Right Player, Wrong Season
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM PST
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PrintSince 2000 - covering the last ten years - there have been 428 American League starter seasons with at least 150 innings pitched. Here's how Felix's 2009 ranks among them:
ERA: #5
FIP: #17
Combined*: #8
* (2*ERA + 6*FIP)/8. A quick and dirty way of still giving starters some credit for their context pitching. This stat sucks and please never use it.
Of course, neither ERA nor FIP are adjusted for park, so Felix gets a boost, but he was still excellent, and the unfortunate coincidence that Zack Greinke was better doesn't take away from the fact that Felix still had a Cy Young-caliber season. No reason to be disappointed.
The top three AL starter seasons since 2000: Pedro Martinez 2000, Pedro Martinez 2002, and Pedro Martinez 2003. Pedro Martinez 2001 would have qualified had he thrown another 33.1 innings. Between 1999-2003 - covering five years, 135 starts, and 933 innings - Pedro ran a 2.10 ERA and 1.94 FIP. He allowed 133 runs between 1999-2001. Jose Contreras and Scott Olsen allowed 134 runs in 2007. This really happened.
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Note: I am not saying the Hall of Fame matters
Just that this would show just how little it matters.
by Mariner John on Nov 17, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I can't fathom any scenario in which Pedro doesn't waltz in on the first ballot.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Why not (3*ERA + 9*FIP)/12?
Because I was playing around with a couple different ratios in my head, I didn’t think to reduce, and hey it turns out it doesn’t make a difference. Math!
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
"This stat sucks and please never use it."
Now someone should make it their life goal to champion this new “Combined 2ERA+6FIP stat, created by Jeff of LL”, as the greatest pitching stat ever, and try to convince all future Cy Young award voters to vote based on it.
Isn't it called SABRJeff?
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Nov 17, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
So I didn't realize Pedro didn't win the Cy Young in 2002 or 2003
I can kind of understand why they put an emphasis on innings, but the Cy Young goes to the best pitcher, not the most valuable one, and Pedro was far and away the best.
Even on value, Pedro was worth waaaaay more WAR than Barry Zito in 2002.
2003, I don’t really have a problem with it. If they mattered, 2002 would’ve been a travesty.
So how many Cy Young awards have the BBWAA NOT effed up?
Since, say, Pat Hentgen.
Danny Blanchflower Lives!
It's not hard to argue that's in the best stretch of pitching ever.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
Greinke was better
But I am enitirely happy having the second best pitcher in baseball on our team (from last year, at least).
Sign him god damn it.
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