They're Getting Smarter
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2009 11:09 AM PST
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Print2009 AL Cy Young: Zack Greinke
(Felix came second with two first place votes)
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I'm really glad Felix got 2nd over the others
Even if Halladay and Verlander may have been better.
by lailaihei on Nov 17, 2009 11:12 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Am I the only one glad that Felix didn't win?
The numbers are what matter, and had he won, he would have instantly demanded $30 million more than the last contract offer.
I'm glad he didn't win because he didn't deserve to win.
Greinke did.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 17, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I am glad he didnt win for two reasons:
1) Greinke deserved it more because he pitched even better.
2) The award going to Felix might have made it harder for the Ms to sign him to a reasonable contract.
(These reasons are greater than my love for Felix making me want him to win it).
No haven't you learned anything?
Those are just newspaper fluff stories that newspapers write because there is nothing else to write. The use the “new pitch” thing to say that is why a crappy pitcher gets off to a hot start. He had that hot April and then look what happened, he went right back to his same old self.
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Also, who else besides me was idiotic enough to think the following:
“Silva is 3-0, he is good, I dont know what those people at USSM and LL are complaining about”. But I learned my lesson. And I really liked Daves post at USSM “The Spirit of Regression to the Mean inhabits the body of an overweight Venezuelan Man”.
I understand what Trenchtown is getting after. Ryan Franklin is probably the most egregious example for a recent Mariner.
Other than Silva, but I’ve kind of written him off and put him away. Anyway, in ‘02 or something, Franklin was off to a hot start and they credited it to him working with Wilson. He supposedly wasn’t shaking the catcher off anymore, just pitching. And interestingly enough, he really wasn’t shaking off the catcher anymore.
It just blew me away that Greinke didn’t have the change up already, and just put it in his arsenal that quickly.
Dude, my comment was satirical
SATIRICAL DAMMIT!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
The real test will come when when there's an unremarkable 20 game winner against a guy like Grienke
I still can’t believe Clemens didn’t win in ’05
Felix's price better have dropped by a good 20 million just now.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Nov 17, 2009 11:21 AM PST reply actions
Wow, an award in baseball actually went to the correct person!
Has this ever happened before!?
Barry Bonds.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 17, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Pujols could have one like 3 more MVP's if not for that guy :(
by vivaelpujols on Nov 17, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Aaron Miles is the last loser
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Not to mention Polanco and Longoria...
I realize these awards are meaningless to the point of absurdity, but they get enough of them right so as to not overly arouse the ire of incredulous fans. If you saw a season where the all of the gold gloves went to people in the bottom 3 at each position then even the most casual fan would take notice and start griping.
by Ike Clanton on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
They're good for XBOX360 Achievements
Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
by seattlecougar on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
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Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
by seattlecougar on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
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Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
by seattlecougar on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Steve, you started out so well!
“Posted by SteveInRavenna at 11/17/09 11:33 a.m.
No doubt, I’d be more disappointed if the writers had looked harder at that useless stats WINS. So the Royals can’t hit, can’t score runs and ergo… Greinke doesn’t rack up wins.
ERA and WHIP are all that should matter."
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Nov 17, 2009 12:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You idiot
We aren’t posting about the awards.
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 17, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Since I never write anything this doesn't count as a post
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps I could fanshot your mum instead
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
One might be compelled to point out that complaints about the off-topicness of previous comments are not themselves on-topic
But that would be an exercise in silly semantics and probably quite annoying.
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn't help but become a big fan of Greinke this year.
I think it’s pretty damn cool that he has turned into one of the best starters in baseball, considering how likely it was that he’d become just another busted prospect a few years ago. Of course he’d get a lot more recognition for his comeback if he had been snorting massive amounts of cocaine instead of having lame “debilitating clinical depression and social anxiety disorder.”
by Manzanillos Cup on Nov 17, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions
Yep, he deserved it
I can’t help but eeling like when a Mariner does something great they’re always going to be outperformed.
2001’s Cy Young still pisses me off. Fuck Roger Clemens, that roiding piece of shit. Him and his roids knocked us too many times. Even though Joe Smith or whatever the hell his name was should have won in 2001.
Carlos Silvelite
Imagine that rotation with our position players
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I know, Joe Mays, right?
Still standing however is that fact that Freddy was better than Clemens…just going by the mainstream stats.
Carlos Silvelite
I have a problem with the idea they are getting smarter
There was a pretty obvious correct decision that required little intelligence to make.
I think you misunderstand
They are still bafflingly stupid, only this time there was no automatic 20-game winner to vote for.
One right decision isn’t going to undo all the bad previous ones in my mind. I require more samples.
Did you know you can get smarter while still remaining dumb?
by Graham MacAree on Nov 17, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
He's right in some ways though.
Making the right decision doesn’t necessarily indicate that they’re getting smarter either. Just that they made a right decision. Getting Beltre for the Mariners was a good decision, but based on the history of their organization, I’m inclined to believe it was 100% dumb luck and not actually due to an intelligent thought process.
Though I think it’s obvious the BBWAA is getting at least somewhat more educated, but that’s neither here nor there. It’s perfectly reasonable to believe they also got this decision right on accident, and not because they got smarter in their decision making skills.
...and now I'm here
This gives me a small sliver of hope that they'll get a certain Hall vote right next month.
Only a small sliver though.
But hey, optimism!
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