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OFFTOP - Help Me Pick A Hockey Team!

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I know the other OFFTOP is fairly recent, but I need some help here.  And, besides, the other is at 1420 comments as I type this, so let's bring on the freshness.

With the end of the baseball season nigh, I've decided to try my hand at hockey fandom.  Seeing as how there is a lack of a National Hockey League team in Seattle, or even Washington for that matter, I need to throw my hat in with a team from elsewhere.  I'd like to cheer for a franchise that is well-run, but they don't necessarily have to be a winner right now.  Try to think of a team that you could compare to the 2009 Mariners; good to great front office, promising young talent, and on the upswing from horrible.  Basically, I don't just want to pull for a team just 'cuz they're a winner.  And I don't want to end up rooting for the New York Yankees of the NHL, if there is such a team.

Star-divide

And, not so off-topic, but I'm curious to see who you all will be rooting for come MLB playoff time.  I'm all about the St. Louis Cardinals in the NL, and whatever team comes out of the Central Division in the AL.

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The Canucks

That way when they are playing bad you can call them the Canuckleheads. That is the extent of my hockey knowledge right there.

by ColeFitz88 on Oct 3, 2009 8:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I root for the Sharks only because I'm a homer.

I’ll be going for the Rockies and the AL central winner because they’re the only teams I don’t dislike…

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 3, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Red Wings! ;)

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Oct 3, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear YES!!!

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 7, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the Sounders won.

That was somewhat unexpected.

by BrianL on Oct 3, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Penguins

I have a mancrush on Sidney Crosby…

Fuck the Angels and Yankees and Red Sox

by Ef the yankees on Oct 3, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They do have those jerseys

With the cute little penguins on them…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 7, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In hockey, I'm leaning to Washington.

I saw Ovechkin get a 1-on-1 goal today in the first three minutes of their game vs. Toronto. He’s a guy you can get behind, if you’re into chasing after players.

I’m agree with JMKaustin for the MLB playoffs. I’d love to have the AL Central winner go to the series. National League, I like the Rocks and the Cardinals.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 3, 2009 11:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're looking for a team on the upswing* with lots of youth and little success in recent years,

I’d take a look at Columbus, St Louis, Florida, or maybe Los Angeles.

*Degree of potential upswing may vary.

by ningwers on Oct 3, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Listen to this guy

Also Washington is a whole hell of a lot of fun.

by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington Capitals

Most exciting player in the league and they are going to dominate this year.

by Wilder. on Oct 4, 2009 12:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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Basically, I don’t just want to pull for a team just ‘cuz they’re a winner. And I don’t want to end up rooting for the New York Yankees of the NHL, if there is such a team.

by acblue on Oct 4, 2009 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think every team should have at least one good pro sports team.

The Pistons aren’t all that great and the Lions are horrible, so I would say that Detroit deserves the Red Wings.

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Oct 4, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every city...

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Oct 4, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get at the Blackhawk bandwagon while you still can

I’m a Sabres fan, and that team is pretty much what the highest possible upside is for us to morph into.

They’re going to be absurdly good, but they’re still very young and are just starting their stretch of dominance.

by cwel87 on Oct 4, 2009 6:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They also will have a hell of a job keeping all of that young talent on the books and under the cap after this season.

Washington would definitely be a good choice. I’ve always liked Calgary for some reason and signing Jay Bouwmeester’s just added to that. Pick any team from the Central (besides Nashville) and you’ve done well.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth on Oct 4, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been to the last two Colorado Avs games, and I'm becoming a fan

Talk about a solid young core with 18-year old Duchene, who is already damn good, not to mention O’Reilly, plus a solid Foote/Hejduk/Quincy core and Craig Anderson might be the best bargain goalie signing ever- it’s a team on the rise and should be fun to follow

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 4, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's always been my favorite team

I’ve drifted away from hockey a bit over the last few years, but I’m ready to get back on board with them

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 4, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a hockey "newbie", for lack of a better term.

I find it much easier to follow baseball. I’m not sure if it’s the crazy European names, but I’ve always found hockey hard to follow. That and I’m not sure what channel to check to watch hockey. Versus is not on DirecTV anymore.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 4, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could check for that.

Thanks for the heads up.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 4, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not, and I don't.

North central Washington with DirecTV. I can’t seem to find the CBC. I guess I’ll just hope that DirecTV and Comcast come to terms on Versus and roll with the NHL Network until then.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 5, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The last hockey game I went to was the Sabercats. I'm not sure I am a good resource.

By the way— is this just a stray hockey OT, or does it count as the replacement weekly OT? Because the beer OT has gotten too large and unwieldy.

by msb on Oct 4, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking weekly OT.

That beer OT is a real beast.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 4, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today's Wagon train rerun has Leslie Neilson as the troubled protaganist.

Maybe it is because I grew up with Neilson, ubiquitous in his bad guy of the week persona of the 70s tv, but even after two-plus decades of abundant sillyness, I never have any trouble with him in a dramatic role.

by msb on Oct 4, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Leslie Nielson's son Buddy used to be my hero.

Then he stopped making good music.

by Kirkharbaugh on Oct 4, 2009 7:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

All of them are Nielsens— in the note I forgot to add Tom, father of Buddy, but apparently not one of the Canadian Nielsen clan. Drug up from the vast swamp of minutiae which is my brain, I somehow think Leslie just had daughters.

by msb on Oct 5, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was mistaken.

You are right. I can’t seem to find who his parents are for the life of me. I know his mom was a soap star and directs all of SF’s videos though.

by Kirkharbaugh on Oct 5, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Found it.

Lisa Brown and Tom Nielson.

by Kirkharbaugh on Oct 5, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go with the Sharks

Since you’re a Seattle sports fan they’re perfect. Constant disappointment.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Oct 4, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So true.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 4, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

CANUCKS

Andrew Raycroft for backup? Does not compute.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 4, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heartily seconded.

There ain't no turning back when our train is off its track, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash (watch it crash)
And there ain't no right and wrong when we know it won't be long, and there's nothing we can do but watch it crash
-Tomas Kalnoky/Streetlight Manifesto, Watch It Crash

by kentcheesehead on Oct 4, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kings

1.) Good to great front office.
2.) Promising young talent: Anze Kopitar, Drew Doughty, Dustin Brown, Wayne Simmonds, Jon Quick…they’re the 4th youngest team in the NHL, I think.
3.) On the upswing from terrible: Haven’t made the playoffs since ‘01-’02, but might this year, and will next year. Haven’t ever won a Cup despite being home to Wayne Gretzky for many years.

Additional pluses: They wear purple, they’re direct rivals with the Anaheim Ducks (note the Anaheim, and that they beat Jeff’s Sens for their Cup), they own LA’s only real fans, and nobody can ever, ever accuse you of being a bandwagon Kings fan. Because there are no bandwagon Kings fans.

http://inplaynoouts.blogspot.com/ - A blog about teams I like, written by me.
#34

by Carl Johnson on Oct 4, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One can dream, right?

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 5, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someday a whole lot of people might share a thought.

“The warning signs were there, if only I’d done something to stop it.”

by Kermit. on Oct 5, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.

"The warning signs were there, if only I’d done something to stop it thought to bring a camcorder."

by Graham on Oct 5, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I put forward another vote for my Caps.

They may be alittle to far into the successful upswing for you to feel comfortable jumping on board, but they are just a fun fun team to watch. High tempo running and gunning with all the awesomeness (breakaways) and failures (stupid penalties in their own end) that you’d expect from that style. Their SBN site – JapersRink is also fantastic. They’re loaded with young stars starting with Ovie, Semin, Backstrom, Green (my fav), and hopefully starting this year, Varlamov in net. The pipline looks to keep coming too with Hershey winning the Calder last year and a handful of young defensemen set to come up when the team can cleat cap room (cough Nylander). And then there is Ovie. You don’t have to be a Caps fan but I’d suggest watching him any chance you get. He’s a pitbull out there. Just so strong, fast, talanted and at times wreckless with endless energy and charisma. As he says, “The Russian machine does not break.” And finally, do it for the spiffy red home sweaters. Those things are sharp. So much better than the ugly late-90s blues.

by DCMariner on Oct 5, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm leaning heavily towards the Senators, especially after checking out their SBN blog.

I actually don’t mind being a bit of a bandwagon jumper since the M’s have been so painfully bad recently. It’s high time I start rooting for a winner. Hopefully you Senator fans don’t mind.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 5, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just realized what a complete idiot I am (I'm about to make myself look really foolish, something I probably shouldn't do here, but oh well.)

This whole time I’ve been saying Senators but meaning the Capitals. Even after reading DCMariner’s above post, I still said Senators instead of Capitals.

Anyway, there’s a Senators/Rangers game coming up on NHLN, so I’m excited to be able to watch my first game. Hopefully Ovechkin puts on a show.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 6, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, sweet Jesus!

Would you buy it if I said yes?

I think I’m hung up on the Washington Senators of old, though they were a baseball team. One of these days I’ll call them by their correct name. Or perhaps I should just quit while I’m only a little behind.

Washington Capitals, Washington Capitals, Washington Capitals.

How many times do you have to do something before it becomes habit?

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 6, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah, this whole sequence has me laughing.

Yeah game tonight. I’ll be watching from work. If the first 3 games are any indication I think Ovie won’t disappoint you any. I’m looking for Green to step it up though. On the PP the Caps like to run an overload with Green pinching in on the backside with an open look at the net. Semin to Green. I need that tonight for my hockey season to be officially started.

by DCMariner on Oct 8, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm past the mental block now.

You lose me a little with all the jargon, but I’ll learn eventually. Is there anyway I can contact you with some questions, email or otherwise?

Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 8, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure thing.

I always fail like my hockey knowledge falls miserably short of my baseball knowledge but I have been a fan of the game all my life. My email is mhileman@gwu.edu if you want to get in touch. Japers Rink listed in my initial post is probably the best way to really get the ins and outs of the Caps specifically. Over the course of a month you will start to see reoccuring themes in the posts which tend to point out both the good and the bad of the team. The blog also is great at listing links with interesting reads to get general hockey knowledge up. I went hunting alittle while back for any sabremetric style hockey insider knowledge, and while there are a few sites exploring this side of things, there doesnt appear to be any big knowledgable community like LL in the hockey world. Maybe I’m wrong and didn’t dig deep enough.

by DCMariner on Oct 9, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen the sbn hockey stat blog?

Behind the net?

I haven’t really checked it out, just wondering what other, more knowledgeable, fans think.
There may not be a huge stat community yet, but tons of work on this is going on. Remember that Tango had a job with an NHL team before he had one with an MLB team.

by marc w on Oct 9, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Help! I need somebody.

So, I’m running Office 2007 on Windows XP, and sometimes I have trouble with the Excel program. First off, my center mouse wheel will periodically stop working (even though it works in other programs, such as Firefox, AutoCAD, and Outlook). But more frustrating is that I’ll pick on a cell with my left mouse button, and it’ll select a whole lot more than the cell I’m trying to highlight. Any ideas? The cell I was trying to highlight is in row 65, the one that says “Lighting Type”…yet it selected three entire rows.

Click to enlarge.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 5, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Try changing the zoom level in the bottom left corner.

That’s happened occasionally at my work, and that seems to fix it for a short time.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 6, 2009 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun with the USSM mod queue:
you and lookout landing have banned me, oh no. now i have to use one of dozens of aliases of which i was already using one. and why, because i dared question your opinions. way to censor free speach

dave you and your ilk and all your LL homo friends are nothing more than troglodytes

He’s not even banned from LL!

by Graham on Oct 5, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lesson to be learned here:

never stop taking mescaline lest you actually come down.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 5, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 6, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can barely breathe.

That was excellent.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 6, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It reminds me of that Baz Luhrmann song from a decade ago.

The one about wearing sunscreen and all that.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 6, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love it.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 6, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...how 'bout Brett Favre?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 6, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I WISH HE'D MAKE A GODDAMNED DECISION ALREADY JUST RETIRE OR DON'T I DON'T CARE

unless that’s not what you’re talking about then uh whatever

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 6, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both Brett Favre and the making fun of said Brett Favre need to be put on the worldwide dead meme list.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 6, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will, however

give Favre credit for this.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 6, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a pretty funny display of humility.

And I love that they were airing it during last night’s game. I adore Favre. But I’m way past the point of saturation.

by Teej on Oct 6, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meanwhile
Your blog, www.halosheaven.com, is worth $47,985.90

by BrianL on Oct 6, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and
Your blog, pedrocalderon.wordpress.com/, is worth $0.00

Here’s a button you can put on your blog: (the HTML is below)

by seattlebruin on Oct 6, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

How Much Is Your Blog Worth?

Your blog, www.fieldgulls.com, is worth $23,710.68

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say!

Exclusive chat with Jack Zduriencik

The Mariners just completed a memorable 2009 season in which they finished 85-77, a 24-game improvement from the year before.

The key architect for the turnaround was first-year general manager Jack Zduriencik and he’ll take your questions at 12 p.m. Wednesday on seattletimes.com.

by msb on Oct 6, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Post this in the frontpage article!

good baseball talk can/should be posted where more people will see it =)

by seattlebruin on Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a coworker who is pretty damn intelligent when it comes to sports

He realizes that Raul’s value with the bat was decimated in the field, how to correctly value risk/reward propositions, that you have to take small sample size into consideration when making any decisions all without reading LL/USSM/FBO. He also wants the Hawks to get the top overall pick so we can pick up Tebow. I am bewildered by this.

by Robert on Oct 6, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be surprised if that works the way it's supposed to work.

Sorry to play devil’s advocate. Still, I woulda killed for something like that when I was younger.

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 6, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reason no. 112 that I love Nathan Fillion?

He is such a nerd.

“NathanFillion: Jonathan Frakes is directing. Yesterday, he called me Number One. My heart made a noise that sounded like awesome.”

by msb on Oct 6, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it.

And Jonathan Frakes sounds like one of the all-time cool dudes as well. I’d love to have dinner with both of those guys.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 7, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just part of the game.

If you’re on second and can see the signs, you’re expected to tell the batter what’s coming.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 7, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I love baseball.

So many intricacies to the game. The battle of hitter vs. pitcher has so many levels.

Say it with me: Washington . Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 7, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, as long as cameras aren't involved, I'm all for it.

I thought Mauer was hilariously over the top, though. What ever happened to a toe tap or a hand on the thigh? Going to the helmet seems pretty conspicuous.

“Ca-caw! I’ve got the wallet! Ca-caw!”

by Teej on Oct 7, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

If I had a kid, and my kid stole planes, I'd be impressed too.

Less happy with having to possibly pay for the kid’s mistakes, but impressed.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 7, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is the ???

Worst? Best? Sexiest?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

XBLA'est

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 7, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Shit I suck

*Best XBLA game.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

Castle Crashers was pretty fun, if a little short.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 7, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still play Castle Crashers all the time with my 5 year old

I’m just pissed that all of my data was erased after getting my main guy up to near-fully maxed stats.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 7, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in the process of doing that with the Poison Knight.

He was my first attempt to max one stat, and holy crap is that the best Melee guy once you get his Magic up all the way, then give him a magic boosting weapon.

I haven’t played my XBox for a month now ): that sucks. I can’t wait until I’m out of house-fixing money, then I get to have some free time.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 7, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To make that last part slightly less OT, you can do Live co-op games, right?

I never looked.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dear SBN:

Fix whatever the fuck is going on right now. Thanks!

by Graham on Oct 7, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to mark comments as read five times.

Duh.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 7, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although i do find it comical

that reloading the page marks my own comments as read and not any of the other 10 that are unread since last refresh.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 7, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll find that donating at least $10 to SBN fixes all these types of problems.

Also, donating $15 to Statcorner gives you access to the daily hidden thread, where all the really great convo’s are taking place. Some real hijinks in the daily hidden thread. $25 gets you access to the daily hidden front page content. Just an FYI.

by Kermit. on Oct 7, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I see what you're talking about.

Logging back in, everything is unmarked. Or this is deja vu.

by Kermit. on Oct 7, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can someone point me in the direction?

I’m working on a hare-brained analysis and wanted the precise replacement values for 2009. I know from a recent post on USSM that the expected wins of a replacement level team would be ~43, but I was hoping for a more specific number. Also, if I recall correctly, replacement level changes every year and I was hoping I could find historic values for at least the last 2 or 3 years.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 7, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know, I know...

how precise does it really need to be if it is just hare-brained?…

by Ike Clanton on Oct 7, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was curious a couple months ago

and calculated it out on Excel. From 2002-2008 the average was about 46.2. In the comments of Dave Cameron’s latest fangraph’s post (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/war-it-works) he said it was 46.17 in 2009. “It’s always in that .280 to .300 win% range,” he said.

by ChristopherA on Oct 7, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I got it.

Replacement Level win record would be something like:

[(Total Wins of MLB) – (Total WAR of MLB)]/30…

Hmmmm… I’m clearly missing something… Dave’s WAR total of 1045 is higher than the total of all the team WARs… either I’m not thinking clearly because it is 8 a.m. or I’m just plain missing something about WAR… sadly, it’s probably the latter.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 8, 2009 6:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got 1043.7 WAR this season

so I assume Dave was just rounding. Did you remember to add the position player’s WAR and the pitcher’s WAR (because if you grabbed your data off fangraphs there’s no column for total team WAR)?

by ChristopherA on Oct 8, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duh...

I still only have a total of 924.4 though…

I think it was less a lack of understanding of WAR so much as not being intimately familiar with the organization of Fangraphs… and I’m obviously still missing something.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 8, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind...

I was missing a huge block of data…

Excel added the totals up to 1037.9

I wonder what I’m missing now…

by Ike Clanton on Oct 8, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still can't figure out where the total of 1043.7 came from...

Every time I add up the total of all WAR for all position players and pitchers I get 1037.9.

I think my plan has hit a major hitch in my willingness to spend the time necessary to make these numbers add up correctly. I guess I’m not cut out for even the basest of analyses.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 9, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got it now...

I have no idea how I didn’t get it the last 19 times I added it up…

Good thing my boss is out sick today…

by Ike Clanton on Oct 9, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All of that for nothing...

Oh well…

I thought I might be able to find a higher correlation by combining WAR Expected Record and Pythagorean Expected Record. There seemed to be a pattern through 2008 and 2009 that was consistent, but when I ran the same info for 2007 there was no combination of WAR and Pythag that had a higher correlation than Pythag alone.

At least that was something interesting to do with the first 3/4 of my work day…

by Ike Clanton on Oct 9, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Bobby Hebert a trending topic on Youtube?

Oh, and has anybody heard the new Built to Spill album and care to offer an appraisal?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 7, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a huge Built to Spill fan

but a song from it was on one of my song-of-the-day podcasts (Minneapolis Public Radio I think) and it’s not too bad.

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll get back to you on the Built to Spill.

Thank you, Zune Pass…

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by JY on Oct 8, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slapdash review

The album isn’t a complete concept, but instead plays like two halfves of an idea that aren’t fully reconciled with each other. The first plays like a slower “Keep It Like a Secret”, but lacking the exuberance of the same and being washed over with a dreamy quality and a few static interludes for popular flavour. The guitar work, while professional, is uninspired, and the whole affair doesn’t really get going until the fourth track or so, with “Gool Ol’ Boredom” followed by “Life’s a Dream”, which encapsulate the ethos to that point. As they aren’t noted wordsmiths, the lower tempo songs feel like “chill out” fare, listenable, but not necessarily memorable.

After that, the album breaks into an entirely different mode. “Oh Yeah” somewhat clumsily pushes away from the half-asleep state and lays the groundwork for the driving “Pat”, easily the most passionate song on the album, a two-and-a-half minute guitar piece dedicated to the bassist of Martsch’s old band, Treepeople. The songs that follow are more lively, though not necessarily groundbreaking. “Done” plays like a leftover from “You in Reverse”, but the final three songs finish on a strong and satisfying note, though no one of them comes to define a new sense of sound distinct for this album. There is no twelve minute epic, such as “Untrustable” or “Goin’ Against Your Mind”, which is a bit of a disappointment. I’d call it a more mellow, transitional album, but the two halves of it caught me off guard and it’s difficult to tell what direction they’re pushing in. It’s not one of their better albums, there was no track that made me jump out of my seat to hit the back button, but it’s not bad either. I’d probably put it as third or more likely fourth out of what I’ve heard by them.

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by JY on Oct 8, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the review.

I’ll be patient through the first half of the album to get to the sweet nectar.

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by Phildopip on Oct 8, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So how 'bout them Idaho Vandals!

Making Moscow proud. Anyone? Anyone?

by Manzanillos Cup on Oct 7, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Idaho's still a state?

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, it's just an extension of Utah now.

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by Phildopip on Oct 8, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 8, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can sue for anything these days.

Girl’s Mom Sues For HR Ball

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by JLProck on Oct 7, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Earl Weaver is awesome.

This is how you throw a tirade. And keep throwing it. And throwing it. And throwing it.

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love how the ump adds sound when he tosses Earl.

“Ah, BOOM!”

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by Phildopip on Oct 8, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I laughed a lot at Earl insisting he was touched

YOU TOUCHED ME! I’LL BE IN THE HALL OF FAME! YOU TOUCHED ME!

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you have never read any of Ron Luciano's book you really should.

He told some great stories about his run ins with Weaver.

by Sec 108 on Oct 8, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have indeed read that book

but it’s been years, I should probably pick it up again one of these days.

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta agree with Phildopip

I’ve listen to the new Pearl Jam album about 3 times now and its just not that good. Its like Eddie Vedder took anti depressants and wrote all these songs.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 8, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Its a medicore record. There's aren't any bad songs on it, but The Fixer is the best one and its a complete throwaway.

Also, I don’t really see how this is a “happy” record. The End (which is disappoints as much any song on the record) might be the most depressing song in their catalouge, and even the most peppy songs (The Fixer, Just Breathe) very much have death and dying as their central theme.

by Poochie on Oct 8, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canonical Album Of The Day

A new semi-whenever-I-can-be-bothered-or-happen-to-be-listening-to-one-and-want-to-talk-about-it educational feature about some of rock’s seminal albums for you crazy kids out there that may not be as familiar with some of these records as you should be. Today’s pick:

Stand! – Sly And The Family Stone

I haven’t owned a copy of this record in probably 15 years, but I picked one up last night and listened to it again, and immediately got mad at myself for not owning it all this time. You know Everyday People, probably, and you know a lot of the riffs/beats on this record because it’s been sampled quite a bit, but if you’ve never heard this all the way through, get it now and listen to it.

Sly Stone was (and is) a genius, a visionary, a bastard, and a crazy person all at once. That’s a combination that almost without fail produces great music, and this record is no exception. With the exception of “Sex Machine”, which is good in its own way (much like the kid who tries really hard at recess but can’t ever get across the playground without tripping three times), every song on this record is tight, funky, hopeful, optimistic, and really damn entertaining.

Oh yeah and it’s also political, socially critical, and while you’re dancing to it you’re getting educated but you’ll never know it. I can’t really put into words how awesome this record is, but if the song “Stand” doesn’t make you get up off your butt and move somethin’, you’re just kinda dead inside.

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 10:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You could give them AN email address

doesn’t have to be yours. or valid.

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by pdb on Oct 8, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...I can give them your email address?

I kid, I kid.

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by Phildopip on Oct 8, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant the way they're marketing the film in general.

They are going to end up opening the film in exactly the same way that movies like this always open, and it will go to wider release in exactly the same way movies like this always go into wider release. But by doing what they are doing they are insuring that the movie will have a cult appeal and a ton of buzz that it might not have otherwise had.

by acblue on Oct 8, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 8, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After watching the preview on Apple last week, had an opinion in the same vein

Not as well thought out, but pointing in that direction. They split screened it, with a camera on the audience presumably reacting to the movie clip on the other half. Never seen that before.

by Kermit. on Oct 8, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Divish:

“For those of you who missed last Sunday’s season ending game that ended with more hugs than a divorced wives club meeting and Junior and Ichiro being carried off the field, you can watch it again, or set your DVR’s and Tivo’s to to record it. Fox Sports Northwest will re-air the game on Saturday, Oct. 10 at 1 p.m. as part an “instant classic.” Besides the game, FSN will provide additional coverage of the postgame celebrations on the field and in the clubhouse, some of which didn’t quite make the first broadcast."

by msb on Oct 9, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

I missed the end because I had to get some sleep for work. Thank you, FSN.

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by JLProck on Oct 9, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conundrum!

I received a dozen cupcakes this morning. I ate one. It was delicious. Should I keep eating more of them? Also, to avoid LLLJ, has anybody ever been given a whole cake or many cupcakes and just kept it for themselves?

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 9, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You should have one more after lunch

and then give the rest to the other people in your office. Unless you don’t like them and then keep them for yourself.

I purposely don’t keep a lot of sweets around because if I did I most certainly would eat them all and then I’d look like Ben Stiller at the end of Dodgeball.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it is at work, I go for the 'keep a couple, share the rest" move

better for your health, and spreads the love. Of course, if there are more people than cupcakes, you may have to put out a knife with them …

by msb on Oct 9, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And watch the first 3 people grab two cupcakes each.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or do what I do when I make a batch of cola.

Give it to your friends and no one else.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I usually do,

Problem is, there are only 4 total people here, including myself. One already turned down the cupcake offer, the other said she might want one later but probably won’t, and the other guy is diabetic. So, I’m going to end up eating the remaining ones and make myself into a diabetic

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 9, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give them to random strangers.

Don’t forget to have a BIIIIG smile when you do, so they know they’re good.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm claiming this as my joke.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deal.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Like anyone would ever visit Jersey)

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've done it before

it’s not out of the realm of possibility.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Voluntarily?

I hope you took a shower after.

That said, you ever show up, let me know and I’ll make good on at least a portion of the deal.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Several times actually

I used to go to a fair number of shows at Maxwell’s. That’s gotta count for something.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoboken? (I think I'm thinking of the right spot)

That’s a nice place. Went there for a friend’s band every once in a while. Good burgers too.

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by Faux on Oct 9, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, Hoboken.

Probably one of my favorite clubs on the East Coast. Wouldn’t go so far as to say Hoboken is one of my favorite cities but I didn’t think it was that horrible.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine then

Free cupcakes today at my place of work. I’d extend the offer through tomorrow, but I will likely be hungover and unwilling to acknowledge anybody’s existence

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 9, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why the offer does not apply to tomorrow

If I have any left over then I’ll be enjoying a cupcake breakfast at 2 in the afternoon

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 9, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So anybody in Portland who likes beer

should go to the Green Dragon. it’s a great beer bar anyway, but they’re finally starting to brew their own beer – and one of the brewers is a friend of mine. He’s brewing an American Dark-Strong Ale and an Irish Red Ale. This is exciting. Green Dragon’s IPA is tapping October 15 (it’s called Finally! because they’ve been open for three years now and never made their own), and the rest of their brews, including my friend’s, will be tapping in the two or three weeks after the 15th.

The IPA is very limited – two quarter-barrels (140 glasses), but if the IPA is as good as the other beers I’ve had from my friend and his brewing cohorts it will be awesome.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

None, actually.

I just assumed it was storage of some sort.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody here a fan of Mojo Nixon?

I’m not, particularly, except for Elvis is Everywhere – but I did just find out that he is giving away more or less his entire catalog for free on Amazon.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I used to be

Waaay back in my indie days. Now, it just doesn’t appeal to me. I once saw him open for Reverend Horton Heat. Holy crap that was a good show.

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by section331 on Oct 12, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone here in NYC?

I’m going to be out there in a few weeks and I’m trying to figure out how to get to Cooperstown quickly and reasonably. The girl I’m staying with (who is becoming a baseball fan) doesn’t seem to think we could get there and back within a day very well.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a 4 hr drive from NYC to Cooperstown with no traffic so you really don't want to do it in a day

that would give you almost no time at the museum. And it deserves a lot of time.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little miffed because my host made it seem that it'd be easy to get over there

and that was one of the reasons that I was so excited for the trip. Maybe I’ll just try to slip away for a day and then come back.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 9, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you have any desire to see the HoF I would honestly recommend against it

if you only have one day to devote to a trip to Cooperstown, including travel time, you won’t enjoy the experience or get much out of the museum. The Hall is like a baseball game – it needs to be enjoyed over a long period of time and can’t/shouldn’t be rushed through. If you are able to take off the night before, though, that changes things – get to Cooperstown the night before, spend the entire next day there, and head back to the city when you’re done.

If you’re able to rent a car this is infinitely easier; on the bus it’s a bit tricky. All buses from NYC leave from here so maybe do some digging here and see if schedules work in your favor.

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by pdb on Oct 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went past it the last time I was out there

But it was 17 miles off the main road, and we had other places to be for holidays. I took a picture of the sign and mentally cried in the car for the next 3 hours. :(

It’s good to know about the time necessary – there is a chance I may be in a position to go the next time we visit relatives in the Albany area. If we get a good headstart, we should be able to make it there in like two hours or so. I really want to go…

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by section331 on Oct 12, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone here play the guitar?

I think I’m getting an acoustic for my birthday and was wondering what good instructional books are out there.

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by JLProck on Oct 9, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hal Leonard has an entire series that I'd recommend.

Here’s the complete edition

If you’re looking to get it right away I know Mills Music stocks it.

by BrianL on Oct 9, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should do something like

this to commemorate Jeff!

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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 9, 2009 11:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure.

Entry #1: First appearance of spinning Laird

Entry #2: First appearance of sideways Laird

Entry #3: ?

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by JY on Oct 10, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one that laughed out loud multiple times while readin that thread?

That’s my kind of humor right there, yessir.

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by JLProck on Oct 10, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fascinated, but mostly appreciative

Football schadenfreude doesn’t get better than this. The whole organization is rotten, their ‘play’ is revolting, the coaches are fighting amongst themselves (really fighting! Not just giving reporters snarky comments on background! With fists!), it’s a perfect storm of dysfunction for our enjoyment!
Thank you, Raiders.

by marc w on Oct 12, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(I was really impressed by Walter's ASU career, but yeah....)

I write to HBO every year to pitch making the Raiders the subject of their ‘Hard Knocks’ series. Maybe next year; I think they’re kicking themselves that they DIDN’T choose the Raiders this year.

by marc w on Oct 12, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will allow all sorts of nonsense in his organization

He’s probably just wary of leaving a trail of evidence for some of it.

But damn it, the RATINGS that they could get – fistfights over cut decisions, fistfights over playcalling and playing time, interviews where Al Davis calls a different employee a sniveling little he-bitch each week, all tied together by copious amounts of ganja. That’s television, people.

by marc w on Oct 12, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Six in a row!

The US qualified for the World Cup over the weekend with a 3-2 win in Honduras. I’m hoping for more of a Korea/Japan ‘02 showing than a France ’98 or Germany ’06, but we’ll see. The US has made some good strides, but they’re still making baby steps as far as international competitions go.

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Confederations Cup?

A fine win, despite the 2 GA.
What was with the fact that no one televised it? I know, I know, it was a big Saturday night of college football (I watched the Huskies game, but would’ve liked the ability flip back and forth), but couldn’t ESPN have found room on something like ESPN Classic? And how about you, Fox Soccer Channel – leg one of the USL1 championship series? Worth televising, perhaps, but didn’t need to be live.

by marc w on Oct 12, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confed Cup was a glorified friendly and as such I put very little stock in the results

I don’t get why it wasn’t on, either – ESPN/ABC has first right of refusal to show the games, and between the two of them they have about a billion channels that it could have been on. Frustrating that it wasn’t given a bit more priority.

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well aren't you* special

*And 1 million other people I assume. I actually looked it up Sunday because I forgot if the game was sat or sun. Good job, US Soccer!

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what annoys me the most.

Why would you, as a national federation, not insist that a game in which your country will earn qualification not be televised SOMEWHERE?

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The internet!

I had it on in the background, but damn it if the Huskies didn’t make it hard to devote my full attention to it. Yes, the game absolutely needed to be televised live somewhere in America, but let’s face it: it’s not a huge deal to make the WC finals anymore. I’m glad about this state of affairs, but there it is.

by marc w on Oct 12, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I watched that one too.

But I could watch Russia-Germany (thanks CBC!), France-Faroe Islands (seriously, FSC?) and a few others. I would’ve liked to catch the Ireland/Italy game, but not enough to stop watching the UCLA/Oregon game.

Big win for the Ukraine, I guess. England didn’t give a shit, and I don’t blame them.

by marc w on Oct 12, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just glad the Faroes got some face time

they actually won a game last time! I saw the highlights of Ireland/Italy, and they were frustrating because all Ireland had to do in the last three minutes was nothing, and they couldn’t even do that right. I love the Irish but they are a maddening team to follow.

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What makes a good food bad for you?

My example of the day is the peanut butter and jelly sandwich I just picked up that has waaaay too much peanut butter. I feel like a dog.

by Mariner John on Oct 12, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a slave to ingredients/brand names and PB&J is a great example

I like the taste of Skippy. if someone hands me a PB&J made with another brand of PB I can totally tell the difference and I don’t like it as much. And don’t even wave any of that Adams Natural crap in my face. I want peanut butter product bound together with delicious chemicals. That’s the American way, dammit.

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It really is

and i don’t eat PB&J that often any more so we usually just get the Jif and call it good.

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. It's pretty terrible. I later hoped for a peanut butter that would taste exactly like the stuff in pb Twix.

Oddly? I’m not even a fan of candy. Peanut butter is my weakness in the sweets dept, I suppose

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 12, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

It didn’t have the texture either, it was just sort of…. blah.

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by JY on Oct 12, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loves me some creamy Jif.

Especially when you put it on warm toast, and it starts to get all melty. Pour a nice big class of cold milk, and that’s a helluva snack.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 12, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adams is gross.

All oily and stuff. Ugh.

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by JY on Oct 12, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We get a kind that has omega acids in it or some such crap.

It’s not bad, but as a result things like Jif are way too sweet. :(

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by section331 on Oct 12, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Adams was all I knew of the world of natural peanut butter I assumed it was all that way

but when I decided to stop buying things with hydrogenated oils whenever possible, I branched out and found that Maranatha is absolutely amazing. Their honey almond butter is similarly delicious.

by acblue on Oct 12, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well now I feel narrow-minded.

Thanks.

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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 13, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quiz time!

Mariners opening day lineups from 1990-2009

I got 173. Apparently I blocked Al Martin, John Mabry and Jeff Cirillo out of my memory.

by Mariner John on Oct 12, 2009 8:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus I wouldn't even know where to start

I’m really, really bad at stuff like that. I can barely piece together this year’s, much less 1992 or so.

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by pdb on Oct 12, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice one, only 165 here. Remembered Ben Davis before Alvin Davis, so those might not count.

I always forget about Al Davis. Remembering Brian Giles was a surprise, and Wilkerson. Jeremy Reed, now I really want to kick his ass, I could see him touching his hair but couldn’t remember his name.

by Kermit. on Oct 12, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

179.

Somehow I forgot entirely about Randy Winn and Mark McLemore.

I’m happy I got the whole of 1992, a little surprised I got all of 2006, since I wasn’t around to see much of that season. I mostly had trouble with our revolving door of left fielders; I missed nine of them.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 13, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I finally saw Knocked up

surprisingly sweet — and I made into the end credits before realizing Martin Starr was a) in the movie and b) who he played.

by msb on Oct 12, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Does not follow.
Zduriencik stated,

    "We will attempt to improve our offense. But, as I have said all along our ultimate goal is to improve the talent level top to bottom."

That essentially translates to "say good bye to Felix and Jose for me."

what.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we avoid piling on Pedro again?

I have no great love for his stuff either, and I’ve been guilty of it too, but I think we’ve all expressed our opinions on that particular topic enough.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All that negativity from that guy, every-decision-expect-the-worst-possible-outcome

It’s like driving someplace with my mother in law in the backseat. Pretty hard to read, just a little more over the top and it would be a riot.

by Kermit. on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its fun to pile on him in small doses

But only the hilarious leaps in logic, not the typical ones

by Poochie on Oct 13, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw that a few weeks ago and my thought was why?

I can mix liquor and cream at home with no trouble. Bailey’s already exists and this stuff is a malt beverage too, so yuck.

by Sec 108 on Oct 13, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it's...like Bailey's? I still don't understand what this product is....

It’s an alcoholic creamer you add to coffee? Or it’s an alcopop that’s, uh, cream flavored?

by marc w on Oct 13, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't know what you'd mix it with.

I mean maybe you could use it to make a milkshake? I don’t know. But everything about it is awful.

by acblue on Oct 13, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the last part.

Also, what’s with the Apple logo? Some fruit flavoring added to make it still more incomprehensible?

“See, you take a light lager, right, and then you add grapefruit flavor. Then, and this is the best part, you pour in some mustard. It’s refreshing, it’s crisp, it’s faintly reminiscent of hot dogs in summer. This is sense-memory shit that people will be powerless to resist. Trust me.”

by marc w on Oct 13, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

I....what? I still don't get it.

What is that FOR? Does anyone add creamer to their beer? If so, why?

by marc w on Oct 13, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what do your coworkers do that really annoys you?

The guy that sits next to me apparently brought in a semi-rotten banana for his lunch/snack/whatever this morning. He then threw the peel in his desk wastebasket instead of taking it the 100 feet into the breakroom and throwing it out there where it won’t stink up the entire row of cubicles.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 13, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Acts like he's my boss.

We do the same exact job, but he’s been doing it for five years.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 13, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy who sits next to me always want to freakin' chat, even when there's work to do.

I’ll put on my headphones to listen to music, and he’ll start talking to me. I do my best to annoy me, but sometimes he taps on the cubicle wall. I’ll take off my headphones, and he’ll tell me some stupid joke.

I swear to god he’s like a hunter. There are times when my headphones are on, and I can see him staring at me, just waiting to ensnare me with one of his interminable conversations. It makes me hesitant to take off my headphones, because as soon as I do, I’ll be toast. Sometimes I put off going to the bathroom.

He’s also extremely strange, and talks about strange things.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do that.

But if I have to get up to go to the printer, or go to the bathroom, then I’m forced to play nice with this guy.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to do that when I worked around other humans.

It makes me feel a bit antisocial and unprofessional, but sometimes people are so annoying that it’s in the company’s best interests that I find a way to ignore them.

by Teej on Oct 14, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whine constantly about hilarious mundane things like "why would they make food like that pho?"

and “I can’t believe that there were two muffins of that awful flavor in that variety pack of muffins I bought” and then get mad when you think it’s a joke

by seattlebruin on Oct 14, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

New quiz!

BCS Top 15 1998-2009

I got 148/165 and while I feel okay about a few misses, I am really annoyed at myself about a few others.

by acblue on Oct 13, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

153/165

Utah was my biggest blunder

by Fogel on Oct 13, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

153.

Damn Louisville and Georgia Tech.

by Mariner John on Oct 13, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

157/165

I missed two really easy ones and one I probably should have gotten

by seattlebruin on Oct 13, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Championship series broadcasts, PT

PHI @ LAD, Fri., Oct. 16, 12:07 PM
LAA @ NYY, Fri., Oct. 16, 4:57 PM

LAA @ NYY, Sat., Oct. 17, 4:57 PM

LAD @ PHI, Sun., Oct. 18, 5:07 PM

NYY @ LAA, Mon., Oct. 19, 1:13 PM
LAD @ PHI, Mon., Oct. 19, 5:07 PM

NYY @ LAA, Tue., Oct. 20, 4:57 PM

LAD @ PHI, Wed., Oct. 21, 5:07 PM*

NYY @ LAA, Thur., Oct. 22, 4:57 PM*

PHI @ LAD, Fri., Oct. 23, 5:07 PM*

LAA @ NYY, Sat., Oct. 24, 1:13 PM*
PHI @ LAD, Sat., Oct. 24, 5:07 PM*

LAA @ NYY, Sun., Oct. 25, 5:20 PM*

  • indicates ‘if necessary’

by msb on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Statham, Stallone, Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren, Erik Roberts, Goldberg?

That trailer is great! This movie might be right up there with Black Dynamite

by Kermit. on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap, I missed Mickey Rourke and Bruce Willis. Jesus, this cast list is amazing.

Throw in Jean Claude Van Damme and Schwarzenegger and that would be just about everybody.

by Kermit. on Oct 14, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does she even do these days?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with this.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

She was on Veronica Mars

and I gather also on Greek to good reviews

by msb on Oct 14, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Groo was decidedly un hot.

Too muscley. Too many teeth.

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 14, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

Right for unenlightened Cordy, wrong for everyone else.

by msb on Oct 14, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw

Lutz recently wrote & starred in a biopic for the CBC about Victor Davis I missed it, so have no idea if he was any more interesting when not playing vacant.

by msb on Oct 14, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SB went down so I missed this

Not complaining about 40, just amazed. She reminds me a bit of Famke Janssen. Hmmmm, Famke.

by Kermit. on Oct 14, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Randy Couture in there, I think.

That cast is… amazing? I’m not quite sure what to think yet.

Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Oct 14, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yes.

I’ve been looking forward to this movie for a year now.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any camera geeks in here?

Video or Photography (Besides PositivePaul)

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 14, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the whole point of OS X is that you don't need one

and I don’t say that to be snarky. It’s true. Just activate the mac’s built-in one (through System Preferences, I’m not in front of my Mac right now but it’s really easy to find) and you’ll be fine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get out, good to know.

I knew that used to be true, but since they went to the Linux based platform I wasn’t sure anymore. Thanks.

by Kermit. on Oct 14, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't swear that this will always be the case

but for now the Mac’s onboard one is fine. The potential return for a hacker is much less for a Mac than for a PC so they don’t typically bother.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 14, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently the future is trying to sabotage science

Who knew the future had so many secrets it doesn’t want us to reveal?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 14, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This blows my mind.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 14, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It hurt my head just to read it

but it’s oddly fascinating.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 14, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

George Steinbrenner proves this theory wrong, or else he isn't as big a POS as I think he is.

Because if he was then he wouldn’t exist. Or am I not understanding this theory correctly.

by Kermit. on Oct 14, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comedy Central has really, really gone downhill

This Secret Girlfriend show is probably the worst thing that’s ever been on tv.

by OlSalty on Oct 14, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They throw a lot of weird shite at the wall.

Some of it is horrible, some of it is Strangers with Candy. I’m sure the pitch for South Park made it seem like a longshot.

by waldo rojas on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the Spirit of Christmas, yeah

and it existed before Comedy Central bought it – it was probably one of the first viral videos on the Internet. Comedy Central only showed interest after it got huge on the interwebs.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 15, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It never fails to make me laugh

even now that I don’t care for South Park as much as I used to.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 15, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tried.

I think in my older age, I might come around, but at the time I was highly disappointed.

by Teej on Oct 15, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Further explained

JoePo is overrating segregation era players quite badly

Honus Wagner and Mickey mantle way too low, Foxx, Helton and Thome way too high, Pujols a bit high Barry Bonds only at #3, No Mark McGwire??? What the hell?.

by Poochie on Oct 15, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Frank Thomas ahead of Edgar.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 15, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't post this to argue with the conclusion.

I’m only pointing it out because I’ve frequently seen people argue “Edgar Martinez is considered a borderline HOFer. Frank Thomas had better numbers in his prime and played a position, but we don’t usually consider him to be a potential HOFer. Therefore, Edgar cannot be a HOFer.”

These may just be arguments that I remember from years ago. I don’t know if the general sentiment has changed.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 15, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've been able to quantify defense better

And the four years Edgar played at third give him more value then you would think. For example, many people forget 1992 as one of his great seasons, however he was second in slugging, won the batting title, and played ~110 games in the field (but for some reason he didn’t walk much).

by Poochie on Oct 15, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

But I do think JY is right that Thomas doesn’t get talked about as a lock as much as he should. Or maybe I just hang out with insane people.

by Teej on Oct 15, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, Dustin.

“I’ve always seemed to be a guy who stays late, then tries to find a hole up the middle or backside,’’ Ackley said."

by msb on Oct 15, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I understand psyching yourself up

but really, professional football players, maybe leave the helmet on and headbutt something else?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 15, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh

He did it in college.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And last year as well.

I love him to death for it.

by Robert on Oct 15, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god.

Snake with hand

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 15, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ulp

that’s freakish.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 15, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From that same news site

And Americans wonder why we have a bad image abroad. Kangaroos at the airports? Really?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 15, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Kristen Bell...

For shame.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really doubt the snake was "using (the limb) to climb up her wall"

The leg probably didn’t even work. It’s not that uncommon really for some snakes to be born with tiny stubs as an evolutionary holdover from before they lost their legs that sometimes reemerges, kinda like how some humans are born with tails.

Really interesting that it seems to be almost fully developed, though, that’s extremely rare.

by OlSalty on Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody pick up Brutal Legend?

On the one hand I’m not all that interested because an adventure game with RTS elements seems odd.

On the other hand, Tim Curry.

by BrianL on Oct 15, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Jack Black.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 15, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Jack Black for about 30 minutes at a stretch

anything more than that and I just want to punch him in the face. Exceptions will be made for Tropic Thunder and Barry Jive and the Uptown Five.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 15, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hated Tropic Thunder because it sucked.

Oh, and Tom Cruise too. He was godawful in that film.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 15, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have the demo and will give it a look, but I'm not overly excited.

I’m bogged down with Uncharted 2, The Show, Fight Night Round 4 and Trials HD. And FIFA 10 comes out Tuesday. The fall onslaught has begun.

Trials HD is a blast, by the way.

by Teej on Oct 15, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And after a couple of hours, I'm really impressed with Uncharted 2.

Like the last one, the big shootouts are annoyingly hard, so I had to flip it to easy, but it’s still a lot of fun.

by Teej on Oct 15, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's Fight Night 4?

Enough of an improvement to warrant buying if I have FN3?

by waldo rojas on Oct 15, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like it.

But it depends on what you like. After playing the previous games for years, I found FN3 to be a bit sluggish, and FN4 goes back to the faster-moving days of the PS2. Which I like. One annoying thing is that when you’re in career mode, the training exercises are too easy to screw up, so I end up simulating most of them, which means my dude doesn’t progress quickly. Which is more realistic, I guess. Also, as you get closer to winning a belt, the AI tends to get cheap with the counter punches. It makes me fight smarter, but it’s a bit frustrating.

Overall, I’ve really enjoyed it, and even the parts I don’t like might end up making me like the game even more because of the realism. But I imagine I’m two or three weeks away from getting bored with it, as I do with most boxing games. So I just rented it this time around.

by Teej on Oct 15, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The demo was a blast

The game has a killer soundtrack, and Tim Schafer is amazing.

Tim Curry is only in the game because Ronny James Dio dropped out after finding out that Ozzy Osbourne was going to be a character

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 15, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umpires announced for the next round....

Oddly enough, umpires Kulpa, Meals, Cuzzi, Bucknor nor Gibson made the list

by msb on Oct 15, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't there a rule about working the WS in consecutive years as well? The made it really stupid, that part I remember clearly.

The rest of it, not so much. There’s no need, in my opinion, to guarantee every umpire a shot at post season bonuses, they should earn it. That umpire union is screwing themselves right into the ground.

by Kermit. on Oct 15, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So apparently a 6 year old kid climbed into a hot air balloon and floated away in Colorado

People are flipping out about it and don’t know how to get him down. The balloon looks like what would happen if the inventor of Jiffy Pop was an alien

Click the link on KIRO TV’s website

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 15, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is so awesome.

I am a terrible person.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 15, 2009 12:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs