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102709 OTDOD - Home Improvement Edition

It's new OTD time again, folks. In lieu of the usual OT fare of video games, books, making fun of celebrities and yuppies, etc. I've decided to go with a different theme for my occasional contribution to this wonderful site - home improvement.

This is a topic that has been the bane of my existence for the past month and a half, as I bought quite the clunker and am determined to make it livable on a budget. I won't go LLFB and detail every change I've made so far, but here are a couple things that I've done, and a longer list of neat stuff I'm looking to do.

Done -
* New kitchen cabinets
* Bedroom tear out, replacing wiring (drywall going up soon!)

Neat stuff that I may want to build/do in the future -
Catwalk on the ceiling
- I don't even like the cat, but I think this would be awesome, especially the carpeted pole in the front room (maybe have the carpet removable so it can serve double duty without the rug burns)
Spray foam insulation - I can't do it now because of time constraints, but this is something I will be coming back to in the near term. It's the wave of the future, and it's not a flying car this time. R-Value of 21 for a 2x4 framed wall with built-in leak sealing and vapor barrier? Yes, please.

Normal projects in the pipeline -
Make a real front door
Built-in office desks and shelving
Tear down and rebuild shed
Replace deck/patio

Links to sites that I read about housing/remodeling/design -
http://diydiva.net/
http://www.inhabitat.com/
http://www.doityourself.com/

So, now comes the sharing portion of  the show. What things have you done to make your place more livable? Good ideas that maybe you don't see everywhere? Any questions about work you want to do? I know I have quite a bit of experience in roofing, siding, electrical, insulation and tree work. I'm sure there are other people here that know about other things as well.

As always, normal OTD rules apply - talk about whatever within the rules.

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Also, my neck hurts from shaking my head at all the shit the last owner did horribly, horribly wrong.

Splices in the walls? No grounding for the main box? Electrical tape as pipe fitting tape? Ugh.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 7:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

It would appear the previous owner of my house fancied himself quite the general contractor. We knew something was wrong with the wiring, because we’d blow a circuit by doing something like making tea while a light was on in a totally separate part of the house. We’ve added 5 lines (things like getting the oven on a dedicated line), and it’s still not quite right.
We totally redid the kitchen last year, and put down slate tile (and that cool underfloor heating mat stuff!), and unwittingly found that previous owner/bob villa wanna be had run a live wire across the kitchen floor. We missed it by an inch when we were running the circular saw through the old laminate to start demo. That was close.

I still want to put in a half bath and water in my basement, though I realize that if I did, I would probably never leave. Finishing the basement was a project from 2 years ago, and it’s probably been the biggest return-on-investment deal since we bought the house, oh, 8 years ago. Sheesh, that was 8 years ago?

by marc w on Oct 27, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you'll find more.

I decided to make the best of my chaotic moving situation and tear out all the inside walls and start fresh before settling into the room. I’m only doing it room by room, but everything I find goes into the dumpster. There’s pre-asbestos insulation in all the walls, wires run between lath boards, a MISSING ROOF JOIST, no wire nuts to be found, the washer drain going straight into the drain pipe w/o a one way valve, etc.

Luckily for me, the two biggest things are new, the main electrical box and the furnace. Everything after that is just running lines and ductwork (and a ROOF JOIST).

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that underfloor heating mat.

Did you use the kind that has to be covered in grout and left to set first, then tiled? Or the all-in-one-step type. These are the only types I’m familiar with at this point.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recommend it, yeah. It's not perfect, but it's really nice in the winter

I don’t remember what the other type costs, but it’s undoubtedly more.

There seems to be a spot on the floor where it doesn’t get too warm, but it’s off in a corner, and I don’t care all that much.

by marc w on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the idea of the catwalk. I wish I could do something like that for my kitty.

That DIY site is a little misleading when they’re talking about the potential drawbacks to using sprayfoam insulation at the underside of the roof. They say that it’s an industry “standard” to ventilate the attic. This makes it sound like it’s questionable whether you should ventilate your attic or not, but in Washington and Oregon, and any other state that has adopted the IBC (International Building Code), it’s required by the building code that you ventilate the attic.

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by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 7:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that part does vary by state.

The states that use the ICC allow non-ventilated attics, and even in states where the IBC is used there are variances that are usually easy to get as long as you make clear the attic will be within the interior air envelope.

Also, there are ventilated runners that will work with spray foam application that offer the best of both worlds.

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by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have much experience with residential inspectors

but commercial inspectors aren’t usually very flexible when it comes to code violations.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our house was built to contractor grade

(read: cheap-ass Home Depot finishing everywhere)

so we’re in the long, slow process of making it look better. Nothing major, fortunately, it’s all mostly cosmetic – we’ve put down laminate flooring in the living room, we’re going to learn how to tile so we can replace the linoleum in the kitchen and bathrooms, and we’’re replacing sinks and faucets everywhere. I had no idea that faucet replacement is as easy as it is – our kitchen faucet didn’t even require tools. Crazy. We do want to replace the kitchen cabinets, though – how involved was that process? How much did you know about doing it before you started? For some reason that project terrifies me.

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 7:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cabinets are pretty tricky.

There’s a lot of fine woodworking skills required. They’re difficult to level, because often times the kitchen floor framing isn’t level at all. If you’re planning on having a solid surface countertop installed, be prepared to buy a six-foot level and a planer, because you’ll have to do a lot of checking, double-checking, and planing of your base cabinets to get them as close to perfectly level as you can.

The folks who installed our solid surface countertop had to come out twice because we weren’t in their tolerance for level the first time around. We spent a lot (and I mean a lot) of time planing off our base cabinets.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly right, and then some.

One thing I also recommend (that I didn’t do) is to not get wall cabinets that go all the way to the ceiling. All this gives you is the same headache you had with the base cabinets, but with more plucking it off the wall and putting it back up.

Crown molding only does so much, and if you have a bad enough ceiling you have to level that as well.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Faucets are easy to replace when they are recent.

Older houses can have compression or solder fittings that have to be the most ornery, pain in the ass fittings I’ve had to try and take off.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Help me fix a toilet!

so the stopper on the inside of my toilet bowl won’t go back down after I flush, and it empties the entire bowl every time. I would be much more worried, but we don’t pay for water (landlord does), it’s just annoying to have to lift the bowl to push the stopper back down every time.

Any idea how to make the stopper go back to sealed after I flush? I can provide pictures later.

by seattlebruin on Oct 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure the chain attached to the stopper isn't kinked?

Sometimes a few of the links will become tangled up in the lever that is attached to the flush handle.

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by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check to see if the chain is somehow wrapped around itself, or broken, or if it's slipped off the stopper

I guess you’d see that if you were pushing the stopper down every time.
Is the stopper, er, stopping just above the hole, or is it not really moving at all?

by marc w on Oct 27, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like it could be a problem with the float.

Sometimes you have to bend the metal piece that the float is attached to to make sure that it engages the water in the tank correctly.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be rusted joints in the mechanism.

You could take it off and WD-40 it or just replace it (they’re cheap).

by waldo rojas on Oct 27, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it's completely stuck my guess would be it's the hinge of the stopper that's the problem

Try taking it off and look at the hinges to see if there’s rust buildup or something.

by OlSalty on Oct 27, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simple fix, see if adding a link to your chain will do it.

Sometimes the chain is too short and it pulls the flapper up too far, so gravity won’t pull it back down on its own.

Easy way to test this is see if not pushing the handle down all the way fixes it. Just push it enough to flush and see if it goes back down.

Otherwise maybe the arm on your handle isn’t long enough (so it pulls it back too far) or the flapper is binding at the bottom (try turning off the water to your toilet and manually moving the flapper, see if it sticks anywhere)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also check the stopper itself, sometimes some algae will grow on it or the rim of the hole.

And if the stopper is really old, for whatever reasons they can become brittle and stiff and need to be replaced. They don’t always have to be that old either, maybe some materials are just cheap, or react badly to cleaning agents like the little clorox pucks people like to put in there.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you replace your deck I recommend using Azek composite.

It doesn’t scratch or mold like other composites. Its what I used when I built my deck last spring.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Composite dick.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But does it fade under prolonged exposure to UV is what I want to know.

Some of those composites don’t hold color very well, and who wants a grey deck.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

So I can quit it now? This is good to know!

This was actually a good healing exercise. It’s been so long since the Yankees have hurt me, it was time to let go of the anger and resentment I’ve been holding on to all these years. You’ve helped me finally learn how to talk about them, laugh about them, and shown me how to empower myself.

It really wasn’t about the Yankees anymore, that team doesn’t even exist . Oh sure, there’s a few players still there, but without Williams, Knoblauch, O’Neill, or the rest of them, it’s just a shadow of the team that hurt me. So it wasn’t about hating the Yankees anymore, it was about holding onto the pain and anger. And it was time to stop, I was ready. Thank you seattlebruin, for giving me my life back.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfect timing - I just discovered water damage in my skylight in my bathroom.

My house is only 5 years old and I went up to the roof yesterday and couldn’t find anything that would’ve caused the leak. I’m thinking it was condensation because the leak doesn’t start at the top of the skylight. Anyone else had anything similar?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

We have 2 skylights and no other windows. And neither skylight opens. Plus we have the bad habit of never running the exhaust fan when taking a shower.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Run the exhaust fan.

Especially with no other ventilation source in your bathroom. That’s probably what’s causing your problem.

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Water damage isn't your only worry at that point

Mold can grow really easy anywhere in a bathroom if you don’t ventilate.

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

And it can actually be poisonous in a poorly ventilated area, so check the corners behind your toilet and such to make sure you don’t have any already.

by OlSalty on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get the timer switch for it.

Easy swap, switch for switch, and you can just turn the dial and it’ll run for 1/2 hour.

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by Faux on Oct 27, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm home sick.

What are the best movies on Netflix Instant Watch? I’m looking for cheesy/epic.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Danny McBride, too.

The movie was an odd one, but I enjoyed it more than I expected to.

by Teej on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do comedy writers feel their films need a plot?

The best part of these movies is usually the first 1/4 – 1/2, when the characters are being introduced and setup. Then they devolve into some ludicrous, half-assed action movie or horror film or romance that’s not funny and not compelling. What would be wrong with just following the funny characters around for the entire movie, watching them be funny?

by waldo rojas on Oct 27, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go watch Hot Rod.

It will solve all your problems.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes yes yes.

I loved Hot Rod so much.

Cool Beans.

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by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool beans

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FEAR DOT COM

Finish it!

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

88%!

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to start all over

I don’t remember a thing about it.

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you do that to yourself?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was drunk and we were looking for a shitty horror movie

That one wasn’t even entertaining though

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cause we did a watch now party

And both feel asleep with our significant others waking us up wondering why we had headsets on.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DOUBLE TEAM!!!!

Jean-Claude Van Damme & Dennis Rodman. Need I say more? Oh what…Mickey Rourke is the villain? Seriously. Watch. Now.

by SethGrandpa on Oct 27, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, what the fuck happened to Mickey Rourke's face?

I caught part of some 80’s movie, and he used to be a good looking guy. Now he looks like a freak. Was it plastic surgery?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also water knocking sounds!

Coming from the bladder like thing on my hot water “in” line. I replaced the bladder and it changed the pitch of he water sounds but I’m still getting the issue. I’m wondering if I need a pressure regulator.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You have old plumbing lines that need to be replaced.

I have the same issue. The pressure coming from the intake is too high for the old piping.

by Sec 108 on Oct 27, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But my house is only 5 years old. Could they have used the wrong piping?

It has been said that since I have a firestation that does training in our area that it affects our water pressure and causes knocking. But I’m the only one that has the issue consistently.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does that look like?

And should that go before or after the “bladder”

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait, disregard. I read that incorrectly.

I was thinking on the house side of the water heater, not the intake side.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Folger's Crystals

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

French Press.

2 tablespoons per 6 oz. Press down after 4-5 minutes and drink immediately. Otherwise coffee will be bitter. It may seem as though this is a lot of coffee to water, but if you use less, the coffee will be bitter. Bitter is to be avoided.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 27, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a small french press at work

since everyone else drinks Folgers around here, it’s the only way to get good coffee. I like the coffee it makes, but they’re a bit of a pain to clean.

I have a small drip machine that’s fast and easy to clean; perfect for work mornings.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 10:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Soccer today!

I don’t care if it’s the Carling Cup. It’s still soccer.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 27, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

SOUNDERS SOUNDERS SOUNDERS

I spent my day off yesterday playing Houston on FIFA while blaring songs from this page. I can’t decide if this is awesome or terribly nerdy.

by Robert on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Craigslist subthread!

furnish my apartment! I need a dresser for my room, dining table and chairs and a coffee table. Must be located in Inland Empire or San Diego (strongly prefer San Diego), and reasonably priced (total budget is ~$125, and no item should exceed $100)

I have a medium brown tile floor for the two tables with a two tone couch, espresso base and chocolate-colored cushions.

For the dresser, it’s in a room with a dark cherry-ish bed, and needs to sit a 46" TV on top of it.

Go!

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/

by seattlebruin on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What is with the word "dinning"

it is spelled “d-i-n-i-n-g.” You do not eat dinner at a dinning table.

by seattlebruin on Oct 27, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I eat diner at a dinning table.

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by Phildopip on Oct 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dinnering table

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might also want to check local thrift stores

Some people are dumb and donate decent furniture instead of selling it, and thrift store prices always rock

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My brother got a 3 piece matching living room set for like $80 at a Value Village

Couch, loveseat and recliner, in black. They looked brand new. He was stoked

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, sofas/cloth furniture are the one thing I can't get without knowing the reasonable history of

I’m so deathly allergic to cats that I need to know that cats haven’t been the furniture. With solid surfaces, it’s not perfect, but a good cleaning will do wonders

by seattlebruin on Oct 27, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to check thrift stores, I had the best luck

on Sports Arena Blvd, there’s a Goodwill and a Salvation Army about a block apart that aren’t terrible.

I never had any luck at the Baras chain.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 10:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Don't haggle over something like $10.

It’s a good deal on CL, and they’ll just sell to the person who offers what they ask.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for the idea.

My coffee table has had a wobbly leg, which snapped off while I was watching a recent Seahawks game with friends. I’ve been in the market for a new table, and it didn’t even occur to me to look on Craigslist.

by katal on Oct 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's your table and chairs, asking $100

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/fuo/1430782388.html

Because I know you have to haggle, don’t try for lower than $75.

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by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, you HAVE MONEY!

Why waste everyone’s time with lowball offers? These are great deals already, you don’t have to insult them.

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by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 11:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Offer $40.

Be strong. Your negotiating through email – makes it easier not to break!

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God damn it! SHIT!

I’m out of god damn tea. Awww, for pete’s sake!

If I can make it to a store without punching anyone, what kind of tea should I get, which is a way of asking what kind/brand of tea you prefer?

by marc w on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lemon Lift!

And when that runs out, whatever’s in the Meals on Wheels room.

by Teej on Oct 27, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

I’ve bought some Yogi Tea in the past but it’s realistically about thirty variations on four or five different teas and a lot of them are fruity. They are effective at what they claim to do though, the Detox Teas do help (I use them for hangovers) as does the stomach settling one, but generally they are a bit fruity.

To summarize, better offerings are available for just tea purposes and from now on I think I’m just going to peruse the aisles of the Japanese supermarket.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 27, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Tetleys, and PG tips

you just missed a swell sale at Bartell’s on Stash tea, which has some good flavors. Trader Joes actually has some nice tea (even the decaf, a decent cuppa is hard to find)

by msb on Oct 27, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not big on Stash, though I love PG tips (that's what I just ran out of)

Yeah, the trader joe’s surprised me, but I’ll probably just get more PG. That or Yorkshire Gold.

by marc w on Oct 27, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only some of the Stash ...

lemon ginger is ok, and the decaf English breakfast if you have to go decaf.

by msb on Oct 27, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I am having iced tea Red Rose.

If I am having hot tea with caffeine, Mighty Leaf Earl Grey. If I am having hot tea without caffeine, Yogi Licorice Root.

by acblue on Oct 27, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems one is either a bergamot-er or not

Lapsang souchong is another divider of tea drinkers

by msb on Oct 28, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, and yes.

The cilantro of beverage flavorings.

I kind of want to snort powdered bergamot.
Lapsang Suchong doesn’t really smell or taste like something people are meant to ingest.

by marc w on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody know of a site where I can find MP3's for cellphone notifications?

The stock sounds for android that I can assign for text messages are too brief and quiet and I tend to not notice it. I’m not looking for an obnoxious one or voice one, just one that I wont likely miss. My old WM6.1 Treo had an amazing one but I can’t find it anywhere.

by Robert on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2010 CFB futures bets

UCLA wins – Over/Under 3.5

by seattlebruin on Oct 27, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why meth?

Why not meth?

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of those commercials that warns against meth.

Is someone I went to high school with. He looks like hell.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

!

Photobucket

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

of all the things that are wrong with mid-80's Agassi

you noticed the belly hair most?

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its a lot of belly hair.

The outfit just reminds me of my brother.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay! The Army Corps of Engineers released updated flood maps for the Green River Valley

In all but the most minor of flooding events, my place of work will be under up to 2 feet of water at a minimum. Good times. Maps at the link here

Does this look to effect anybody else here at all?

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I suppose that may effect you then

Both of our shops will flood if anything happens, which would be quite terrible

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to go, Seattle Times! (or, Hey SB! Sparkle Sparkle!)

The Seattle Times is running a Twilight contest, inviting people to declare their allegiance to Team Edward or Team Jacob in the comments.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/movies/2010138949_twilightcontest.html?cmpid=2628

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by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 12:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

These are fun!

“These are some of the reasons on why to be team Edward. For starters he is extremely hansome , romantic, protective, will die for you , has your best interest at heart doesn’t want to do anything to hurt you and if breaking your heart is what he has to do to protect you then that is what he will do , he has centuries of knowledge and is willing to share information with you , he has passion in his eyes for the one he can’t live with out . That is why i am team Edward for he is the perfect man that all women dream of and long for … "

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 12:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

*teen

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the holidays

LL should do a Christmas pantomime. I’ve always thought America should do that.

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can be the pantomime horse!

Sometimes they’re secret agents!

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it taste just like raisins?

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robert!

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 27, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robert with an older chick?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 27, 2009 1:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

THIS!

LL should absolutely make a teen comedy! It can star Big Vin Diesel as Jeff, Hulk Hogan as Graham, and Wesley Snipes as Matthew!

The three will race across Europe, tracking down a very expensive bottle of wine wine! The climax of the film will feature an incredible hot air balloon chase! Yes!

by katal on Oct 27, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

As I've said,

I really hope that some nasty storms go through the Northeast for the next couple weeks, preventing the series from finishing until sometime in December. Then maybe the MLB will plan the thing a bit better. I mean, what if the next one is Colorado and Minnesota, and it snows the whole time? This is a bunch of bullshit

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we'll get lucky and the temperature will drop to below zero with a stiff breeze just for kicks.

Nothing says post season baseball excitement like sub-zero wind chill conditions! I’m already getting excited thinking about the endless possibilities for Selig to say stupid shit while trying to sort it out.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the start of season should be moved up to early March.

I built a koi pond once with extensive use of spray foam insulation. Great stuff.

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by 44FAN on Oct 27, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The WBC is the only reason the WS is this late.

But I still don’t understand why the WS couldn’t start tonight.

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, I had forgotten about that.

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by 44FAN on Oct 27, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think scheduling some double headers is the simplest answer.

Half a dozen for every team, make one of them a single ticket event.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why can't we just schedule the first world series game after the ALCS and NLCS are completed?

If you bought tickets to the world series I’m pretty sure you’re willing to take a personal day when the date changes.

by OlSalty on Oct 27, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know there are some U2 fans 'round these parts

Did you know Bono and co are coming to Qwest in June?

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by pdb on Oct 27, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Scary robot news!

Anybody here remember the Big Dog (be ready for SCARY at the :35 mark) created by Boston Dynamics? They’ve now created Petman, a bipedal walking robot that will possibly terrify you. Watch the video here

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 27, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That is insane.

But yeah, :35 is freakin’ WEIRD.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you've played Half Life 2: Episode 2

Tell me that the big dog doesn’t remind you of the hunters. TERROR

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*sheer

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT CATCHES ITSELF FROM FALLING JUST LIKE REAL THINGS DO

AND IT WON’T FALL WHILE ON ICE EITHER, BECAUSE IT KNOWS

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bittersweet day.

I like the world series even if my team isn’t in it [i.e. every year]. However, this will be the first year that the WS has not been shown on free UK TV. For the previous 12 years, every WS game was shown live and it was awesome, but due to the recession five tv cut back on their American sports coverage, and baseball was cut.

So, tonight is about the game but also remembering the awesome show that introduced me to baseball in the first place. It is just a shame that no other people will have the same opportunity that I had [unless they pay £12/month for ESPN…].

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
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by EnglishMariner on Oct 27, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Favorite types of bacon?

I like hickory smoked and peppered the most.

Favorite way to eat bacon?
I like a strip of bacon and two slices of cheese on a lightly toasted english muffin half.

by lailaihei on Oct 27, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

That stuff cooks away into nothing.

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by JY on Oct 28, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes when I get fancybacon, it kind of tastes like fish.

I don’t know if it is a fault or a feature but I think it is kind of gross.

by waldo rojas on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, let's.

There’s a cafe two blocks east of me where they serve Billionaire’s Bacon, which is essentially bacon cooked in brown sugar until it develops a sort of glaze. Ideally, and most frequently, the bacon is firm but not crisp, retaining that meaty consistency as you chew through it. They serve it separately as a side, but I prefer to get it with the Eggs in a Basket, which would be more easily recognizable (to me at least) as Eggs in Frame, a center hole cut out of two slices of rye bread with an egg fried in each until just before the yolk hardens up. You get a a bit of each in every forkful, consuming it with small French press’ worth of coffee on the side, and sit there soaking it all in as the foot traffic goes by.

That’s generally how Fridays go for me.

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by JY on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the west side of Amsterdam Avenue between 109th and 110th St. in Manhattan.

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by JY on Oct 27, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They gonna franchise that sucker or what?

Because otherwise this ain’t happening.

by Kermit. on Oct 27, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it.

It’s one of those oddball places with local artwork on the walls, where you end up knowing most of the people on staff.

Besides, their business model, which includes half price food Mondays, half price wine bottles on Wednesday (with food orders, of course), and free tapas everyday, is not especially conducive to a large corporation.

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by JY on Oct 28, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

It doesn’t have pepper in it as far as I know.

If you Google the phrase “Billionaire Bacon” it will come up with a whole list of recipes from places around NYC that claim to have done it first.

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by JY on Oct 28, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody remember drawing a "Stussy" or "Super S"?

I thought it was just something we did in California when I was in late elementary school (around 1992), but it appears it was a nationwide phenomenon.

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by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Why did everyone draw these things?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 28, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No clue.

But I remember feeling so cool that I was one of the people who knew how to draw one.

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by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did they field a full strength side though?

I saw the score but it was the first round of the Copa Del Rey and I’m not sure if major Spanish sides take it seriously or not. Either way it’s a big result though.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it was a decent side on further research

Although any team with Jerzy Dudek in goal is always in danger of shipping a lot of goals. Benzema and Raul played, although a lot of the first team seemed to be injured. But still.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I thought I was blocked from LL at work but apprently that is incorrect.

I am, however, unable to login from the drop-down menu, scroll, reply/rec/flag, switch to widescreen or post comments from work. I can see the site, I can login from the “Join the Conversation!” box at the bottom of threads, but if I want to do anything besides read I have to use the mobiLLe site.

Any ideas why this would be?

by acblue on Oct 28, 2009 9:24 AM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

What browser are you running?

Also, your company’s admins could have locked down things like javascript and other plug-in languages for security reasons – I don’t know the backbone of LL but that could be a reason.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Firefox 3.0.14, but same deal on IE.

I’m assuming it’s a blocked script; I think Ajax is what makes the things I’m having trouble with go, but it’s weird because I’m fully functional on other websites with similar features. SO I dunno. Guess I’m Eyebrowsing.

by acblue on Oct 28, 2009 9:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Give it a couple months and make friends with an IT guy

then ask him/her about it.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's sounds dangerous.

Make friends with an IT guy and they become that puppy who shadows you everywhere you go.

by Sec 108 on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a joke in case you missed that part.

We have a few very cool IT people who hang out here.

by Sec 108 on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of such things,

anyone watch The I.T. Crowd?

by msb on Oct 28, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hilarious.

I’ve only seen a couple of episodes, but it’s ridiculously silly and fun.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also ...

Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace.

by msb on Oct 28, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT people are awesome

I’m one of them. All I meant was don’t demand unfettered access to everything right away, because that makes you sound dickish.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize that.

Sorry, I forget how hard it is to convey sarcasm over the internet.

by xero3k on Oct 28, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which obviously means

the CB at UConn was making unrealistic demands of his friendly IT professional. There’s a lesson to be learned here.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They block sbnation.com.

Probably Websense, as I’m in the same boat (but can get around it).

The login function goes through sbnation.com, so it just takes you nowhere.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may have a special lunch or after-hours policy.

Try to login before or after work or during lunch, and it may go and you’ll carry the cookie for it 24 hours.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don't.

I tried to check my Facebook while I was off the clock for lunch yesterday and it was blocked.

by acblue on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, maybe not that then...

Odd, as that’s the same exact problems I have with my filter.

Maybe they store the scripts on SBN and your browser is set to not allow cross-site scripting. In FF this is difficult to lock down, you may be able to get into your settings to change it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOLY BALLS NBA TICKETS ARE EXPENSIVE

It’s been years since I’ve gone to an NBA game that I’ve paid for – I go to a game every couple years but usually in comp seats from a friend’s work. A seat in the lower level of the Rose Garden is a minimum of $53, all the way to $150 for club seats. Looks like we’ll be in the $19 nosebleeds at the top corner! I had no idea.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa.

I remember getting Sonics tickets for about 15 bucks. And they were decent seats, too.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, these are pretty crazy.

I can see paying the $19, or maybe even the $25 to get the seats paralleling the court at the very top, but that’s about as high as I will go.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

$19 is pretty good for a professional team.

I was looking at how much tickets are for the local Ice Hockey team, and they wanted £12 per ticket! For Ice Hockey! English Ice Hockey!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 28, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably close up though

for $19, you’re talking back row of the Staples Center in the upper deck

by seattlebruin on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god Staples is so much more than even the RG

Can’t even get into the lower level for less than $100 for premium games, and for everything else it’s at least $90. Crap.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are the second-worst seats in the venue though.

I can sit right behind the Diamond Club at Safeco, close to home plate, for $40 ($65 day of game). $40 at the Rose Garden doesn’t even get me into the lower level.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair the ticket prices at Safeco are very reasonable as well, I was delighted with the prices when I went compared to my trip to New York.

Having never been to a basketball game, how much of an impact does it have sitting close compared to far away? Is it like baseball/boxing where you miss a lot of the action, or football where it doesn’t really impact on your enjoyment much?

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Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on how serious of a fan you are

I’m a pretty casual basketball fan, so I don’t mind sitting high up – I get a good view of the whole court and of the players, and can get a sense of how plays develop and how the game flows.. If you really want to watch an individual player or matchup, though, you want to be close.

The typical basketball arena is a little smaller physically than the O2, and typically holds 18-20,000 people; the Rose Garden also is fairly steeply raked for a modern arena, so the cheap-ass seats are still pretty decent.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate you Portland.

http://burgerville.com/ – Check out the Nomad under the main flash.

This truck needs to go nationwide, preferably starting in NJ.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking sweet.

I loooooove their spicy anasazi bean burger.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They've also started putting complete nutritional info for what you bought on their receipts

not just calorie counts. So you know exactly how disastrous that double cheeseburger is!

But they also allow bikes through their drive through so good for them. I’m not a huge Burgerville fan – shakes great, burgers not so much – but I love that they do stuff like this.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which?

Bikes in the drive through? Nothing illegal about it, but most companies don’t allow it. Burgerville does.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a similar note for all you LL folks in Portland,

Check out Big-Ass Sandwiches coming soon to SW 3rd & Ash. My old neighbors are starting it up because they both were laid off this year and decided to say screw it to working for someone else anymore.

by Sec 108 on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehhhh...

Why the fuck did they have to use that fucking stupid Kanye meme on their website?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't have burgers in trucks

But we do have Wafels & Dinges, and those things definitely need to go nationwide.

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by JY on Oct 28, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Havarti and Turkey? Classy.

Wafels & Dinges only does the sweet stuff, nothing savory, so it’s fudge, or nutella, or fruits, nuts sometimes, and they have a syrup and bacon if you really wanted it. But Flavour Spot seems to take it into a whole new evolutionary level.

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by JY on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never really had a desire to own a smartphone

but this….this makes me kinda start to rethink that stance. This is awesome.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's amazing, is what it is. Oh, and FREE

Here’s what Garmin and Tom Tom shareholders have to say about it:

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much

The world can be very unfair sometimes. Google offers more features, portability, and usability than pretty much any other GPS on the market, and for no cost. Amazing

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doing which thing?

I’m hopped up on cold meds and will blame that for not following you here

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. GPS navigation has been a standard feature on my plan for years.

(Though I’d prefer Google’s version because I’m sure it’s less cumbersome.)

by Teej on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They do free, graphical turn-by-turn navigation?

I thought it involved a fee of some kind, either per-use or an inexpensive monthly fee

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Verizon wants 10/month.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why it's so amazing

Verizon has in one fell swoop gone from being the most closed platform on the planet to one of the most open, at least in the smartphone world. No need to pay for the relatively useless VZNavigator (I had it on a free trial once and it wasn’t as good as any other nav system I’ve used) if you have a smartphone, now.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was getting at

Although, in the interest of fairness, Google has said that this maps app will be updated across most platforms eventually (i.e. iPhone, Palm Pre, etc.)

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just excited that Verizon got it first

they’ve gotten a really bad rep about their smartphones – most of it deserved – and while I don’t have one and aren’t in the market for one, I dearly love Verizon and its awesome network reach, and I’m glad that their smartphone options are catching up to it.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're still pretty closed.

Most new phones still don’t have Wi-Fi or GPS. Hell, even the BB Curve 8300 was released without both 6 months after the Storm release.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I understand it

Verizon has committed to all its Android phones being “completely open” to everything Android offers. if they hold to that (which they seem to be at least for the first releases), the closed Verizon platform of the Blackberrys will die a fairly rapid death, methinks.

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by pdb on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope so.

GPS was the one and only thing that I liked about ATT over Verizon.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 28, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's an e-mail I just received from Time Warner
Time Warner Cable – Congratulations. Your order has been installed.

Congratulations. Your service has been installed.

David,

Congratulations on your recent installation and welcome to Time Warner Cable.

A little repetitive? I think I am being congratulated for having my cable installed.

by seattlebruin on Oct 28, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is an important milestone for you.

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by JY on Oct 28, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will get it tonight

suggest you text me to remind me

by seattlebruin on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

We’ll blow you up until you get a headset

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tomuccalucca

I think that’s how you pronounced it last night

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something like that.

I blame cold medicine and hooked on phonics.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have cable installed?

Couldn’t tell from the email.

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by Faux on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It should say

“I’m sorry You have Time Warner Cable”

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you need installation to get cable?

I thought plug-and-play was sort of the deal these days

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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 28, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs