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Texas Rangers at Seattle Mariners, Oct 2, 2009 7:10 PM PDT


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Texas Rangers @ Seattle Mariners

10/02/09 7:10 PM PDT

Texas Rangers Seattle Mariners
Julio Borbon - CF Ichiro Suzuki - RF
Michael Young - 3B Franklin Gutierrez - CF
David Murphy - LF Jose Lopez - 2B
Marlon Byrd - RF Ken Griffey Jr. - DH
Ian Kinsler - 2B Adrian Beltre - 3B
Chris Davis - DH Mike Carp - 1B
Andruw Jones - 1B Adam Moore - C
Taylor Teagarden - C Michael Saunders - LF
Omar Vizquel - SS Josh Wilson - SS

Ian Snell

#48 / Pitcher / Seattle Mariners

5-11

200

R

R

Oct 30, 1981

Brandon McCarthy

#20 / Pitcher / Texas Rangers

6-7

205

R

R

Jul 07, 1983

So Andruw Jones has been a pile of crap for months.

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Second place! Second place!

Let’s do it!!

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Oct 2, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We can't...

Even with a sweep.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay Pidgin Toe!

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 2, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pidgins don't have toes.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's racist.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 2, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(sigh)

Pidgin, via Wikipedia

I don’t see any other linguists on duty at the moment.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that where Snell picked up his bad habits?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 2, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last night was my Beltre appreciation night.

My last Mariner game for the year. He hit a HR for me. As he was rounding the bases, I screamed “SIGN WITH THE ANGELS!”. I am hoping that, through the din, the message was received subliminally.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 2, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahaha

Betancourt’s RBI single is a highlight.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh
Jose Lopez has been selected as the Mariners’ candidate to receive the 2009 Heart and Hustle Award
…
Previous winners are Indians center fielder Grady Sizemore (2008), former Astros star Craig Biggio (2006 and ’07) and shortstop David Eckstein (2005).

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He played through tragedy!

Well…around tragedy.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game Pulse?

What will MLB.com think of next…

by ThundaPC on Oct 2, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

K!

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eli Whiteside?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ian Snell?

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Oct 2, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Reegie Corona

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 2, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I guess not the Corona part.

But REEGIE

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 2, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we rooting for a loss?

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Oct 2, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Omar Vizquel's going to do it in the offseason.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh?

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spill it.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing real concrete

I’m just less optimistic than I was this morning

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

=(

I think I’m gonna have to sneak into some great seats on Sunday then.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank Jesus I'll be there

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no no no no no no no no no no

:(

Fuck the Angels! And the Yankees and Red Sox while we're at it.

by urchman on Oct 2, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.

>:-(

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zduriencik is going to be lynched if this happens.

And I’ll be there to help. I have no rationality on this topic.

by Teej on Oct 2, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would depend upon return and destination.

Impact is mitigated if he goes somewhere I can still love him.

by acblue on Oct 2, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But is it still worth it to trade him?

Obviously a team that intends to resign him is going to be willing to give up more in return, especially since we aren’t in a situation where we can’t compete before he’s eligible for FA.

by acblue on Oct 2, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess what I am saying is that the odds of getting what you want

are lower if the team you are trading him to isn’t going to resign him right away.

by acblue on Oct 2, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but look at what the Cardinals gave up for Holliday

They still think its 1997. Its not unprecedented.

by Poochie on Oct 2, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

It might happen, I’m just not optimistic that it would.

by acblue on Oct 2, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Holliday was resigning

We’d know by now!
Welcome to Boston, Matt!

by Poochie on Oct 2, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GMZ could always hang onto him to see what's going on with contracts.

Prices have been coming down haven’t they? Or maybe not for big time players like Feliz. And the disappearing test is annoying. Probably a typo in there.

by Kermit. on Oct 2, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can be completely rational on this topic

after losing RJ, Griffey an A-Rod in three striaght years losing Felix ain’t nothin

by Poochie on Oct 2, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same deal.

And the bigger issue is that Felix came along after the internet. I heard about him when he was in AA. I’ve been following him all the way through his development and following closely. And now, when he FINALLY fucking becmomes the pitcher we thought he could be, he might be leaving.

At least we got to see R.J., Griffey and (to a lesser extent) A-Rod be great for a few years and go to the playoffs.

by acblue on Oct 2, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you think of a package that a team could offer to make us better without Felix?

There are a limited amount of teams that will/can trade for Felix and I can’t put together any reasonable package in my head that makes us better in 2010.
But I’m pretty stupid so who knows!

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm trying to offer little of my own opinion and get you to start something.

Nobody here is gonna rosterbate… but nobody will mind if you do.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But all I know are names and abilities

I don’t know shit about who’s realistic.

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot

I’d try to get one ready or close-to-ready player at a problem position, as well as a pretty good young starter.

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And also what teams have a need for 2 years of an ace like Felix

Who also have enough prospects or kinds of players GMZ likes to make it worth it.
For example, the Angels could definitely use Felix, but they couldn’t get him.

We can narrow down the teams a bit this way.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no way they give up Heyward and McCann.

But if GMZ was offered that he would probably say yes before running any numbers.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying if some one asks who I'm intersted in

I give them a list of names. It’s not like you’re asking for anything specific, its just testing the waters

by Poochie on Oct 2, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, true.

Atlanta is an interesting target, though, I hadn’t thought of them before this thread.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee and Baltimore are NOT in the mix for Felix.

Tampa Bay is possible, but how often have you seen them trade away highly talented players since Friedman took over?
I’m not seeing the New York connection. Braves are a possibility but I don’t think they have the depth in their system to be trading for Felix at this point.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not

The Brewers have that Furcal clone, the Orioles have Wieters. You’d at least give them a call

by Poochie on Oct 2, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orioles are not going to trade Wieters, they are not thinking about competing in 2010/2011.

And trading Wieters doesn’t make sense at all, anyway.
Alcides Escobar is valued by the Brewers way more than any independent scouts or other orgs seem to, we wouldn’t get a great value for him.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not cranky...

I’m trying to tell you that Felix is going to cost a team a shit ton of talent, and most teams aren’t willing to give up 3-win major league players or future all-stars that are still under club control for 5+ years.
If we make a deal, it’s probably going to be a very fine young major leaguer (like Buchholz) and 3-4 B to B+ prospects.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is by no means a guarantee that he's gone by the way

Still a great shot he re-signs. But keep on your toes. And don’t pay heed to any suspect information that may be floating around. You should know by now who to trust and who to ignore.

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we trust you?

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Oct 2, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

All the good/reliable stuff from elsewhere is linked on here anyway.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth on Oct 2, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean

Boston’s leaked trade proposal wasn’t ominous enough?

by ThundaPC on Oct 2, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's going to the Angels, right?

Shoot me now.

Fuck the Angels! And the Yankees and Red Sox while we're at it.

by urchman on Oct 2, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

I was just trying to imagine the worst possible place for him to sign. This way, I’ll feel relieved when it’s some other team.

Fuck the Angels! And the Yankees and Red Sox while we're at it.

by urchman on Oct 2, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moores liked him.

And he seems like a smart enough dude. Some curious moves, but some good ones too. And pretty much fourteen dollars to work with. I don’t know. I’m kind of happy for him. He’ll probably get a better job.

by Teej on Oct 2, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never been too down on him

I just can’t believe a GM with that record lasted as long as he did.

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it took a new owner to do it.

I imagine Moorad wants his own peoples.

by Teej on Oct 2, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red is present

(link, image too big)

by Jeff on Oct 2, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Twins!

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOAFIE!

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

... buy me officially licensed caps ...

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Oct 2, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

CONDOR

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're winning.

I forgot the game was still on…

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn!

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Oct 2, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that's why I said pretty much

Goodness

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he is, that is not relevant to my statement

I said lately. I think he’s had a really good year all around

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he's a little over 80% in hold/save situations? That doesn't seem awful.

Thats not how we evaluate people here anyway, but it doesn’t seem awful even by traditional standard.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could you tell me what's the name of this percentage?

Where a middle reliever comes in and doesn’t blow the lead. (I didn’t know how to find it). Thank you.

by Sam Regens on Oct 2, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, I thought that might be it but

was doubting my eyes when I checked up Nellie’s numbers from 2001.
26 holds, 4 saves, 1 BSv

And Rhodes was 31 holds, 3 saves, 4 Bsv

And both Nellie and Rhodes didn’t blow a single hold situation in 2001 out of 57 chances.

No wonder I thought I had the wrong stats. And no wonder I miss them. Jeez awesome.

Two guys like those could be the difference between us now and postseason playas.

by Sam Regens on Oct 2, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminiscing, yay!

While you’re at it, do you have any interesting stories about 1995? People don’t talk about that team enough.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth on Oct 2, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't read poetry

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fact that it's called The Double: A Petersburg Poem threw me

Since I didn’t know what you were referring to and was forced to Google it

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fucker

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yaydrian

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anticlimactic

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Darn

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh God Beltre's leaving

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullshit

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I am one of them

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Because I rec’d it.

by Kermit. on Oct 2, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So watching the best 3B in baseball for a few years has been really entertaining.

What is the most fun position to watch a top defender at?
I think it could be 3B, but I’m undecided.

by lailaihei on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No extras.

What're ya gonna do with those pies, boys?

by rickpo on Oct 2, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay bullpen

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Oct 2, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs