Bye, Kenji
Larry LaRue breaks the news that the best catcher in franchise history is opting out of his contract and going back to Japan. Sounds like the real deal, too - Zduriencik is holding a press conference in a couple of hours to discuss it.
Thanks for the years of service, Kenji. I'll miss the silly red glove and the powerpitch swing. Good luck in Japan.
Can't talk too much about the impact of all this now but this isn't a big surprise. Dave's been talking about the possibility of Johjima heading home for the past couple of months. This should free up some significant money for next year, but it comes at the cost of more Rob Johnson.
Matthew's Update: According to Shannon Drayer, no other confirmation yet, there is no buyout. The Mariners owe him no money.
Graham's Update: Section changed to great news. Party time!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good riddance.
Enjoy Rob Johnson.
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by Eyebrows on Oct 19, 2009 10:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I will. Rob Johnson/Adam Moore is/are only gonna get better.
If the pitchers favor Johnson over Joh thats all I need to know. Who knows the language barrier might have been worse than we thought.
Adam Moore, yes.
But I don’t see Rob Johnson, even fully healthy, being as good as Kenji was when Joh was at his worst. And what good does it do for the pitchers to favor Johnson when he has trouble performing probably the most important aspect of being a catcher, which is, of course, catching the ball? Not that I put much behind a pitcher favoring a catcher anyway.
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My impression of a Rob Johnson visit to the mound:
Rob: Felix, what’s with shaking me off. I’m not calling the fastball.
Felix: I want the fastball, he does not respect me.
Rob: Felix, he’s sitting on a fastball, he’s expecting a fastball. Throw your change up.
Felix: He cannot hit my fastball, he is not man enough to hit my fastball.
Rob: You Latin prick, your fastball is not your cock. Throw the change up.
Felix: …
Rob: …
Wakamatsu: What the hell is going on out here?
Rob: Dammit Don! We’re just about to have a breakthrough here
Wakamatsu: What about?
Ump: Fellas, what the hell, lets move it along.
Wakamatsu: Just a second ump, we’re might be having a breakthrough
Felix: (Looking confused and scared)So you’re saying my masculinity isn’t tied to my fastball?
Wakamatsu: Right on Rob, good job. (heads back to the dugout)
Ump: Holy shit, live long enough you really do see everything. PLAY BALL!
by Kermit. on Oct 19, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 17 recs
The Latin stereotype might have been too much
The whole “he’s good with pitchers” line every time anyone associated with the team talks about Johnson is killing me. They trust him? He has a dominant personality they automatically follow? They like his pitch sequencing better? WHAT DOES IT MEAN!
I hate Rob Johnson even more now that you made him sound like Crash Davis.
And not because I hated Crash Davis, but because I like Crash and I refuse to have Rob Johnson seem anything like him.
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That has to be the reason.
This is brilliant!
by Sinking Away on Oct 19, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad Rob was able to convince him his masculinity was actually tied to his 'death change.'
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
The fuck?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there a negative rec button?
I’d like to do that right now.
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Isn't that more for rule infractions?
I just want a way to tell David89 that his opinion sucks donkey balls. Maybe I’ll just say “Hey David89! Your opinion sucks donkey balls!”
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I would not be pleased if you did that.
You can certainly express disagreement in a more civil manner than that.
While Kenji's contract was horrible, he was the best Major League-ready catcher the team had.
I would still take Kenji at $8 million over any more Rob Johnson. I’m happy that Kenji opted out, though. Hopefully Jack finds someone to unseat Johnson.
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More Rob Johnson :(
But also more Adam Moore :) (?)
Well, good luck to the FO in using the $ to compensate
for the whole more Rob thing.
by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions
I always liked Kenji, and I hate seeing him go because it seems like he was often ufairly treated.
at the same time any any event that puts more money in Zduriencik’s hands is a net positive. So, I;m going to shed one tear for Joh and meanwhile dream of Jack declining Wilson’s option and buying a nice shortstop for us.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
This sucks.
I’ll miss Kenji. Was he really the best catcher in franchise? I’m questioning your statement, I just have not spent any time going through the numbers.
Also my dog loved him. Occasionally, when he was up to bat she would get right up to the television.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
His first two years
are the best two hitting years from a Mariners catcher ever. Yes, that is as sad as it sounds
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You can probably put the money to better use.
Take this as a blessing. There’s gotta be a guy you can pluck off the pile who’ll give you more bang for your buck than Kenji, right?
"I got my pregnant wife (the Yankee fan) with me. Hoping my kid learns to kick her everytime the Mets score." -Schifftis-
Oh my God Oh my God
On the one hand, AWESOME. On the other hand, awww. I liked Joh, and I always got the feeling he never really “fit”. I hope he finds success, or happiness (either / or) back in Japan.
Jeff Clement!!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Oct 19, 2009 10:21 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Clement hit .224 after the trade
Perhaps the M’s sold high
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And rec'd my good man.
I’m glad Joh’s gone…wont even shed croc tears for him. Wish he hadn’t sucked for a year and a half, but thems the breaks.
You mean Matt Clement?
;-)
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 19, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Jemaine Clement!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a Improvment for the Ms
Fell free to point out anything wrong here but the average market value is about 1win/4Million dollars. Kenji leaving us saves us 8 million and I doubt the difference between 300 Kenji ABs/300 Johnson ABs and just 600 Johnson ABs is to the order of two wins.
Provided that this allows Z to go and make a move elsewhere. Kenji leaving is great for the Ms.
I think it's possible to be happy that the Ms just got a lot of money back
but also feel bad for Kenji over the way he was treated here the season or so.
True, Yes
I just find the excitement of Z and the front office having an extra 8 Million this off season to be bigger then the sadness of the circumstances around Kenji’s departure.
The fact he hadn't worked as a base coach in years really showed, unfortunately.
and the infielders didn’t really show a lot of signs of being coached up …
Dan Wilson would like a word on that "Best catcher in franchise history" thing
by lemonverbena on Oct 19, 2009 10:40 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Dan Wilson might like a word but he'd be hilariously wrong
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well
The best catcher in Mariners franchise history ranks somewhere in between “the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson’s life” and “the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield’s life.”
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Nice
Steve Yeager ranks towards the James Garfield end of the continuum
by lemonverbena on Oct 19, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't care what the numbers say...
Scrapiron Stinson will always be the best in my book.
Until Adam Moore’s career takes shape.
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Dan Wilson would also like eleventy bazillion dollars and a sparkly pony
“most fan beloved” doesn’t mean “best”.
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I'm going to agree.
Kenji may have the better offensive numbers, but Dan was stellar behind the plate. He was able to hide his offensive woes with the lineups we had and was able to focus on his catching.
I know we like objective numbers around here, but I will side with Dan being the better catcher based on his defense and game calling. Kenji had his issues the first season he caught, but he did improve to become the better all-around catcher. However, he didn’t have enough years to take the overall title. Longevity does count.
Being bad for a very long time is a pretty poor argument for being the best at something
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair we have no way of measuring a catcher's defensive contribution.
Kenji has Dan beat in OPS by about 30 points, but Dan had his .752, .774, and .749 OPS 3-year stretch as well. I’m not sure how we would park adjust for numbers put up way back in the mid-90s…I realize the Kingdome was an easier place to hit in without a doubt, but it’s not like Dan wasn’t decent for a catcher in his prime. Plus, we know that a player can make up more the .010 difference in wOBA Kenji and Dan had in their careers. .314 for Kenji, .304 for Dan.
Honestly, I probably side with Kenji here too. Just playing Devil’s advocate. We have no real way of knowing if Dan’s defense did or did not make up for the offensive gap, but it’s not as much of a long shot as you make it seem.
And once again, for the record, I’d take Kenji too. There are still two not totally invalid sides to this argument.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Make up for the difference in wOBA with defensive contributions, I mean. I should really proof read.
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by BrettJMiller on Oct 19, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a ridiculously long shot
Dan Wilson had a comparable but worse peak if you don’t bother compensating for park, and if you do it’s not close. He then proceeded to really suck for quite a long time.
I have a way of knowing if Dan’s defence made up for the offensive gap because there’s frankly no way in hell that it did if one doesn’t take Johjima as being Victor Martinez behind the plate. You make think there’s an argument here, but that doesn’t stop you being wrong.
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Johjima.
actually, I do.
He came over as a veteran catcher, with metal plates in his catching hand, and a good 20-years of ingrained habits … setting up, to moving around the plate, interacting with pitchers and umpires in a certain way … and he tried to change, he tried to do everything he was asked to do. He worked with Roger Hansen (and every other ex-catcher in the organization), he worked on his English, he wrote voluminous notes about the hitters and pitchers around the league, he apparently reined in his natural aggressiveness behind the plate, and for a while he actually hit, as well ..
At the start of this year he made the mistake of caving to Japanese pressure to play in the WBC, which put him behind with the new staff & pitchers, and then when he was back, Rob had the opportunity to play once a week, and spend the rest of the time talking to every pitcher for hours, making them all feel very special, and when Joh got hurt, and Rob took over, there was the perception in place that Rob had the magic CERA touch.
Wonder what would have happened had he come over as a younger man, had he allowed his emotions to show more in the beginning the way they sometimes did towards the end (reportedly he was a very demonstrative catcher in Japan), had his command of the language been greater from the start ….
by msb on Oct 19, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
When Joh first came over, I loved his aggressiveness behind the plate.
I wish that had stayed.
Thank you so much for doing this Kenji
He could’ve just stayed around in a backup role and raked in the dough. But instead we get out of a truly awful contract for nothing.
I hope he enjoys his last few years in Japan,
Ah, I love Kenji. :(
But hooray! This is pretty awesome for the Mariners. And I’m happy for him that he can go home and still make a living while being more comfortable and close to his family.
I always liked Kenji
And now I know why!
Seriously though, best of luck to him. And we all truly do appreciate his first few seasons. On a sidenote, we really need to find a decent damned catcher one of these days and keep him around for a while. But this is really, really good for the organization.
Good catchers are really really hard to find.
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair point
Just sucks the M’s have been around for 32 years and haven’t had any sustained success from that position for, well, the entirety of their existence.
Thanks for the service, Kenji. I hope you find the happiness you are looking for.
Also, $8M WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's what Batista's and Washburn's contracts coming off the books is for!
And maybe a wee bit of Bedard’s $8M too.
Is Jason Varitek available?
I think it would cost about…oooh….$8 million to sign him.
You mean the Jason Varitek that can barely walk?
Much less actually perform the duties of a professional baseball player? No thanks.
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Leadership, grit, World Series rings
It really is frightening how fast Bavasi would have written a blank check to Varitek.
Pretty sure Johnny Bench is available as well.
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by Craig Powers on Oct 19, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is good for the team
That said, I will definitely miss having Kenji around. Like you said, Graham, I will miss the wacky red glove and the power-swing and corresponding bat flip when it connected. Godspeed, Mr. Johjima. I will forever remain curious as to why you bucked convention and drove around in a blacked-out and lifted Hummer H2
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Really? He drove a Hummer like that?
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Wasn't Kenjis' extension sort of an "off-the-books" expense?
That didn’t count against the alotted payroll as it was dictated by Yamauchi. If so, does this really free up money for GMZ to spend?
I'll choose to view this as neither a net gain nor a net loss
and simply sit back and trust that Z knows what to do. And I like being able to talk about faith in the GM with sincerity.
That's just punishing Kenji for the previous FO's mistake
and it seems like a shitty way to treat a player
Yeah I'm not really crazy about that tactic either if it's true
It may not have been the reason at all, but it does provide a motive for the way he was handled this year that isn’t “Rob Johnson calls a great game” or “All the pitchers have good chemistry with Rob”. When it comes down to it I don’t think Rob ever really clearly earned the playing time he got so it’s a little suspicious that they stuck with him so much.
This is really great news
I liked kenji, but that contract was just stupid. Hooray for good news
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
How lucky
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
This makes me sad
What an honorable thing to do. I’ll always respect you, Mr. Johjima
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Good Luck Kenji, May you find what you are looking for

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by Trenchtown on Oct 19, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 10 recs
I don't get this but it's amazing.
Fuck Anaheim.
by Eyeball Kid on Oct 19, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Kenji is sailing back to Japan
And if you receive a 10 million dollar buy-out (pure speculation on the amount,) and you want to buy a guitar shaped motor boat, who is going to stop you?
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
I'm amazed it took this long.
Fuck Anaheim.
by Eyeball Kid on Oct 19, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
So when will we announce the signing of Gregg Zaun?
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I don't know but,
Barring any ridiculous circumstances I would approve of this
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He's the perfect stopgap fit to be cheap and hold the position down better than Rob Johnson until Moore is ready
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So Dave probably has some redrafting to do on his offseason plan post
by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
I would guess that Dave probably had a good idea that this might happen as he's hinted to it for a while
But could he (or anyone) have predicted that we would save all the money?
by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I am sorry.
That probably was mean, I just felt set up for that.
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It's all good...I basically gave you a Silva fastball
by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of Silva, Opt out?
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
An odd contract from the get-go
Team gives player contract extension worth >$20M(?) for no apparent reason; player opts-out of additional $16M in income for limited reason.
I’m guessing money is getting moved under the table (or something else of value).
I wrote the post assuming Kenji would do this
I’ve been waiting for the announcement in order to hit publish.
by davidcameron on Oct 19, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I hadn't thought about it
but his son is of an age to be starting school, which would mean the family stays back in Japan.
Now that you have mentioned it, I'd like to think that this is the reason he's leaving
Instead of him having the realization that he’s playing backup to Rob Johnson.
I can't wait for Pedro Calderon to weigh in on this situation.
by Kermit. on Oct 19, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I think it may be becoming a dead meme to even reference him.
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When are you going to weigh in on the Kenji situation on your Mariners blog?
by seattlebruin on Oct 19, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not wearing a What Would Poochie Do t-shirt.
Pedro Calderon sounds cool, I hear Latino sounding names are going to be the big thing next year anyway
I'd rather hear from Pedro Cerrano
I always feel in good hands with his suggestions
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by seattlecougar on Oct 19, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep bats warm.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 19, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
So Kenji basically played at a 2-win pace this year.
Which is not counting his defense, which seemed to be above average. That sounds like a pretty good catcher to me. I hope he’s appreciated more by fans and coaches wherever he ends up.
by Manzanillos Cup on Oct 19, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
For all those who think there isn't money changing hands in this deal here:
Come on. Be realistic. Kenji’s definitely getting a little something off-the-books from Yamauichi or persons close to that part of the ownership. I don’t have to have any inside knowledge to know that this is far and away the most likely scenario, and that it’s furthermore consistent with Jack Z. claiming there was no buyout. (If it were to ever come to light it would merely be characterized as something else, a “gift” perhaps.)
Jigsaw falling into place
And if I have to watch a full season of Rob Johnson I swear to God I'll open a vein.
Jigsaw falling into place
It's possible
But he’s also going to get paid a lot to play in Japan and he’ll get to start and be close to his family, so it’s not that unreasonable that that would be enough motivation.
While that may be true, the Ms are still gonna come away with extra money
and since our pitching staff and coaching staff have decided that were gonna be riding the ‘Rob Johnson, Professional catcher’ Train next year. We might as well put Joh’s Salary into improving the other holes we have like DH/SS/3B/ect.
How do you know?
I don’t have to have any inside knowledge to know that this is far and away the most likely scenario
If you don’t have knowledge, by definition you don’t know.
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by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Pardon my imprecision, but colloquially speaking my point was perfectly clear.
Let’s not be nitpicky here, although yes technically you got me.
Jigsaw falling into place
I would disagree that there is enough information available to you to make such a conclusion reasonable.
It is fine to say that you think that it is the most likely scenario, but what pdb pointed out is far from nitpicky.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You admitted you had no basis for knowing what you then said you "definitely" knew
I don’t think that’s being nitpicky. I think it’s pointing out how silly it is to make statements like that. Especially on a site that prides itself on its analytic/evidence-based slant.
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Awww..
I just hope that Rob’s surgeries make it so he has to be released. I can imagine that he’s really happy about this, that smug grin on his fat face…god I hate him…
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by Coach Owens on Oct 19, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is unbelievable.
Finally he has more time to camp out under that bus.
...and now I'm here
Are there any good stopgap catchers available right now?
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by .Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
Jamie Burke!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
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by EnglishMariner on Oct 19, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We re-signed Guillermo Quiroz.
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by JY on Oct 19, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm officially on the Gregg Zaun bandwagon
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