2009 SBN AL Cy Young Voting Results
by Jeff Sullivan on Nov 11, 2009 3:16 PM PST
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PrintDamn you, Griffey, for making the audience wait to see this table of critically important information.
| Rk | Player | Team | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Zack Greinke | Kansas City Royals | 28 | 1 | - | 143 |
| 2 | Felix Hernandez | Seattle Mariners | - | 17 | 6 | 57 |
| 3 | Justin Verlander | Detroit Tigers | - | 8 | 9 | 33 |
| 4 | Roy Halladay | Toronto Blue Jays | 1 | 2 | 11 | 22 |
| 5 | C.C. Sabathia | New York Yankees | - | 1 | 2 | 5 |
| 6 | Jon Lester | Boston Red Sox | - | - | 1 | 1 |
Looks about right. The top six arms in ERA, and the top six arms in FIP. I'm not certain that Felix deserved second over Verlander and Halladay, each of whom threw just as many innings with comparable results, but it's not second place that matters here. A real shame that Greinke's contract expires before Dayton Moore's does. A real shame.
Over 915 plate appearances, Greinke held opponents to a .269 wOBA. Zack Greinke vs. the Major Leagues was like an average pitcher vs. Robb Quinlan.
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Can whoever voted for Lester be stripped of their blogging privileges?
Please??? I feel like this is all the evidence you’d need.
Lester's tRA* was better than Verlander, Halladay and Sabathia's
by stupidquestions on Nov 11, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
I have no idea why you would use tRA* as a measure of value
by vivaelpujols on Nov 11, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Just saying it might have been a basis for whoever voted him third
obviously he falls short in IP and WAR.
by stupidquestions on Nov 11, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
And I should emphasize you're right that tRA* isn't a value measure
but it is a raw performance measure, and maybe someone decided to weight their vote toward that for whatever reason. Plus, what Matthew said.
by stupidquestions on Nov 11, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
No, tRA is the raw performance metric
I don’t have a problem with that. tRA* is tRA regressed to league average. I’m not sure if it’s done by components or not, and that may make a difference for stuff like HR/FB, but I don’t see why you should regress performance when talking about awards.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 11, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Points taken.
The regression is done by components (such as HR/FB), but I can definitely see your point about raw vs. regressed performance in award voting and I would agree with it.
by stupidquestions on Nov 11, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
I suppose I look at it this way...
If I had to bank on one pitcher to win one game this season, no way I consider Lester.
Mr. Greinke deserved it. I'm happy for him.
Felix will have a couple of these in his back pocket before his career is over.
CC got rid of the periods, silly.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 11, 2009 5:29 PM PST reply actions
It doesn't seem like it should be up to Mr. Sabathia.
As long as C.C. is short for something else, it needs periods.
But he goes by "CC", which is his nickname, not his initials.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 11, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it's a nickname of his initials.
If he wants to throw some vowels in there and make it a word, I’d allow it. Otherwise, he’s stuck with the periods.
He legally changed his name to CC.
It isn’t a nickname or initials. It’s his legal name.
What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?
If that's the case, he's got my seal of approval.
As far as I know, from doing a quick news search, that isn’t the case.
I think I’ve wasted more than enough energy on this. Sorry, everyone.
Hmmm.
From here on out, Carsten Charles Sabathia is just “CC” Sabathia — not “C.C.”
After holding a news conference Monday to announce they’d made a trade to acquire the reigning AL Cy Young award winner from Cleveland, a member of the Brewers public relations staff advised media members that Sabathia prefers to have his initials written without periods. “Oh, really?” Brewers general manager Doug Melvin said. It was not immediately known why Sabathia wanted it that way.
<a href=“http:// ”http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Answer-Man-CC-Sabathia-talks-imaginary-friends-?urn=mlb" target="_blank">http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Answer-Man-CC-Sabathia-talks-imaginary-friends-?urn=mlb,97668" target="new">or
Q: When you came over from Cleveland, it gave you an opportunity to clear up the matter of your dots, your periods, in “CC,” …. and you have this exasperated look on your face right now.
CC: I had no clue what was going on with that. I never said that I never liked dots. They asked me when I wrote my name, how do I spell it, and I said I spell it “Carsten.” I never write “CC”. I don’t really care about the dots anyway. It’s just something that kind of got made-up when I came here. I never stated anything about the dots in my name. J.J., you like the dots in your name?
(Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome from a couple of lockers over, Brewers shortstop J.J. Hardy)
J.J. Hardy: It doesn’t make a difference. You know, I have ‘em, but it doesn’t make a difference.
CC: See? Doesn’t make a difference.
I knew this guy in the army, his name was JO Riggins.
When he filled out the paperwork to join up, he was afraid they’d get it wrong, so he spelled it out very carefully for the recruiters. J(only) B(only) Riggins. He spent the rest of his military career as Jonly Bonly Riggins.
Based on that comment, I'm going to trust that you have a pretty good idea what a male hooker is.
Now I know who to ask. I can’t tell you how many awkward conversations I could have avoided if I’d known this sooner.
I stole that story from a comedy bit
It just works better in the first person, abender’s hooker proclivities are… his thing.
I'll never forget the first time I found myself saying "I honestly thought that was a woman".
That was a red letter day, for sure
I was going to make a Harry S. Truman joke
But in his case, it actually didn’t stand for anything.
by appleshampoo on Nov 11, 2009 8:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Same with Ulysses S. Grant.
But in that case that wasn’t even his name. He was Hiram Ulysses Grant. Where the S came from I have no idea.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Those top 4 were all tremendous.
Good year for pitching.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
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