The ALCS: A case for rooting for the Yankees
Based upon the game threads over the last week or so, it has been quite clear that this year's version of the ALCS has brought about a heated debate concerning who the average M's fan should root for. Of course, the real nature of this debate is not about who we want to see win, but who we want to see lose. Thus, by pulling for, say, the Yankees, what this action really means is that we're going against the Angels. I was a touch surprised to learn of the results of an October 12 poll, which revealed that 7 out of 10 M's fans were pulling for the Angels. The substance of recent game threads also seems to have reflected this ratio.
I thus find myself drawn to lay out my reasoning for rooting for the downfall of the Angels, with a Yankee triumph being the necessary evil that will bring about that end (I do realize this would have been more timely had I posted it before the series was a possible one game away from completion!):
1. The Yankees are always winning. This is one of the reasons why we despise them in the first place. This constant winning, though, has made us numb. Seeing the Yankees win is nothing unusual; we're used to it. Having to endure an Angels victory, however, is not as easily coped with. Like the immmunization process, a Yankees victory I can handle because I've been exposed to it over and over again. I have not, however, built up a sufficient resistance to Angels victories, and thus such a thing would be much more difficult to digest.
2. Based upon the advanced statistical nature of this website, I'm sure most of us here realize that the Angels play in the same division as us, while the Yankees do not. These division boundaries do not, of course, play a part in the postseason, but their lingering affects cannot be ignored. A regular season victory against the Angels is more valuable than a win against the Yankees because of the direct affect it has on the standings (which were, at least for a while, somewhat important). This divisional setup brings about an element of loathing which can be directed at the Angels, but not the Yankees. The Yankees I despise out of luxury, and the Angels out of necessity.
3. (This point only applies to California residents/anybody who has a friend who's an Angels fan). If 2002 was any indication, if the Angels advance any further, we will never hear the end of it. The world series triumph of 2002 wasn't simply something we were constantly reminded of during 2003; for years afterwards I was told of it. The Angels were always better than my team, I was told, because they won the world series a few years ago (the original notion was, of course, for the most part always true, but the reasoning never quite drilled the point home for me). It took years for people to stop talking about 2002, and I most certainly don't want to invest several more of them recovering from a 2009 Halo triumph. (I realize this point could also be made for Yankees fans, but I imagine there being more M's fans in southern California than New York, and therefore less suffering for M's fans if the Yankees do the winning)
4. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
It is for these reasons that I have, for seven games at least, tossed my hat into the Yankees camp. Neither possible outcome is desirable, but one of these poisons I have found to be the lesser.
Additional thoughts or discrediting of my reasoning are welcome!
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No.
It’s hard to comprehend for west-coasters, but Yankees fans are without a doubt the worst in sports, college or professional. The idea of another World Series victory while I’m still in this part of the country makes me want to regurgitate my spleen.
Let the Yankees burn.
by cwel87 on Oct 21, 2009 7:09 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I lived in CT for a year
and I would say that Red Sox fans are just as bad. And I lived in CT before 2004. They’re both execrable.
I’m personally hoping for a 7-game thriller of a series that the Phillies win in the top of the 9th at Yankee Stadium with a Raul Ibanez 3-run home run.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose a west coast version of this post could be created
with the names of the teams being swapped at several strategic spots.
by apunetid on Oct 21, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I mean east coast version.
A mere 5 hours it took me to notice my mistake!
by apunetid on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I visited Seattle frequently
And have been to California for baseball for a smattering of series. Angels fans are idiots, but they’re nothing more then really annoying. Yankees fans are abrasive, loud-mouthed guido assfucks.
by cwel87 on Oct 21, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey nice use of outdated language there.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 22, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't give a shit about Angels fans
fuck the Angels
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Red Sox fans are the worst human beings in the history of human beings.
by TheTank123 on Oct 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been to 10+ games in both Fenway and Yankee Stadium
There is no comparison. Yankees fans are so much worse.
by cwel87 on Oct 21, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I am taking the names of everyone who voted Angels in the poll and reassigning them to Halos Heaven
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions 11 recs
Oh dear lord no.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Oct 21, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You weren't supposed to vote anyways.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hells yes.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 21, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
by gregrabble on Oct 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So....
does that mean Dave is about to be exiled? Or does he get out on the technicality of just wanting to see more baseball?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 25, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh....
Yeah, I mean it would be something to see, but every Yankees fan I know is obnoxious. Some of them are actually quite knowledgeable and can carry on conversations about the game for long stretches, but they’re still obnoxious. To see them all come out of the woodwork would be a headache for me.
The ALCS has left us with no desirable outcome, so I think I’ll just root for whoever comes out on top in the NL.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 21, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is really what I've done
I say fuck ’em both. But really fuck the Yankees.
by cwel87 on Oct 21, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Phillies fans become like Red Sox fans if they win back to back World Series?
by Decatur on Oct 22, 2009 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are not as numerous and Philly for some reason avoids the hype that New York and Boston seem to generate.
by Mariner John on Oct 22, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proximity.
Some people call Philly the sixth borough. I’ve known a few of them who have moved from there and never looked back. It’s hard to get all uppity about being the best when you have an even more uppity neighbor who beats you in nearly every category.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 25, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been rooting for the Yankees the whole time (in the ALCS) because I do not hate any team more than the Angels
Plain and simple.
by Fett42 on Oct 21, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not that I don't hate any team more than the Angels
I don’t hate any thing as much as I hate the Angels
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
even Temecula?
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's actually one other thing I hate more than the Angels besides Temecula
but that’s slightly besides the point
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping for a Nixon-esque Bruin Enemies List
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must make you have some very confusing feelings.
It’s okay, SB. You don’t have to run.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Oct 21, 2009 10:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels are the only team in baseball I hate.
Everyone else is just background music with varying degrees of annoyance.
by Teej on Oct 21, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing will piss of the yankee fans more than it will piss of the angels fans!
Yankees must lose!
by ARock on Oct 21, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was brought up with a "Beat LA" mindset.
As a Giants fan, you root against the Dodgers, plain and simple.
As a Mariners fan, you root against the Angels, plain and simple.
While the Yankees are irksome, it’s not going to bring around an increase in Yankee pride if they win. If they don’t win, they’ll remain smug bastards, convinced they’ll win next year. Might as well mitigate the damage and keep the egos of Los Angeles fans in check.
And. Death to Rally Monkey.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 21, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Because the Angels are our division rivals
By rooting for your division rivals you are basically admit that you are ok with playing second fiddle.
by Robert on Oct 21, 2009 9:00 AM PDT reply actions 15 recs
if I could rec this a million times I would
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So THAT'S what Jeff's doing in this picture...

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 21, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ever since the advent of the wild card *every* team is our rival
If the Yankees play poorly this year, we’re right in the WC hunt
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going with a purely baseball standpoint
Any time a postseason series is played against the Angels, well I wouldn’t know because that’s only happened once for a single game and we raped them. Any time a postseason series is played against the Yankees, they’ve beaten us. And it continues to piss me off.
by cwel87 on Oct 21, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this decade*
Obviously, 1995 is the exception to this. But recent demons are the ones that hurt the most.
by cwel87 on Oct 21, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh...
you remember ‘95 playoff run against the Angels but forget it for the Y*nkees, but I get the point – the ’01 loss was more recent and still hurt(s).
I lean toward angels in this series as the lesser of two evils – the Y*nkees always seem to win and do so by spending the most, their fans and players have an annoying sense of entitlement, Arod plays for the Yankees, all the other Y*nkees also play for the Y*nkees, the Y*nkees are the baseball equivalent of the L*kers (yes, even though the Angels are from SoCal), and the Angels are the underdog and get some respect for the AL West if they win the series. Again, this is the lesser of two evils and I’m sick of seeing these two evil teams in the playoffs seemingly every year, but I can never bring myself to root for the Y*nkees against anyone.
by sfiles on Oct 25, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still like your and Katal's comments the best.
They pretty much covered it in my book.
by Kermit. on Oct 25, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are more reasons for me to cheer for LAA.
And they are as follows. I’m operating under the assumption that the winner of the American League pennant will also win the World Series.
1. The yankees have caused me more heartache than the Angels have.
2. The Angels have had a grand total of one World Series victory. Even if LAA wins it again this year, I can still conceivably see the Mariners one day passing them in terms of how many W.S. they have won. Not so much with NY.
3. It would be really funny to me if Alex Rodriguez never wins a World Series ring.
4. An Angel team that wins the World Series enters the offseason relatively complacent. I like this more than an Angels team that loses to the yankees and decides to throw large sums of money at free agents in order to have a better shot next year.
On the other hand, the only reason I can see to cheer for the yankees is that a NYY victory will lead to renewed cries of “they buy all their talent!” This will push the concept of implementing a salary cap that much closer to fruitation.
by katal on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions 9 recs
Right because the Angels having 100% more championships is clearly preferable to the Yankees having 4% more championships
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Yankees win because then
they’ll have to change all their stadium signage, letterhead, business cards, and corporate swag to “27 world championships” which will cost them a lot of money.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should say "to read "27 world championships" "
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is pure unadulterated pimp shit.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 21, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been struggling with this to
Point 4 is the tripping point for me. What result is most likely to help the Mariners short term and long term?
Looking long term, I think the best we could hope for would be the Angels signing a Barry Zito like FA contract that just hoses them. What makes that most likely?
My guess is a WS appearance and a 4-3 series loss. Next best would be a 4-3 loss to the Yankees. In both cases conventional wisdom would say “we’re just one piece away” which might make the Angels more likely to drop big dollars on bad FA.
So, my preference, in order (most preferred at the top):
Angels lose close WS
Angels lose close ALCS
Angels blown out in WS
Angels blown out in ALCS
Aramgeddon
Angels win WS
I guess that means I’m rooting for the Angels in this round.
by PDXTai on Oct 21, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They let Washburn walk.
They aren’t that retarded.
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by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concerning helping the Mariners long term, one other point that can be considered
is the additional revenue a world series appearance might bring to the Angels.
by apunetid on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Also winning another championship further cements their reputation as a team that can win, making it easier for them to lure some free agents.
And consider that we play the Angels at least twice as many times as we play the Yankees every year, meaning their success has a greater impact on our playoff chances.
by OlSalty on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never voted and never will...
I seriously cannot choose between these two evils. Literally both of them are equal.
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish both can lose.
I guess the best thing to do is hope the NL wins the WS, that way both teams lose.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
by Fin on Oct 21, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only people at LL who aren't rooting for the Yankees got butthurt by the Ducks and are now projecting their hate onto the Angels
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Heaven forbid someone have an independent thought!
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
I could care less about hockey.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 21, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am disappointed this didn't end with me banned for posting the own goal gif
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to force you to do things.
Unless we change your password again and imposter you.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sentence doesn't make sense
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 21, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like anything Poochie types does...
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 21, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The beginning of this sentence seems to say the very opposite of what was intended
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 21, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I enjoy how long it took for you to figure this out.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 21, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK THE ANGELS
FUCK THE YANKEES
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 21, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You are just the cutest.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Oct 21, 2009 10:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I actually admire the Yankees. They have tradition and deserve respect for all they have achieved. The Angels have the Rally Monkey and Rex Hudler.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 21, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tradition is for assholes that wish they were as good as they used to be.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Like DC United!
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Oct 21, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One of the main things I despise about the Yankees and their fanbase
is their insistence on calling it the Stadium, capitalized. Like there’s only one “stadium” in baseball. Get over your damn selves.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
I’ve seen it in a lot of print media, most notably the NYT, but a lot of people just call it “The Stadium”. It grates on me more than almost anything else Yankee-related.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny.
I despise the fact that they breathe air that could be put to better use being befouled by some rodent passing gas.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's like an abbreviation, like when we call Safeco "the Field".
Wait a minute, we never do that!
by apunetid on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because Safeco has no real history of note and the Mariners as a franchise have blown donkey dick.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 21, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought San Francisco referred to itself as The City?
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is also annoying
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get up in arms about that.
Everywhere does it. When I lived outside of Philly, “the city” was Philly. In Joliet, Chicago. Hell, I heard it once or twice in High School in rural OR talking about Portland.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the referral, it's the capitalization
Capitalization implies that it’s the most important, or the best, or the only. I use “the city” when I’m talking about things that are in downtown Portland vs. in the suburbs, but I wouldn’t ever use The City.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, see, that's fine!
“the city” should refer to the nearest metro area.
I lived for 4 years in Philly surrounded by Long Islanders who refused to stop referring to New York as “the City”
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like anybody from Port Washington had ever even been to NYC in the first place
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aha.
I never made that distinction. I just figured they were talking about the city nearest.
I can see how that would get annoying, though.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or nearest city, even.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't know as I generally avoid talking or overhearing people from SanFran talk
for reasons that violate a site rule.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Don't be mean, unless you're Graham?"
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't specify current, and it allowed me to keep the thread going with semi-witty banter.
Win-Win!
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbBEfZ8fK9Y
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phildopip on Oct 21, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well
some people refer to Safeco as just “The Safe”—like it’s the only safe in the world! So…same thing, really.
by Liebkartoffel on Oct 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A case for rooting for the Yankees: you want to
A case for rooting for the Angels: you want to.
I am surprised by how much attention this is getting for an argument that has not a single rational point attached to it.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
WHERE'S YOUR POPULIST OUTRAGE AND SLAVISH ATTACHMENT TO GROUPTHINK?
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I left it behind in 15th century Europe.
If anyone finds it, can I have it back?
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
next time I'm on a crusade I'll pick it up for you.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before or after slaughtering pagans?
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those pagan parties are fantastic.
by royalcurve on Oct 21, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slaughter with one hand, harvest with the other
multitasking!
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...like you'll be able
to find much populist outrage five hundred years before the dawn of populism on another continent. sniggers irritatingly </history nerd>
by Liebkartoffel on Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken but there's no need for the racial slur
by OlSalty on Oct 21, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit.
That was one hell of an unfortunate typo.
by Liebkartoffel on Oct 21, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of the playoffs with two teams that are despised, it doesn't seem that "rational" needs to come into play
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure sports fandom is not rational pretty much ever
which is why I find it entertaining.
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well no, it's not. But often this blog centers around statistical analysis, which can at least be rational
However, there is no point in trying to set out a rational argument over who one should support in these playoffs. I don’t think this fanpost was meant to be rational, full of numbers and stats. Which is why I don’t understand why Matthew seems so surprised that there are no rational arguments here.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Oct 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a general point, not a specific one to this fanpost.
This is like the sixth long thread about whether people should be rooting for the Yankees or Angels and people seem so serious about it.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm not bemoaning the lack of rational arguments.
I’m just saying there can’t be rational arguments. It’s a debate that exists entirely outside of rationality.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to start rooting for the Red Sox next year
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll get you a pink hat!
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a baby blue one if he wants it
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favourite article of sports clothing is my Pittsburgh Steelers onesie from my childhood
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should have saved this for a reply to Robert
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually prefer leaving things as little mines for him to find
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would have worked better if you hadn't already told me.
Geeh whiz bud have you been off your game lately.
by Robert on Oct 21, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear god I have a Red Sox hat displayed in my house
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting wound up about that sort of thing is an irrational thing to do
Please refrain from posting about irrational things on this entirely rational site
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish it were last year so I could root for the Cubs again
by Poochie on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all make the irrational decision of caring about baseball more than is healthy
Why does anything written here get any attention at all?
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Jeff and Matthew are very talented writers
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, he's posted 4 articles in the last 4 days!
by Taylor H on Oct 21, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's the James Michener of LL
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Why do we even exist?
I work here: http://tinyurl.com/yfxlyhh
by Taylor H on Oct 21, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This subthread is about to go somewhere not good or hilarious
does anyone know how to summon AK1984??
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume a bell would alert him to your presence.
Although there is no door here so I’m not sure how it’d work.
by Mariner John on Oct 21, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss that magnificent bastard.
by Liebkartoffel on Oct 21, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do too, actually.
LL is a hell of a drug.
by marc w on Oct 21, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We exist because if we didn't there'd be nobody to talk about beer
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if people didn't exist, who would make the beer for us to talk about?
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU'VE JUST BLOWN MY MIND
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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because we often apply rationality to the subject.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So? That's not a good reason to care about baseball.
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to explain why people care about baseball.
You asked why anything we write here gets any attention. The above is my theory.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My theory is that it gets attention due to people caring irrationally about the Mariners.
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you are surprised that an emotive debate is getting attention when everything you do is based on people being a fan of the Mariners
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arguments with no rational background usually don't last as long as this one has around here
or else people would bitch a lot more than they do about things like batting order.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has no implicit 'the Mariners would be better if' attached
by Graham on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of it does:
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/10/21/1093975/the-alcs-a-case-for-rooting-for#23137798
But aside from that, I’m not seeing your argument.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to start a website called fucktheangels.com
it could serve more than one purpose.
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you heavily link it to HaloHeaven.com
you might end up getting caught in a child porn ring.
by Matthew on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
All the more reason to hate the LALALALAs more???

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Second it.
Both the Yankees and Angels can suck it.
by chezbergrur on Oct 23, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Henry Kissinger said
of the Iran-Iraq war; “It’s a pity they can’t both lose.”
However, since they can’t, that leaves me with a rooting interest. The Angels were kind enough to run Boston out of the ALDS in brisk fashion, and Red Sox fans are about even with Yankee fans for pure obnoxiousness.
But the bottom line is that, while I dislike the Angels for being an irritating team;. I’d root for Al Qaeda if they were playing the Yankees.
And no matter who wins what, it has pretty much no difference to what happens in our division next year, other than the off chance that they overwork a pitcher or two; or give Lackey an inflated sense of his own value so that he goes elsewhere in free agency. And really, what would be so bad about that?
"Get offa my lawn!"
by Greybear on Oct 22, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay. I have a rooting interest now...
I want the Angels to force things to game 7 so that no matter which team wins, it’ll cause more wear and tear (cough risk of devastation cough) on them and they’ll be weakened enough to be at a disadvantage in the World Series…
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 22, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Being on the East Coast
I was crushed LAA couldn’t get it done
It’s tougher to have the hatred for LAA when you have virtually no exposure to their fanbase, which is the biggest reason most here seem to hate them
Formerly Mariners124M... Username was sorta bland, so I'm changin it up
by BQueezy on Oct 26, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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