Kenji and the Mariners
In late 2005, the Mariners found a solution to one of their more pressing problems: catcher. The season just prior saw Dan Wilson's career come to an end, Miguel Olivo fail to do much of anything as the supposed starter, and no fewer than five other catchers catching games for the team. Frankly, it was a bit of a mess.
Kenji Johjima fixed those problems. He gave the Mariners a legitimately above average starting major league catcher, and he did it for cheap. There was no need for protracted negotiations: a token visit to New York was the only indication that there was any interest on his part in other teams. He basically fell into Bill Bavasi's lap for the low cost of $5M dollars a year for three years, which was probably the best contract that Bavasi gave out with the team.
2005 saw seven catchers; 2006 featured three, and Guillermo Quiroz only got one game in. Johjima started 144 games and hit well, and not just for a hitter: .291/.332/.451 as a right hander in Safeco Field was by far the best offensive showing the Mariners had ever seen out of catcher. He went against the Dan Wilson grain behind the plate too, standing out with a bright red glove and a tendency to call pitches just to prove a point. Still, he wasn't a liability defensively (although he wasn't nearly as fluid as Wilson), and his bat went a long way in a season where not much else went right.
The Mariners won 88 games in 2007, a ten game improvement, but Johjima's numbers barely changed. He caught a few less games, hit for a little less power, but was basically the same above-average hitter that we'd enjoyed in the previous year. We were starting to take him for granted, too, and with Jeff Clement waiting in the wings perhaps forgot that our newest Japanese import had produced six WAR in two years.
2008 should probably have marked the end of his time with the Mariners, and it didn't start well, for the team or for Kenji. Crucial players got hurt, others fell apart, and Johjima managed a little bit of both, playing in many fewer games and battling a number of nagging injuries. His offensive numbers collapsed, and his relationship with the pitching staff grew ever more frayed. On top of that, he was signed to a three year, $24M extension that was so insane even Bill Bavasi didn't like it. Clement, meanwhile, was annihilating the PCL. To the team and fans, Johjima quickly became a liability.
Let's make no bones about it, 2008 absolutely sucked. He was barely above replacement for the season, which is impressive considering how low the bar is set for catchers, and he was part of the reason that the Mariners plummeted to a dismal 61-101 record. But perhaps it's worth remembering that over the first three years of the deal, Johjima provided almost $25M in value to the franchise in addition to the benefits of increased exposure in Japan. Kenji was an extremely valuable player over those first three years.
He was actually not too bad this year, either, managing 1 WAR in 71 games. But he had lost the confidence of the fans as well as his manager and his pitchers, and nothing short of a miraculous performance was going to bring those back. The starting catcher job grabbed hold of Rob Johnson and wouldn't put him down, and Kenji was left as an $8M backup catcher on a team which desperately needed the money. Others can give you more information about the details of Kenji's pitch calling vs. Rob's, but I'd fairly confidently say that Johjima was the best catcher on the roster in 2009, and had a good shot at repeating that feat in 2010 until he opted out of the deal a few hours ago.
It's wonderful news that Kenji is no longer on the books as far as the rebuilding effort goes. But don't forget what an excellent acquisition he was in the first place, or the years of good service he gave to the Mariners. To give up the money when he didn't have to was a wonderful thing for Johjima to do, and I hope he finds employment in Japan and has many more years of baseball ahead of him.
Thank you, Kenji Johjima. Thank you for both your time as a Mariner and the graciousness you showed in ending it.
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I find it to be rather big of Kenji to realize that he's not the player he used to be and call it quits without costing the team anything more.
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by JLProck on Oct 19, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well hopefully Kenji can inspire, ahem, *others*
by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? Johnson's salary isn't hurting the team.
In fact, at this point, there isn’t a single position player whose contract is hurting the team’s flexibility (maybe Wilson – maybe). Silva’s the only guy I can think of who doesn’t deserve the money he’ll be paid next year.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 19, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he just wanted to go back home?
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by baetown415 on Oct 20, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure that played a big part in his decision-making process.
But he also could’ve been motivated by the vast amounts of money he was going to collect over the next two seasons and decided to stay. How many other foreign-born players do you think would’ve done the same thing as Kenji?
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by JLProck on Oct 20, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just one....?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by baetown415 on Oct 20, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can probably make good money at home, too, though.
If he’s looking at two years/$16 million here or two years/$10 million at home, I have no problem believing that his desire to be with his family and be back in his home country is important enough to take the pay cut.
If he’s being an honorable guy, great, but I’m not convinced that he didn’t make the decision that was in his best interests.
by Teej on Oct 20, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really liked Kenji...I'm gonna miss him.
Plus I hate, hate, hate Rob Johnson. It’s a good financial move, but it still makes me sad.
by SethGrandpa on Oct 19, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy trails, Kenji.
Easily the best catcher in franchise history.
by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean behind Dan Wilson
Wilson from ‘95 to ’98 played in 501 games, totaled -8.2 wRAA, played amazing defense, and by what I’ve hear/read/remember, called good games.
Kenji from ’06 to ’09 played in 462 games, totaled -23.1 wRAA, played good defense, and by all accounts was less than average at calling games.
by CMC_Stags on Oct 19, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenji's peak>Wilson's peak.
You don’t get to include Kenji’s decline phase w/o including Wilson’s protracted death rattle.
Kenji’s 1st two years were better than Wilson’s peak 2 years, and that’s what I’m referring to. No one here thinks Johjima’s 2008 was anything but shit-tastic.
(Not sure Wilson’s defense was ever actually ‘amazing’ or different in any measurable aspect to Johjima’s. Joh wins on CS%, Wilson wins on PB/WP)
by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depending on how much stock you put into Rally's WAR Database
Wilson was worth 2.7 wins in 1995, 3.3 wins in 1996 and 1997, 2.0 in 2001 and 1.7 in 2002. Kenji was at 3.3 in 2006 and 2.7 in 2008. Wilson’s decline was painful to watch, and he was a legitimately bad player from 1998-2000, but I’m not as convinced as I might have been before that Johjima’s peak MLB years were better than Wilson’s.
by acblue on Oct 19, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His rookie year was better then anything Wilson ever did
by Poochie on Oct 19, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson's WAR total matched Kenji's rookie year twice.
by acblue on Oct 19, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based oon the data we have, I'm comfortable calling Kenji's 2006 the best season ever by a Mariner catcher
However, Wilson was a good player from 95-97, 01-02. Wilson had a longer peak, and, at the same time, it’s pretty reasonable to assume Kenji was the better player.
by Poochie on Oct 19, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Kenji’s WAR in ‘06 and ’07 doesn’t include a better CS%. At the plate it’s almost a push, and Joh’s got the better CS%. It’s purely down to how much you value Wilson’s longevity and PB preventions skills.
by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenji was easily the better hitter at his peak, but I don't know how to evaluate defense properly
by Poochie on Oct 19, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't either, but it's pretty tough to see Wilson as the clear winner there...
from a statistical standpoint, at least. Pitchers seemed to like Wilson more, though that’s a bit nebulous.
by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just not entirely convinced that this is true.
Look at their wOBAs in the context of the offensive environment during their respective peak seasons;
Wilson:
1996- .334/.335 league average
1997- .331/.332 league average
Kenji:
2006- .338/.332 league average
2007- .327/.331 league average
So yeah, 2006 Kenji was the best offensive season between the two, but his overall numbers those two years weren’t that much better and both of Wilson’s peak seasons were better than his 2007.
If you told me I could have those two seasons from either guy, yeah, I’d probably take Kenji, but it’s not a complete and total slam-dunk, either. Wilson was a legitimately very very good player at his peak.
by acblue on Oct 20, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always forget that Fangraphs doesn't do that because it is so weird.
So yeah, in that case Kenji definitely looks a lot better. And I think that if you could include Kenji’s actual peak seasons that came in Japan he’s clearly the better player. But I still don’t think Kenji was heads-and-shoulders better during their respective MLB peaks.
by acblue on Oct 20, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at his wOBA* in 2006 and see if you still believe that
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Dan Wilson's OPS+ in his best season was 96
Assuming his wOBA+ would be similar (seems reasonable) and a baseline of .349 wOBA (2006 average), Kenji’s rookie year beats his best season by about 40 points.
Johjima: .372 wOBA*
Wilson: ~.335 wOBA*
The average catcher season is something in the realm of 550ish PA, so that gap is worth almost 18 runs. There is no way Dan Wilson was 18 runs better defensively than Kenji Johjima. None. Being generous to the pro-Dan argument, Kenji’s best season was worth almost a win more than Wilson’s best.
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again, if you use FanGraphs' wOBA
.334 for Wilson, .338 for Johjima, and park adjust each, and use the better estimate of 500 PAs for catchers (and even that is probably generous for an average), you get about a 7-run difference.
I don’t think Wilson’s defense overcomes that gap, and I think it’s correct to say that Johjima’s 2006 was the best catcher season in Ms history, I do think the gap is small.
by Matthew on Oct 20, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
542 and 540 PA for Johjima and Wilson respectively in 06 and 96
Also why would you use Fangraph’s wOBA when SCs makes more sense and park-adjusts better?
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also why ignore the fact that league OBP was .11 higher for 1996 than 2006, thus skewing wOBA?
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So use 1997, which had a league average OBP of .340
to 2006’s .339.
Wilson’s wOBA in that year was .331, so roughly 96% of league average OBP after park. Joh’s at about 102% after similar manipulation.
Over 550 PA, that’s about nine runs. But who’s to say that’s precise since I had to introduce the assumption of comparison to lgOBP which I think is shaky ground.
by Matthew on Oct 20, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said average catcher season.
You didn’t say average PA for those two.
Because SC doesn’t cover Dan Wilson, that’s why. Mixing site numbers is bad form.
by Matthew on Oct 20, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't mean you can't do it, you just assume that an OPS+ of 96 is equivalent to a wOBA+ of 96
OPS and wOBA are accurate enough that that’s not a shaky assumption at all.
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because assumptions can be wrong and why assume when you have the numbers available?
Here’s Wilson’s 1995-97 wOBA+s (non park adjusted): 98, 97, 100
Kenji’s park adjusted bRAA was 10.4 in 1996. Wilson’s non park adjusted figure in ’97 is 0. The Kingdome would knock that down a touch, but not that much since it looks like park factors range between 98 and 102 for that period.
With error, I would conclude that you could reasonable say Kenji was 7-14 runs better than Wilson with the bat
by Matthew on Oct 20, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So using that Kenji is about 20 runs better batting 2006-2007 than Wilson is 1996-1997
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake. I skipped over that word.
by Matthew on Oct 20, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway
Using 7-14 runs at peak as the batting differential you have to assume that Wilson was +7 runs with the glove to get any overlap at all, which would be my definition of ‘close’.
Kenji Johjima is by most numbers I’ve seen a pretty damn good defensive catcher. Is it possible that Wilson was +7 on him? I don’t see it, considering that Dan never managed to throw out guys at Kenji’s rate. They’re probably more or less equal neglecting nebulous things like pitch calling.
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah; Wilson had the edge in PB/WP
but you’d need to normalize that for each pitcher, and I’m not going to do that.
I’d say Wilson wins by a run or three in that department, but it’s not enough.
by marc w on Oct 20, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nero is Felix's agent as well, no?
Maybe he persuaded Kenji to leave so we’d have more money for Felix. ; )
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by Coach Owens on Oct 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You did good Kenji
He deserves all the respect in Seattle for walking away without costing us anything.
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by OceanBird on Oct 19, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My sentiments exactly...
It’s a win-win move for all involved. He was a good player, huge value-wise at first, but going forward wasn’t going to be able to help as much as he’d like. Shows he’s a very dignified person for whom there are more important things in life than money.
If Drayer’s report is correct, the Hanshin contract could balance out a lot of what he gives up, financially, with the Mariners.
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 19, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What a legend! I reckon that this is an expected move from a Japanese player
There is no honour in hanging around in the team purely for the money (Carlos – I’m looking at you). Kenji has done the honourable thing.
If Ichiro starts to fall off near the end of his contract, I fully expect him to pull the same sort of play.
Japanese players dominate.
by pakipaki on Oct 19, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Almost brings a tear to my eye
I hope he has a few more dominant years in Japan, behind the plate and at it.
by appleshampoo on Oct 19, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll miss you Kenji.
I’ll instantly become of a fan of whatever team he signs with.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rob Johnson has taken everything I loved away from me.
You got slurved!
by Slurvey on Oct 19, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing left for you but revenge.
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by JLProck on Oct 20, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye bye Kenji.
Thanks for the awesome two years, and thanks for ultimately helping the team out in the end like this. That’s pretty damn awesome.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Goose on Oct 19, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Best catcher this decade
And it’s not even close. Thanks Kenji.
by CMC_Stags on Oct 19, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam Moore in '10
The line starts here.
by CMC_Stags on Oct 19, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm... Actually...
The line started back in 2006 when I adopted Adam over at Sport Spot, (continued on at Mariner Central when SS shut down) and added him to my “Free” campaigns at Mariners Morsels…
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by PositivePaul on Oct 19, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand very corrected
And am firmly seated in the bandwagon you’re driving.
by CMC_Stags on Oct 19, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, I know it's the long-term plan and all
but we all understand Moore’s likely limitations for 2010, right? You’ve seen the 2009 hitting stats, and you’re aware of the PB stats from his career?
He’s the long-term answer, and maybe 2010 is the time when his current and future value outweighs Johnson’s meager output. But that’s not a slam dunk.
Sorry. Carry on.
by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW, I agree...
Although he’s probably not going to learn anything else in AAA, he’s still a bit raw to be considered the everyday catcher. Being in the C rotation would help him develop, certainly, but I don’t think he’s quite ready yet to completely take over the reins. And it’s not a 100% certainty that Rob Johnson will be healthy in time for Spring Training. Certainly giving him some rehab time to start the season has to be considered. It’s entirely reasonable, even for the biggest Moore fanboys, to recognize that the M’s do need some veteran help at catcher. Moore needs to be eased a little bit more into the starting C position. But he’ll grab it and run, I think…
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by PositivePaul on Oct 20, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Kenji,
Thanks for being our catcher, thanks for being someone to root for and wish the best for. Thanks for doing one of the most difficult jobs on the field in a foreign environment, it showed a lot of guts. Thanks for being another player Ichiro could talk to without a translator. Thanks for your dead pull swing, and your red glove. Through the good times and the bad, you always looked like you tried your best to make our experience as fans better. And for that I thank you.
A fan
by Scrupio on Oct 19, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro doesn't use a translator to talk to other players
by Graham on Oct 19, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenji was one of my favorite Mariners of the past few years, even during his bad years.
This move is nothing but class and I wish him the best. Thanks for the memories Kenji, I still remember that game tying dinger you hit against Texas in the 9th inning when everyone had already written you off.
by tintin on Oct 19, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I jumped off my couch and yelled.
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by gregrabble on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there!
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by Dancing Football on Oct 20, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Godspeed, Kenji
I will fondly remember the time I saw you hit a sugoi ippatsu
by Nick S on Oct 19, 2009 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Mr. Johjima. You are a class act.
You gave us what you could every day, and we can’t ask for more than that. You are leaving us now and I hope it is a good decision for you. It is a very good decison for the team as they now have $ to work with this winter. One last favor, could you please talk to Carlos about his contract? Instill some of that Japanese honor into his head.
by Sinking Away on Oct 19, 2009 11:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much this means to Ichiro.
During the times when he had some enemies in the clubhouse and he seemed to be so isolated, having Kenji around was probably a good bit of comfort. He’s a grown man and he’ll do his thing, but losing Kenji and maybe Griffey is probably going to be a bummer for him.
I say we sign Yusei Kikuchi and put him on the big club immediately.
by Teej on Oct 19, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that Ichiro is devastated

by Jeff on Oct 19, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone actually see them converse often?
We’ve been saying that Johjima helps keep Ichiro company, but I rarely remember seeing clips of them talking.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Oct 20, 2009 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, until they give us DugoutCam we are dependent on the FSN directors
but I’d say I say them by each other a fair amount, usually after one or the other of them had done something offensively— usually Joh was too busy by the pitcher or pitching coach to visit much…
by msb on Oct 20, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The .gif of him hitting a dinger on the Dolphin is too big and the nutshots were my other memory
by Jeff on Oct 19, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I prefer the one where he got hit in the facemask three times in one at bat.
Then flipped the batter off.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Oct 20, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry you can't handle the size of my GIFs
by Matthew on Oct 20, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus christ put that monster away
You’re in public
by Graham on Oct 20, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fogel seems to imply that I could
One of us is mistaken
by Jeff on Oct 20, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He took more nut shots than every other catcher in franchise history combined
by Poochie on Oct 19, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Wilson took more nut shots in his prime.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Oct 20, 2009 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Joh
for many years we had the luxury of Dan Wilson, though his bat wasn’t stellar his job behind the plate was immaculate. Joh was a good gap filler between Dan and Adam Moore- this kid can play, and with Johnson as a backup, we could be in very good shape for years to come
by gitanoloco on Oct 20, 2009 4:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you think Joh was no better than a gap filler
you haven’t been paying much attention.
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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking of defecting to HH
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