Changing-The-Subject Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 14, 2009 7:31 PM PST
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PrintWe're probably not going to learn anything new about this deal today so it's time to talk about something else for a little while in order to avoid all the cabin fever. Word has it that the Red Sox and Mike Cameron have tentatively agreed on a two-year deal worth around $15m or so. Cammy will receive regular playing time, and as a second-tier acquisition, budget room remains for Boston to make a move for Adrian Beltre should the Mike Lowell situation get cleared up.
If you take a team, and you hate that team, and then that team loads up on players you love, do you hate the team less?
I would've thought so, but faced with the reality of the situation, it feels more like the team is just nailing the snot out of ex-girlfriends you wish you'd never let get away.
Mike Cameron and Adrian Beltre are two of my favorite players of all time. God damn you, Boston, for tainting at least one of them, and quite probably tainting them both. I don't deserve this, and I hope you burn for it.
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I like SPAM and pineapple sandwiches
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I can see them hating Cammy but Beltre's probably going to own that Green Monster and be awesome
>:(
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 14, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Even though I love Adrian and want him to do well I'm anticipating being annoyed at people bitching about how much he sucked while he was here.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Then to make a .360 OBP he better get beaned a lot
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 14, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Of course he's going to get hit.
Every team hates the Red Socks.
by Kirk on Dec 14, 2009 9:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I am most worried about Beltre putting up solid numbers in Fenway
And having to watch Beltre webgems every goddamn mother fucking day.
I keep telling
My devout Redsox fan to stay the fuck away from Beltre and if Boston signs him, I’m going to punch him.
I think the guy you hate nailing your ex girlfriend analogy is especially apt, I love Belte and Cammy and only want the best for them – but, not if my worst enemy is now nailing her.
Agreed.
I think the Red Sox have overthrown the Yankees as the douchiest team in baseball.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
I hate the Red Sox because of their fans.
I hate the Yankees for our history against them in the playoffs.
I hate the Yankees because they are the Yankees.
But I agree with you about the Red Sox fans. The team itself is actually pretty fun to watch and hey, they have the rich version of Billy Beane as their GM.
by Johnny Slick on Dec 15, 2009 5:45 AM PST up reply actions
So the Red Sox are the anti-Royals
stocking up on the great, underappreciated Mariners. Damn them.
by stupidquestions on Dec 14, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply actions
Because Jeremy Reed was supposed to be awesome maybe?
Also, >:(
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
This reads different than I meant it to.
The subject line means to imply that people might be cynical about prospects because of failures like Jeremy Reed and the >:( is in reference to the fact that I loved Jeremy Reed.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Paul B. on USSM:
“Just had a thought, maybe Saunders isn’t in the trade. would the M’s have non tendered Langerhans if they knew Saunders was being traded?”
Comments are not rumors
and Jeff was joking.
...and now I'm here
At some point during the season Beltre is going to hit a game changing double against us in the 8th inning.
While in the 9th inning, with us down by 1 because of said double, he’s gonna make of his patented bare handed throws to rob Ichiro or Figgins of an infield base hit, and then Cammy will rob a game winning homer from somebody a few minutes later.
Then I will cry.
FUCK THE DBACKS!
And Cliff Lee will have a no-no leading into this 8th inning.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
I'm just gonna be pissed when people say stuff like
“Now he’s actually living up to his contract!” because of a couple extra homeruns. I cannot believe how many people think he was worthless with us, pfft, ignorant fools.
Carlos Silvelite
"They always get better when they leave"
I can hear them now.
by stupidquestions on Dec 14, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Has he ever played first?
Little League, High School, whatever. Not exactly a demanding position.
Makes him way less valuable and way less worth the money.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
...exactly
Don’t know the market well enough though. Know the Cards have purportedly made a semi-serious offer.
Can you backload incentives?
More thinking of Branyan/Johnson etc.
I love you, Jeff.
Way to perfectly describe how I feel.
Fuck this...
I’m from Boston and I’m sick to my stomach. Particularly about Adrian “Scrotum” Beltre.
Is this somewhat analogous to the swiping of the Sonics?
Don’t know whether to love or hate KD. My heart says yes, but my head says no.
No. Cammy and Beltre in Boston is annoying. Losing the Sonics is a death in the family.
by lemonverbena on Dec 14, 2009 8:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, something that happened in 1963 is too soon for us.
Stick to 19th century assassinations only and you’ll be fine.
by Matthew on Dec 14, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Boy let's hope they don't get ahold of Jose Lopez
by SeattleFigginsFan on Dec 14, 2009 8:31 PM PST reply actions
Papelbon.
How someone dropped on their head as baby that many times became a closer, I’ll never know.
I can love players separate of their team.
I just watch them and root for the others to fail double.
this is how i see it (like you care)
Boston fans are by far the worst, of that I’m sure you’ll all agree.. But at the same time, damn their front office knows what its doing. They value defense, they (for the most part) make sensible moves.. I can’t stand boston but any club that appreciates the true value of a cammy or a beltre is doing something right.. Hate em or love em, I respect the way they run their org
Too close for missles, switching to guns.
by Paseman on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
When I lived in the area,
Red Sox fans were some of the best you’d ever find. I still can’t wrap my head around them being so reviled.
Most Boston fans that Seattlites encounter are from Seattle
by Graham MacAree on Dec 14, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yankee fans were Yankee fans because the Yankees were always good.
But being a Red Sox fan was like a pox.
I think it's just that the Sox are good now
and especially attractive to a certain personality type.
Yeah, and that personality type is a personality type I generally dislike a great deal.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
(Being as the team has a large budget and good management)
It would be weird to hate nuevo-Mariners fans.
Most real, long-term, non-douchebag Red Sox fans I know hate bandwagoners.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah it's definitely possible to hate members of your own teams fanbase
I dislike many parts of the Mariners fanbase right now and we haven’t even really won anything yet to attract the real douchebags.
I hate most baseball fans.
At least the baseball fan part.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I've liked the actual long-time Boston native Sox fans I've met.
I hate just about everyone in the Bellevue chapter of Red Sox Nation.
If and when the Seahawks are ever good again
we can enjoy the influx of new, opinionated and trollish fans on Field Gulls.
As a kid, no one I knew liked the yankees.
Then 1996 happened.
New York was a Mets town in the 1980s, too.
The issue I have with Boston fans...
…isn’t really about the bandwaggoners. Fuck the heck, every good team has those. My issue is how, after they won their first World Series and even after their second, they were still going around whining about The Curse. Guess what, Sox fans? You never get to talk about the Curse anymore. Ever. It’s done. You’re now just another team in the league.
Time for a new curse, like the goat or whatever the Cubs have (which is, unlike the Red Sox who have put up some decent teams throughout the years, is more a testament to decades of bad management than an actual curse). Or perhaps the Curse of Diego Segui.
by Johnny Slick on Dec 15, 2009 5:52 AM PST up reply actions
That was less the fanbase than Dan Shaughnessy and his friends
who don’t count. Curses are meaningless and stupid and any reasonable long term Sox fan will tell you the same thing.
"Any reasonable long term Sox fan."
I couldn’t get a hold of either of them.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 15, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
The Red Sox don't bother me, so I don't really care. I'm happy for Adrian and will root for him.
I hate the Angels and find the Twins to be annoying for reasons I’ve never been able to explain. Other than that, I couldn’t care less who signs my favorite players.
Yeah it must really suck to have to deal with the thought of your favorite player going to Boston.
by Robert on Dec 14, 2009 10:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm so glad you're here for me, Robert.
But I’d still love Cammy (and Beltre) even if he joined al-Qaeda.
Damn
Cammy is still one of my favorite five Mariners, along with Edgar, Ichiro, Felix, and Griffey.
It’s going to be really tough rooting for him in a Boston uniform. Oh well, at least I’ve still got great memories of him as a Mariner—taking back Jeter’s home run back in 2000 (was there for the game), being an All Star/Gold Glover in the awesome 2001 campaign, and last but not least, his last home run on Fan Appreciation Day 2003 (and yes, I did get the ball :D).
Still, I’ll cheer for him every time it doesn’t hurt the Mariners.
Actually, I don't remember disliking many Boston position players.
Pedroia and Ellsbury maybe. I can’t stand the pitchers, but I’ve never had a problem with most of their hitters. So I think I’ll be okay. Plus, if Boston fans hate them, I already hate Boston fans, and if Boston fans like them, then Hell Yeah! Way to appreciate their awesomeness!
...and now I'm here
Also don't forget Tug Hulett
...and now I'm here
I hate Boston, but I will hate them less with Beltre and Cammy.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I have no problem with two players I love going to a winning team and a run environment
where they can put up the all star numbers they’re capable of. Thing is, I don’t hate the Red Sox. They have a lot of players I rather like and enjoy watching*. I hate their fans.
So, as long as they’re beaten out of the playoffs by the Yankees (and as things stand I don’t see how they won’t be) its ok. The closer they are, the greater the heartbreak.
*Well, at least they have had. Right now I can only think of Lester and Drew and maybe Wakefield but Cammy and Beltre will add to the list.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 15, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions
I think that out of respect to Mariners fans they should have cut Varitek around 5 years ago.
It’s just criminal that to this day we have to be reminded of the Heathcliff Slocumb trade.
by Johnny Slick on Dec 15, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
This has been mentioned before but...
Better Boston than Anaheim.
by Johnny Slick on Dec 15, 2009 10:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Red Sox don't bother me
Or, at least, the team doesn’t bother me; their fans do.
With the Angels, the team bothers me (and Scioscia).
With the Yankees, it’s both.
Edge to New York.
Danny Blanchflower Lives!
Californians bother me.
They steal all of our good real estate locations and smell of feet.
by Johnny Slick on Dec 15, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
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