Todd Zeile Hall Of Fame Fact Sheet
Yesterday, in discussing Edgar Martinez's chances of getting into the Hall of Fame, Larry Stone linked us to an Edgar fact sheet that was sent out by the Mariners to members of the BBWAA, a fact sheet that makes a number of statistical arguments to support his candidacy. It's an impressive document, but then, it isn't all that difficult to make one of the best hitters in baseball history look impressive. What I came away wanting to know is what these fact sheets look like for lesser players who also find themselves on the ballot. Thankfully, I was fortunate enough to receive a copy of a similar document in support of fellow first-time candidate Todd Zeile sent out by officials with both the Rockies and Marlins, an excerpt of which is shown below.
Todd Zeile. I was skeptical at first, but I gotta admit, it really makes you think.
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My favorite part about the Edgar fact sheet is the part they threw in that says Edgar was 10x36 against Mariano Rivera.
"you don’t drive in runs with base on balls."
~gitanoloco
Highest OPS against Rivera for anyone with 10+ PAs!
1.888, against Aubrey Huff’s 1.229 in second place.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 25, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Holy shit
Ray Durham vs. Rivera: 0-26
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 25, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Alex Rodriguez: 3-15
Clearly not Hall of Fame material.
"you don’t drive in runs with base on balls."
~gitanoloco
really, how gullible do you think these voters are
to send out and ‘outs made’ factoid? that is some Olympic caliber contempt for audience
Lurking since 2006
I think he should get extra votes for being married to an Olympic Gold medal winning gymnast
His wife is Julianne McNamara who won a gold medal at the 1984 LA Olympics.
I must be tired...
I read that as “homophobic”…
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Nov 25, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
I'm guilty of that as well
And I spent at least 10 seconds trying to figure out how on earth they were homophobic before I moved on.
Me too, and I wondered briefly what the hell msb was talking about before forgetting all about it for a day until I read your comment
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
Rockies and Marlins?
I was willing to believe it. I want to see what the Royals would write for Bloomquist.
Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
by seattlecougar on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Right after you posted this and there were zero comments...
…my comment was going to be: “PHOTOSHOPPPED!!!!!”
But I let it sit for awhile first…
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Nov 26, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Well, it would be stupid of me to say "no" now.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 26, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Other stats blantantly ripped from Wikipedia
*most home runs by anyone whose last name starts with Z
*committed the most errors of anyone in the 90s
*Only player to hit a home run for more than 10 teams (11)
*Last player to hit a home run off an Expos pitcher
Dude’s got some serious trivia…
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
by appleshampoo on Nov 26, 2009 12:05 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
My favourite has to be
In 1999, Zeile was part of a historic Rangers team. Along with Gregg Zaun and Jeff Zimmerman, he was one of three players on the team whose last names began with “Z”. Not since the 1916 Chicago Cubs had this occurred (Heinie Zimmerman, Dutch Zwilling, and Rollie Zeider).
Heinie?
Awesome
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Nov 27, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
That was a thing of beauty to read. I was not really a big statistical follower of the Mariners until Edgar’s older days, but damn, did that guy put up some beautiful seasons.
On a related note, did anyone else notice how often Todd Helton’s name popped up?
Yeah, it was odd that Helton popped in about one position behind Edgar on a couple of those.
I can’t tell if that’ll hurt Edgar’s chances, but it seems to me that your average BBWAA voter might look and instinctively say “Todd Helton’s not a Hall of Famer,” and use that to dismiss Edgar.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 27, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
That's when we hit them with the Todd Helton Fact Sheet
In which we make the case that Helton is a Hall of Fame player, making Edgar look even better.
I stack up well against some hall of famers on some of these lists,
I’d be a shoe-in if only there were a team that would send out a fact sheet on me.
by Attractive Nuisance on Nov 27, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions
On my hall of fame fact sheet, I'm only 1 behind Ty Cobb on the "Beating a man with no hands" leaderboard.
50!
by joof on Nov 27, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's fun to go into the actual Hall of Fame at the hall of fame and just call people out.
“Racist, jackass, jackass, cheater, Yankee jackass…”
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 29, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
I have yet to make an out in the majors.
I’m a shoe-in.
My defense is impeccable
I have never made an error at any level. And although they will tell you that you can’t win just with defense, my runs saved / innings played is infinite, which obviously compensates quite well for my meager offensive stats.
I guarantee you that Zeile donated more than Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and Honus Wagner.
If that doesn’t earn HOF induction, I don’t know what does.
...and now I'm here
Edgar's fact sheet
Edgar is put in a lot pools almost exclusively of HOFers where he is near the bottom. I wonder if a better approach might be to create pools with fewer HOFers but pools where Edgar is near the top, ahead of most of the HOFers in each pool.
"The holy grail is to spend less time making the picture than it takes people to look at it." -Banksy
No offence to Jeff
but I have no idea who Todd Zeile is/was and cannot wait for something new to be at the top of the page. C’mon Mariners, do something!
Fuck Anaheim.
by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth on Nov 30, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions
Todd Zeile is two Chris Sabos.
The Chris Sabos are in sequence.
"The holy grail is to spend less time making the picture than it takes people to look at it." -Banksy

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