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It's Friday, 10/23/09, and we need another OTFPOTD


The recent OTFPOTD has exceeded the critical mass of 1000+ posts.  I was going to save this one for Monday, but eh, I've never done one of these and I'm way overdue anyway.

Possible Questions:

* Fall has been a topic of late, both in Seattle and NYC, where we are jumping wildly from low-60s to low-40s and back again on any given day.  We've talked holidays and nature and football and BEER, so here's another question with a different spin on it: do your music listening habits change with the leaves?  Do certain bands or albums typify fall for you more than any other season?  Extra credit: what about reading?

* Strangest book you have ever read?  Strangest movie you have ever seen?  Explicate.  Was it worth it?

* What non-curse, non-buzz word would you care to never hear again? 

* Via MarinerJohn, what's your favorite archipelago?

* Via waldo rojas, most overrated board games?

* Let's talk disappointment... in music.  Who is an artist that you were really excited about back in the day that never followed up in the way you expected, or otherwise got mired in prolonged periods of mediocrity?

* Movie series reboots have probably been done.  What about video game series reboots?  Any particular successes, failures, or ones that generated mixed reactions?

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Great stuff, J.

1) I was thinking about this earlier, as I had made something like a summer playlist, and kept in mind what I’d listen to in the fall (or winter). The primary thing that wasn’t for summer, but was good for the fall was post-rock for some reason. Probably the fact that since Friday Night Lights, Explosions in the Sky is the soundtrack to every slo-mo football highlight that aspires to something more than a Stuart Scott one-liner. So yeah, post-rock.

2) I don’t know, but I’m still desperate to see that insane Thai western from several years back that everyone talks about as a great/insane movie. I’ll have to think more about the book portion….

3) “right-size”

4) I still may have to go with the Lofotens, but they’re so small. I think we need a heavyweight/middleweight/flyweight-type of system. Maybe use the AAA/AA/A B11/B8 framework. Lofotens for flyweight, maybe Japan for the big boys. New Zealand for middleweights?

5) They’re pretty much all overrated. Nostalgia makes them seem more complex/nuanced/fun than they really are. How about Risk?

6) Easy answer is Modest Mouse, whose early work blows my mind and whose recent output merely blows. Archers of Loaf, maybe, though that’s more that I’ve never really gotten much out of Eric Bachman’s post-AoL projects.

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Or Diplomacy, if you have lots of time.

(probably not the MOST overrated, but any roll the die and move your little piece up the board-style games have already faced something of a correction)

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed on Modest Mouse.

Something snapped after the whole fall out with Murder City Devils and I think he decided to try and become something different. He did and it isn’t as good.

by Sec 108 on Oct 23, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still really dig Modest Mouse!

There last batch of music that produced …before the ship ever sank and no one’s first and your next contain some of my favorite mouse songs, like: King Rat, Autumn Bed, Little Motel, Spitting Venom and Parting of the Sensory.

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Oct 24, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Th early, heavy stuff was electric.

Modest Mouse live in 1997 was just fucking jaw-dropping. What they became might be something people like a lot, but compared to what they were it’s…well, I don’t want to judge taste here, but it’s so much different than what it seemed like they were destined to become.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 24, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

No doubt they have changed...

and have produced a few commercially aimed songs, but I still find songs like the ones I listed above as raw and beautiful.

Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.

by Rich Langford on Oct 24, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Answers!

1. The more I think about it, my answer kinda is “I used to but I don’t any more”. These days, I listen to pretty much whatever floats across my transom whenever it strikes me, but there is definitely a lot of stuff to be gained with seasonal playlists, because it makes you think about music in a different way. Not just “is this good” but “what matches the clouds and rain” and stuff like that.

2.

3. Iterate.

4. I gotta go with New Zealand because of Flight of the Conchords.

5. Didn’t grow up playing board games, so I don’t really have an opinion – I like the occasional game of Clue but that’s about it for my knowledge of board games.

6. It’s hard for me to answer the first part of that question, because I have a billion CD’s of a billion bands that put out one stellar record or several great singles, never to be heard from again (I still miss you, Valentine Killers! You’re still on my mind, Dharma Bums!). For the “otherwise got mired” part of your question, though, as mainstreamy as it sounds, I gotta go with Elvis Costello. Fortunately, his career has been long enough that it’s sine-waveish; every fallow period is followed by at least a brief spike of goodness. And most of his “fallow” periods are marked by records that others would die to have made; they just don’t stand up to the rest of his stuff in my opinion.

7. Not a video game guy, sorry.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

"5. Didn’t grow up playing board games, so I don’t really have an opinion "

Yup.

we had Candyland ( I liked the pictures of candy, but that was about it) and later, Mouse trap (which only got played with as a construction object)

by msb on Oct 23, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

To this day

I still have no idea how one “plays” Mouse Trap for that very reason. It was really nothing more than an excuse to build a Rube Goldberg contraption.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello!

1) A little, probably less island music, more ponderous jazz. I reads what I reads when I reads it.

2) Working my way through Poe right now, there is some really odd, fascinating stuff in there. “The Balloon-Hoax” and “Gold-bug” stand out.

3) Not so much a word, but a phrasing that has become popular in sports and is spreading. “A Derek Jeter, A Manny Ramirez..” when referring to Derek Jeter or Manny. I hear it all the time now and it makes me feel sad that Carlin is dead.

4) I’ve only ever been to Hawaii and Japan, they are both nice in their own ways.

5) Clue

6) Luniz

7) I really like Bionic Commando in a nostalgic way, but then realized it’s actually not that fun.

by waldo rojas on Oct 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Bionic Commando

was probably one of the few games that frustrated me with its in-game limitations. I can understand the charm of the claw arm and all that crazy shit but there’s really no reason I shouldn’t be able to jump.

Not that there was a reason either for 90% of early video game heroes out to save the universe being completely unable to swim.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always assumed they did.

fuck.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Probably has something to do with Comcast buying out NBC. My hatred for Comcast only continues to grow.

Chad Brown for the Ring of Honor!

by Big Seahawk Loser on Oct 25, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm.

- No but I definitely start watching more seasonal movies when it comes to Halloween and Christmas.

- "Cecil B. DeMented " – It’s about a lunatic young film director and his band of young cultists who kidnap an A-list Hollywood movie star and force her to be in their underground movie. It’s about teen terrorism against the movie business.

- “Keyword” or anything involving a company talking about using social media.

- Hawaiian Islands

- Monopoly

- Creed (hahahaha)

- Anything based of a original NES game.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Same here!

I was actually really, really excited for it, and it never lived up to the movie I thought he was going to make, but that’s my fault.

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

PunchOut! was pretty good for Wii.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A fangraphs commenter!

That question was totally sub-par, and I think you have like minutes to go before Graham bans you. You never add anything, and frankly, I find it insulting that you pretend to care what I’m going to be for Halloween. You’re singlehandedly destroying this website.
I pity you, or hate you. I haven’t decided which just yet.

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's my friend's birthday.

So I’m going to be blind stinking drunk, and possibly attending a burlesque show in which she’ll be breathing fire.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

She will be.

You’d have to come to New York though.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like something I might have done before I got married...

Not that I could have afforded the plane ticket… then again I’d probably still be in SF so I’d be able to find a burlesque show locally…

by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That does add a layer of complication to it.

I figure I could always defend it as “I’m supporting my friend’s art”, by which I could justify nearly anything at this point, but I’ve not yet needed to, nor felt inclined. It’s worth seeing though, for the acts and for the people watching.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

What is the best costume you’ve ever seen?

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen some folks with phenomenal zombie make-up

not that I knew it was make up until I started breaking down the body for disposal.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

My friend went as Small Wonder, the 80s sitcom little girl robot.

(he’s an adult male).

There was a “Wheel of Fortune” (the actual wheel) with random things on it, one of which was ‘surprise!’ If you got surprise, another person, who was hiding in the basement, would run up and scream at you. I simply don’t have the time/patience/coordinating ability to do something like that, and I’m also not persuasive enough to convince a friend to hang out in the basement of a party only to come out at certain times and yell at people.

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

One year someone came as the Burning Bush (minus Moses) ...

I made a set of full-size Jeopardy podiums for a pair of us to stand behind as Jeopardy losers one year

by msb on Oct 23, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't the foggiest.

I haven’t dressed up as anything for ages, and this year I probably will. No idea what to be though.

by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't a clue yet

I need to pick something. My son is going as a skeleton, and my fiancee is going as a witch (Halloween is her favorite holiday). I told her I was going to go as a car salesman and she said that I couldn’t because I was supposed to be something scary. I then told her I was going to be a used car salesm

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

*salesman

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will be down in AZ watching the Fall League on Halloween.

So I will be wearing what I always wear in AZ: shorts, M’s shirt and my camera.

by mark sobba on Oct 23, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trying not to think too much...
  • Oddly, that weather pattern sounds about the same as we’ve had here in the KC Metro area, with a little more of the 40s than the 60s. The only real seasonal change to my music listening is that towards late November I break out the Squirrel Nut Zippers Christmas album once or twice. Reading? That cycle is a on a grander scale. I read the entire lexicography of Jonathan Kellerman in 2 weeks a few years back and have only read three non-textbooks since.
  • Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath (book). Couldn’t say on the film side. Un Chien Andalu is too obvious and pretty unentertaining (except the part with the friars and the dead mule).
  • Post-modern. Okay, I don’t mind the word, I just hate the writing.
  • New Zealand is the one I’m most interested in visiting, so I’ll go with that.
  • Monopoly. Holy fuck, that’s boring. Axis and Allies, on the other hand, awesome (if you have 30 hours to sepnd on it).
  • They Might Be Giants. Lots of phenomenal stuff, and lots of stuff that shouldn’t even be played during the 99th season of Bill Nye the Science Guy.
  • I don’t play enough video games to answer this one. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on the new Blood Bowl, but that wasn’t a series.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Video game reboots?

Not sure if this counts as a reboot, but I thought the Metroid prime series just kicked all kinds of ass at moving the game from 2D to 3D.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 23, 2009 2:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Playing my own game

1. I can’t seem to justify listening to Tom Waits’ “The Black Rider” in any other season. It’s just not the same. Otherwise, I tend to bust out a bit of post-punk/rock stuff every winter, will work Mingus, Coltrane, the Lounge Lizards, and other jazz types into more regular rotation, and as it gets into winter, slip in a bit of classical.
Bonus question: I just bought a bilingual collection of Rilke, hardcover, $50, because I tend to deposit paychecks at the bookstore, or the record store, or the liquor store. He’s definitely Fall. Wallace Stevens might be too.

2. Movie, might be Survive Style 5+. Loosely interweaving goofy plotlines, centering around a man who can’t stop killing his wife (who keeps coming back with terrifying superpowers), a middle class family with awful luck, a young woman in advertising who may or may not be going crazy and is also banging a hypnotist, and Vinnie Jones running around asking people what their function in life is and then killing them.
Clip from stories 1 and 2 (AUDIO IS REALLY NSFW AT END)
Trailer
Book: Maybe Pedro Paramo, though it’s one of the few books I re-read immediately on finishing it. Loved it.

3. Probably “The Other” in an intellectual context, or “postmodernism”, both as a word and a movement and the various theories that got swept up in it.

4. Hawaii, due to lack of additional data. The San Juans might qualify too, and that’s how much I’m reaching.

5. I think I remember Sorry being kind of frustrating at times but otherwise there was no one that I particularly disliked. Monopoly I could handle because I played loose with the rules and something funny would usually happen.

6. Eh… I don’t know. Easy answers come from the period of time when I was just getting into the idea of indie rock, so I’d say Interpol, TV on the Radio (great vocalist, never as interesting as people make them out to be), and maybe The Stills, whom I had some weird fondness for briefly.

7. I would play Fallout 3 if I had a console and a TV at the moment (I don’t want to run it on my laptop), but I had all kinds of reservations about it being loyal to the first two, and the fact that they pulled the plug on Black Isle while they were nearly to an alpha. Resident Evil may qualify for a successful reboot even if the old ones were okay by me, dumb plots and weak controls and all. I also might add Castlevania: Symphony of the Night as another awesome reboot, but the ones immediately after it blew and it’s been off and on since.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

They're cold and rainy

but a completely different level of cold and rainy than the NW.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you liked the San Juans

you may also enjoy: “The Shetlands” “The Orkneys” “The Lofotens” “The Queen Charlottes”

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantastic.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I took nature for granted before I moved here.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's getting close to where Roche Harbor is at now.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sucks.

Next time you are in Roche Harbor, check out the McMillan family mausoleum, it’s behind the cottages in the woods. Holy hell is it creepy and weird.

by waldo rojas on Oct 23, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That place is great

Though definitely creepy. One of the chairs at the table is for a baby that I assume was stillborn, or at least died the day it was born.

by Mikky on Oct 25, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it really?

I haven’t been out there for about 5 years.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was up there this past summer.

They have a row of condos down the east side of the main drag now and along the west end they have a lot of trendy specialty shops and spas, with more construction on the way. The cottages over on the east end of the harbor remain untouched for now though.

I was talking with my dad about it and I think he told me some restaurateur bought the place up intending to make it a high-end destination type place. There were certainly some fancy boats in harbor too.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be something.

I never played it, but I remember really wanting it at the time, and I do get addicted to Civilization IV again once every few months.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may have had some shyness issues with playing with you guys before

But I can guarantee that I am now a vicious and effective virtual killer.

by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'd better be

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit yeah, man

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll laugh too

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

People with Fifa 10 and a PS3 need to get online and play me now!

One caveat: I absolutely suck at it.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suck too!

But I bought it on 360.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I bought the game I decided to unleash City on the Sounders, but I somehow managed to get beat. :(

And I think Freddie scored the only goal. :/

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, YES, NO!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is what I meant.

But what happens if a team you adopt in a lower division moves up?

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is my Stoke conundrum

I root for them openly as long as their getting a result won’t hurt Arsenal.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stoke are a nasty team.

They may appear cute with their long throws and ‘hustle’, but their fans are some of the most violent in the country. Support a nice harmless team like … Norwich?? Delia!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 27, 2009 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I went down 3-0 to Rovers at the Bridge with 10 minutes left to play.

Amazingly I won that game and I don’t think I cheated (does Kalou scoring a hattrick count as a bug exploit?).

I’m playing a season with Chelsea right now, bought Fredy Montero off the Sounders, and his first contribution was to tear Fernando Torres’s ACL. Then he scored the winning goal against Liverpool.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: video game reboots,

The Secret of Monkey Island was recently remade and it still holds up as one of the funniest games of all time. Seriously, everybody needs to get this game so that they will be encouraged to remake other classic Lucasarts adventure games

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was impressed by how good the Monkey Island remake was.

It made me laugh a lot, and I don’t usually laugh at video games (except for Clive Barker presents Clive Barker’s Jericho, by Clive Barker…worst video game ever).

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

When's the last time a good puzzle game was made?

Tetris is probably the most glorious of all puzzle games, but there’s been Tetris Attack/Panel de Pon/Pokemon Puzzle League that was pretty good, Bust A Move is pretty good, I remember Zoop being a big deal… but has anything good come out in this department in the last five years?

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

You got me on Bejeweled

but isn’t Snood just another version of Bust A Move?

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Bust A Move, you shoot colored marbles into a field already filled somewhat with marbles.

If you connect three of the same color, they drop out of the puzzle, sometimes creating a chain reaction where other marbles also drop.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck yes it does

That game was excellent, and it kicked my brain’s ass

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I feel I neglect to mention the old-school Dr. Mario.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

I just picked up Puzzle Quest this weekend, and proceeded to play it for fucking SIX HOURS STRAIGHT. So freaking addictive.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Games that need reboots:

Sierra’s Space Quest and King’s Quest series
Lucasarts’ X-Wing franchise
System Shock

by BrianL on Oct 23, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Super amazing

Definitely better than Wing Commander.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't trust anything with the name Lucas

to reboot anything related to Star Wars in any good way.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thankfully the guy that is in charge of their gaming division seems to have a good head on his shoulders

He approved Monkey Island’s reboot and has said that they can’t ignore the games that made the company popular

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh hells yes.

A reboot of the King’s Quest series would be amazing. I’d also toss in Quest for Glory, and the Lands of Lore series as well.

Oh, and Shining Force.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shining Force, yes.

Solid tactical RPG. Nothing extraordinary as content went, but still good fun. Of course, we never got the third installment proper, but that seems to be a recurring thing. I’m continually frustrated by the knowledge that there are games in plenty of series that I enjoy that will never see the light of day in the U.S.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 26, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kings Quest just got re released on steam didn't it?

I still want to see a iphone port of all the kings/space quest games.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reboot Bubble Bobble.

I dare you.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

You just blew my mind.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well I won the Bantam Prep division of the 1998 Seattle Senior Open Pro Am

so fuck you.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But...

4 PLAYER BUBBLE BOBBLE! HOLY CRAP!

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it looks awesome!

I loved that game so hard as a kid. I still have the whole theme song memorized

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a guitar tab around here for it and play it occasionally.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was probably a King of the Hill tournament, actually.

I never seemed to be able to win one of those, though I was at practically every one.*

  • I did manage to win two of them.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll check it again when I get home

I came across a random box of old bowling stuff and it contained all kinds of cool shit

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patches, sucka.

They don’t even give out patches as bowling awards anymore. It’s pretty lame.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure they do

I got a bunch from last year. Of course, the junior patches were for lousy accomplishments like 140 games and 500 series

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since I'm mentioned I feel obligated to reply
  • My tastes don’t really change with the season, but I’m probably more likely to listen to more depressing music now, like Death Cab for Cutie or Alice in Chains, than I would typically. But most of my music choice come with what I’ve recently discovered more than any conscious change.
  • Really poor at judging these things but I’d have to say Memento was the strangest movie because, well, I think it’s pretty obvious
  • hella
  • The Aleutians
  • Chess. Maybe it’s just that I suck at it though
  • The Strokes have never come to the same level as their first album. Third Eye Blind had an excellent first album and has since sucked. Weezer sucks now. The newer Flight of the Conchords stuff has disappointed me. Faith No More dropped off for me after Angel Dust. Maybe I’m doing this wrong though
  • I’m not old enough to remember good video game franchises that could be remade. And I own a system which would have no remakes for my favorite old games. The new Perfect Dark sucked though.

by Mariner John on Oct 23, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I have a 30 percent off Borders coupon (don't hate on me for the chains; I usually go to EBC)

And I’m going to be on a plane to DC and back this weekend. What should I use it on?

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 23, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Andrew Chaikin's "A Man on the Moon"

“The Name of the Wind” by Patrick Rothfuss.

by BrianL on Oct 23, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear about it all the time

but have thus far resisted it because it sounds gimmicky and most of the people I know who talk about it are pretentious in a hopelessly counterculture way.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Klaw Chat:
I’ve been asked about that trade rumor for three years but never answered while Ricciardi was still GM. The offer was made, though; I was there when the call came in. It was the first time I’d heard of Wright, since I wasn’t with Toronto in 2001 nor had I followed the draft when Wright was in it. JP’s reaction was, “I’m not trading a major league player for some guy in the Sally League.” And that was pretty much that. We had a chance to trade Cruz after that for Rafael Soriano, but JP refused to do it unless Seattle included Clint Nageotte, who, at the time, was a pretty hot prospect. It’s weird; I can’t remember some things that happened last week but I remember those conversations (over seven years ago now) like they just took place.

If only we had gotten Rafael Soriano in 1997!

by Poochie on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

We could have had Wright anyway.

And instead we drafted Michael Garciaparra.

Why do people keep reminding me of that?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since a member of my immediate family probably owns every major board game of the last 10 years

I can tell you that Apples to Apples is a terrible game. I don’t know if it’s overrated but I know that it’s bad.

by OlSalty on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

My complaint with it is there are far too many rounds where none of your cards will either be funny or make sense to play

So you’re just stuck with a massive letdown for everyone involved who was expecting some humor.

Not that it can’t be funny with the right people playing and it’s a decent idea for a game but you’re limited by the subjects on the cards too much.

by OlSalty on Oct 23, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apples to Apples is a great game for in-jokes.

I don’t know exactly how, but the card “wheat” managed to become a card that always seems to win with me.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apples to Apples is great if you have people that get easily frustrated

I refuse to pick the answers that make the most sense, and it is the logical people who can’t think outside the box that start flipping out when I refuse to match “french fries” with “salty.”

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 23, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So fucking wrong.

You just have to play it with the right crowd.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

On a party-game tangent, Catchphrase is awesome.

And I am awesome at Catchphrase. Very awesome. Like teaming with me is an auto-win awesome.

by James F'n X on Oct 26, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Games that need rebooted-Need for Speed

As in, NFS has been terrible since Hot Pursuit 2 and needs rebooted back to when it was good(though I did enjoyed Most Wanted).

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Shift seems to be pretty good

The demo is awesome. Probably the best game at making you feel like you’re behind a wheel at 150 mph. Engine sounds are amazing and the cars drive pretty great also. And the effects from when you crash actually make you want to avoid collisions

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've heard good things about Shift, namely because it seems to be a departure from what the last half dozen NFS games did.

I’m probably going to pick it up some time next week.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 23, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They didn't release an MLB Power Pros for 2009

so I bought the 2008 version on ebay… but the fact that there was no 2009 game made me sad.

That probably doesn’t count as a “reboot” though.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Radical archipelagos:

Can’t decide between New Zealand, New Caledonia and Galapagos.

by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

For you gamers out there

what are the chances this guy gets more than 5% of what he’s asking for this lot?

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/vgm/1425045564.html

by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Many people who play such games do not seem to understand why they do not retain value.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I am going to offer him his choice of $8 or double the GameStop buy price

just to see which one he chooses.

I’m fairly certain double the GameStop buy price will be like $5

by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he may be retarded

Who would buy the whole lot? Oooh, the 2k4 and 2k5 versions of ESPN baseball, as well as the non-ESPN branded 2k6?

Seriously, he’d be lucky to have somebody offer $15 for Halo 2 and demand that he throw the rest in on top of that for use as decorative coasters

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buy a dozen and I'll make it a baker's dozen for FREE!

It’s a bargain at twice the price!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does GameStop have the buy prices listed online?

Someone should figure out what the total value of those games is, but if I’m remembering correctly, they buy NCAA Football ’08 for like $1, and the sports games are all at least two years beyond that so…

by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy these questions!

Music listening habits definitely change. Listening to a lot more Wipers, Dead Moon, Melvins, etc. these days.

Book. It’s a non-fiction account of a child sexual abuse/satanic cult case in Olympia in the 1980s that was based entirely on “recovered memories.” The details of the case are astoundingly bizarre and if you are a skeptic it will make your brain sad. Definitely worth a read.

Movie. Campy Thai western. Absolutely gorgeous colors, beautifully shot, great action sequences, weirder than shit. I love it.

Nosh

Aleutians

I like Monopoly is some contexts but it is definitely way overrated.

The Blue Album was one of the best debuts of the 1990s, Pinkerton is the best power-pop album ever realeased, and everything since then has been an embarrassment. Weezer makes me sad.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Monopoly seems to be a consensus-overrated choice

but it’s actually a pretty good game if you have the right people playing it who have an interest in making the game play quickly and like to make trades. In a game like that, Monopoly can be a bit of a frenzy, and actually fun.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

See, I used to play it several times a week with friends

And we’d make games stretch on for hours sometimes, enjoying it all the way. Cook up a few rule changes and openly make trades and alliances early on, and the game is a blast

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rail Baron is the best board game ever.

Axis and Allies is damn good too as was Broadsides and Boarding Parties.

by Sec 108 on Oct 23, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

MORE!

Reboot: Leisure Suit Larry. I have no idea what this would be, though I’m told parts of GTA got close. Maybe an Arkanoid reboot? The blocks are a form of Terrorism, and you need to destroy them to save freedom?

Archipelagoooooo onnnnn: I wonder what some of the weirder places named after small british islands are like. I’ve not been to the Orkneys, but I’ve REALLY not been to the South Orkneys. I HAVE been to the Sandwich Islands, but not the South Sandwich Islands. How does France own New Caledonia? That seems odd. New Hebrides, or fuck it, New Britain. Basically, I want to conduct a lot more archipelago research.

And since I haven’t seen the campy Thai western, the weirdest movie I have seen is clearly ‘Funky Forest.’

by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, I mean a reboot done right

via Wikipedia: “although, unlike Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude, this game does not contain nudity and sexual content…”

I’m not a video game buyer anyway, but a PG rated LSL makes as much sense to me as a no-kill Call of Duty.
“Game stats: 23 Wehrmacht tickled, 12 SS bested in Arm Wrestling; your limerick was defeated by the luftwaffe captain.”

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

MechWarrior Reboot

Announced in July for the 360 and PC

They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!

by muffinpryde on Oct 23, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

That takes me back.

I used to play MechWarrior 2 for days. The expansion pack too, and the Mercenaries thing that was roughly of the same generation. I don’t know what the appeal was exactly. Could just be making really weird robots and seeing if I could still fight competently with them. Then 3 came out, and they had changed publishers, removed my favorite mech, and the specs were too high for my machine anyway. Even when I bought a better system, I couldn’t get back into it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Farming Game is a good board game, kind of a Monopoly type thing.

A decent follow up to N64 GoldenEye would have been nice, the controls were simple and intuitive. Everything I’ve played after was a huge disappointment.

by Kermit. on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Lawrence of Arabia

Best theatrical soundtrack of time or best theatrical soundtrack of all time?

On a side note, youtube is the only possible place where you can see both a vitriolic discussion on race politics and a discussion of the main character’s true sexuality on the same music video. I am aware this is harped on a lot, but someone needs to take the system of youtube commenting as a whole behind a shed and put it down.

by redwolf75 on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Lawrence is one of the most amazing movies ever made, and the score it glorious.

However, while I am not generally a fan of crediting lasting greatness to contemporary works, I cannot imagine a better score to any film than Johnny Greenwoods’ work on There Will Be Blood. It is completely and totally revolutionary. It was absolutely masterful in its ability to make abstract music not only palatable but understandable by wide audiences. Just completely amazing work.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 24, 2009 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed the soundtrack in Blood was brilliant...

very Kubrician!

The songs are much more mainstream, but I love the way Richard Kelley uses music in his movies.

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Oct 24, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

The use of music in film is so very much about feel, and timing, and a sense of drama/irony/humor/tragedy/etc.

I mean for God’s sake, look at the music in Scorcese’s films; girl groups and bubblegum pop mostly, but the music is always so pitch-perfect he even managed to make Dropkick Murphys not terrible, which is a feat in and of itself.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 24, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point! about Marty

I just read a quote from Kubric he was explaining how he had done the pre production version of 2001 using a soundtrack very similar to the one we all heard and he had a someone scoring the film for him with original music when he had the realization

“However good our best film composers may be, they are not a Beethoven, a Mozart or a Brahms. Why use music which is less good when there is such a multitude of great orchestral music available from the past and from our own time? When you are editing a film, it’s very helpful to be able to try out different pieces of music to see how they work with the scene…Well, with a little more care and thought, these temporary tracks can become the final score”

Seems like a no brainer now, but it was a breakthrough then.

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Oct 24, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stanley Kubrick was a different quantity than what you might expect were you to perform a mathematical function involving his various abilities

and I will leave it at that, with the only statement of judgment being that I have a tremendous amount of respect for the man and his innovations.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 24, 2009 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well christ blue...

that could go either way. Was the quantity greater or less than the function?

I will say he made Peter Sellers shine and Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman do something with real meaning. A lot of people knock Eyes Wide Shut, but I think it is one of the more honest relationship movies I have seen.

Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.

by Rich Langford on Oct 24, 2009 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just re-watched Big night

which has a fine mix of “contemporary” American and Italian pop music and Gary DeMichele’s score

by msb on Oct 24, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Greenwoods' Blood was amazing

I still listen to it all the time, and for some reason it has become my go-to music when playing games such as Call of Duty and the like.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's funn you'd mention 'There will be blood,"

as I’d put that down for “strangest movie I have ever seen.” In a good way, of course,

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The summer is filled with more Sublime, Bob Marley, Weezer, Beastie Boys and as the fall slides into winter it is much more Muse, The Doors, Tool, Mars Volta and classical.

With strangest movie I am going with Eraserhead. It was totally worth it. David Lynch leaves me with the cool introspective kind of haunted feeling.

Strangest book is tough. Nothing really comes to mind. I guess I have to go with The Glass Bead Game. I am not sure strange is the right word for it, probably more visionary, but the end of that book has never left my psyche.

Has anyone ever read Illuminatus?

I am not sure strange is the right word for that either, probably more imaginative.

Disappointing musician is far and away hands down Chris Cornell. Dude what happened? Talk about someone losing their edge. The Rage Against the Machine band couldn’t even save him from his trip to vaginaville.

Honorable Mention: Gwen Stefani, The Tea Party, Zack De La Rocha, Axl Rose, Dr. Dre, and I know a bunch more will come to me.

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Oct 24, 2009 2:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Biggest music disappointment

For me this year has got to be Rammstein. They took a turn for the tacky with the newest album, and I went from being a huge fan to being almost embarrassed to admit I ever liked them. The whole ‘sex-as-shock’ schtick wore thin for me a LONG time ago, and they have figured out a way to make it worse. Schlechte Form, Herren.

As for Fall listening, I seemed to have gone back to anything by Underworld and Ohgr’s Welt album for some reason. Not sure why, as I normally associate that stuff with summer, but it seems to be what’s in my car lately.

I would also be happy if I never had to hear the phrase “reality star” ever, ever again. You’re famous for not using birth control, or marrying someone, or lying. You didn’t actually DO anything to gain your notoriety, you’re just an insecure douchebag who needs the rest of the world to know your problems. Enough, already.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I figured out others

I have been fascinated with the Maldives since I became obsessed with Google Earth a few months ago. I spent some of my unemployment days early this year taking virtual “vacations”, and found the Maldives by accident; I had never heard of them before that.

I can’t pick just one weird movie. My husband and I are huge fans of anything weird, and my list is LONG. :/

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah yes.

I remember you bringing up movies that I had never heard of with some frequency.

Do try to come up with an incomplete list if you can.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

That is a challenge, honestly. We usually choose them by title, or the brief description that Netflix affords us. Let me give it a whirl….

Island of Death
The Room
Big Man Japan
Blades (yes, plural; NOT the vampire movie)
Anything from Five Minutes to Live.com (seriously, their Lost & Found collections are amazing)
Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus
Can’t Stop the Music (mad props to Steve Gutenberg!)
The Day the Earth Stopped (C Thomas Howell can go straight to Hell)
Rock n Roll Nightmare
Rock n Roll Nightmare II: The Intercessor (really, they should be watched in order. God help you)

There are shitloads more, but these are the ones I can come up with off the top of my head. I cannot recommend them enough.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

Since nobody warned me, I will NOT allow others to go before me unheeded – there is a goat-fucking scene in Island of Death. Just so there’s no ‘two-girls-one-cup’-esque shock for anyone…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trouble Everyday. My sister gave me a similar warning, but at the time that increased the desire to see the film.

Ugh. Horrible, long lasting trauma. Perhaps there is a cerebral explanation and reason for the that movie to exist. I’m not sure if I’d care to hear it, maybe. That movie had some issues.

by Kermit. on Oct 24, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Netflix is going to think there is something terribly wrong with us

Then again ,we own some of these. Above all else, I recommend The Room. It is the right mix of horrible and what-the-fuck, and it’s freaking brilliantly bad.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it worth the cost to upgrade?

I really have no beefs with Vista other than the amount of RAM it needs to run, since I don’t do much on the computer other than surf the web and watch baseball.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hurray!

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 24, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah know what sucks?

When you are installing a new OS like Windows 7,but before you do you make sure you’ve got everything backed up. You double check and you triple check. And you are pretty sure you’ve got it. So you wipe your drive and install the OS only to find THAT YOU FUCKING FORGOT TO BACKUP YOUR FUCKING BOOKMARKS!

FUCK!

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 26, 2009 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look who they were playing

you, me, and marc w would look incredible against Blackburn.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blackburn sucked, but I was still mightily impressed by the way Chelsea played.

Every time I watch, Drogba is in his own world, where mortals just can’t tough him. I’ve decided to root for Liverpool, but Chelsea blows my fucking mind.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've decided to root for Liverpool?

Why do you hate yourself?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, I'm going to lay this out so I have a reference:

Here’s the deal: I’m new to British soccer. I have no allegiance. I’m looking for a team to root for. Here’s how it went:

1. Chelsea is amazing, but they’re too good. It’s too easy to jump on that train as a newcomer.
2. I don’t want to root for a team that could be relegated.
3. I’ve never so much as stepped a foot in Europe, so I have no allegiance to anything.
4. I wanted to pick a team that was fun to watch and that would be on TV regularly so I could watch.
5. TORRES gives me a boner.
6. Gerrard!
7. They’re on FSC or ESPN almost every weekend.
8. They’re fun to play with in video games.
9. My only friend at work who likes soccer is an Irish guy who is a huge Liverpool supporter, so I have someone to talk soccer with.
10. They’re in a stretch of misery that makes me feel a little better — makes me feel like I’m not jumping on a bandwagon when everything is going well. I’ve established over my lifetime that I enjoy rooting for fuck-ups. This just feels right.

So that’s pretty much it. I’m not a die-hard, and I have yet to tattoo “You’ll Never Walk Alone” onto my chest, but they’re the team I’m leaning toward. I reserve the right to fall in love with another team, and I just well might. But until then, Go Reds!

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I have against Liverpool

is that they stole the FA Cup from Arsenal the only year I actually got to see an FA Cup Final in person. Michael Goddamn Owen can go blow a goat as far as I’m concerned – even though he’s not Liverpool any more. Still. You could do worse than be a Liverpool supporter. But if I ever hear You’ll Never Walk Alone again in person I will cut a bitch.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does seem a little bit weird. Not a very intimidating song. But then maybe that's why I find it great. It's so unexpected.

Teams that I will consider rooting for should my heart turn away from Liverpool:

Chelsea
Arsenal
Man City (Adebayor . . . some boner as Torres)
Stoke City.

So that’s pretty much my list.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go with Stoke

Adebayor can suck the same goat as Owen. Sloppy goat seconds.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's not too far off

one of my best friends grew up in Stoke which is the only reason I follow them at all, and that’s a pretty apt description. I’m amazed they’re not relegation fodder. And they beat Spurs today so that’s awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't even notice that

I was too busy absorbing the fact that the announcers for Chelsea-Blackburn thought that we could have won 10-0 if we were trying to

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is actually true

from the 15 minutes I saw at least. I don’t know how they didn’t score more.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw two good saves

is he still England’s #1 at this point?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should plan on taking next June/July off and go to SA

you could probably do as well as any of the England keepers.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outfield is much more fun

It’s impossible to make someone look retarded as a goalkeeper

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it's much easier to flatten people and get away with it as keeper.

But yeah, I love the free-flowing beauty of the game and I don’t really feel it from in the net… Too much standing around.

by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

One goal still haunts me...

A decently hit shot that was headed about 2 feet in from near post so I set up in a crouch to receive it. My defender deflected it slightly about 5 yards out and it just rolled right into the near post past me and for some reason I was just frozen.

by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can end being the hero or scapegoat very easily.

Have vivid memories of both as someone who played a lot of rec league keeper back in the day.

And on a side note, I’d think the Sounders popular success is at least partly due to our strong rec soccer leagues in the Pac NW, where almost all kids play at an early age.

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

10-0 would not have surprised me.

That was just, for at least one day, an incredible mismatch.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tonights game postponed until tomorrow

so says Joel Sherman.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 24, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Not surprised.

I’ve heard intermittent thunder for about half an hour now.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 24, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this post.
Tomorrow will be 3 wks since reg season ended, and Yanks have played 8 games since then #fixthepostseasonsked

by Kermit. on Oct 24, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

touché

I wouldn’t be disappointed if he’s off the team next year. Add to that Sturgis and Vagenas.

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's actually got more actual ball skills than I would've thought, but it doesn't matter

when you’re that slow. I mean, it’s not like the league features the world’s fastest players, but he’s a guy whose value is just crushed because he’s just two step slower than anyone.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see Zakuani at striker replacing Jaqua for next season.

Improves both positions, as Zakuani seems to be a liability in defense.

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of which, can someone who's gone to a game tell me about GA seating?

I’m thinking of getting GA season tickets for me and my wife next season, but how are they?

by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck dude

When you’re on a fast break you absolutely do not play crossfield aerial passes

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The MLSnet.com feed is crashing every four minutes.

If I had paid more than pocket change for this service, I’d be furious. What a piece of shit.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

FREDY!!!!!!!!!!

I WOULD DO AWFUL AND AMAZING THINGS TO YOU.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

It really is fantastic.

The idea of “360 degree dribbling” seems like a stupid marketing ploy, but it it really is amazing. You can feel it. Passing and moving feel so much better than they have in previous soccer games.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crosses are really difficult in the new version though

In FIFA 09 I could score pretty regularly off crosses and corners. This one I only score on those by accident.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

I couldn’t do SHIT with crosses in FIFA 09, and I’m having much better luck in the new game.

In FIFA 09, I couldn’t get a cross or a corner to land withing 20 yards of where I wanted it do. And if I managed to do so, it was right at a defender’s head.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, but the resounding answer is Fifa?

I always owned FIFA but my last soccer game was Winning Eleven 9 and it was better than any FIFAs I ever played.

by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to only buy a soccer game every two or three years, so I'm no expert . . .

but FIFA has caught and surpassed PES in the past three years. EA simply has the better game. Here or some links to reviews:

Pro Evolution Soccer

FIFA 10

I played PES for a while and it’s not awful, but FIFA is just better.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, cool, thanks for the info.

I know it’s been a back-and-forth thing but I wasn’t sure who was leading at this point.
I love lots of games, but sports games draw me in a ton… especially soccer and baseball.

by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

PES was always considered to be the better game when I was growing up.

But EA seems to have turned it on in the past five years. Even the PES loyalists seem to have switched over. EA done good.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, after reading your guys' opinions and looking elsewhere, it looks like FIFA wins out.

I hope Konami steps it up next year, this healthy competition is good for the genre.

by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about their basketball games but FIFA, NCAA football, Madden and NHL(from what I hear) have been off the charts.

I know its easy to hate on EA for their complacency and exclusive agreements but when they have a year like this you really have to give them credit.

by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I was never on the “EA is Satan” bandwagon that it seemed everyone on the Internet enjoyed, but I was always skeptical of the intentions of a company that bought out competition. To see EA succeed as they have in the past two years has been incredible.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, Pro Evo was the King up until PE 4. Since there Fifa has matched and surpassed it.

That said, both games are good. It’s not like you would buy PE and be devastated, they both have their benefits and flaws.

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Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been looking for a pro/con list of both but I can't find it...

But I think if FIFA is getting that much better reviews across the board, I’m probably more likely to enjoy it. MLS is a nice bonus, as well.

by lailaihei on Oct 25, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

They used to go straight

Now they swerve like they would in real life

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the swerving, I guess.

Every corner I ever took in FIFA 09 was just a line drive to the defender’s head. I couldn’t get a shot off.

by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anybody played it on the PC?

I’ve heard mixed things about the PC version and don’t have a 360.

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might be a bit early for this topic,

but what do people think of Ljungberg pulling a Beckham and playing 2 months in the EPL during the offseason?

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

He's gonna do that?

With who?

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not going to happen.

Wenger doesn’t take players back once they leave. there are rumors that Vieira might come back, but even that would surprise me – Freddie doesn’t have the pace or the technique to play at Arsenal any more.

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'd be the first team

to play a 2-6-2 and only score 41 goals a season.

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pay no attention

to an article that starts “reports have suggested”. What that means is that Sky Sports were having a slow day and decided to invent a “report” “suggesting” that this could happen.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, but it was acknowledged he was in London.

Combined with Ljungberg and his agent’s coyness, and it’s not a complete longshot.

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what would score more goals

Eight crunching tackle-long ball-no skill defenders with Sutton and Shearer in their primes, or Arsenal with their beautiful flowing football.

Actually I don’t really wonder.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

1994-95

Shearer 34
Sutton 15

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I never gave a goddamn about Newcastle

I always loved watching Shearer play.

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to don my cranky old man persona and mention

that Newcastle’s striker just before Shearer (when Shearer was winning the league with Blackburn) was a bat-shit insane Colombian called Faustino Asprilla.
He was something of a minor star/headeache the first year I started watching the EPL. I miss him, and I wouldn’t bat an eye if he died after snorting some bad coke off a model’s ass. Or a goat’s.
Shearer was a legend, but he was so boring.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It always used to piss me off when home fans would boo Shearer.

He is an absolute legend, and I like him even more for turning Fergie down and not joining United.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beckham missed like 1/3rd of the MLS season that way

I also can’t see a side that Freddie would want to join that would actually accept a guy in a squad for two months. Milan did it, but Milan are crazy sons of bitches.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus as much as I hate to admit it

Freddie isn’t the player DB is at this point.

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he could go to Portsmouth or Hull and do a job

but he probably wouldn’t end up at a top-six side anyhere in Europe.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'd be pretty redundant above low-Championship level sides

But how about reversing the idea and have players come over during European offseasons? I’ll take Michael Essien for a few months, thanks.

Stupid World Cup ruins this little plan…

by Graham MacAree on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome but for the world cup

but that doesn’t stop it happening in 2011.

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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is secondhand, but someone who attended the game passed along

that Joe Roth told the crowd postmatch the whole stadium was being opened up for the playoffs. I’m guessing he misinterpreted Roth, as other sources have said merely 3K seats in the upper bowl. If what he said is correct, however, that will be pretty cool. Hope they can sell 60,000 +

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

The highlights

are now up for the Sounders match

Make sure to check out 4:28. Christ, Montero, can you be even more blatant?

by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Home from the game, editing some pictures, popped a bottle of champagne.

I love you Sounders, I do.

Oh Harris, you can’t just mock the fans like that and think karma won’t kick your ass.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 1:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Alright, so I need some recommendations from you good people.

I’m looking at buying a 16 gig mp3 player, whose two main purposes will be to be hooked up in my car, and plugged into the stereo at work. Now the stereo at work has an aux hookup, so that’s not a problem. However my car doesn’t have an aux hookup or a tape deck, so from what I can tell the only way to get it to play is to buy an FM transmitter.

So, does anybody have any good recommendations for mp3 players and/or have any experiences with these FM transmitters?

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 25, 2009 1:13 AM PDT reply actions  

If you get an FM transmitter, be prepared to either spend a lot of money for a good one.

As in enough money that you might as well upgrade you stereo. You can get decks with aux inputs for well under $200 now and good FM transmitters are going to run you $75 and up.

Anything other than the highest tier is going to be almost unusable most of the time. The one I have cost $50 and only (kind of) works if I am more than 50 miles from any sort of moderately-populated area and crank the volume all the way, which is problematic because occasionally it will come in as clear as a bell out of nowhere and blast me into tinnitus-land. It is basically the world’s most expensive iPhone car charger at this point. You’ll have less of a problem being outside of the city, but I could barely get reception on I-90 the whole way from Seattle to Missoula this summer.

I’d honestly look at something like this. Or if you don’t want to/can’t do the install yourself, spend $150 at Best Buy or something and get free installation.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 25, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bought a cheap little $15 FM transmitter that actually works pretty well

Although that’s not the typical result most people get from them for sure. You basically have to get lucky because most of them only allow you to broadcast on 4 different stations (like 89.1, 89.3, 89.5, 89.7) and if all of those stations are already in use in the area you’re in, you’re SOL.

If you do manage to find a station that’s completely not in use and not getting interference from other channels which are in use close to it, the cheap ones can actually work really well, but it’s pretty much a crapshoot whether they’ll work or not.

by OlSalty on Oct 25, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bought a $60 one and it sucked, I feed mine through the tape deck now.

I’d buy a cheap deck if I was otherwised forced to use an FM transmitter.

As for MP3 players… I just use my iPhone now, but before I used a Creative Zen Vision M 30GB and it was great. The best thing to look for in car-use MP3 players is probably easiness of choosing songs/albums/playlists from the corner of your eye.

by lailaihei on Oct 25, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a $30 transmitter and I have never had that problem

(I also live in a city where there isn’t a station on every other channel so that helps)

I’d recommend feeding it through the tape deck because the sound is vastly superior

by Poochie on Oct 25, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I faced the same problem last year and went a different route.

I replaced the shitty factory deck in my car with an iPod capable one (charges and allows you to control the iPod from the dash player). It ran me just under 100 (I got a good deal) and did the install myself. Well worth it.

by abender20 on Oct 26, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I did.

I got my Kenwood deck on Best Buy online for 80 bucks.

As for a mp3 player check craigslist. Its flooded with ipod/zunes – I recommend get a 16GB nano though – great battery life.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone played Borderlands yet?

I’m intrigued, but I’m already planning on buying Modern Warfare 2 and maybe Dragon Age….and then Diablo 3 isn’t that far away….

by OlSalty on Oct 25, 2009 2:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Borderlands is what you get when you cross WoW with a first-person shooter.

It’s worth the 60 bucks in every way. Ridiculously fun.

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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 25, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't be so sure about Diablo 3.

Blizzard is infamous for continual postponements.

by redwolf75 on Oct 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

For sure

I’ve been waiting for Starcraft 2 for years already and now it’s not looking like that’ll be out until 2011. But they seem pretty deadset on getting D3 out before the new year.

by OlSalty on Oct 25, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully.

I’ve been playing D2 recently, and it has actually aged very well. D3 is definitely at the top of my list.

by redwolf75 on Oct 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

2011?

Last I heard, the first installment of Starcraft 2 was supposed to be First Quarter 2010. I was hoping for this holiday season initially, but what are you going to do?

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by JY on Oct 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could be wrong but I heard they pushed it back again

Which would make sense because they don’t want two of their own games competing with one another.

by OlSalty on Oct 25, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see how that would be a problem.

SC2 was announced first, by over a year, and is further along as far as anyone knows. By delaying that, it would probably just delay D3. Besides, they haven’t released anything that isn’t WOW since 2003.

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by JY on Oct 25, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, more beer talk.

So I am obviously on a winter ale kick. Last year I was all over the malty stuff; Alaskan, Winter Solstice (which is still my favorite,) Jubelale, Old Jubilation, that sort of thing.

While I’m still digging those, I’m finding myself veering more towards the hoppier stuff this year; Celebration is great as always, and I am rediscovering my love for Winter Fish. The only thing is that this style of Winter is a bit harder to come by.

Anyone have any recommendations for this kind of style? They’re definitely IPAs at heart, but they’re spicier, maltier, with a bit more complex and warming quality.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 25, 2009 2:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe not what you're looking for...

But Trader Joe’s has Mission St. IPA at ~$6 for a six-pack. I didn’t think it was too bad, kind of lighter than what I’m used to from an IPA, not as much aftertaste. Good beer, the price might be influencing my opinion.

by Kermit. on Oct 25, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

For that hoppy style, I'm not sure I've had better than Winter Fish.

But I think the one to try is Rogue’s ’Santa’s Private Reserve’ – it’s based on a red ale, so it’s much hoppier than most. I just think Winter Fish’s spruce/pine kick gives it a slight leg up. It’s also much hoppier even than the Rogue.
Had a casked winter fish the other day… I wouldn’t have it every night, like I would w/Alaskan, but it’s a treat.

Oh, and out of curiousity, did you find Winter Solstice to be a bit… down this year? It’s still damn good, but I think Alaskan is slightly better this year, whereas last year (the past few years really), I’d have given the edge to Winter Solstice.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

It’s still clearly ahead of Jubelale, which is more a consistent B, B+ beer, whereas Solstice varies between A+ and A/A-. Alaskan seems better this year, I don’t know.
In any event, choosing between Alaskan and Winter Solstice is a damn fine position to be in.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty dead-on with respect to Jubelale.

I but it when it’s on sale, which is often, but I will pay $12 for a six-pack of Winter Solstice. I will say that I almost certainly will not be buying the AV as much this year as I did last year, as the difference in quality between it and Alaskan is not enough to justify the premium to the same extent.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK FULHAM, FUCK WEST LONDON, FUCK FOOTBALL, FUCK THE WORLD.

I HATE YOU ALL.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

THAT WAS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT RIGHT THERE

it’s games like that that make me predict a 6th place finish for Arsenal this year. Gotta finish off the games you’re leading, especially against teams that HAVEN’T WON SINCE OPENING GODDAMN DAY

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by pdb on Oct 25, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's actually kind of OK in that system.

He’s not, you know, actually GOOD, but Hodgson gets a lot out of his players.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHUT UP.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, for some reason there are zero football related statuses on my facebook right now...

Which considering I am part of the Manchester network and both football teams played today is a little unusual. ;)

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's popular enough but all the travelling involved would probably be an issue

It’s one thing for a couple teams to do it once or twice a year but I’m not sure how well it would work when teams are asked to do it regularly.

by OlSalty on Oct 25, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Realignment would help with that

Miami to the AFC South, JAX to London/AFC East. Give every team a two byes a year, expand the regular to 18 games and kill two preseason games. Sure it might hurt the West coast teams a little bit more but its not like they play like gangbusters on the East Coast as it is and non divisional teams would only have to make the trip every ~8 years.

by Robert on Oct 25, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

NY/BOS/PHI-LHR is a ~5 hour flight

It’s no worse than NY/SEA or SEA/MIA. As long as West coast teams aren’t asked to do it regularly it should be fine.

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by pdb on Oct 25, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a strain

but it’s certainly more likely than having a MLB team overseas.

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by JY on Oct 25, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would have to become more interested in NFL is that happened.

I’m not convinced the game is popular enough yet to sell out Wembley for an entire season with regular NFL ticket pricing, but it is certainly gaining in popularity every year.

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Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So to echo what Robert said a while ago

Freddie Ljungberg arguing with game officials scares the living shit out of me.

Again, I’m still trying to figure this whole game out, but did Leo Gonzalez have as good a game as I thought he did? Am I wrong for feeling that Nate Jaqua might be the most frustrating player on this squad?

by BrianL on Oct 25, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Leo really needed to close down Harris on Dallas' goal, but he's a solid player.

As for Jaqua, it depends on what you mean by frustrating. I was frustrated by Brad Evans complete inability to do anything right for about two months there, and he lost his starting job because of it. And then he shows flashes of real ability, like he did last night. He’s still not a great midfielder, but my criticism shall go on hiatus for a while after that goal.

by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

So when I bought Sounders playoff tickets, there were multiple options in the upper bowl.

Perhaps they are going to open more than the 3,000 seats they initially announced.

by redwolf75 on Oct 25, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

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Milwaukee, meanwhile, traded Mo Williams to Cleveland and Desmond Mason to Oklahoma City a year ago as part of a three-team deal for the purpose of dumping salary, and traded Richard Jefferson to San Antonio for another $5 million in cap relief. It also let Charlie Villanueva and Ramon Sessions walk as free agents this past summer. It will remain buried in the standings, but not quite as deep in debt.

An NBA team hasn’t moved since Vancouver headed to Memphis in ’01, but the market is ripe for another shift. Memphis and Sacramento, which ranked last in attendance last season, seem the prime candidates, but almost anything is possible in the current state of despair.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 25, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

What play gave Pittsburgh the game?

by Mariner John on Oct 25, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantom trip that erased a TD pass would have put Favre ahead

Pittsburgh forced a fumble on the next play and ran the ball back for a TD

by Poochie on Oct 25, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

ALL OF THEM BECAUSE FUCK THE GOD DAMN STEELERS

FUCK THEM SO MUCH AND SO HARD THAT BEN ROTHLISBERGER GETS IN A GAY CRASH THAT LETS HIM DIE.

by Kirk on Oct 26, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

My fall listening just took a sharp turn...

I listen to more jazzy and low stuff anyway around this time of year, but I discovered today that Morphine released a new double album of unreleased tracks, variations, and live recordings.

I can’t believe it’s been ten years since Sandman died.

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by JY on Oct 25, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Another addendum

A word I could do without hearing: “interesting”.

I doubt any class I’ve been at at the college level, or even the high school level, has gone five minutes of voicing an opinion without using it. It basically means nothing at this point.

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by JY on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guilty of overusing that word

And I hate myself for it.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 26, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is that album?

I found that their first B-sides album was almost unlistenable.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The new stuff is mostly better than that.

(title line included because I tend to ramble and some would rather minimize that)

But you also have to deal with the fact that over half the album is alternate takes and live sets, which is met with some success. On top of that, some of the “new songs” are just rehashes of the old ones, “Call Back” is just “Wishing Well” with different accompaniment, “I’d Catch You” is “Like a Mirror”, drawn out a little more, “Shade” and “Shadow” ( I Know You Part IV and V ) are nearly clones of each other and don’t add much that III didn’t already. They’re versions, not new material. “Lilah II” worked better as a one minute instrumental.

The live versions… I don’t know, I’m not the type to buy live albums in the first place. Sandman seems to forget the lyrics to his own songs at times, repeating things out of order that seem like they might have been right, omitting verses in favor of repeating another. The alternate takes aren’t particularly revealing either. “Buena” adds a piano, which feels natural, and some echoing synth stuff, which does not. “Empty Box” becomes funereal. “Free Love” becomes something more drunken and sinister than it even was previously, but the emphasis shifts from the singing, which is remarkably restrained, to the instruments. “Super Sex” becomes a percussion-driven piece that lacks the foreign delirium of the original. There’s another version of “The Night” too, which is borderline sacrilege to me, but this one somehow maintains the mood of the former. It’s played against a faint synth echo, that sounds like it could have been written in the 80s. The drum part and sax are identical, but the bass and piano have been replaced by the synth. It’s not as horrible as I would have wanted it to be, it’s still haunting, but the particular synth makes it too easy, whereas the full orchestration pulled something special off that felt like a constant descent. “Take Me With You” becomes a bare bones experiment, no drums, hardly any bass, just strings, sax, and frequently unaccompanied vocals.

There are some worthy additions to the Morphine canon in the earlier “unreleased” songs. “Come Over” has all the exuberance of anything on “Yes”, “It’s Not Like That Anymore” sounds like it could have hit fit somewhere between that and “Like Swimming”, with some eastern sounding sax play and whispered, ironic lyrics. “Patience” is an outlier guitar piece. “Bye Bye Johnny” has a folk vibe to to it, but a lot quicker tempo. “Moons of Jupiter” is a fun piece with heavy distortion, but seems to be lacking something that would have put it over the top, though the lyrics are entertaining. The rest are decent, but not really remarkable as Morphine songs go.

So, you’d be plunking down twenty-six bones (or sixteen, in MP3 form) for something that doesn’t quite do what it aims to and, of thirty-six tracks, about a third of which are “new” , and most of those are decent. But it misrepresents itself as being more than it is (the versions, as I said), and the live takes aren’t all that good. I don’t regret buying it on principle, but they’re trying to milk it and it’s probably worth about $14 in CD form, even as a double, and I could see about $10 being reasonable in mP3.

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by JY on Oct 26, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn good review.

I’ve been finding myself going back to the album “Yes” more now than I ever had before. I used to outright hate that album, but it’s grown on me in the past few months for some reason.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Yes" is solid work, I think.

I think “Good” and “Yes” might be one and two for me, as albums, as coherent ideas. There are tracks on “Cure For Pain” (“Thursday”, “Buena”, “Mary Won’t You Call My Name?”) and “The Night” (“The Night”, “So Many Ways”, “Souvenir”, “Take Me With You”) that I hold up as being among their most brilliant, but other parts don’t sit nearly as well with me. “Like Swimming” is the same with lower peaks and deeper valleys.

The stuff on this particular album has a vibe close to “Yes” and “Like Swimming”, it’s mostly upbeat but sometimes descends into more minimal soundscapes without fully getting into the worldly, deeper orchestrations that were never fully realized at the end.

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by JY on Oct 26, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

Steve Phillips was fired!

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes but then I don't think he should have gotten fired for having an affair

ESPN is a sports network, not a how-not-to-cheat-on-your-wife network. If his affair affected his on-air performance, or if the affair affected her job performance (which we’ll never know), then maybe firing was warranted, but otherwise it’s just overreaction.

And her physical appearance has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's because of the tabloidness of 'news'

Once this came out they more or less had to throw him to the wolves.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thinking back ...

at the time I remember reading a quote from a woman who dealt with these sorts of legal issues; after opining that Reynolds was being unfairly shipped out, she then speculated that ESPN was (belatedly) getting some sensitivity on the issue, and that she wouldn’t be surprised to see harrassment issues being written into contracts as a firing offense…

by msb on Oct 26, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

The bar for what constitutes “news” has dropped rather alarmingly in the last 10 years or so.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's really interesting to me how much news is media-generated

I had left the tv on after the Sounders game on Saturday and it was talking about those sneaky companies taking advantage of swine flu fears, which is amazing in its level of meta-newsness.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 26, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're a "victim" of their own everpresentness

24-hour news channels sounded great in theory, 15 years ago – why should I wait for the 5pm news to see what happened today? Why should I wait for tomorrow’s paper to see what happened last night? – but what they decided not to care about was the race to the bottom that would create.

If you go from having to create 30 min of news content a day to having to create 24 hours’ worth, of course there’s going to be meta-ness all over it – they gotta fill up those air hours somehow. What I detest is the mass acceptance of stories like that as “news”. Or the way that “BREAKING NEWS” now means not so much news as “hey this trivial thing is what we’re going to be talking about for the next 20 mins”.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love ham too.

Glazed and roasted, with a little pineapple…. mmmmm

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by Faux on Oct 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

;P

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by Faux on Oct 26, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is that, an infinity Grill?

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by Faux on Oct 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That cat is adorable.

My cat would freak out if that happened to him.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

snerk.

it’s the “huh.” expression at the end.

by msb on Oct 26, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kitty!

That was perfectly orchestrated too. Damn.

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by JY on Oct 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wind sucks

I was assaulted by airborne leaves all the way in to work this morning. those fuckers hurt when they hit your face at full speed.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either spend the money to get a good one or don't get one at all.

There is no middle ground.

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by JY on Oct 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember mlb.com sending out a "Congratlations Phillies" email.

Yet I get “Celebrate the Yanks 40th AL Pennant”. I want to reply to it and tell it to fuck off.

by royalcurve on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

But it's a milestone!!!!

YANKEES NEWS IS VERY IMPORTANT

I’m just glad they stopped doing postseason updates on other team’s RSS (not RRS) feeds. No, I didn’t need to see that the RS won on my Ms AND general MLB feeds, thanks.

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by Faux on Oct 26, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

New beer!

Well, new to me, anyway. Went here Saturday night, and spent a lot of the night drinking this. Can’t say that I’ve ever had a Bayern beer before, it was really quite good and now I want to try more of them. Anybody else had any Bayern beers before?

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

No, though I see them in the store often. I'll have to pick up a few.

I’d like to compare their schwarzbier to the Port Brewing offerings, or to Session Dark.
And I’m always looking for a good oktoberfest.

by marc w on Oct 26, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need to seek some out now

the dark hef was really quite good, but I freely admit my knowledge of dunkelweizens is pretty limited. But now I need to explore more.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baker blogging

starts out talking Tui in PR (“He’ll be playing third base primarily, but had a recent conversation with the team’s general manager and hopes to see stints at other positions.”) and then Geoff throws Orlando Hudson’s name out there as well

by msb on Oct 26, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

But oh dear lord I could never live in Montana

From the Bayern site:

According to Montana state laws, we can serve 48 ounces of beer per person between the hours of 10:00 A.M. and 8:00 P.M.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me!

I think.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

bwahahahaha

I will bet anybody any amount of money they want to bet that the pilots who overshot MSP last week were porning it up on the flight deck:

The pilots of the commercial jetliner that last week overshot its destination by about 150 miles have said they were using their laptops and lost track of time and location, federal safety officials said Monday…They each had a 19-hour layover in San Diego; neither said he had slept or argued during the flight, but both said “there was a distraction” in the cockpit, according to the report…The pilots said there was “a concentrated period of discussion where they did not monitor the airplane or calls” from air traffic control, though both said they heard conversation on the radio, the report said.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

They don't need to, autopilot does all the work

frees up time for porn.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh huh...

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 26, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several airlines are already offering it actually

Delta has it, Alaska’s testing it, and I’m pretty sure there’s at least one or two more that are either offering it or close to it.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've yet to be on a flight that has it

But I’m really hoping Alaska has it on my Detroit flight.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alaska does not fly to Detroit.

Perhaps the flight is on another carrier, and it is just booked through Alaska?

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by Eyebrows on Oct 26, 2009 2:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Delta's got commercials in flight

that basically say “we don’t block anything, but if you’d be embarrassed to show it to your mother don’t view it from your seat”.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was impressed with the ads

I figured they’d opt for the don’t-ask-don’t-tell approach but they actually are trying to stop problems before they start.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the only smart way to do it.

People could have been watching porn DVDs on their laptops this whole time, but haven’t been (I hope).

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by Eyebrows on Oct 26, 2009 2:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Virgin America has it on all of their planes

though they only have a fleet of about 20 or so.

Delta has it on a large portion of their fleet as well. However, like Virgin, they are using cheaper tech that installs faster but won’t work outside of range of land

Southwest is using the same (superior) tech as Alaska, though they have it on way more of their planes.

Alaska still only has it on one 737-700, figuring out issues with the parts supplier’s financial position and FAA approval for an an alternate installation method that would require the planes to be out of service for less time.

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by Eyebrows on Oct 26, 2009 2:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Its not my neighbor but my brothers neighbor dug a french drain ditch in their yard

But did it wrong and its flooding my brothers property. This morning my brother saw him out there covering the drain with a tarp to prevent water from going into the drain.

Failblog worthy?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did in fact give a half assed effort.

Not to mention the verbal abuse he has given my brother everytime my brother has gone over to talk to him about it. Including putting up a no trespassing sign. The house is on a 40ft wide lot with a shared driveway!

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have him talk to the code enforcement guy.

Lots of time they can tell you what the process is for something like that, or even if it’s something you can do anything about. It’s possible that he needed a permit to put in buried drains (I know you do in my town) and he violated that.

Suing over that stuff is douchey, but it sounds like it’s gotten past the douche point by now.

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by Faux on Oct 26, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The people two doors down want to remover a cedar tree that is on their property, but grows right to the property line.

The guy next door doesn’t want them to remove it, so he parked a van right next to it and refuses to move it. Tree removal people won’t take the job. According to the story, the guy hasn’t moved the van in two years.

by Kermit. on Oct 26, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What exactly is that a typo for?

What could that person possibly have been trying to write, except that word?

by royalcurve on Oct 26, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know I did!

“Latin preposition, meaning ‘with, together with’, used in English in local names of combined parishes or benefices, as Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Stow-cum-Quy, where it originated in Latin documents. Also in several much-used Latin phrases, as cum grano salis (or familiarly cum grano), lit. ‘with a grain of salt,’ i.e. with some caution or reserve; cum privilegio (ad imprimendum solum) with privilege (of sole printing); and in expressions, technical or humorous, imitating these, e.g. cum dividend (cum div.) relating to the sale or transfer of stock or shares together with the dividend about to be paid on them. Freq. used as a combining word to indicate a dual nature or function.”

by msb on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You obviously don't watch Mad Men

Christina Hendricks is way sexier than Jay Mohr.

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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

I love Christina Hendricks, but it doesn’t look like her in that short clip.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 27, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It looks almost identical to FIFA 09, but trust me when I say that the controls are far superior.

EA introduced 360-Degree Dribbling™, which sounds ridiculous but is awesome. In older games you could only move your player in the standard eight directions, which made everything a bit stilted. This feels a lot better.

by Teej on Oct 26, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had that game!

Jumping over the goalkeeper was the best

by Graham MacAree on Oct 27, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

woo hooo

(blur’s song 2 for the opening sequence bit)
woo hooo

And yeah, jumping over the keeper was fun. Any idea what the hell that US league was? A portion of the A league, or just some random cities/players the developers made up? I wanted to be the (old) Sounders, but the game wouldn’t allow it :(

by marc w on Oct 27, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You could rename the teams and fix their colors

I started naming them “Sounders FC” and made them navy/teal with stripes.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Soooo....

Anyone else going to Sounders playoffs?

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by section331 on Oct 26, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you normally sit with the ECS?

I never asked you directly, but got the impression you were a member. If you’re going to Fuel pre-game, feel free to introduce yourself, if you want…

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by section331 on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be at Fuel before the game

And think I’ll wear my scarf to school today. :D There are a few Sounders jackets running around at the EDCC…

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by section331 on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fifa 10 people with a PS3

Add me and we can have a game! My username is the ultra nerdy ‘Ubiquitous1984’.

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by EnglishMariner on Oct 27, 2009 4:21 AM PDT reply actions  

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