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Todd Zeile Hall Of Fame Fact Sheet

Yesterday, in discussing Edgar Martinez's chances of getting into the Hall of Fame, Larry Stone linked us to an Edgar fact sheet that was sent out by the Mariners to members of the BBWAA, a fact sheet that makes a number of statistical arguments to support his candidacy. It's an impressive document, but then, it isn't all that difficult to make one of the best hitters in baseball history look impressive. What I came away wanting to know is what these fact sheets look like for lesser players who also find themselves on the ballot. Thankfully, I was fortunate enough to receive a copy of a similar document in support of fellow first-time candidate Todd Zeile sent out by officials with both the Rockies and Marlins, an excerpt of which is shown below.

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Todd Zeile. I was skeptical at first, but I gotta admit, it really makes you think.

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Holy shit

Ray Durham vs. Rivera: 0-26

by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 25, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex Rodriguez: 3-15

Clearly not Hall of Fame material.

"you don’t drive in runs with base on balls."
~gitanoloco

by Goose on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Rockies and Marlins?

I was willing to believe it. I want to see what the Royals would write for Bloomquist.

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Right after you posted this and there were zero comments...

…my comment was going to be: “PHOTOSHOPPPED!!!!!”

But I let it sit for awhile first…

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!

by PositivePaul on Nov 26, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Other stats blantantly ripped from Wikipedia

*most home runs by anyone whose last name starts with Z
*committed the most errors of anyone in the 90s
*Only player to hit a home run for more than 10 teams (11)
*Last player to hit a home run off an Expos pitcher

Dude’s got some serious trivia…

Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle

by appleshampoo on Nov 26, 2009 12:05 AM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

My favourite has to be

In 1999, Zeile was part of a historic Rangers team. Along with Gregg Zaun and Jeff Zimmerman, he was one of three players on the team whose last names began with “Z”. Not since the 1916 Chicago Cubs had this occurred (Heinie Zimmerman, Dutch Zwilling, and Rollie Zeider).

by njd.aitken on Nov 26, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Heinie?

Awesome

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

That was a thing of beauty to read. I was not really a big statistical follower of the Mariners until Edgar’s older days, but damn, did that guy put up some beautiful seasons.

On a related note, did anyone else notice how often Todd Helton’s name popped up?

by moero on Nov 26, 2009 9:19 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, it was odd that Helton popped in about one position behind Edgar on a couple of those.

I can’t tell if that’ll hurt Edgar’s chances, but it seems to me that your average BBWAA voter might look and instinctively say “Todd Helton’s not a Hall of Famer,” and use that to dismiss Edgar.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 27, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions  

That's when we hit them with the Todd Helton Fact Sheet

In which we make the case that Helton is a Hall of Fame player, making Edgar look even better.

by Gihyou on Nov 27, 2009 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I stack up well against some hall of famers on some of these lists,

I’d be a shoe-in if only there were a team that would send out a fact sheet on me.

by Attractive Nuisance on Nov 27, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

My defense is impeccable

I have never made an error at any level. And although they will tell you that you can’t win just with defense, my runs saved / innings played is infinite, which obviously compensates quite well for my meager offensive stats.

by pygmalion on Nov 29, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I guarantee you that Zeile donated more than Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and Honus Wagner.

If that doesn’t earn HOF induction, I don’t know what does.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 29, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions  

Edgar's fact sheet

Edgar is put in a lot pools almost exclusively of HOFers where he is near the bottom. I wonder if a better approach might be to create pools with fewer HOFers but pools where Edgar is near the top, ahead of most of the HOFers in each pool.

"The holy grail is to spend less time making the picture than it takes people to look at it." -Banksy

by two_hands on Nov 30, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

No offence to Jeff

but I have no idea who Todd Zeile is/was and cannot wait for something new to be at the top of the page. C’mon Mariners, do something!

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Nov 30, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions  

Todd Zeile is two Chris Sabos.

The Chris Sabos are in sequence.

"The holy grail is to spend less time making the picture than it takes people to look at it." -Banksy

by two_hands on Dec 1, 2009 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

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