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Award Voting Incenses Frustrated Blogger

As much as people love to debate the Cy Young and MVP results every year, the problem is that rarely can anyone be absolutely certain that their suggested pick is the right one. There are so many different ways of evaluating who was the best pitcher or who was the most valuable player that, as much as fans live to call other people and especially the award voters stupid, these awards make it hard, because oftentimes there are so many different but legitimate arguments that there can be any number of players who seem deserving of the honor.

Fortunately, 11 years ago, Major League Baseball invented the Hank Aaron Award. The Hank Aaron Award is very simple. Via Wikipedia:

The Hank Aaron Award is given annually to the Major League Baseball (MLB) players selected as the top hitter in each league.

Where the Cy Young and MVP awards are always open for debate, the Hank Aaron Award leaves little room for argument. The Hank Aaron Award is to be given to the top hitter in each league. And the top hitter in each league is easy to identify. There are no questions about defense-independence or replacement level or performance in the clutch; it's just a matter of who hit, and who hit the most. Of all the awards baseball gives out, this is the one for which I would feel most confident submitting a ballot.

It's with that in mind that I'd like to point out that this year's AL Hank Aaron Award went to a guy who finished with the same park-adjusted wOBA as Jason Bartlett.

Derek Jeter was very good in 2009. Of that there's no question. But as a hitter, he wasn't more productive than Joe Mauer, or Miguel Cabrera, or Ben Zobrist, or Kevin Youkilis, or Mark Teixeira, or Alex Rodriguez, or Jason Bay, or Jason Bartlett, or Adam Lind, or Kendry Morales, or Shin-soo Choo, or Jason Kubel. Five of those players were approximately Jeter's equal at the plate, and seven were unquestionably his superior. In addition, for an award intended to go to the top hitter in each league, one has to notice that Jeter didn't actually finish #1 in any meaningful offensive category.

I can't think of a single reason why Jeter would've won this over Mauer, nevermind the other guys. Most of the time, when voting results look funny, you can point to a guy's ERA or RBI total and say "well that's why they did that." But here...what is it? Jeter wasn't close to Mauer in batting average. Jeter wasn't close to Mauer in RBI. Jeter wasn't close to Mauer in home runs, or OBP, or SLG, or even control of the strike zone. And while you'd think Mauer might've been penalized for being a catcher instead of an actual everyday player, just last season these people gave the Hank Aaron Award to Kevin Youkilis, who racked up all of 15 more plate appearances than Mauer did in 2009.

It doesn't make sense. It's not that I care, because I don't. It's just an award, an award that by and large is pretty much meaningless. No, the reason I'm posting this is that, at long last, it gives me the opportunity to say this with all the confidence in the world:

Hey, voters. You're stupid.

Over the next few weeks, we'll find out which players were awarded the 2009 Cy Youngs and MVPs. The results may seem fishy, and you may disagree with them. Just know that, however much you might think the voters got those wrong, it is impossible that you will be as certain of the wrongness of the voters as you can be today.

Derek Jeter.

Amazing.

Update: Turns out the voters for the 2009 Hank Aaron Award were - wait for it - the fans. I think I've found the problem.

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I share your feeling.

When they were announcing this at the beginning of the game, I wasn’t really paying attention. So I thought I must have misheard. Derek Jeter? Award for the best hitter? No, that can’t be right. Must be for the dreamiest player. Dreamy like Hank Aaron.

Seriously, my thought was that I had misunderstood the meaning of the award. That made more sense to me than that Jeter should get the award for the top hitter.

by b_rider on Nov 2, 2009 5:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Holy cow

I’ve never paid much attention to the baseball awards beyond Cy Young, league MVP, and because I like the Mariners’ streak, the Gold Gloves. So when I saw Jeter being given this award, and as I heard the broadcasters gush about how great of a guy he is and how he gives to charity, I assumed it was akin to the Roberto Clemente award. The fact that it recognized Derek Jeter as the best hitter in the American League is ridiculous. Crazy.

by katal on Nov 2, 2009 6:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Voters?

As repulsive as the idea may sound, MLB needs a BCS ranking type system. As long as “people” are casting ballots, prejudicial opinions, length of service, public familiarity, confirmation bias, and drunken moments of misguided accolade will all happen.

I don’t even dislike Derek Jeter. But I guess we’ll have to wait another generation or so until stupidity like ring counts, number of times that coincidental coverage of an otherwise blown play (yes, like “the thow”), or frequency of appearances on national TV have unwarranted impact. And I’m an old phart, but cannot take up with the veteran observers who cast ballots for top performers on notions other than performance.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Nov 2, 2009 7:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Because none of those things ever happen in the BCS.

And if you think the computer rankings are any better, this guy does one of them.

by Tube on Nov 2, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Thanks for the link. I was totally unaware of the Billingsley work. I’ll also concede that I meant that any model for selecting individual player goodness in baseball will probably have to include both variables and boundaries that are adjustable over time and frequency. Like the progress over the past ten years of defensive metrics – anything is questionable until it handles outliers and exceptions better than someone’s opinion. Maybe the BCS simile was a bad one to use.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who votes for this award?

Players, journalists, or some other group?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Nov 2, 2009 7:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Here you go:

“In 2000, the system was changed to a ballot in which each MLB team’s radio and television play-by-play broadcasters and color analysts voted for three players in each league. Their first place vote receives five points, the second place vote receives three points, and the third place vote receives one point. Beginning in 2003, fans were given the opportunity to vote via MLB’s official website, MLB.com. Fans’ votes account for 30% of the points, while broadcasters’ and analysts’ votes account for the other 70%.”

by msb on Nov 2, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Those are the two contingents that slobber over Jeter

if you define “fans” to be “the kind of casual fan that votes in an internet poll”, anyway.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Nov 2, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Bavasi.

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!

by PositivePaul on Nov 2, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

I was using The Google, enjoying the hits coming up saying Jeter? Mauer! and then saw this from Anthony Mccarron, NY Daily News

“On the same night that Derek Jeter was given the Hank Aaron Award, which recognizes the most outstanding offensive performers in each league, he authored a performance that might shut up anyone who thought he should’ve lost the hardware to Minnesota’s Joe Mauer.”

well, ok then.

by msb on Nov 2, 2009 8:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jeter may have gone 2-4 with an RBI and a BB last night, but...

Mauer went 3-3 on Jeter’s mom with a triple in the gap and a grand salami.

Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Nov 2, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I would like to have a record of who voted for who

for each award. It would make a good ad-hoc list of who to avoid reading from or listening to in the future. Also, it would be nice to see some of these guys held accountable for their votes. That’s a warning to those that don’t vote Blevylen into the HOF next year.

 I don’t know what is more of a dissapointment last night, Jeter winning that award or the Yankees winning last night, and I f…ing hate the Yankees.

by tdot mariner fan on Nov 2, 2009 8:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This award is given based on fan voting via MLB.com

something million something monkeys something something

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 2, 2009 8:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

So one million monkeys

and their keepers

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 2, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Then the MLB.com article is misrepresenting that it is strictly a fan voting thing.
The Aaron Award winners are picked from both the American and National Leagues by a vote of the fans via MLB.com, the official Web site of Major League Baseball. This year, 1.6 million people participated in the two rounds of voting.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is what wikipedia has on the Hank Aaron Award page:
In 2000, the system was changed to a ballot in which each MLB team’s radio and television play-by-play broadcasters and color analysts voted for three players in each league. Their first place vote receives five points, the second place vote receives three points, and the third place vote receives one point. Beginning in 2003, fans were given the opportunity to vote via MLB’s official website, MLB.com. Fans’ votes account for 30% of the points, while broadcasters’ and analysts’ votes account for the other 70%.2

And then for 2009, it says it was fan voting after each club selected three players.

In 2009 fans selected both the finalists and the ultimate winners of the award. In September fans voted for one finalist out of three nominees from each MLB Club. Once those 30 finalists were selected, fans voted for one American League and one National League winner, from September 16-30. 2

So it might make sense if it was exclusively fan voting in 2009 that Jeter would get more votes than the deserving Mauer just because of a larger population of east coast voters/ Yankees fans. This does not even take into account the number of people that may have voted more than once.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Nov 2, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A very odd voting process, altogether:

In the first year, the winners were decided by combining a player’s hits, home runs and RBI. Over the next three years, the winners were chosen by a vote of major league team broadcasters.

In 2003, the award was decided by broadcaster vote, and for the first time, online fan balloting, weighed in a 70-30 split.

2004-2008, fans voted from among three players nominated by the respective Club. The leading vote getter from each Club became one of 30 finalists, from which a special Major League Baseball panel chose six finalists from each League.

2009 Each club had three nominees, the fans narrow it down to 1 per club, and then voted (in September) to select the winner in each league.

by msb on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

They should change it to who can stick the barrel of the bat furthest up Bud Selig's anus.

If they’re going to give the award for stupid ambiguous reasons it may as well be hilarious.

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Nov 2, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So can we get Corco to bomb this poll next year

Willie Bloomquist, Hank Aaron Award winner, AL 2010!

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Willie would have to be nominated first

From what I can tell, a panel nominates three players from each team, and then it’s all up to the fans.

by Jeff on Nov 2, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jose Guillen!

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 2, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd love someone to poll the broadcasters and see who they would have voted

and then match it up with who the numbers say should win…

by msb on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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