play guy I’ve ever heard.
by Manzanillos Cup on Dec 18, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
He's just not good at this specific job
He’s amazing at play-by-play, but can’t interview or carry a non-basketball conversation for more than 23 seconds
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I feel like he's at his best when he's doing radio
as in when he simulcasted the Sonics games. He’s still good on the national tv scene, but he doesn’t have near the same electricity as when he had to describe the game to radio listeners.
But yeah, I can’t listen to his show for fear of tainting my memories of him and Marques. Just not his thing
Calabro's show blows.
He can’t help but revert to bringing up basketball every 30 seconds, in completely unrelated topics. Hosting a radio show isn’t really his thing.
Holmgren would have drafted Crabtree.
by Fearless Frog on Dec 18, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I like how Calabro bitches about soccer on his show
despite the fact he’s the play-by-play man for Sounders FC.
I was surprised by how angry the man was.
I tuned in expecting to hear his shout “good golly miss molly” and “flying chickens in the barnyard” about the good news of the day. Instead he kept harping on the Seahawks. I doubt anyone in the greater Seattle area gave a crap about the Seahawks on monday.
"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson
by Willie Mays Haze on Dec 18, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Calabro is the worst.
He’s good at play-by-play, but holy crap he’s the worst analyst ever. They should recruit Dave Grosby from KJR to do that show, since that’s KJR’s only worthwhile guy.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not usually awake then, so I'd rather he take the afternoon slot.
But I realize more people could listen to the radio in the morning.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Salk is pretty good. The show itself isn't bad until they start taking calls.
Then right when Kevin Calaboro comes on, you put your music back on.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
here you go
It’s best to ignore Northwest sports radio until 11 AM or so.
by pdb on Dec 18, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kind of hard to constantly check your phone for sports news while driving.
It’s doable, but if Brock and Salk are on, I know I’ll catch anything important.
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I like Brock and Salk.
They have good chemistry and actually talk about meaningful things and don’t go off into idiotic tangents
Holmgren would have drafted Crabtree.
by Fearless Frog on Dec 18, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I WANT Z'S FACE ON THE MOON THAT THE THREE WOLVES ARE HOWLING AT
by marc w on Dec 18, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HE IS GOING TO JOIN ME ON THE LLAMAPILLAR!
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 18, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
RIDE IT/HIM TO THE FUCKING MOON!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
GET ON HIS HORSE, HE'LL TAKE YOU 'ROUND THE UNIVERSE
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Dec 18, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder when the press conference will be
to announce Russel Branyon’s 1/2 year contract with a post-All Star break option.
Fine.
I wonder when the press conference will be to announce Russell Branyan’s 1/2 year contract with a post-All Star break option.
Sex Cannon works well too.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
Bradley has a bad reputation, but Silva isn't an angel either.
Silva signed a huge contract and immediately started training at every buffet in the US and South America.
He was also the leader in 2008 of the “Ichiro is selfish and a cancer to the clubhouse brigade.”
This is a good trade for the Mariners and could be a wash trade for the Cubs.
YOU MEAN YOU WANT HIM TO FUCK YOU!
JACK BENDS OVER FOR NO MAN!
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 18, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
WE WILL DO IT LAYING DOWN WITH CANDLES, ROSEBUDS AND SHIT
by Robert on Dec 18, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
What purpose does the shit serve?
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That's not fucking
That’s love making
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by tootthekazoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Jack would be the one doing the pitchint in that scenario
You might want to say:
“I want to BE fucked by Jack Zduriencik”
That way you’d feel like a MLB GM.
They're not just trying to make a playoff run, they're trying to break 116
by Graham MacAree on Dec 18, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
So why hasn't GMZ been going after Nick Johnson to help fill the offensive gaps on this team?
It doesn’t make sense. He’s a good fit for the team, reasonably priced, and fits the profile. GMZ should have been busy knocking down his door.
What’s this you say? He’s been convincing the Cubs to trade a useful player in exchange for one of the worst contracts in all of baseball? Well GIDDYUP
Hey Rocky! Nothing up my sleeve!
And now for something you’ll really like!
by Kermit. on Dec 18, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This offseason is almost too much to comprehend.
I feel like I’m autistic.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 10:12 AM PST reply actions
This is exactly how I feel.
I can do nothing but sit down, stare wildly around the room and hit “z” on my laptop. Over. And over. And over.
"z" for Jack Z?
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
How would people feel about
Trading Brandon Morrow for Matt Gamel? I know it’s come up before, but Rosenthall speculated they might be looking to revisit the deal (much the same way they did in this deal, which is AMAZING). According to a source of his we are trying to trade Morrow for a corner infielder.
Bradley ruins teams everywhere he goes
Put me in the skeptical category. Cubs have been trying to dump him going back to last year. Maybe being arounf Griffey will help, but he’d be also taking away someof griffey’s ABs. And likely step in the way of saunders development. Now we are trying to trade morrow for acorner infielder? Is it me or are we selling out the young talent for one big run in 2010?
Bradley didn't ruin the Cubs.
Bradley seemed to do well the year before in Texas.
He burned bridges in
Cleveland
LA
Oakland
Chicago
by MagicMike23 on Dec 18, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
We added a hitter who needs coddling
Griffey will do less of what he’s bad at and more of what he’s good at.
by Attractive Nuisance on Dec 18, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
He didn't do himself any favors with the Rangers
For all the talk about him being a great hitter, he was basically a loafer who would decide to be in the line-up whenever he felt like it.
Granted he was probably protecting himself for a big contract, but he made some quotes last off-season about not giving his all with the Rangers, because the Rangers weren’t seriously about signing him long-term (which is a crock of shit; our owner was broke). Kinda rubbed some people the wrong way.
But you all have him for two years. He’ll bitch about not getting enough playing time in the outfield and hurt himself somehow.
Don’t get me wrong. He’ll be a highly-valuable asset. But you’re foolish if you don’t expect some baggage
by oc on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think we all expect baggage.
Even with that considered, this is a great pickup for the team.
Hi there. Your views are refreshing.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 18, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
The more AB's Bradley takes from Junior, the better.
Here am I talking like this has already happened. MAKE IT SO, JACK!
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We should trade Griffey to the Braves.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 18, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I hear he likes it in Atlanta.
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Yeah, because having shitty, overpaid Carlos Silva around is so much better than having shitty, overpaid Milton Bradley with upside around
by seattlebruin on Dec 18, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Ding Dong, Mr. Buffet is gone, the wicked buffet is gone
Ding Dong! Mr. Buffet is gone. Which old Buffet? The Wicked Carlos Silva!
Ding Dong! Mr. Buffet is gone.
Wake up – sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, Mr. Buffet is gone.. He’s gone where the goblins go,
Below – below – below. Yo-ho, let’s open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong’ the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Carlos Silva is gone!
Rosenthal & Morosi yesterday
“At least three teams remain interested in Cubs outfielder Milton Bradley — the Rays, Rangers and Mariners. However, no trade is close, according to major-league sources.
The Rays and Cubs have been at an impasse for weeks, with neither side willing to budge on the terms of a proposed Bradley-for-Pat Burrell exchange. The Rangers, one source said, remain a "longshot" for Bradley, who would fit well in their lineup, but did not leave on the best of terms after the 2007 season.
The Mariners, meanwhile, might be an even bigger longshot — the team, after making positive news with its signing of free-agent third baseman Chone Figgins and trade for left-hander Cliff Lee, likely would balk at adding a player as controversial as Bradley. "
Trading Silva for Bradley is postive news in my eyes.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
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I think he meant sometimes as a reporter Rosenthal will get it right (win some) and sometimes he will get it wrong (lose some)
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I replied to the wrong comment.
I understood gregrabble.
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Silva for anything useful would have been a plus, no? JY or someone posted his winter numbers the other day.
He’s still a pile of suck, I figured he’d get cut before the season started.
I.... so the Cubs CHOSE Silva over Burrell.
They picked an ex-pitcher over Pat Burrell. What the fuck is going on?
How much cash?
Again, Burrell is a baseball player. Silva USED TO BE a baseball player. I just cannot fathom this from the Cubs perspective.
The idea was that they’d just cut him and eat the salary… so unless they had to pay 100% of Burrell’s AND Bradley’s salaries, I still don’t see why Burrell+cash is worse than what they did.
I love what they did!
Drayer says official.
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We sent 6mil to Cubs
Heyman says 6mil, Paul Sullivan of Chicago Tribune says it’s 6 mil as well after offsetting of the salaries.
Did they say when we were sending it?
Was it $3 and $3 each year, or just $6 million up front?
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Hmm, so that's really just a $3.5 million raise in 2010 Payroll.
Bradley being owed $9 million this year, and Silva being owed $11.5. So now we’re paying $15 million for Silva’s old roster spot…still leaves us with plenty of cash, and makes more sense to do it this year actually with Bradley’s raising contract in 2011
by BrettJMiller on Dec 18, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Whoa, I didn't realize quite how valuable he was in 2008.
I knew he had a .423 wOBA, but I didn’t realize that translated to 4.5 wins even after the DH positional adjustment.
Ya he was quite a stud.
Is that park adjusted though?
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 18, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Was he DHing in '08?
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 18, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
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