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We Have Come A Long Way

Pretty much everybody that gives a crap about baseball understands by now that the Mariners are way different from how they used to be, but people's minds have been changed by different events. Some people were convinced by the hiring of Jack Zduriencik. They knew about him in Milwaukee, they were familiar with his philosophies, and they saw what he meant and what he'd be capable of.

Some people were convinced by the Branyan signing. A guy many have wanted to see in Seattle for years, bringing Branyan into the fold showed that the front office was willing to take a risk in the name of getting good production for cheap.

Some people were convinced by the JJ/Gutierrez trade. The structure of the deal and the public justification for making it demonstrated that this organization knew which characteristics were important, which weren't, and how it wanted to go about building a contender.

Some people were convinced by the left field situation. Not only did the front office know how to value defense; it refused to deviate from its plan of having a strong defensive outfield, even when its original starter got hurt.

Some people were convinced by the team's 2009 record. Any team that gets that much better in that little time has to have done something right.

And so on. Ever since Jack Zduriencik and the rest of his new front office were brought in and put in power, there has been a series of revealing events, each persuading more and more people that, after years of prodigal lunacy, the Mariners organization finally had it figured out. And this afternoon we were able to add the latest landmark moment to the list when the following was written in the same place where just a couple years ago authors lamented the lacking of playing time for one Willie Bloomquist:

Wilson earned the Fielding Bible Award as the best fielding shortstop in the Majors in 2009, leading all Major League shortstops with 27 runs saved. In 1,143 starts at shortstop, he has recorded a .977 fielding percentage. He's a career .268 hitter.

The Fielding Bible Awards and defensive runs saved, on Pravda, used as evidence. I don't know if this was the author's idea or a suggestion from someone a little higher, but what difference does it make? Remember when the broadcast would talk about RZR and UZR? Forget whose decision it was. What matters is that not only does this front office intend to use its superior valuation skills to make this team good again - they're going to make damn sure as many fans as possible know how they're doing it.

A significant group of people were skeptical of the Zduriencik Mariners back when the hiring was made public.

Something tells me the remaining members of that group are getting sick of goodbyes.

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I know when I was convinced.

Four words: “Department of Baseball Research”.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Nov 14, 2009 1:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

2/$10 plus modest incentive bonuses?

Color me a happy panda

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on Nov 14, 2009 2:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

He is a pretty fantastic GM

Not that I agree with every move he’s made…..but he has rather expertly managed the team so far, and seems to know how to turn people to his line of thinking. Though winning sure helps that.

Even if his reign had not been preceded by the complete and unadulterated ignorance of the Bavasi regime, I think we would still be calling his logic sound. Because it is.

by OlSalty on Nov 14, 2009 2:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ah

it looks like Jesse Sanchez culled his Fielding Bible, etc paragraph from the original press release

by msb on Nov 14, 2009 9:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not just a long way but a long way in a short amount of time

I continue to be amazed at the quick turnaround by this organization who’s future seemed absolutely bleak just over a year a go.

by ThundaPC on Nov 14, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's beautiful

No more nightmares like Carl Everett or Jose Vidro! Z is my hero.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Nov 14, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

brilliant pr as well

following up with this signing on the heels of the mostly pointless Griffey deal

by royalsreview on Nov 14, 2009 12:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How people have responded to the Griffey deal says a lot about how those people see the Mariners now

There are a few remaining holdouts, but tons more people are giving them the benefit of the doubt.

by Jeff on Nov 14, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man...

Z’s been great. Now imagine what the M’s outfield defense could look like with Adam Jones still here. If only Z took over a couple years earlier. It pains me just thinking about it. I mean, when you get screwed by a guy named McPHAIL, then you know…But I digress. Love the new direction, just wishing we could have done that a little earlier.

All right kids, now anytime Lincecum strikes out the side, go remind your mother who he is again.

by perfectstrat on Nov 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

we still could have made the Putz trade

All right kids, now anytime Lincecum strikes out the side, go remind your mother who he is again.

by perfectstrat on Nov 14, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But would we have?

We would have had Jones already in center, so there’s a chance the deal doesn’t go down.

by killer_ewok18 on Nov 14, 2009 3:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Could. Sure.

Would. Doubt it.

by Wilder. on Nov 14, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Guti is better than Adam Jones.

AJ is younger and has more potential offensively, but it’s not stupid to think the team is better off without him. If we didn’t acquire someone who was as good as AJ, then you would be a valid argument.

People should be more upset with the loss of Tillman.

by Wilder. on Nov 14, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jones also has more years.

And we could have gotten value out of JJ from another player.
Making an argument that giving away a player with some $30 million + in value is a positive doesn’t make sense.

by lailaihei on Nov 14, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody is making that exact argument.

Some people are saying that not doing the Adam Jones trade would have altered the course of events so as to mean that we might be worse off now.

The correct answer is that nobody, obviously, can know.

by Matthew on Nov 14, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

A logical conclusion to my previously stated hypothetical.

Avatars make the site look pretty. I still don't have one.

by perfectstrat on Nov 14, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say the team would be better off. Just a better outfield defense, as Gutierrez is probably a better fielder than Jones.

Z said after the Putz trade that his goal in the deal was to get a center fielder. He had previously targeted that fast-as-all-hell kid on the Rays, from what I recall. If Adam Jones is around, I assume he targets a different kind of player to fill a different gap. It’s all speculation, of course, but I figure it’s a safe bet that we wouldn’t have a team with both Jones and Gutierrez.

by Teej on Nov 16, 2009 8:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs


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