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Jon Heyman Says Phillies, Blue Jays, Mariners Have Agreed To Trade That Brings Cliff Lee To Seattle

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Uh.

Source.

I'm going to go ahead and think about this one for a little while.

Good gravy. My hands are shaking in the same way they were back when we trade for Vidro, only this time I think they're excited.

Update: I don't know what this means but Heyman seems to be backtracking just a little bit.

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Update #2: Heyman's words:

The Phillies are in agreement on a three-team trade with the Mariners and Blue Jays to acquire star pitcher Roy Halladay, SI.com has learned.

So, we're involved. We just don't know for sure who we're getting. Probably Cliff Lee, but it's no guarantee.

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Oh lord, OH LORD

Felix followed by Lee? I LOVE YOU Z, I FUCKING LOVE YOU.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Dec 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Almost?

This kicks the crap out of that

by njd.aitken on Dec 14, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if you're a Husky fan.

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Dec 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Listen to this man, for he is wise.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Wowowowow

All is forgiven for missing out on Harden.

by njd.aitken on Dec 14, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

I’m not excited yet, until I know what we lost.

Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle

by appleshampoo on Dec 14, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets wait and see what was given up for Lee

At least Ackley can’t be traded yet as a PTBNL.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 14, 2009 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

Hrm.

“sorry, quick trigger finger. #mariners definitely the third team. checking now with cliff lee is the pltcher they get.”

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME?

by wilsonpdx on Dec 14, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, right?

Seems like kind of an important piece of this deal to get wrong…

by TheTank123 on Dec 14, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

....

My heart can’t take that

by njd.aitken on Dec 14, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

HOLY BALLS!

That is all

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Dec 14, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Nope

This one. Our heating ducts have been fucked the past couple years,

by edddgar on Dec 14, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Jack Z's two big acquisitions so far this winter are both have World Series rings.

Surely he knows that this is the only way for the Ms to win one as well.

I hear Glaus is still available. And he should act fast and grab Matsui before the deal is final with the Angels.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Dec 14, 2009 1:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

You need the veteran leadership to win in the postseason.

That’s why the Ms always fail.

I mean, Raul never won with the Mariners, but he goes to the Phillies after they all get their rings, and then he wins with them in 2009.

That’s because they had the experience of being in the postseason pressure.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Dec 14, 2009 1:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I would build my own Zduriencik fathead for my wall.

I would spend hours gazing into that shiny bald head.

by edddgar on Dec 14, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Longest minute ever

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Dec 14, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

I DON’T CARE ABOUT TOMTOM SAT-NAVS OR NON-PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, TELL ME ABOUT THE MARINERS

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Dec 14, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone please post whatever he says here

No radio available

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Dec 14, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No offense Paul

but I see very little reason to do so

by Matthew on Dec 14, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree because they are rumors and deserve skepticism.

Jason has done a ton for the blogging community though in terms of giving it a legitimate voice through other media much like Dave has. I am just bored with how he gets treated since he is a very good guy.

by Sec 108 on Dec 14, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn't exactly have a history of being right about these sort of things

So when the rumors are based on something he reports you sort of have to mention it so people don’t get the wrong idea.

by OlSalty on Dec 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

People used to get upset because he would report rumors as fact.

Now he is pretty careful to say “my source says…” etc. He’s more legit than a lot of the rumor-mongers out there.

Last.fm me!

by lailaihei on Dec 14, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed, but sometimes they are legit.

If he has the trade pieces right today I’m pretty sure he was the first to report it.

Last.fm me!

by lailaihei on Dec 14, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's wrong Paul.

I’m just saying we’ve heard that before and it’s been wrong. Without knowing the source myself, there’s just no reason to trust Jason at this time.

by Matthew on Dec 14, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine.

I know who his source is and I trust his source. That’s all I’m going to say.

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!

by PositivePaul on Dec 14, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I buy it

Churchill has always defended Gillick tooth and nail and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was partly because he was friends with one of Pat’s underlings. But you gotta understand that saying trust him dot dot dot is not really reassuring.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 14, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The Yen has been doing well against the US Dollar.

Maybe the Mariners’ owner opened up his wallet to cash in on the exchange rates.

by Wilder. on Dec 14, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Uhhhhh................wow.

1-year of Cliff Lee or 2-years of Cole Hammel (contract wise)

What to root for!?

by ThundaPC on Dec 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Hamels

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Dec 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

And resign Beltre, branyan and a DH

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Dec 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Hamels

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 14, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It's going to suck when we get SARS from this trade.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Dec 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

saunders, amount and gillies? Does Toronto want all our Canadians?

by arbeck77 on Dec 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope we didnt give up Ramirez.

Would be sad to see him go…even if its a good deal for us.

by Slica on Dec 14, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

JC

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 14, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Ramirez hasn't done as much as we've made him out.

He’s basically been an exciting arm that’s kept his head above water for the past year in High Desert.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 14, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess.

Maybe he wanted to break the news early without blowing the cover on the trade?

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 14, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

So wait, are the Phillies sending prospects to the Blue Jays in this deal as well?

Because if not, wouldn’t the Ms just trade for Halladay?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Dec 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Sports radio sucks

A guy just said Halladay won’t grow into a good pitcher. What the fuck?

by edddgar on Dec 14, 2009 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

Rapin' Rabin?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Dec 14, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Raben.

And not until his knees are good.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 14, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

No!

Langerhans.

I know he’s not as good, I just really like to say his name.

by ungoreatstefan on Dec 14, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy Shit

Churchill is saying three players are going, none of whom are Saunders and Morrow.

This can’t be true, can it?

by tait644 on Dec 14, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Time for ownership to bump up the payroll next year.

Especially if we’ve decided to win now and in the future.

by ThundaPC on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

very slim...

Lee was rumored to be asking for 23M per from the Phils and would go to FA if he didn’t get it.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Heyman twitter:
im being told #halladay will agree on deal with #phillies, which would finalize trade. but not likely to happen today,

by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

COCKTEASE!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Dec 14, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't mean we won't know the details

We knew all the details about the Granderson trade a day or two in advance and it took the Figgins deal a few more days to be finalized. Not a big deal.

by edddgar on Dec 14, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Felix, Ackley, Saunders and Guiterez

but look on the bright side the team signed Loafie to an extension…

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 14, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a longdrive to Texas

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 14, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

sweet...

you better get here before Friday, if not you got to find me in the Caribbean

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Besides, any trip south is better than being in the cold right?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Make sure all the rules are being followed

While everyone is talking about cockpunching. Way to be the preschool teacher!

Emerald City Funk Machine

by blackvanilla on Dec 14, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Cockpunching is a legitimate subject on LL

chatspeak is not permitted on LL under any circumstances. You might note that since laxtonto is a reasonably well known guest poster, a few of us simply posted “no chatspeak please.” It’s a very simple request and well within the rules of this site.

by seattlebruin on Dec 14, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

More than anything, I'm stunned by how this came completely out of nowhere.

There were rumblings of a 3-way with the Philies and the Jays earlier today, but when did news drop about the Mariners being the third? 15 minutes ago?

by xero3k on Dec 14, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

Absolutely

I sat down with my lunch, saw that, and started at my monitor with my mouth open for a full 15 seconds.

by xero3k on Dec 14, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Mostly amazing because it's hard to be frustrated when all of a sudden

“hey we traded a broken reliever for a five-win CF and lots of other things? AWESOME!”

by seattlebruin on Dec 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Why were you surprised we were in one everyone

Lee is someone, ergo, we were in on him

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...

If you read Fan Shots, it looks like Ken Rosenthal was on to something yesterday.

by Wilder. on Dec 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK THE NATIONALS UNTIL STRASBURG PANS OUT INTO SOMETHING GOOD.

Seriously though, this is SUCH a “WTF?” moment right now I actually feel dizzy.

Jigsaw falling into place

by esoteric on Dec 14, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's see if anything comes of it just yet.

And I somehow doubt the Nats draft Harper. Call it a hunch.

Jigsaw falling into place

by esoteric on Dec 14, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Not even sure he will enter the draft next year.

He is a junior in high school and needs to graduate early to enter (which he apparently is on track to do, but it’s not guaranteed).

by Wilder. on Dec 14, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He went the JC route, and will play at a Nevada junior college this year

and all JC players are auto-eligible for the draft (yeah, it’s a stupid loophole, but a lot of shit about the MLB draft is stupid so…)

by seattlebruin on Dec 14, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

pLEEse don't jinx it!

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Red Sox sign Lackey to 5/85?

Ewww, I’m really glad that wasn’t us.

FUCK THE DBACKS!

by Goose on Dec 14, 2009 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Like anyone even cares anymore

Not the first time the Mariners have stolen Boston’s spotlight!

by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 14, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

And not the happiest either.

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Dec 14, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Sucks to be an Angels fan

Lose Lackey and any opportunity at Lee or Halladay while watching the Red Sox and Mariners get better.

by edddgar on Dec 14, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And they lost Figgins.

Haha they will be the 2008 Mariners.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Brock and Salk tweet:
Hearing if Aumont and Gillies are involved, then Moore and Morrow won’t be…

.

by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Is that worth Cliff Lee?

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I would give up Gillies, Aumont and Ramirez

AA OFer, Relief prospect (at least in our system) and a pretty ok prospect.. Nothing really making me upset there..

by seattlesundevil on Dec 14, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There has to be more

I think that Gillies and Aumont will end up in Toronto with Ramirez staying in Philly. But the Canadian factor is the only reason I think that.

by arbeck77 on Dec 14, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Carrera maybe

Him and Gillies are clearly better prospects than Carroll and Almonte though

by Graham MacAree on Dec 14, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Gillies is slightly better than Carrera but they're all 4th OF types anyway.

Gillies won’t be anything unless he learns how to make contact like Figgins.

Last.fm me!

by lailaihei on Dec 14, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, and yes.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 14, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Almonte is Halman Jr. and Carroll can't go two months without breaking something.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 14, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The only place I've seen that likes Gillies is the posters at Sickle's blog.

Hes patient at the plate but doesn’t have enough power to succeed as a major leaguer.

Last.fm me!

by lailaihei on Dec 14, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

They were stupid high on him.

Some had him as the number two or three prospect in the system.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Dec 14, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

TNT Tweet

http://twitter.com/TNTmariners

Source: Toronto getting Phil Aumont and Dominic Brown in 3-way Halladay/Lee deal involving SEA/PHIL and TOR

by Mariner Melee on Dec 14, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

CAN'T STOP CUMMING

Jigsaw falling into place

by esoteric on Dec 14, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Or Jackzulating

whatever.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Tell me this is something you just made up on the spot right now and I'll rec.

Fuck it, I’m rec’ing anyway. I spit out my food.

“Zjaculating” has to become a new term around here.

Jigsaw falling into place

by esoteric on Dec 14, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yea I did just make it up.

But I couldn’t help it. I think it calls for an urbandictionary definition.

Zjackulating - verb – uncontrollable ejaculation as a result of hearing news of a fucking awesome roster move made by Mariners General Manager and Vice President of Baseball Operations Jack Zduriencik.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

M's fan from PA

As an M’s fan who lives in Lancaster PA (1 hr and half west of Philly) a lot of my friends are phils fans. As much as they are happy with halladay a lot of them favor Lee over Halladay. On a better not thank you phillies for Cliff Lee!!!!!!!!

by ajgraham on Dec 14, 2009 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

hahaha yep its more than the amish but love the comment though ha

by ajgraham on Dec 14, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It still depends what we give up

But I don’t think the fact that we also need to extend Felix changes anything when it comes to trying to extend Lee. We have the money for both.

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Dec 14, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure, but even if he walks he's a Type A.

As Graham pointed out we’d be trading for Lee and two draft picks at minimum.

by BrianL on Dec 14, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

This is how I feel

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Dec 14, 2009 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

I messed up

on the link. I need to work on that.

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Dec 14, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

If this Cliff Lee trade is pulled of, December 14th is officially Jack Zduriencik Day in Seattle.

This is my facebook status. I recommend we start a movement.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

What is the type/

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind.

I swear I am not drunk posting.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I see it. Haha.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Dec 14, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

IDonf see one

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Dec 14, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

More names from Morosi's Twitter:
Source says Aumont (from SEA) and M. Taylor (from PHI) among players heading to TOR.

Gillies and Aumont seem to be the only recurring names.

by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Taylor's new though.

So far this is what I’ve found getting exchanged prospect wise…

Tyson Gillies (SEA)
Philippe Aumont (SEA)
Juan Ramirez (SEA)
M. Taylor (PHI)
Dominic Brown (PHI)

Would the M’s need to throw in more prospects if that’s the package?

by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That was my thought too.

If Toronto gets those five, the deal should go through.

by BrettJMiller on Dec 14, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

No idea.

They were likely to sign Halladay next year. Why would you get him a year early when you already have Cliff Lee?

by Wilder. on Dec 14, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Cut out the Yankees and Red Sox

If they’re the only team that gets to deal with him on an extension as part of this trade, they can lock him up long term without fear of other big market teams running up the bidding war

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on Dec 14, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems about right on Seattles part

It’s probably slightly less than what they gave up to get Lee.

by arbeck77 on Dec 14, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions