It's Friday, 10/23/09, and we need another OTFPOTD
The recent OTFPOTD has exceeded the critical mass of 1000+ posts. I was going to save this one for Monday, but eh, I've never done one of these and I'm way overdue anyway.
Possible Questions:
* Fall has been a topic of late, both in Seattle and NYC, where we are jumping wildly from low-60s to low-40s and back again on any given day. We've talked holidays and nature and football and BEER, so here's another question with a different spin on it: do your music listening habits change with the leaves? Do certain bands or albums typify fall for you more than any other season? Extra credit: what about reading?
* Strangest book you have ever read? Strangest movie you have ever seen? Explicate. Was it worth it?
* What non-curse, non-buzz word would you care to never hear again?
* Via MarinerJohn, what's your favorite archipelago?
* Via waldo rojas, most overrated board games?
* Let's talk disappointment... in music. Who is an artist that you were really excited about back in the day that never followed up in the way you expected, or otherwise got mired in prolonged periods of mediocrity?
* Movie series reboots have probably been done. What about video game series reboots? Any particular successes, failures, or ones that generated mixed reactions?
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Great stuff, J.
1) I was thinking about this earlier, as I had made something like a summer playlist, and kept in mind what I’d listen to in the fall (or winter). The primary thing that wasn’t for summer, but was good for the fall was post-rock for some reason. Probably the fact that since Friday Night Lights, Explosions in the Sky is the soundtrack to every slo-mo football highlight that aspires to something more than a Stuart Scott one-liner. So yeah, post-rock.
2) I don’t know, but I’m still desperate to see that insane Thai western from several years back that everyone talks about as a great/insane movie. I’ll have to think more about the book portion….
3) “right-size”
4) I still may have to go with the Lofotens, but they’re so small. I think we need a heavyweight/middleweight/flyweight-type of system. Maybe use the AAA/AA/A B11/B8 framework. Lofotens for flyweight, maybe Japan for the big boys. New Zealand for middleweights?
5) They’re pretty much all overrated. Nostalgia makes them seem more complex/nuanced/fun than they really are. How about Risk?
6) Easy answer is Modest Mouse, whose early work blows my mind and whose recent output merely blows. Archers of Loaf, maybe, though that’s more that I’ve never really gotten much out of Eric Bachman’s post-AoL projects.
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Risk, but if I have time, I prefer Axis and Allies.
by waldo rojas on Oct 23, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Diplomacy, if you have lots of time.
(probably not the MOST overrated, but any roll the die and move your little piece up the board-style games have already faced something of a correction)
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Modest Mouse.
Something snapped after the whole fall out with Murder City Devils and I think he decided to try and become something different. He did and it isn’t as good.
by Sec 108 on Oct 23, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still really dig Modest Mouse!
There last batch of music that produced …before the ship ever sank and no one’s first and your next contain some of my favorite mouse songs, like: King Rat, Autumn Bed, Little Motel, Spitting Venom and Parting of the Sensory.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Th early, heavy stuff was electric.
Modest Mouse live in 1997 was just fucking jaw-dropping. What they became might be something people like a lot, but compared to what they were it’s…well, I don’t want to judge taste here, but it’s so much different than what it seemed like they were destined to become.
by acblue on Oct 24, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt they have changed...
and have produced a few commercially aimed songs, but I still find songs like the ones I listed above as raw and beautiful.
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by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answers!
1. The more I think about it, my answer kinda is “I used to but I don’t any more”. These days, I listen to pretty much whatever floats across my transom whenever it strikes me, but there is definitely a lot of stuff to be gained with seasonal playlists, because it makes you think about music in a different way. Not just “is this good” but “what matches the clouds and rain” and stuff like that.
2.
3. Iterate.
4. I gotta go with New Zealand because of Flight of the Conchords.
5. Didn’t grow up playing board games, so I don’t really have an opinion – I like the occasional game of Clue but that’s about it for my knowledge of board games.
6. It’s hard for me to answer the first part of that question, because I have a billion CD’s of a billion bands that put out one stellar record or several great singles, never to be heard from again (I still miss you, Valentine Killers! You’re still on my mind, Dharma Bums!). For the “otherwise got mired” part of your question, though, as mainstreamy as it sounds, I gotta go with Elvis Costello. Fortunately, his career has been long enough that it’s sine-waveish; every fallow period is followed by at least a brief spike of goodness. And most of his “fallow” periods are marked by records that others would die to have made; they just don’t stand up to the rest of his stuff in my opinion.
7. Not a video game guy, sorry.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh crap I forgot #2
Probably Pink Flamingos.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"5. Didn’t grow up playing board games, so I don’t really have an opinion "
Yup.
we had Candyland ( I liked the pictures of candy, but that was about it) and later, Mouse trap (which only got played with as a construction object)
by msb on Oct 23, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU BE THE CAT
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To this day
I still have no idea how one “plays” Mouse Trap for that very reason. It was really nothing more than an excuse to build a Rube Goldberg contraption.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello!
1) A little, probably less island music, more ponderous jazz. I reads what I reads when I reads it.
2) Working my way through Poe right now, there is some really odd, fascinating stuff in there. “The Balloon-Hoax” and “Gold-bug” stand out.
3) Not so much a word, but a phrasing that has become popular in sports and is spreading. “A Derek Jeter, A Manny Ramirez..” when referring to Derek Jeter or Manny. I hear it all the time now and it makes me feel sad that Carlin is dead.
4) I’ve only ever been to Hawaii and Japan, they are both nice in their own ways.
5) Clue
6) Luniz
7) I really like Bionic Commando in a nostalgic way, but then realized it’s actually not that fun.
by waldo rojas on Oct 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bionic Commando
was probably one of the few games that frustrated me with its in-game limitations. I can understand the charm of the claw arm and all that crazy shit but there’s really no reason I shouldn’t be able to jump.
Not that there was a reason either for 90% of early video game heroes out to save the universe being completely unable to swim.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This'll put some sand in some people's pudding
Hulu is going to start charging for content. I’m surprised it took them this long.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I always assumed they did.
fuck.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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by I'm NOT Corco on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
Probably has something to do with Comcast buying out NBC. My hatred for Comcast only continues to grow.
Chad Brown for the Ring of Honor!
by Big Seahawk Loser on Oct 25, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm.
- No but I definitely start watching more seasonal movies when it comes to Halloween and Christmas.
- "Cecil B. DeMented " – It’s about a lunatic young film director and his band of young cultists who kidnap an A-list Hollywood movie star and force her to be in their underground movie. It’s about teen terrorism against the movie business.
- “Keyword” or anything involving a company talking about using social media.
- Hawaiian Islands
- Monopoly
- Creed (hahahaha)
- Anything based of a original NES game.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was actually thinking about Cecil B. DeMented, but then pdb mentioned Pink Flamingoes
and really, Cecil B. DeMented is, for Waters, pretty damned normal.
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It actually enjoyed it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here!
I was actually really, really excited for it, and it never lived up to the movie I thought he was going to make, but that’s my fault.
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I didn't realize that Waters did Pink Flamingo as well.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In hindsight, the fact that 50-something women are desperate to buy tickets to a broadway show based on a John Waters movie
is about as remarkable as the fact that the director of Meet the Feebles won an Academy Award for best director.
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PunchOut! was pretty good for Wii.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never been a punch out fan.
There I said it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you guys going to be for Halloween?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
An underpaid government employee...
Oh. Shit. Nevermind.
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says the guy postin here on the clock...
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poorly formed words and poorly formed sentence...
And yet another ellipsis, because that’s how I roll.
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fangraphs commenter!
That question was totally sub-par, and I think you have like minutes to go before Graham bans you. You never add anything, and frankly, I find it insulting that you pretend to care what I’m going to be for Halloween. You’re singlehandedly destroying this website.
I pity you, or hate you. I haven’t decided which just yet.
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read the paragraph before the subject line.
And was throughly confused.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.....that just happen.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's my friend's birthday.
So I’m going to be blind stinking drunk, and possibly attending a burlesque show in which she’ll be breathing fire.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If she'll be in lingerie, I'll ask for the address...
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She will be.
You’d have to come to New York though.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like something I might have done before I got married...
Not that I could have afforded the plane ticket… then again I’d probably still be in SF so I’d be able to find a burlesque show locally…
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That does add a layer of complication to it.
I figure I could always defend it as “I’m supporting my friend’s art”, by which I could justify nearly anything at this point, but I’ve not yet needed to, nor felt inclined. It’s worth seeing though, for the acts and for the people watching.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
What is the best costume you’ve ever seen?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen some folks with phenomenal zombie make-up
not that I knew it was make up until I started breaking down the body for disposal.
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend went as Small Wonder, the 80s sitcom little girl robot.
(he’s an adult male).
There was a “Wheel of Fortune” (the actual wheel) with random things on it, one of which was ‘surprise!’ If you got surprise, another person, who was hiding in the basement, would run up and scream at you. I simply don’t have the time/patience/coordinating ability to do something like that, and I’m also not persuasive enough to convince a friend to hang out in the basement of a party only to come out at certain times and yell at people.
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One year someone came as the Burning Bush (minus Moses) ...
I made a set of full-size Jeopardy podiums for a pair of us to stand behind as Jeopardy losers one year
by msb on Oct 23, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't the foggiest.
I haven’t dressed up as anything for ages, and this year I probably will. No idea what to be though.
by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't a clue yet
I need to pick something. My son is going as a skeleton, and my fiancee is going as a witch (Halloween is her favorite holiday). I told her I was going to go as a car salesman and she said that I couldn’t because I was supposed to be something scary. I then told her I was going to be a used car salesm
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*salesman
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be down in AZ watching the Fall League on Halloween.
So I will be wearing what I always wear in AZ: shorts, M’s shirt and my camera.
by mark sobba on Oct 23, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going as Nightman!

I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 26, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With cat eyes?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I don't have the contacts unfortunately.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 26, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would've been awesome.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying not to think too much...
- Oddly, that weather pattern sounds about the same as we’ve had here in the KC Metro area, with a little more of the 40s than the 60s. The only real seasonal change to my music listening is that towards late November I break out the Squirrel Nut Zippers Christmas album once or twice. Reading? That cycle is a on a grander scale. I read the entire lexicography of Jonathan Kellerman in 2 weeks a few years back and have only read three non-textbooks since.
- Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath (book). Couldn’t say on the film side. Un Chien Andalu is too obvious and pretty unentertaining (except the part with the friars and the dead mule).
- Post-modern. Okay, I don’t mind the word, I just hate the writing.
- New Zealand is the one I’m most interested in visiting, so I’ll go with that.
- Monopoly. Holy fuck, that’s boring. Axis and Allies, on the other hand, awesome (if you have 30 hours to sepnd on it).
- They Might Be Giants. Lots of phenomenal stuff, and lots of stuff that shouldn’t even be played during the 99th season of Bill Nye the Science Guy.
- I don’t play enough video games to answer this one. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on the new Blood Bowl, but that wasn’t a series.
by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Video game reboots?
Not sure if this counts as a reboot, but I thought the Metroid prime series just kicked all kinds of ass at moving the game from 2D to 3D.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Oct 23, 2009 2:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Playing my own game
1. I can’t seem to justify listening to Tom Waits’ “The Black Rider” in any other season. It’s just not the same. Otherwise, I tend to bust out a bit of post-punk/rock stuff every winter, will work Mingus, Coltrane, the Lounge Lizards, and other jazz types into more regular rotation, and as it gets into winter, slip in a bit of classical.
Bonus question: I just bought a bilingual collection of Rilke, hardcover, $50, because I tend to deposit paychecks at the bookstore, or the record store, or the liquor store. He’s definitely Fall. Wallace Stevens might be too.
2. Movie, might be Survive Style 5+. Loosely interweaving goofy plotlines, centering around a man who can’t stop killing his wife (who keeps coming back with terrifying superpowers), a middle class family with awful luck, a young woman in advertising who may or may not be going crazy and is also banging a hypnotist, and Vinnie Jones running around asking people what their function in life is and then killing them.
Clip from stories 1 and 2 (AUDIO IS REALLY NSFW AT END)
Trailer
Book: Maybe Pedro Paramo, though it’s one of the few books I re-read immediately on finishing it. Loved it.
3. Probably “The Other” in an intellectual context, or “postmodernism”, both as a word and a movement and the various theories that got swept up in it.
4. Hawaii, due to lack of additional data. The San Juans might qualify too, and that’s how much I’m reaching.
5. I think I remember Sorry being kind of frustrating at times but otherwise there was no one that I particularly disliked. Monopoly I could handle because I played loose with the rules and something funny would usually happen.
6. Eh… I don’t know. Easy answers come from the period of time when I was just getting into the idea of indie rock, so I’d say Interpol, TV on the Radio (great vocalist, never as interesting as people make them out to be), and maybe The Stills, whom I had some weird fondness for briefly.
7. I would play Fallout 3 if I had a console and a TV at the moment (I don’t want to run it on my laptop), but I had all kinds of reservations about it being loyal to the first two, and the fact that they pulled the plug on Black Isle while they were nearly to an alpha. Resident Evil may qualify for a successful reboot even if the old ones were okay by me, dumb plots and weak controls and all. I also might add Castlevania: Symphony of the Night as another awesome reboot, but the ones immediately after it blew and it’s been off and on since.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I take the San Juans for granted.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're cold and rainy
but a completely different level of cold and rainy than the NW.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you liked the San Juans
you may also enjoy: “The Shetlands” “The Orkneys” “The Lofotens” “The Queen Charlottes”
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I took nature for granted before I moved here.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nature exists to put malls and condo developments on
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's getting close to where Roche Harbor is at now.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just remined myself of the description RRS used to describe beach developments in Oz ...
“Legoland with chain restaurants”
by msb on Oct 23, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is truly sad.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks.
Next time you are in Roche Harbor, check out the McMillan family mausoleum, it’s behind the cottages in the woods. Holy hell is it creepy and weird.
by waldo rojas on Oct 23, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That place is great
Though definitely creepy. One of the chairs at the table is for a baby that I assume was stillborn, or at least died the day it was born.
by Mikky on Oct 25, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know you could go in there.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 25, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it really?
I haven’t been out there for about 5 years.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was up there this past summer.
They have a row of condos down the east side of the main drag now and along the west end they have a lot of trendy specialty shops and spas, with more construction on the way. The cottages over on the east end of the harbor remain untouched for now though.
I was talking with my dad about it and I think he told me some restaurateur bought the place up intending to make it a high-end destination type place. There were certainly some fancy boats in harbor too.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks but it would definitely make it more of a destination.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game that needs a reboot - Alpha Centauri
that is all
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be something.
I never played it, but I remember really wanting it at the time, and I do get addicted to Civilization IV again once every few months.
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by JY on Oct 23, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alpha Centauri is by far the best game I have ever played, including Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Modern Warfare is better than World at War? Should I get it?
by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Modern Warfare's multplayer was massively fun
but might as well just get MW2 in three weeks
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RC is getting MW2?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be epic.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may have had some shyness issues with playing with you guys before
But I can guarantee that I am now a vicious and effective virtual killer.
by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd better be
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To make up for you being on our team?
I kid, I kid
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit yeah, man
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what I'll do without my DP-28 :(
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to laugh when you (or Coach) turns into a cold-blooded sniper
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll laugh too
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just can't wait for SB to go silent after dying 5 times in a row.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preceded by a long string of loud expletives
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't hear me if my mic has been thrown out of the loft
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why they happen before
“DAVID YOU’RE SO STUPID YOU SUCK AHH – *hiss sound”
And then you’re quiet until the end of the game
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which, I should add usually involves me going on a 10-2 run
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the 2 deaths are from when you run across the room to pick up the controller
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just get killed or booted because I'm downstairs getting food or beer.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He always chimes in with
“I’m sorry guys”
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he doesn't sugarcoat it
“yeah my uh, mic was, uh, it broke. i fixed it though”
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THREE WEEKS
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWO POINT FIVE WEEKS
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On this note.
Is there anything to do in Detroit?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People with Fifa 10 and a PS3 need to get online and play me now!
One caveat: I absolutely suck at it.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to my research, The Sounders are not as good as Real Madrid.
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I bought the game I decided to unleash City on the Sounders, but I somehow managed to get beat. :(
And I think Freddie scored the only goal. :/
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, YES, NO!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I reserve the right to root for Arsenal if Freddie goes back
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in the same division, anyway.
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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what I meant.
But what happens if a team you adopt in a lower division moves up?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my Stoke conundrum
I root for them openly as long as their getting a result won’t hurt Arsenal.
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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gulp.... I like Stoke too! Could you and I be on the same side of a soccer coin?!
by royalcurve on Oct 26, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stranger things have happened.
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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stoke are a nasty team.
They may appear cute with their long throws and ‘hustle’, but their fans are some of the most violent in the country. Support a nice harmless team like … Norwich?? Delia!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 27, 2009 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to pick whatever team Freddie plays for as long as I can understand their language and aren't full of satan
by Robert on Oct 26, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have officially transformed into a 14-year-old girl.
by Taylor H on Oct 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That better not have anything to do with being an Arsenal fan
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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a surprising amount of 14-year-old girls who like Arsenal.
Maybe it’s Fabregas.
by Taylor H on Oct 26, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went down 3-0 to Rovers at the Bridge with 10 minutes left to play.
Amazingly I won that game and I don’t think I cheated (does Kalou scoring a hattrick count as a bug exploit?).
I’m playing a season with Chelsea right now, bought Fredy Montero off the Sounders, and his first contribution was to tear Fernando Torres’s ACL. Then he scored the winning goal against Liverpool.
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was having a great time in Manager Mode and was second in the league, and then I lost to Preston in the FA Cup and then went down 1-0 at OT to United and for some reason they sacked me.
Hopefully the new patch will fix this.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same thing happened to me with the Sounders except I won the game before I got fired.
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto actually, I beat Hull 3-0 and then got sacked!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Manager Mode pretty much the way to do seasons?
All these modes are overwhelming.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Forza 3 is released today in Europe, but not until Tuesday in the US, annoyingly
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have the new Forza, a legal copy, sitting right next to me.
Yay working at a video store
by Kirkharbaugh on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
to bad you cant play it
fifa fifa fifa fifa
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
turns out you did play it already but who cares
fifa fifa fifa fifa
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've played it more than you have played Fifa probably.
Its not like its ever going back anyway.
by Kirkharbaugh on Oct 25, 2009 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: video game reboots,
The Secret of Monkey Island was recently remade and it still holds up as one of the funniest games of all time. Seriously, everybody needs to get this game so that they will be encouraged to remake other classic Lucasarts adventure games
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was impressed by how good the Monkey Island remake was.
It made me laugh a lot, and I don’t usually laugh at video games (except for Clive Barker presents Clive Barker’s Jericho, by Clive Barker…worst video game ever).
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 26, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When's the last time a good puzzle game was made?
Tetris is probably the most glorious of all puzzle games, but there’s been Tetris Attack/Panel de Pon/Pokemon Puzzle League that was pretty good, Bust A Move is pretty good, I remember Zoop being a big deal… but has anything good come out in this department in the last five years?
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Snood! Bejeweled!
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got me on Bejeweled
but isn’t Snood just another version of Bust A Move?
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know what Bust A Move is so I can't say
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Bust A Move, you shoot colored marbles into a field already filled somewhat with marbles.
If you connect three of the same color, they drop out of the puzzle, sometimes creating a chain reaction where other marbles also drop.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's pretty much Snood.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck yes it does
That game was excellent, and it kicked my brain’s ass
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I feel I neglect to mention the old-school Dr. Mario.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Games that need reboots:
Sierra’s Space Quest and King’s Quest series
Lucasarts’ X-Wing franchise
System Shock
by BrianL on Oct 23, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Wing Commander a million times over X-Wing
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
X-Wing is amazing so shut your whore mouth
by Graham on Oct 23, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Super amazing
Definitely better than Wing Commander.
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't trust anything with the name Lucas
to reboot anything related to Star Wars in any good way.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully the guy that is in charge of their gaming division seems to have a good head on his shoulders
He approved Monkey Island’s reboot and has said that they can’t ignore the games that made the company popular
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They ousted the guy who ran the game division into the ground last year didn't they?
by BrianL on Oct 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes they did
And the new guy sounds like he is awesome
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously X-Wing was superior to Wing Commander in every way, shape, and form.
by BrianL on Oct 23, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
X-Wing vs Tie Fight > wing commander
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Xwing would end up on Nintendo though and get fucked hard.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh hells yes.
A reboot of the King’s Quest series would be amazing. I’d also toss in Quest for Glory, and the Lands of Lore series as well.
Oh, and Shining Force.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shining Force, yes.
Solid tactical RPG. Nothing extraordinary as content went, but still good fun. Of course, we never got the third installment proper, but that seems to be a recurring thing. I’m continually frustrated by the knowledge that there are games in plenty of series that I enjoy that will never see the light of day in the U.S.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 26, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kings Quest just got re released on steam didn't it?
I still want to see a iphone port of all the kings/space quest games.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 26, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reboot Bubble Bobble.
I dare you.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorta done already!
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just blew my mind.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, I found a nearly 10 year old NW Bowling newsletter that says I did better than you in some tournament way back when
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well I won the Bantam Prep division of the 1998 Seattle Senior Open Pro Am
so fuck you.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOWLING FIGHT!!!!!
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let them get their wrist guards on first.
by Sec 108 on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And our shoe-protectors, since we'd probably have to take the fight outside and don't want to ruin our bowling shoes
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't enter otherwise I'd have maybe won or something
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
4 PLAYER BUBBLE BOBBLE! HOLY CRAP!
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it looks awesome!
I loved that game so hard as a kid. I still have the whole theme song memorized
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a guitar tab around here for it and play it occasionally.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was probably a King of the Hill tournament, actually.
I never seemed to be able to win one of those, though I was at practically every one.*
- I did manage to win two of them.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll check it again when I get home
I came across a random box of old bowling stuff and it contained all kinds of cool shit
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patches, sucka.
They don’t even give out patches as bowling awards anymore. It’s pretty lame.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure they do
I got a bunch from last year. Of course, the junior patches were for lousy accomplishments like 140 games and 500 series
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since I'm mentioned I feel obligated to reply
- My tastes don’t really change with the season, but I’m probably more likely to listen to more depressing music now, like Death Cab for Cutie or Alice in Chains, than I would typically. But most of my music choice come with what I’ve recently discovered more than any conscious change.
- Really poor at judging these things but I’d have to say Memento was the strangest movie because, well, I think it’s pretty obvious
- hella
- The Aleutians
- Chess. Maybe it’s just that I suck at it though
- The Strokes have never come to the same level as their first album. Third Eye Blind had an excellent first album and has since sucked. Weezer sucks now. The newer Flight of the Conchords stuff has disappointed me. Faith No More dropped off for me after Angel Dust. Maybe I’m doing this wrong though
- I’m not old enough to remember good video game franchises that could be remade. And I own a system which would have no remakes for my favorite old games. The new Perfect Dark sucked though.
by Mariner John on Oct 23, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh man I love all the Stokes albums!
But I don’t love that there are only three of them.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw this reply whilst [ctl-z]-ing and thought ...
but Stokes has more than three albums ….
by msb on Oct 24, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes a well placed "R" can make all the difference!
Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a 30 percent off Borders coupon (don't hate on me for the chains; I usually go to EBC)
And I’m going to be on a plane to DC and back this weekend. What should I use it on?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 23, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I already have the virtuals though.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 23, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's better with the real books in front of you
you can throw them across the room when Jacob rape-kisses her more easily
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR SHOPPING AT CHAINS
There’s a new Chuck Klosterman if that’s your thing.
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Chaikin's "A Man on the Moon"
“The Name of the Wind” by Patrick Rothfuss.
by BrianL on Oct 23, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weirdest book I ever read:
“House of Leaves,” by Mark Danielewski.
by Teej on Oct 23, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You didn't make the "o" blue.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear about it all the time
but have thus far resisted it because it sounds gimmicky and most of the people I know who talk about it are pretentious in a hopelessly counterculture way.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 23, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be honest, I've tried twice and never got more than halway through.
It’s interesting and very creepy, but it’s also a chore at times, and I just never had the dedication to finish it.
by Teej on Oct 23, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great work of fiction, but if you don't pay attention, you'll get lost.
I loved it and I want to read it again when I have the time.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Klaw Chat:
I’ve been asked about that trade rumor for three years but never answered while Ricciardi was still GM. The offer was made, though; I was there when the call came in. It was the first time I’d heard of Wright, since I wasn’t with Toronto in 2001 nor had I followed the draft when Wright was in it. JP’s reaction was, “I’m not trading a major league player for some guy in the Sally League.” And that was pretty much that. We had a chance to trade Cruz after that for Rafael Soriano, but JP refused to do it unless Seattle included Clint Nageotte, who, at the time, was a pretty hot prospect. It’s weird; I can’t remember some things that happened last week but I remember those conversations (over seven years ago now) like they just took place.
If only we had gotten Rafael Soriano in 1997!
by Poochie on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We could have had Wright anyway.
And instead we drafted Michael Garciaparra.
Why do people keep reminding me of that?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since a member of my immediate family probably owns every major board game of the last 10 years
I can tell you that Apples to Apples is a terrible game. I don’t know if it’s overrated but I know that it’s bad.
by OlSalty on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Reverse stripping Apples to Apples is fantastic though.
by Sec 108 on Oct 23, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reverse stripping seems downright un-American
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by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love apples to apples.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My complaint with it is there are far too many rounds where none of your cards will either be funny or make sense to play
So you’re just stuck with a massive letdown for everyone involved who was expecting some humor.
Not that it can’t be funny with the right people playing and it’s a decent idea for a game but you’re limited by the subjects on the cards too much.
by OlSalty on Oct 23, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosie O'Donaldl always makes for a solid play.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa there is a extra L in there.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a "D" and no "E"
Damn google.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus there's the auto-win card
Helen Keller.
I know our group took Helen Keller out of the deck because she wasn’t fair
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know Helen Keller had a swingset in her backyard?
Neither did she.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Have you ever seen Hellen Kellers dad?
Neither has she.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've found the game is hysterical if you have one or two really creative people who make up all of the green cards themselves
and just call them out as the game goes along
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have this game at the bar and I'm always tempted to play it.
by Teej on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see this game getting out of hand when drunk.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember when my Mother in Law picked "Toys" for inspirational.
Over Abraham Lincoln.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife lost it.
And just went off – It was hysterical.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think my favorite was when my roommate the word "Fuzz" for the green card "Fuzzy"
needless to say, he won that one
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apples to Apples is a great game for in-jokes.
I don’t know exactly how, but the card “wheat” managed to become a card that always seems to win with me.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apples to Apples is great if you have people that get easily frustrated
I refuse to pick the answers that make the most sense, and it is the logical people who can’t think outside the box that start flipping out when I refuse to match “french fries” with “salty.”
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 23, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game is just as much a test of how well you know your friends as how good your sense of humor is
and always just reinforces that some people are really, really uninteresting
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of the commentary on this game makes the least bit of sense to me, as I've never heard of it. Well, until now
by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've played it but can't for the life of me remember how it goes
by Poochie on Oct 23, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a green card with an adjective
players have 6 cards with nouns. Players try to fit the noun that best suits the given adjective. To put it simply.
by Mariner John on Oct 23, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So fucking wrong.
You just have to play it with the right crowd.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 26, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a party-game tangent, Catchphrase is awesome.
And I am awesome at Catchphrase. Very awesome. Like teaming with me is an auto-win awesome.
by James F'n X on Oct 26, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it annoy anyone else when your work says you need to fly to detroit.
But won’t tell you when?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The only places I've had to fly for work are Lake Tahoe and Steamboat Springs.
The “when” part would bug me though, yes.
by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The farthest I've ever had to travel for work was Hollywood.
Which is awesome. Because I despise traveling.
by Teej on Oct 23, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was either Miami or Detroit.
Don’t ask me how Detroit got picked.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 23, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Games that need rebooted-Need for Speed
As in, NFS has been terrible since Hot Pursuit 2 and needs rebooted back to when it was good(though I did enjoyed Most Wanted).
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shift seems to be pretty good
The demo is awesome. Probably the best game at making you feel like you’re behind a wheel at 150 mph. Engine sounds are amazing and the cars drive pretty great also. And the effects from when you crash actually make you want to avoid collisions
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I've heard good things about Shift, namely because it seems to be a departure from what the last half dozen NFS games did.
I’m probably going to pick it up some time next week.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 23, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFS Porsche Unleashed was one of my all-time favorite games
by rlintott on Oct 24, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Porsche Unleashed and Hot Pursuit 2 are probably my favorites in the series. With Most Wanted being a close 3rd.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 24, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't release an MLB Power Pros for 2009
so I bought the 2008 version on ebay… but the fact that there was no 2009 game made me sad.
That probably doesn’t count as a “reboot” though.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Radical archipelagos:
Can’t decide between New Zealand, New Caledonia and Galapagos.
by royalcurve on Oct 23, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For you gamers out there
what are the chances this guy gets more than 5% of what he’s asking for this lot?
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Many people who play such games do not seem to understand why they do not retain value.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 23, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I am going to offer him his choice of $8 or double the GameStop buy price
just to see which one he chooses.
I’m fairly certain double the GameStop buy price will be like $5
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he may be retarded
Who would buy the whole lot? Oooh, the 2k4 and 2k5 versions of ESPN baseball, as well as the non-ESPN branded 2k6?
Seriously, he’d be lucky to have somebody offer $15 for Halo 2 and demand that he throw the rest in on top of that for use as decorative coasters
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get over that he bought a poker game and Bad Boys Miami Takedown in the first place
Let alone that he wants people to pay $10 for them.
by OlSalty on Oct 23, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet most of those games aren't even backward compatible with the 360
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the best part is that he's offering a whole $15 discount if you take all 13 games
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buy a dozen and I'll make it a baker's dozen for FREE!
It’s a bargain at twice the price!
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does GameStop have the buy prices listed online?
Someone should figure out what the total value of those games is, but if I’m remembering correctly, they buy NCAA Football ’08 for like $1, and the sports games are all at least two years beyond that so…
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but you can get them from Amazon.com
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoy these questions!
Music listening habits definitely change. Listening to a lot more Wipers, Dead Moon, Melvins, etc. these days.
Book. It’s a non-fiction account of a child sexual abuse/satanic cult case in Olympia in the 1980s that was based entirely on “recovered memories.” The details of the case are astoundingly bizarre and if you are a skeptic it will make your brain sad. Definitely worth a read.
Movie. Campy Thai western. Absolutely gorgeous colors, beautifully shot, great action sequences, weirder than shit. I love it.
Nosh
Aleutians
I like Monopoly is some contexts but it is definitely way overrated.
The Blue Album was one of the best debuts of the 1990s, Pinkerton is the best power-pop album ever realeased, and everything since then has been an embarrassment. Weezer makes me sad.
by acblue on Oct 23, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oooh recovered memories, I completely forgot they were the rage for a diagnosis in the '90's.
Oprah may have been the crown on that jewel.
by Kermit. on Oct 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's fun is when you agree to go to someone's college play because they're a friend or whatever without really investigating what play it is
Then you show up and find out it’s Equus.
by OlSalty on Oct 23, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you friends with Daniel Radcliffe?
by Decatur on Oct 23, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daniel Radcliffe stars in every single production of Equus?
by redwolf75 on Oct 23, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's one way to be forgotten as "that Harry Potter kid"
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 23, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monopoly seems to be a consensus-overrated choice
but it’s actually a pretty good game if you have the right people playing it who have an interest in making the game play quickly and like to make trades. In a game like that, Monopoly can be a bit of a frenzy, and actually fun.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 23, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
See, I used to play it several times a week with friends
And we’d make games stretch on for hours sometimes, enjoying it all the way. Cook up a few rule changes and openly make trades and alliances early on, and the game is a blast
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 23, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rail Baron is the best board game ever.
Axis and Allies is damn good too as was Broadsides and Boarding Parties.
by Sec 108 on Oct 23, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MORE!
Reboot: Leisure Suit Larry. I have no idea what this would be, though I’m told parts of GTA got close. Maybe an Arkanoid reboot? The blocks are a form of Terrorism, and you need to destroy them to save freedom?
Archipelagoooooo onnnnn: I wonder what some of the weirder places named after small british islands are like. I’ve not been to the Orkneys, but I’ve REALLY not been to the South Orkneys. I HAVE been to the Sandwich Islands, but not the South Sandwich Islands. How does France own New Caledonia? That seems odd. New Hebrides, or fuck it, New Britain. Basically, I want to conduct a lot more archipelago research.
And since I haven’t seen the campy Thai western, the weirdest movie I have seen is clearly ‘Funky Forest.’
by marc w on Oct 23, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Already done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure_Suit_Larry:_Box_Office_Bust
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 25, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I mean a reboot done right
via Wikipedia: “although, unlike Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude, this game does not contain nudity and sexual content…”
I’m not a video game buyer anyway, but a PG rated LSL makes as much sense to me as a no-kill Call of Duty.
“Game stats: 23 Wehrmacht tickled, 12 SS bested in Arm Wrestling; your limerick was defeated by the luftwaffe captain.”
by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MechWarrior Reboot
Announced in July for the 360 and PC
They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!
by muffinpryde on Oct 23, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That takes me back.
I used to play MechWarrior 2 for days. The expansion pack too, and the Mercenaries thing that was roughly of the same generation. I don’t know what the appeal was exactly. Could just be making really weird robots and seeing if I could still fight competently with them. Then 3 came out, and they had changed publishers, removed my favorite mech, and the specs were too high for my machine anyway. Even when I bought a better system, I couldn’t get back into it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Farming Game is a good board game, kind of a Monopoly type thing.
A decent follow up to N64 GoldenEye would have been nice, the controls were simple and intuitive. Everything I’ve played after was a huge disappointment.
by Kermit. on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IMO, to this day it's still far and away the best FPS of all time.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 23, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lawrence of Arabia
Best theatrical soundtrack of time or best theatrical soundtrack of all time?
On a side note, youtube is the only possible place where you can see both a vitriolic discussion on race politics and a discussion of the main character’s true sexuality on the same music video. I am aware this is harped on a lot, but someone needs to take the system of youtube commenting as a whole behind a shed and put it down.
by redwolf75 on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawrence is one of the most amazing movies ever made, and the score it glorious.
However, while I am not generally a fan of crediting lasting greatness to contemporary works, I cannot imagine a better score to any film than Johnny Greenwoods’ work on There Will Be Blood. It is completely and totally revolutionary. It was absolutely masterful in its ability to make abstract music not only palatable but understandable by wide audiences. Just completely amazing work.
by acblue on Oct 24, 2009 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that said, Lawrence in 35 with full Dolby Digital Surround is a life-changing experience.
David Lean is criminally underrated.
by acblue on Oct 24, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed the soundtrack in Blood was brilliant...
very Kubrician!
The songs are much more mainstream, but I love the way Richard Kelley uses music in his movies.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The use of music in film is so very much about feel, and timing, and a sense of drama/irony/humor/tragedy/etc.
I mean for God’s sake, look at the music in Scorcese’s films; girl groups and bubblegum pop mostly, but the music is always so pitch-perfect he even managed to make Dropkick Murphys not terrible, which is a feat in and of itself.
by acblue on Oct 24, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point! about Marty
I just read a quote from Kubric he was explaining how he had done the pre production version of 2001 using a soundtrack very similar to the one we all heard and he had a someone scoring the film for him with original music when he had the realization
“However good our best film composers may be, they are not a Beethoven, a Mozart or a Brahms. Why use music which is less good when there is such a multitude of great orchestral music available from the past and from our own time? When you are editing a film, it’s very helpful to be able to try out different pieces of music to see how they work with the scene…Well, with a little more care and thought, these temporary tracks can become the final score”
Seems like a no brainer now, but it was a breakthrough then.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanley Kubrick was a different quantity than what you might expect were you to perform a mathematical function involving his various abilities
and I will leave it at that, with the only statement of judgment being that I have a tremendous amount of respect for the man and his innovations.
by acblue on Oct 24, 2009 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well christ blue...
that could go either way. Was the quantity greater or less than the function?
I will say he made Peter Sellers shine and Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman do something with real meaning. A lot of people knock Eyes Wide Shut, but I think it is one of the more honest relationship movies I have seen.
Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just re-watched Big night
which has a fine mix of “contemporary” American and Italian pop music and Gary DeMichele’s score
by msb on Oct 24, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greenwoods' Blood was amazing
I still listen to it all the time, and for some reason it has become my go-to music when playing games such as Call of Duty and the like.
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funn you'd mention 'There will be blood,"
as I’d put that down for “strangest movie I have ever seen.” In a good way, of course,
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The summer is filled with more Sublime, Bob Marley, Weezer, Beastie Boys and as the fall slides into winter it is much more Muse, The Doors, Tool, Mars Volta and classical.
With strangest movie I am going with Eraserhead. It was totally worth it. David Lynch leaves me with the cool introspective kind of haunted feeling.
Strangest book is tough. Nothing really comes to mind. I guess I have to go with The Glass Bead Game. I am not sure strange is the right word for it, probably more visionary, but the end of that book has never left my psyche.
Has anyone ever read Illuminatus?
I am not sure strange is the right word for that either, probably more imaginative.
Disappointing musician is far and away hands down Chris Cornell. Dude what happened? Talk about someone losing their edge. The Rage Against the Machine band couldn’t even save him from his trip to vaginaville.
Honorable Mention: Gwen Stefani, The Tea Party, Zack De La Rocha, Axl Rose, Dr. Dre, and I know a bunch more will come to me.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Oct 24, 2009 2:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, and ...
Murray Chass throws some love at Jack & Don, too
by msb on Oct 24, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest music disappointment
For me this year has got to be Rammstein. They took a turn for the tacky with the newest album, and I went from being a huge fan to being almost embarrassed to admit I ever liked them. The whole ‘sex-as-shock’ schtick wore thin for me a LONG time ago, and they have figured out a way to make it worse. Schlechte Form, Herren.
As for Fall listening, I seemed to have gone back to anything by Underworld and Ohgr’s Welt album for some reason. Not sure why, as I normally associate that stuff with summer, but it seems to be what’s in my car lately.
I would also be happy if I never had to hear the phrase “reality star” ever, ever again. You’re famous for not using birth control, or marrying someone, or lying. You didn’t actually DO anything to gain your notoriety, you’re just an insecure douchebag who needs the rest of the world to know your problems. Enough, already.
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I figured out others
I have been fascinated with the Maldives since I became obsessed with Google Earth a few months ago. I spent some of my unemployment days early this year taking virtual “vacations”, and found the Maldives by accident; I had never heard of them before that.
I can’t pick just one weird movie. My husband and I are huge fans of anything weird, and my list is LONG. :/
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes.
I remember you bringing up movies that I had never heard of with some frequency.
Do try to come up with an incomplete list if you can.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 24, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
That is a challenge, honestly. We usually choose them by title, or the brief description that Netflix affords us. Let me give it a whirl….
Island of Death
The Room
Big Man Japan
Blades (yes, plural; NOT the vampire movie)
Anything from Five Minutes to Live.com (seriously, their Lost & Found collections are amazing)
Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus
Can’t Stop the Music (mad props to Steve Gutenberg!)
The Day the Earth Stopped (C Thomas Howell can go straight to Hell)
Rock n Roll Nightmare
Rock n Roll Nightmare II: The Intercessor (really, they should be watched in order. God help you)
There are shitloads more, but these are the ones I can come up with off the top of my head. I cannot recommend them enough.
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
Since nobody warned me, I will NOT allow others to go before me unheeded – there is a goat-fucking scene in Island of Death. Just so there’s no ‘two-girls-one-cup’-esque shock for anyone…
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trouble Everyday. My sister gave me a similar warning, but at the time that increased the desire to see the film.
Ugh. Horrible, long lasting trauma. Perhaps there is a cerebral explanation and reason for the that movie to exist. I’m not sure if I’d care to hear it, maybe. That movie had some issues.
by Kermit. on Oct 24, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the rape scene in Irreversible, multiplied by several factors.
by Kermit. on Oct 24, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Netflix is going to think there is something terribly wrong with us
Then again ,we own some of these. Above all else, I recommend The Room. It is the right mix of horrible and what-the-fuck, and it’s freaking brilliantly bad.
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
by section331 on Oct 24, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it worth the cost to upgrade?
I really have no beefs with Vista other than the amount of RAM it needs to run, since I don’t do much on the computer other than surf the web and watch baseball.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hurray!
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 24, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah know what sucks?
When you are installing a new OS like Windows 7,but before you do you make sure you’ve got everything backed up. You double check and you triple check. And you are pretty sure you’ve got it. So you wipe your drive and install the OS only to find THAT YOU FUCKING FORGOT TO BACKUP YOUR FUCKING BOOKMARKS!
FUCK!
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 26, 2009 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ljungberg writes on
his experience so far in Seattle.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Look who they were playing
you, me, and marc w would look incredible against Blackburn.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blackburn sucked, but I was still mightily impressed by the way Chelsea played.
Every time I watch, Drogba is in his own world, where mortals just can’t tough him. I’ve decided to root for Liverpool, but Chelsea blows my fucking mind.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've decided to root for Liverpool?
Why do you hate yourself?
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait till tomorrow
to see how many beach balls actually make it into the ground.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I'm going to lay this out so I have a reference:
Here’s the deal: I’m new to British soccer. I have no allegiance. I’m looking for a team to root for. Here’s how it went:
1. Chelsea is amazing, but they’re too good. It’s too easy to jump on that train as a newcomer.
2. I don’t want to root for a team that could be relegated.
3. I’ve never so much as stepped a foot in Europe, so I have no allegiance to anything.
4. I wanted to pick a team that was fun to watch and that would be on TV regularly so I could watch.
5. TORRES gives me a boner.
6. Gerrard!
7. They’re on FSC or ESPN almost every weekend.
8. They’re fun to play with in video games.
9. My only friend at work who likes soccer is an Irish guy who is a huge Liverpool supporter, so I have someone to talk soccer with.
10. They’re in a stretch of misery that makes me feel a little better — makes me feel like I’m not jumping on a bandwagon when everything is going well. I’ve established over my lifetime that I enjoy rooting for fuck-ups. This just feels right.
So that’s pretty much it. I’m not a die-hard, and I have yet to tattoo “You’ll Never Walk Alone” onto my chest, but they’re the team I’m leaning toward. I reserve the right to fall in love with another team, and I just well might. But until then, Go Reds!
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I have against Liverpool
is that they stole the FA Cup from Arsenal the only year I actually got to see an FA Cup Final in person. Michael Goddamn Owen can go blow a goat as far as I’m concerned – even though he’s not Liverpool any more. Still. You could do worse than be a Liverpool supporter. But if I ever hear You’ll Never Walk Alone again in person I will cut a bitch.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have something against Liverpool
Carragher
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does seem a little bit weird. Not a very intimidating song. But then maybe that's why I find it great. It's so unexpected.
Teams that I will consider rooting for should my heart turn away from Liverpool:
Chelsea
Arsenal
Man City (Adebayor . . . some boner as Torres)
Stoke City.
So that’s pretty much my list.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go with Stoke
Adebayor can suck the same goat as Owen. Sloppy goat seconds.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I think of Stoke I think of an American Football team with Rory Delap at quarterback
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not too far off
one of my best friends grew up in Stoke which is the only reason I follow them at all, and that’s a pretty apt description. I’m amazed they’re not relegation fodder. And they beat Spurs today so that’s awesome.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even notice that
I was too busy absorbing the fact that the announcers for Chelsea-Blackburn thought that we could have won 10-0 if we were trying to
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is actually true
from the 15 minutes I saw at least. I don’t know how they didn’t score more.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson had an amazing first half
Then Essien broke him.
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw two good saves
is he still England’s #1 at this point?
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh wait he never was
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should plan on taking next June/July off and go to SA
you could probably do as well as any of the England keepers.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a really really really poor soccer goalkeeper
Butterfly just does not work on grass
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'd have to be a really big butterfly to cover that size of a goal
or have really big pads.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hence me being quite bad at it
Nobody nutmegs me though!
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope not
all you’d have to do is stick a skate blade out and they’d be gushing blood in seconds.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'd get to wear pads?
That would make corner kicks hilarious
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be funny to see how far a ball would bounce off a blocker
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Petr Cech should go all out and wear a goalie mask
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's probably pretty easy to sew one to that easter bonnet he currently wears.
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a damn good keeper but I much, much prefer playing in the field.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outfield is much more fun
It’s impossible to make someone look retarded as a goalkeeper
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's much easier to flatten people and get away with it as keeper.
But yeah, I love the free-flowing beauty of the game and I don’t really feel it from in the net… Too much standing around.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's easy to end up looking retarded yourself as a keeper
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by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One goal still haunts me...
A decently hit shot that was headed about 2 feet in from near post so I set up in a crouch to receive it. My defender deflected it slightly about 5 yards out and it just rolled right into the near post past me and for some reason I was just frozen.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can end being the hero or scapegoat very easily.
Have vivid memories of both as someone who played a lot of rec league keeper back in the day.
And on a side note, I’d think the Sounders popular success is at least partly due to our strong rec soccer leagues in the Pac NW, where almost all kids play at an early age.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
10-0 would not have surprised me.
That was just, for at least one day, an incredible mismatch.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Yes, he is.
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by pdb on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certain teams don't, however.
>.<
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 26, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had Michael Essien in the 'What picture will Graham post in the OFFTOP' pool
by marc w on Oct 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a spare ticket for City Vs Chelsea in December if you are randomly in England at that time!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What score are we predicting for Liverpool Vs United tomorrow?
I’m going for a 0-3, with Rafa being sacked on Monday morning!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One of my friends is going to be in the director's box at Anfield for that game
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Gillett?
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We play Fulham and to be honest I'm more looking forward to getting a Balti Pie from the ground than the actual game.
Those pies are immense.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 24, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonights game postponed until tomorrow
so says Joel Sherman.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 24, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised.
I’ve heard intermittent thunder for about half an hour now.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 24, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this post.
Tomorrow will be 3 wks since reg season ended, and Yanks have played 8 games since then #fixthepostseasonsked
by Kermit. on Oct 24, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awww.
Roger Levesque …" he’s everybody’s friend"
by msb on Oct 24, 2009 7:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is what they were saying!
I have a friend who claims Roger is really a golden retriever.
by msb on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaqua has no actual ability
He’s just tall
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's actually got more actual ball skills than I would've thought, but it doesn't matter
when you’re that slow. I mean, it’s not like the league features the world’s fastest players, but he’s a guy whose value is just crushed because he’s just two step slower than anyone.
by marc w on Oct 25, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
S!!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see Zakuani at striker replacing Jaqua for next season.
Improves both positions, as Zakuani seems to be a liability in defense.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do I have a feeling that this is all going to culminate with us being shutout in the MLS Cup Final
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAH WHAT DID FREDDIE SAY?
Heard a definite F bomb there.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Freddie getting his f bomb micced up
awesome
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was absolutely brilliant play by Montero
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Close close close
Game is ours if we want it
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Count me in as a season ticket holder next season, the Sounders have me excited about MLS soccer for the first time ever.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be first in line if I lived in the area.
What an amazing inaugural season.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of which, can someone who's gone to a game tell me about GA seating?
I’m thinking of getting GA season tickets for me and my wife next season, but how are they?
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't sit in GA unless you are prepared to go batshit insane for 90 minutes, are ok with obstructed views and hear stuff that would make a gamethread blush
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like my kind of experience, but I'm not sure my wife would be ok with that.
What’s the best value seats in the house, then?
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking that the Hawks Nest will be a pretty good value
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't have it open for season tix yet... but I'll look for it soon.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is that they will slide the unhappy people in GA over to the Hawks Nest and let the supporters take over the South End.
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a pity, there's been some friction between the hard core supporters and
the Safeco style sports crowd.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just got off the phone with ECS's ticket rep with the Sounders after putting down my deposit for tickets.
Sounds like they are expanding GA to the section above it and are trying to kick out the families so there is less complaining. Awesome.
by Robert on Oct 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they're opening part of the upper bowl for the playoffs, and the Hawks Nest for next season.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if I agree with the upper bowl part
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In small doses, it can be awesome.
Empty seats aren’t great, but I think they can do it right. The demand is high as fuck, from what I can tell.
More noise!
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Hawks had trouble selling out a playoff game in 04 and I worry that we would only sell 50k
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as they don't open it all at once, I'm fine with it.
The Hawks nest is going to be awesome for next season. Definitely going to get some single season tix for there.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God damn it don't give it to Jaqua unless he's three feet away from an empty net
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wing back quality in the MLS is pretty awful though
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a really shitty defender and a decent attacker
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have much of an eye for soccer, but I agree that Riley looks like shit.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same on the soccer eye.
I only started seriously paying attention to professional soccer when the Sounders’ MLS entrance was announced, so I tend for now to trust other’s judgment. Learning fast, though.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll definitely trust the eyes of our resident Briton over mine.
Soccer’s a hard game to assess. I won’t pretend that I know more than I do. But Riley smokes pole.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUC YOU JAQUA WHAT THE FUCK SUCK A GIANT DICK
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck dude
When you’re on a fast break you absolutely do not play crossfield aerial passes
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The MLSnet.com feed is crashing every four minutes.
If I had paid more than pocket change for this service, I’d be furious. What a piece of shit.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JAQUA YESSSSSSSSSS JACQUA DID SOMETHING USEFUL
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes goals are like "oh yeah nice, I've totally scored like that before."
But sometimes they’re like “HOLY SHIT HOW THE FUCK!?”
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT which Sounder cleared that one out?
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FREDY!!!!!!!!!!
I WOULD DO AWFUL AND AMAZING THINGS TO YOU.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know technically, that's a red card
Last man?
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ljungberg is awesome at drawing fouls.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Sounders could give Chelsea a run for their money if only they were given the opportunity.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While we're on the topic, new FIFA or new WE:PES?
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I played the PES demo and had fun, but it's kinda ridiculous.
The new FIFA is incredible.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about this so much, I just want the best soccer experience that's out there right now.
But FIFA seems to have better support anyway.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've had the game 2 days and I can already tell that FIFA is going to surpass NCAA Football 2003 as my most played sports game of all time
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really is fantastic.
The idea of “360 degree dribbling” seems like a stupid marketing ploy, but it it really is amazing. You can feel it. Passing and moving feel so much better than they have in previous soccer games.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crosses are really difficult in the new version though
In FIFA 09 I could score pretty regularly off crosses and corners. This one I only score on those by accident.
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I couldn’t do SHIT with crosses in FIFA 09, and I’m having much better luck in the new game.
In FIFA 09, I couldn’t get a cross or a corner to land withing 20 yards of where I wanted it do. And if I managed to do so, it was right at a defender’s head.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, but the resounding answer is Fifa?
I always owned FIFA but my last soccer game was Winning Eleven 9 and it was better than any FIFAs I ever played.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to only buy a soccer game every two or three years, so I'm no expert . . .
but FIFA has caught and surpassed PES in the past three years. EA simply has the better game. Here or some links to reviews:
I played PES for a while and it’s not awful, but FIFA is just better.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, cool, thanks for the info.
I know it’s been a back-and-forth thing but I wasn’t sure who was leading at this point.
I love lots of games, but sports games draw me in a ton… especially soccer and baseball.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PES was always considered to be the better game when I was growing up.
But EA seems to have turned it on in the past five years. Even the PES loyalists seem to have switched over. EA done good.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, after reading your guys' opinions and looking elsewhere, it looks like FIFA wins out.
I hope Konami steps it up next year, this healthy competition is good for the genre.
by lailaihei on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Konami's effort is what made FIFA the game it is today.
Kudos to them, for sure.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about their basketball games but FIFA, NCAA football, Madden and NHL(from what I hear) have been off the charts.
I know its easy to hate on EA for their complacency and exclusive agreements but when they have a year like this you really have to give them credit.
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
I was never on the “EA is Satan” bandwagon that it seemed everyone on the Internet enjoyed, but I was always skeptical of the intentions of a company that bought out competition. To see EA succeed as they have in the past two years has been incredible.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Pro Evo was the King up until PE 4. Since there Fifa has matched and surpassed it.
That said, both games are good. It’s not like you would buy PE and be devastated, they both have their benefits and flaws.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 25, 2009 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been looking for a pro/con list of both but I can't find it...
But I think if FIFA is getting that much better reviews across the board, I’m probably more likely to enjoy it. MLS is a nice bonus, as well.
by lailaihei on Oct 25, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They used to go straight
Now they swerve like they would in real life
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the swerving, I guess.
Every corner I ever took in FIFA 09 was just a line drive to the defender’s head. I couldn’t get a shot off.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anybody played it on the PC?
I’ve heard mixed things about the PC version and don’t have a 360.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BEST TEAM TO CALL QWEST HOME
LET’S GO SOUNDERS`
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Upon further review Evan's goal was an accident
He mishit the ball and it bounced off his shin
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD DID CAREY REALLY JUST CHEST BUMP PAUL ALLEN???????????????
I LOVE
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You are the one with MLS gamecast and access to Jeff's gifomatic
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you could probably tell from our previous private conversation, I don't know shit about shit
I’m the blind lady you need to lead across the street.
by Teej on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might be a bit early for this topic,
but what do people think of Ljungberg pulling a Beckham and playing 2 months in the EPL during the offseason?
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's gonna do that?
With who?
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, should have clarified that it's merely speculative at this point.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rumors I have heard is that he is going back to Arsenal
by Robert on Oct 24, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not going to happen.
Wenger doesn’t take players back once they leave. there are rumors that Vieira might come back, but even that would surprise me – Freddie doesn’t have the pace or the technique to play at Arsenal any more.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is very good at not shooting though
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arsenal have enough players with that particular skillset thank you
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd be the first team
to play a 2-6-2 and only score 41 goals a season.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pay no attention
to an article that starts “reports have suggested”. What that means is that Sky Sports were having a slow day and decided to invent a “report” “suggesting” that this could happen.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but it was acknowledged he was in London.
Combined with Ljungberg and his agent’s coyness, and it’s not a complete longshot.
by redwolf75 on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what would score more goals
Eight crunching tackle-long ball-no skill defenders with Sutton and Shearer in their primes, or Arsenal with their beautiful flowing football.
Actually I don’t really wonder.
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sutton and Shearer would go all Martin Taylor on Arsenal and break all their legs.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those two combined for like 50 goals one year didn't they?
by Graham on Oct 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did indeed.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
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