Your Friday Morning Fresh Slab of OFFTOP Goodness
The last one was filling up, and I don't want to see Bruin's LLemmie voting post (go vote already if that's your thing!) get sidetracked with random stuff, so here's a new OFFTOP for all you eager little guys and gals to play with. What's on my OFFTOP mind this morning? Hmmmm.
1. The album's a few months old now, but I've fallen back in love with The Thermals' Now We Can See. Big, meaty power-pop chords, sharp, clever lyrics, and a relentless beat. What's not to like?
2. My entire team is off work on a team-building day at OMSI today. One of the joys of being a contractor is that I do not get to participate in team-building activities, which normally isn't a problem, but OMSI's pretty cool. But at least I get the whole floor to myself at work today. Does your work group ever do any sort of team-building thing? What's the best one you've ever done? Worst?
3. It's Garagefest this weekend. If any of you are going to be in town for it, let me know.
4. Championship Series favorites? I'm going with the Dodgers and the Yankees. But I wouldn't really care if the Phillies won. Anybody but the Angels, really.
Apart from LL football, anybody else have plans this weekend? Anything else to talk about?
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That works. We do a lot of that too.
Voodoo Doughnuts is right down the street so at least once a month someone on the floor brings in a box. It’s awesome.
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Penis doughnuts?
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
IT'S A ROCKET SHIP!!!!

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
SEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHAAAAAAWWWWKKKSSSSSS!!!
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions
I've been trying to get my work to do a team-building paintball outing.
So far, no takers.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I just want the opportunity to shoot my coworkers without being fired/jailed.
I think they see through my cunning ruse.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Oh and also
if you’re a Wilco fan they’re playing the Schnitzer in Portland on February 9 – presale today at 10 through Ticketbastard (super-secret surprise sneaky presale code is the acronym of this organization). I guess they’re playing there even if you’re not a Wilco fan, but I’m not going to change the sentence now.
They’re also at the Paramount, on Feb 10. I don’t have presale info for that one.
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THEY'RE PLAYING WITH PARAMORE??!!
BUY BUY BUY!
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyway, to add to pdb's post
Wilco is pretty awesome live. They’re not super high energy, but they’re extremely tight, and they chose their setlists extremely well.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, that's why I'm going
I’m kinda meh about Wilco these days, but they’re an amazingly good live band. And this time ‘round they’re taking requests!
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Hello!
1: What’s not to like is the fact that it’s just not nearly as good as their other records, and I don’t think it’s all that melodic. It’s fine. Maybe I should give it another spin, but I haven’t thought about it in months (not a good sign).
2: I used to organize ‘team-building’ outings for Rainiers day games. Haven’t done it in a while; I stopped when I kept getting saddled with unused tickets due to day-of-game cancellations. Easily the best team-building outings I’ve been on, however. There are no activities, no exercises, no management-speak. Just baseball and a beer or two.
3: Yes!
4: Dodgers/Yanks. Big win for Philadelphia last night. Sucks for GS52.
Big Hawks game this weekend. I’m making some Sangiovese. Sounders can clinch a playoff berth. Good stuff all around.
Listen to the first two songs again
they’re catchy as all hell.
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Yes!
I’ve also got a small bucket of pinot noir fermenting (from the vines in my back yard), and a carboy of syrah from e. washington. Also some zinfandel from california, but maaaaaaaan that produced some hydrogen sulfide and now a part of my basement smells like farts. I’m told this is correctable, but…. seriously. Like a LOT of farts.
But wait, I haven't finished yet. Maybe it's all awful.
Did another 5 gal. last year, and I still haven’t opened it. I need an oak barrel….
(Seriously though, I’m so happy with the pinot noir. I’m happy with it despite the fact that I didn’t realize until half way through crushing the grapes that the bucket’s spigot was open, and I’d been pouring pinot noir juice literally down the drain. So it’s a small bucket. Anyone else make wine? Any stupid shit that you’ve done in that process?)
My parents did a looooong time ago...
They’re friends with a bunch of the winemakers down in the Gorge, though. My cousin’s just starting w/help from some winemakers in Woodinville. So, eventually I may try my hand at some point.
Sangiovese sounds fantastic right about now. You probably already have sources, but I may be able to help track down a barrel.
HAHAHA w/r/t the zin-farts! That’s awesome…
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by PositivePaul on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
No, it's not awesome. It's really off-putting, despite the Intewebz telling me not to worry. Yet.
Yeah, it’s actually really fun to do.
I think help from winemakers in Woodinville would be awesome. I’ve got help from some other folks around the sound, but we’re all amateurs. It’s cool that some of them have been doing it for 20 years and thus are waaay further along than I am, but we’re all still stumped every once in a while.
Syrah!
I wish I had the time to mess around with wine. My grandma used to do it a little bit because she had a place near a grape growing community on the Olympic Peninsula, but I think that started to go with her memory.
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The syrah's looking good. I was fearful that it too stunk of farts, but I discovered last night that that was just
residual H2S from the zinfandel. The syrah’s looking great. I’m going to try at least a small batch of a red blend with sangiovese and syrah.
I have about 30 green arbequina olives
I am told they don’t actually ripen to black in the NW, and I am debating if it is worth the effort of brining …. “To pickle the fruit for eating, place your clean olives in cold water and change the water each day for 10 days. Then make a brine solution of one cup of non-iodized salt to each gallon of water, making sure the solution covers the olives. Change this solution weekly for four weeks”
You write highly specific OTFPOTDs
1. A few months old? I may have gotten two albums all year that were released in 2009, but that’s usually the case. I’ll give it a spin I guess.
2. For the literary journal I work for, we were supposed to pair up and write someone’s fictional biography using details like “where you were born” “first kiss” and “how you would like to die”. That was pretty awful, though the results were not unbearable. Otherwise, as team-building exercises go, at the magazine, whenever we’re nearly at the deadline, we all break out the baseball gloves and play catch in Riverside Park to take a break. They do other dumb exercises, but most people abandon them within an hour or two. The catch thing at least came about organically.
3. :(
4. Anyone but the Yankees, probably. I can tolerate the Angels winning because of the whole Adenhart thing. Phillies are not extraordinary, but it’s been so long since we’ve had a repeat. As for the Dodgers, I’d get behind them if I felt that the team itself had any distinctive personality and was not a collection of mercs.
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Quarto.
It’s a campus undergrad lit mag, may not count. Similarly, the magazine is the alumni magazine, though it’s run by professional journalist types, all but one of whom are hardcore baseball fans.
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Oh No.
A repressed work memory has just been brought to the surface. When I was the Product Manager for Virgin Records SF we had to sit around in a conference room with other managers from other stores. They paired us off and we had to stare into each others eyes without speaking or looking away for five full minutes. That is some straight bullshit. People would burst out crying and all kinds of emotional baggage was strewn on the floor. What that had to to with selling cds I’ll never know.
☊
It's things like that that ensure that Virgin Megastores still exist and are going strong to this day
wait what?
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I think all the US ones are closed now actually
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While it would have been hell to go through
I can imagine a group of suits behind the one-way glass with bags of popcorn.
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by JY on Oct 16, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
So I bought a case of Bud Light Golden Wheat last night.
Its pretty good and cool that AB is trying to get its feet wet in craft beers (Not saying that this is a craft beer but it is market towards typical Budweiser drinkers and is trying to teach them there is more to beer)
Each bottle has a little sediment at the bottom of the bottle and a explanation of what that is.
It definitely is still a light beer but at least it has some flavor.
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I was curious about this beer
I still have yet to try American Ale so I’ll probably give both of them a shot here one of these days.
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It doesn't compare to other Wheat beers.
But side by side with other light beers – It blows them out of the water.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Given the context of what this beer is trying to achieve, I’d probably actually step out of my snobbery long enough to at least give it one whirl…
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by PositivePaul on Oct 16, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Some of those seem to go beyond "injuries".
by Mariner John on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
This is beyond injuries
THIS IS BEYOND BASEBALL
by Graham MacAree on Oct 16, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless they're actually a cowboy and then I suppose I'd give them a pass
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Huh.
“A native of Cheyenne, Wyoming, Ringolsby is a graduate of Cheyenne East High School, and a member of the school’s Hall of Fame. He began his writing career as one-man sports staff for the Wyoming State Tribune, the afternoon newspaper in Cheyenne, the day after he turned 17. Ringolsby is a co-founder of Baseball America, a member of the board of directors for the Professional Baseball Scouts Foundation, and a member of the Society for American Baseball Research since 1979.
Ringolsby is a member of the executive committee of the National Western Stock Show, a member at the benefactor level of the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association, and a member of the board of directors of the Cowboy Joe Club at the University of Wyoming."
Isn't he in the HOF as well? Niehaus was hanging out with him this summer when he went into the HOF
I can’t remember now. The paper he’s been working for folded recently, that part I do remember.
That passes
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I'm going to see "Paranormal Activity" tonight
but I plan on seeing “Where the Wild Things Are” soon. I’m a little concerned about the middling reviews it’s getting, though. I thought this movie was going to be a run-away critic and crowd favorite.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a very strange movie from the reviews I've read
because it’s not a typical warm and fuzzy, kids-and-adults-all-learn-a-lesson-and-bond-at-the-end-with-wackiness type story; I’ve read interviews with Spike Jonze that says he was trying to capture the way it felt to be 9 rather than capturing a story arc. I’m very curious to see if he’s pulled it off.
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Let me know how Paranormal is.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely.
I’m fucking PUMPED for it.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Paranormal is a bit different, and that's why I liked it.
I heard it was shot on like an 11,000 dollar budget.
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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Another reason why no one needs 200 million to make a god damn movie!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
But explosions!
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Something catches on fire... Good enough?
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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
And Off topic but do you want to be in charge of doing the weekly post your hawk at FG?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't have pip's email!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
It's on my user page.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
totally completely kidding
NOBODY GETS MY DRY IRONIC SENSE OF HUMOR WAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I was joking as well
I love dry humor!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I love wet humor.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
And moist humor.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't do it this week, but I can start doing it next week.
Has Christian bailed?
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
He has mass school stuff.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Start a weekly post called "Love letters to John Carlson"
And then we will talk.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awKoTDIdKrg
[Eminem as ‘Robert’]
Dear Felix, I wrote but you still ain’t callin
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got ‘em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot ’em
but anyways; fuck it, what’s been up? Man how’s your daughter?
I’m gonna get a pet too, I’m bout to be a father
If I have a cat, guess what I’ma call her?
I’ma name her Felix
I read about Chris Snelling too I’m sorry
I had a friend kill himself after hearing about the M’s trading him
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I’m your biggest fan
I even saw that underground shit that you did with Rene
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the shit you did with Putz too, that shit was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Robert
{Chorus: Dido}
[Eminem as ‘Robert’]
Dear Felix, you still ain’t called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain’t mad – I just think it’s FUCKED UP you don’t answer fans
If you didn’t wanna talk to me outside the game
you didn’t have to, but you coulda signed an autograph for me
That’s me man, he’s I act like I’m only six years old
I waited in the blistering cold for you,
four hours and you just said, “No.”
That’s pretty shitty man – you’re like my fuckin idol
I wants to be just like you man, I like you more than your mom does
I ain’t that mad though, I just don’t like bein lied to
Remember when we met in October – you said if I’d write you
you would write back – see I’m just like you in a way
I never knew a winner neither;
We used to always cheat with roids and stuff
I can relate to what you’re doing on the field
so when I have a shitty day, I drift away and watch ‘em
cause I don’t really got shit else so that shit helps when I’m depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It’s like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend’s jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don’t know you like I know you Felix, no one does
She don’t know what it was like for people like us growin up
You gotta call me man, I’ll be the biggest fan you’ll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Robert — P.S.
We should be together too
{Chorus: Dido}
[Eminem as ‘Robert’]
Dear Mister-I’m-Too-Good-To-Call-Or-Write-My-Fans,
this’ll be the last package I ever send your ass
It’s been six months and still no word – I don’t deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
I wrote the addresses on ‘em perfect
So this is my cassette I’m sending you, I hope you hear it
I’m in the car right now, I’m doing 90 on the freeway
Hey Felix, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, “In the Air of the Night”
about that guy who coulda saved that other guy from drowning
but didn’t, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That’s kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
Now it’s too late – I’m on a 1000 downers now, I’m drowsy
and all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped ALL of your pictures off the wall
I love you Felix, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can’t sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can’t sleep and you SCREAM about it
I hope your conscience EATS AT YOU and you can’t BREATHE without me
See Felix; {*screaming*} Shut up bitch! I’m tryin to talk!
Hey Felix, that’s my cat screamin in the trunk
but I didn’t slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain’t like you
cause if she suffocates she’ll suffer more, and then she’ll die too
Well, gotta go, I’m almost at the bridge now
Oh shit, I forgot, how’m I supposed to send this shit out?
{*car tires squeal*} {*CRASH*}
.. {*brief silence*} .. {*LOUD splash*}
{Chorus: Dido}
[Eminem]
Dear Robert, I meant to write you sooner but I just been busy
You said your getting a cat now, how color is she?
Look, I’m really flattered you would call your cat that
and here’s an autograph for you,
I wrote it on the Starter cap
I’m sorry I didn’t see you at the show, I musta missed you
Don’t think I did that shit intentionally just to diss you
But what’s this shit you said about you like to cut your wrists too?
I say that shit just clownin dogg,
c’mon – how fucked up is you?
You got some issues Robert, I think you need some counseling
to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
And what’s this shit about us meant to be together?
That type of shit’ll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your cat need each other
or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter, I just hope it reaches you in time
before you hurt yourself, I think that you’ll be doin just fine
if you relax a little, I’m glad I inspire you but Robert
why are you so mad? Try to understand Robert, that I do want you as a fan
I just don’t want you to do some crazy shit
I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
and had his cat in the trunk,
and in the car they found a tape, but they didn’t say who it was to
Come to think about, his name was.. it was you
Damn!
WHAT ABOUT THE WIFE YOU SICK SON OF A BITCH
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I was playing craps and all three dealers were wearing Ben Roethlisberger jerseys
I should have known I was going to lose right then
by seattlebruin on Oct 19, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to go see Coco Before Chanel
I am churlish and do not trust my beloved WTWTA to a movie.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Team building sounds dangerous.
I prefer to project the illusion that I am an asshole with no emotions and zero interest in any of my co-workers personal lives.
In a sense that is indeed what I am saying.
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I'm trying to figure out how I managed to be nearly oblivious to this.
CMJ Music Marathon and Film Festival
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I'm not sure.
It might be because in the past two weeks I’ve had a project due, had my laptop’s power cord break, been sick, and have had workers replace a window in my apartment. Still, that only excuses that time period. The rest is a mystery.
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Yeah, I try to block that out every year
I went once. It’s overwhelming, in the best possible sense of the word.
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by "block it out" I of course mean pretend it doesn't exist because I'm annoyed I can't go
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Any recommendations?
I saw the band list alone and my eyes glazed over.
Someone was asking me who she should see (that’s how I found out) and I’m at a complete loss for how to respond.
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Honestly, I'd just go dive in
scanning the list really quick I don’t see a ton that I recognize – I’m not much into the NYC music scene these days so a ton of those bands are completely unfamiliar to me, but I like PDX band The Whore Moans (10.15 Tuesday, Bruar Falls), they’re always fun, and the Maldives are playing right after them who are good sorta alt-countryish stuff if you like that sort of thing. Beyond that my eyes glaze over too – but I’d just go to a random show on one of the nights, it’s a fun event.
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Hey friend, the Whore Moans are a Seattle band.
You’ve got better music than we do so don’t go poaching our best bands.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Mea culpa
I stand corrected. Sit corrected. Whatever. Sorry…
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Probably good advice.
Good lord these tickets are expensive though. And NYU students get $200 off. Fuck NYU.
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Hmmmm...
On Tuesday I’d see Atlas Sound (though I have no idea what he’d be like live) and maaaybe the Happy Hollows. I might check out Black Swan Green, because that’s the name of a decent novel, and hey, you like books.
On Wed., maybe see Deastro, then I Was a King or Mumford and Sons, then maybe Frank Bruno because he’s an amazing songwriter and is also a literary critic – he’s you if you wrote songs.
Thu., Postmarks if you like reeeallly low-key chamber pop. Mumford and Sons if you missed them the prev. day and if you don’t mind banjo. Maybe Youth Group.
Fri. Menahan Street Band/Budos Band. Don’t miss that one. Just stay at the Knitting Factory for kick-ass soul/gospel/afro-funk. DO THIS. Army-Navy later on if you like very slick power-pop, maybe School of Seven Bells after that.
Sat. Ted Leo and the Pharmacists at noon. Sin Fang Bous at 8
Other stuff to fit in – Whore Moans, the metal tribute to Michael Jackson, Dum Dum Girls.
I never made it down the list far enough to see Ted Leo on there
that’s a definite go.
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I'm probably looking at Weds, Fri, and Sat if I am able to go.
This is difficult.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Unnatural Helpers are not to be missed.
Pissed Jeans, the Trashmen, Dutchess and the Duke, Nebula, and Ted Leo and the Pharmacists are also bands I would make it a point to see. (Well actually I would probably skip Unnatural Helpers and Duchess and the Duke because they’re from Seattle and I get to see them a lot but if I didn’t get to see them a lot I would definitely go.)
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
oh and Blue Scholars if you like rap/hiphop
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raphop?
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooh, I didn't see that.
Yes, definitely. Seattle’s second best live hip-hop band!
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the "problem" with CMJ
it’s like drinking from a firehose of awesome music, and it’s easy to miss stuff by glancing through the schedule.
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What's amazing is that the biggest bands are bands like Japanther and Pissed Jeans.
Most of the rest of the bands are moderately big on a local level. It’s the perfect music festival.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It really is
it hasn’t been taken over like SxSW and it’s still possible to see a ton of bands that you may never have heard of that may never get anywhere and are still awesome.
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Wait, where were unnatural helpers/Duchess and the Duke?
ac, did you get that Intelligence/Unnatural Helpers split 7"? It’s good!
I haven't yet!
I plan to! The Intelligence are fantastic.
Unnatural Helpers are playing at 11:30 and Tuesday and 7:00 on Saturday. Duchess and the Duke are playing at 10:00 on Saturday. Saturday is going to be a long day for the Duchess.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Any opinions about Pure Country Gold?
I might go see them tonight if I can’t get into the (ahem) King Khan show that was added before tomorrow night’s Garagefest show.
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I like 'em.
Some of their stuff sounds like King Khan and BBQ show, some of it sounds more like garage punk. I’ve got two of their singles and they’re pretty good.
Good to know, I'll keep that in mind tonight
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Reason #1 I can't wait for the World Cup to start?
I can’t wait to hear what Maradona will say once Argentina starts to struggle. You can take your Chad Ochocincos and your TO’s, American football, because those two are mere innocent children at “provocation”, next to the spectacle of the greatest soccer player not named Pele telling an entire nation to suck it on national TV.
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I keep thinking that his hiring was part of the biggest reality tv show ever.
When he inevitably gets fired, I do NOT want to be told that no, cameras haven’t been following him everywhere for a year.
This is basically the best set-up/premise in sports, and I don’t want to see it wasted. I do, however, want lots and lots of footage of Maradona wasted, and attempting to take on Messi or something.
That's a good theory
Maradona makes me want to learn and be fluent in Spanish by the WC so I can read and watch his stuff without it being translated into wonder bread.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Seriously, who hires Maradona to manage one of the best two or three teams on the planet?
Can the FA hire Gazza to manage England (note to FA: He’s not a damn furriner!)? Maybe give Cantona a shot with the French national team (note to FFA: You hate Domenech already! DOOOO IT!)?
I would love it if the FA hired Gazza
if only for the fresh stories of pre-tournament drinking binges.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Yep!
I can’t believe we’re not hearing of pre-tournament cocaine binges from Maradona. Again, maybe we’re only getting the sanitized version, and this is why the real truth needs to be televised.
I refuse to enter a corn maze because there might be a serial killer in it
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
It was a horrible experience.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you pee in your face again?
by Graham MacAree on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
No but the guy who runs the corn maze is still cleaning up and quite angry
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There is a new trail
And it leads out!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not that horrible.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Scruffy = Cedric Diggory
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a shiny vampire?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy...shit.
I never realized they were played by the same actor.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually saw twighlight before that harry potter.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Kind of
There was one that a friend of mine lived adjacent to, and after seeing a midnight show at the Egyptian one night (think it was Raiders of the Lost Ark), we snuck into it and ran through for a while. No notion of where we were going, but we could see because there was a full moon that night. Eventually we escaped through a wall.
Great times.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Just children screaming
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I've been to two this year, and that's enough. Worst idea of all time.
Plus the little cuts you get off the leaves are annoying as hell. The only necessary way to negotiate a corn field is on a tractor.
Wait sorry I thought we were playing lightning scrabble
by Graham MacAree on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think people like my set ups
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Why is this image mirrored?
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
....oh god I just read this.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Anybody catch the season premier of 30 Rock last night?
Holy god, it sucked. Note to Tina Fey and the other 30 Rock writers: There’s such a thing as being too self-aware.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions
Haven't seen it yet, watching it tonight
I feared this day might come, though.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Yeah, I was...
…underwhelmed.
Disappointing.
SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!
by PositivePaul on Oct 16, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
What about the other stuff on 'Must See Thursday'?
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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I used to watch The Office, but gave up midway through last season.
I tried watching Parks & Rec last year, but found it unwatchable. I haven’t watched Community yet.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Parks and Rec has improved.
The Office sucked last season, but it’s been OK so far this year. It’s still funny enough to be worth watching, but for maximum effectiveness it probably should have ended after a few seasons, if you ask me.
I like community a lot.
It’s kinda odd humor and I don’t think it will last, but I’ll always remember it as ‘one of those shows’.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Its always sunny!
What grosses you out?
Knees.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Does hulu have that show?
I don’t have cable =(
I know I’ve been missing tons of hilarity, because people keep telling me about it… Over and over and over again.
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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes it does.
There’s 9 episodes up now, 4 from this season and 5 from season 2.
by Mariner John on Oct 16, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
They rotate 5 episodes at a time on Hulu.
You don’t have to start wtih season 1 but some stuff would make more sense if you started from the beginning.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I am so glad this season has started to turn it's self around. Especially after the abortion that was episode 3.
Yesterdays episode was easily the best yet this year.
FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!
I think last weeks was my favorite so far.
GET OUT OF HERE SNAIL!
But I also loved the car trip episode.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Which was episode three?
The Dave and Busters product placement?
Last two have been awesome.
The Hawks should be better.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 18, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
January 26th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
June 24th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait what game are we playing
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May 4th! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
MASS EFFECT 2!!!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who hated Mass Effect?
Very linear environments, boring regurgitated environments, uninteresting planet exploration, utterly boring sidequests.
You're not the only one, but I still think it was a great game.
Mass Effect had Bioware’s trademark storytelling and strong characters. That made up for a lot of the game’s minor flaws. It was never a game designed to be a big sandbox RPG like Oblivion, but rather a more focused game with a detailed story.
I don't know, I loved other Bioware games like BG and KOTOR.
Maybe I’m holding Bioware to too high of a standard, but Mass Effect was very disappointing for me.
Hopefully Dragon Age will make me forget it.
I hated Mass Effect the first time I played it, but loved it the second time I played it through.
The first time through I was playing it as too much of a shooter. Once I learned to take advantage of biotics and tech strength, I found out the game was incredibly fun. And the story is pretty amazing.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I loved the game except for that one hilariously difficult part on the second planet you go to in the main storyline
It’s been a long time since I’ve been as frustrated by a game as I was trying to get through that tunnel with those fucking rocket launchers that kill you in two hits that you can’t dodge because you’re in a goddamn tunnel.
Are you talking about when you're still in the Mako?
Use your jets to jump over the rockets. That’s how I avoid most stuff when I’m driving around.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it's pretty much right at the start of the first Mako mission on the ice planet
Before you’ve really even figured out how to fight with it you’re thrust into this tunnel with 6 guys toting rocket launchers wayyyy on the other side. I had to get out and snipe them.
The hardest part of that game was the mission on the moon when you get attacked by 20 billion rocket-toting flying dudes
>:(
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I had completely purged that level from memory.
Yeah, that was worse.
That was pretty bad too
I just let em all group up in a doorway then spammed techs.
Dammit now I really want to play through the game again
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the fucking rocket droids are the worst.
Though if you use AI hacking, they can become a source of hilarity.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I seem to remember getting through that rather easily.
I liked Mass Effect but I wish it was more open. I felt forced down a track.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That's kind of standard in Bioware games.
They’re not the open-world RPG devs like Bethesda.
I'm twiddling in school!
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hate you.
Really don’t know why I’m here.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw wine in a can at Madison Market the other day.
That was new.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw the same at M's...right next to their entire display devoted to "individual boxes of wine" ...you know the ones.
I shop there near-daily; live one block away.
I’m that girl who’s always paying way too much for way too much Elysian Pumpkin Ale.
by homesickalien on Oct 16, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
But it is excellent pumpkin ale.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 16, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I just found a bar/restaurant four blocks down that sells it.
For fifteen dollars a bottle.
Ugh.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 18, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Which one?
Elysian has multiple pumpkins
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I was referring specifically to Night Owl - that's the only one I've seen out this year at least. Not sure how a restaurant could get away with $15/bottle! Hot damn!
M’s sells it for just over $4…and the dude at the register tells me he thinks they have the best price.
Dude at the register assumes I’ll be too tipsy on Night Owl to research and prove him wrong.
Dude at the register is correct.
by homesickalien on Oct 19, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The Great Pumpkin is out as well, and so is a pumpkin stout
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
$4 is pretty standard for Night Owl.
Ballard/Greenwood Markets have it for $5, but they’re consistently more expensive than other places.
Great Pumpkin is pretty fantastic, second only to Southern Tier Pumking in terms of pumpkin ales I have had. I liked Dark ‘O the Moon (Elysian’s pumpkin stout) fairly well, although it was a bit sweet for my tastess; I know at least one LLer disagrees with that and in any case it is definitely worth trying.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How can you think DOtM is too sweet when Pumpking is a sugar pie?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
DotM is a stout and I prefer my stouts not be sweet.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Incorrect
A Spice/Herb/Vegetable brewed by
Elysian Brewing Co.
Seattle, Washington USA
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
It is clearly a stout.
Stout is right there in the name.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 20, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it just was chocolately.
You, however, thought differently.
Deep brown pour with tan/reddish head. Very viscous mouthfeel; flavor and aroma are pumpkin, nutmeg, chocolate. A bit sweet.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate having to write reviews to rate anything.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 20, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I just like it when I write one and see someone I know was the last reviewer.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I like that as well.
Of course, whenever that’s happened, it was always matthew.
It's usually me drinking the beer at the same time as Matthew
Which makes it even sillier.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I still gave it a 3.6, too.
I liked it.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 20, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't believe you guys are arguing over the descriptions you wrote on ratebeer
though to be fair, I found all of NOLA’s reviews on accident once because I was looking the “highest raters for Cuvee de Tomme” page
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I found a place in Rancho Cucamonga that is my new personal heaven
They had all the Jolly Pumpkin that I bought, and had Consecration for 18, Curieux for 14 and Cuvee de Tomme for 24
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
This seems a bit of a far off option for me.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they ship though
if I’m remembering right, it’s like $10 for the first bottle, but only like $1 a bottle more up to 10 bottles total
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Night Owl.
This is the side effect of being imported across the country though, more than anything.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 19, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not until just before Christmas.
They’ll be out by then.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Night Owl is fine but it is in no way worth $15 a bottle.
Especially since you’re in NY and can get Southern Tier Pumking.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I will look into it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 19, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I would kill to be able to get Elysian here
but oh well, at least I found Jolly Pumpkin this weekend!
by seattlebruin on Oct 19, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgive my ig'nance, but where is here? Michigan? If you are in MI, you can at least get some Leinenkugel's. They have amazing classic year-rounds as well as seasonals.
by homesickalien on Oct 19, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Here = Southern California
Jolly Pumpkin would be oh so easy to find in Michigan =(
by seattlebruin on Oct 19, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Not working.
Not in an academic sense at least.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Just got back from the gym/taco cart
but thumb twiddling will now commence.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Wow! Who would've thought to combine gyms with tacos.
Gotta love Portland.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
if only they were one and the same I'd never leave the gym
but no, I had to walk to the taco cart after the gym. But now I have a new business idea.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Best team building experience I've ever had was playing dominos in the army.
It was great, except there was always some jack ass that had to rhyme something stupid with 15. “Fitteen, Christine!” Then slam his domino down and bounce the table top. That guy kind of sucked.
Otherwise there were some fantastic conversations, seems like the important thing about team building is just finding common ground with your co-workers. Or perhaps I don’t understand the concept of team building.
Crafty!
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Locking up the board was always fun to try, but boy can that backfire in a hurry.
Kind of like trying to shoot the moon in hearts.
I don't get hearts at all...
Counting bones sounds like a really good idea though. You could make a lot of money off of black certain people.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, switching between hearts and spades was like trying to use right handed scissors with your left hand.
Took a minute to get coordinated. Trying to organize a domino game could be annoying, there’s always one guy that wants to play nickels. He would be the guy that pees in the coffee pot in an office environment, not to be trusted.
In a literal sense?
Did you know a shiesty guy who urinated in coffee?
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't drink tea for a similar reason.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Dominoes (the game) = awesome.
I haven’t played in a while, but I played too much in high school.
Mexican Train! Woo woo!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely forgot how many different types of dominos and games there are.
I’ve only played the kind that count to double six at the top end.
TENnys for Kennys!
/table slam, everyone’s bones down, face-up for all to see.
Yeah, I hate that guy too.
by homesickalien on Oct 16, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This is probably my favourite news article ever:
by Graham MacAree on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions
This reminds me of Whacking Day, from the simpsons.
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by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why I love Graham.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What will Jeff think?
He is so divided on the bunny love/bunny hate.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 16, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the office sucks
Another hmmm.
“”http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009943.html?categoryId=14&cs=1" target="new">Also on the CW docket is the space-themed “Plymouth Rock,” from Rob Thomas — the scribe behind UPN’s and CW’s “Veronica Mars,” and the original exec producer behind the C-Dub’s revived “90210.” Thomas will exec produce “Plymouth” with Danielle Stokdyk and Jennifer Gwartz, as well as Dan Etheridge. That’s the foursome behind Starz’s cult fave “Party Down,” in addition to “Cupid” and “Veronica Mars.”
Soap centers on young people on a ship traveling to a distant planet in order to colonize and save the human race."
I've always thought Hell, Norway could make a mint copyrighting this kind of stuff.
I know their train station sold t-shirts for “Hell Station” and I got a funny picture of little brightly colored flags above a shopping mall that said “Hell,” but seriously – why can’t they crank out phony title deeds like this. Hell, every vintner in Romania now sells some sort of Vampire-themed wine. Hell’s gotta get in on this.
I wasn't sure which game it was, so I turned the TV to TBS but ads were on.
I changed it to FOX and it’s Jerry Springer’s "Liars, Cheaters and Strippers " episode, complete with two women walking vaguely suggestively but with no emotion around a stripper pole.
Clearly, I ought to look these things up before I hit the channel button.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Idle baseball thought
The M’s had probably the best defense in baseball with one of the worst offenses in baseball. I doubt they could upgrade the offense without downgrading the defense to a greater extent.
Aside from Felix, our pitchers were pretty mediocre and we made them look great. What if we went out and signed a number of average starting pitchers, put them in the bullpen, and showed a willingness to pull the starter after three innings if they’re starting to get in trouble in the 4th?
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
Ladies and Gentlemen..... NextLaird

Somebody needs to make this mugshot spin.
by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Laird
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by JY on Oct 16, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The Next Laird.
This family takes AMAZING pictures.
If somebody could center the spin on his mouth, that would be hypnotizing.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy enough

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 18, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
That was really a song? I thought that was just a spoof on Southpark.
It’s so hard to keep up with pop culture
Not just a song, my dear man, but an Urban Hip-Hopera!
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was trapped for 15 min once.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I sense that LL is not necessarily much of an "a capella" crowd, but
this is awesome.
I work here: http://tinyurl.com/yfxlyhh
by .Taylor on Oct 16, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
DO IT, ROCKAPELLA!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well she sneaks around the world from Kiev to Carolina...
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The TBS 9-foot graphic
Is that meant to be 9 feet from one end of the graphic to the other, or what? The 9 right in the middle seems to suggest that the number itself is 9 feet from either end, but that doesn’t look right when they put it on the field.
I know they explained this in the _LDS postgames, but I had the volume down when it happened.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions
I'm also not at all sure of why they even bother with it
what can possibly be gained by knowing a player is 7 feet from a base as opposed to 8 feet?
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Re: the upcoming weekend
When I’m not studying, I will be watching baseball. When I’m not doing either of those things, I have no idea. I was debating going to a show at El Corazon Sunday night, but I have to be up early Monday, and that’s not really my scene so much anymore…
This is possibly the lamest possible response to your questions… :/
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
Come play football!
We’ll play nice.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 17, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Ugh.
I didn’t even get up until 11, and just now, at 2pm, realized what time it was.
To top everything off, I think I’m coming down with something, which is annoying specifically because I JUST got over something else. Hope everyone had fun, and watch out for tornadoes!
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
My mom listened to that the other day
She was so proud she had something baseball to discuss with me over the phone.
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
So I just got a keg of Odell's Easy Street
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/736/?ba=bros
for my kegerator.
For those of you familiar with keg pressures, should good beer be kept at a lower pressure (I generally do between 10-12 PSI, but the best I’ve had is Blue Moon)?
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After much experimenting it seems to be content somewhere between 9 and 10 PSI
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Bryan Price
""I didn’t know a great deal about the whole situation there until I got a chance to fly up there and visit with Walt Jocketty, Dusty Baker, Bill Bavasi, Cam Bonifay and Dick Williams," Price said on Saturday. “Everyone seemed to be very consistent in their ideas and the direction for the organization. It’s an impressive group of people.”"
That is an impressive group of people. I can't imagine a group of five men I would trust more to run a baseball team into the ground
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Maybe if it were Jimy instead of Dick Williams
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Charges are to be filed against Balloon Boy's parents
At this time they can only file “Filing a false police report” charges, which are only a misdemeanor, but they are trying to find out if federal charges can be filed.
Apparently after interviewing the parents again, they are convinced this was a faked event.
What are the odds of a guy that has spent years pimping a reality show, and whoring his family out for "Swapping Wives"
And also accidentally launching a kid into the lower atmosphere in a mickey mouse home made balloon. Seems like pretty long odds. I’ve never been six degrees of separation from a person that has been on a reality t.v. show, and probably x10 degrees from anyone that has built a half ass balloon in their backyard. Would anyone be the farm on that?
Does it help that the balloon was actually held together by string and duct tape?
I can’t imagine such thorough engineering expertise could fail to hold up a small child.
Apparently this guy also has a rather infamous temper.
I just hope his kids are safe, he seems like a rather impulsive guy and cornering him in this lie might lead him to do something even crazier…
If CPS hasn't come into that house and taken the kids away yet they're failing to do their job correctly
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Now We Can See is good...
But it can’t touch the other three Thermals’ LPs. The Body, The Blood, The Machine is one of my favorite albums ever.
Now We Can See is excellent.
Then again, so are their others. I think that NWCS comes in third to More Parts and The Body, the Blood.
Anyone catch Grizzly Bear on Friday? They KILLED.
The Hawks should be better.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 18, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions
I can't believe I missed Starf*cker at the Vera Project awhile ago. I blame the college board.
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by .Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Or, in my case, music = college.
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by .Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
:(
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Fucking Clay Bennett, David Stern, Howard Schultz and Greg Nichols.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I never realized how much money Schultz made off of the sale to Bennett.
It really makes his woe-is-me schtick over losing money on the team that much more insulting.
by waldo rojas on Oct 19, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Never believe a professional sports team owner's claim of losing money.
Never.
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It's like I said when they sold and I heard him claim that they were losing money every month
I look at it as owning a house. You aren’t losing $2,000 per month when you pay your mortgage. And when you sell for more than you paid, you didn’t lose anything
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Make an effort to get into soccer.
I used to be the same way about it, before I fell in love while watching the 2006 World Cup. You just have to learn to not take constant offensive scoring for granted, like in other American sports, and appreciate other facets of the game.
I'm relatively new to soccer but seriously people that find it boring don't make much of an actual effort to get into it
Clinging to a one goal lead for the final 30 minutes of an important match is easily the most terrifying and exciting thing that I have a experienced as a sports fan
Here's my traditionalist coming out
I liked/hated/dreaded it a lot more when they didn’t track injury time on the scoreboard like they do now. You want tense? Try timing out 3 min in your head when your team can’t hold on to the goddamn ball to save their lives and are only leading 1-0. Great stuff.
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The Crew game was an excellent example of that feeling
Clinging to a one goal lead for the final 30 minutes of an important match is easily the most terrifying and exciting thing that I have a experienced as a sports fan
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I'm hoping Gamefly ships it today or tomorrow so I can buy it from them for ~$40.
I’m pumped, but I think I can wait a day or two.
I think the frowny face was more what he was going for there
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Does it have the Sounders?
And is it on PS2?
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by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 19, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy balls, I'm getting it.
The Hawks should be better.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 19, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
No matter how badly your team did this weekend
at least it didn’t lose because of a beach ball. Unless your team happens to be Liverpool. The fun starts at about the 1:45 mark of this clip.
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If only Spurs had known that the key to making Darren Bent effective is to leave foreign objects lying around
near the goal. BumperSoccer!
That'll spice the game up for the American market.
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For what it's worth
MLBTR is reporting that Johjima has opted out of his contract and the M’s are perhaps free from the salary.
by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I just made a FanShot about that, since LaRue put it on the TNT blog
Interesting…
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but mine was made before yours I'm so fast at internet I'm awesome yay me
More to the point, nobody reads FanShots anyway
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
you're all special internet snowflakes
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by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They cite a press release, but I'm not seeing one
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Not seeing anything on the team site, either
But it could’ve just broke.
Yet another reason I can't stand football
I get that sports are results-based, and I get that football has a really damn short season which adds an extra layer to that results-based pressure. But after week 1 they’re already talking about who will and won’t make the playoffs, and who is and isn’t on the hot seat, and that just ramps up after…hell, I don’t even know what week of the season it is now but overreaction seems to be the primary mode of thinking in the NFL and it’s annoying.
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Yeah but that order's decided before game 1 is even played
so it’s more of a question of the hilarity that ensues during the whole thing.
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I'm just saying, there's an awful lot of overreaction there....
Gareth Southgate is the best young manager in England. Gareth Southgate sucks.
Yay! Iain Dowie saved the season! How soon can we fire Iain Dowie (as an aside, it is impossible to fire Iain Dowie too early)? Man U are vulnerable! Man U are invulnerable!
This is definitely true
I was happy to see no ENGLAND WILL DEFINITELY WIN THE WORLD CUP THIS YEAR headlines after they won all but one of their qualifiers – in past years they’d be planning parade routes right about now.
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And then when they lose to Brazil/Portugal/Whoever
the litany of reasons that England can’t compete, and how they’re second rate, and their manager’s incompetent. You know the dance.
Fuck Ken Whisenhunt for blitzing with a 24 point lead and 5 minutes left in the game.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
And
for that schoolyard bullshit kickoff. Play football damnit!
The Hawks should be better.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 19, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
So how many awesome bands did you see this weekend?
I always take for granted how amazing the Dirtbombs are live. Then I see them and I’m blown away again by their awesomeness.
Side note: it’s very odd going to a rock show at 3pm.
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Lots!
(nice to meet you)
Bands that impressed: Strange Boys, Davila 666, Sonic Chicken 4, King Khan and BBQ show.
Bands that sucked will not be mentioned here because I’m sure their parents love them.
Some photos.
ac, please tell me you went to see Davila 666 last night at the Funhouse.
I'm glad you liked Sonic Chicken 4
My sister knows one of the guys in that band. I know my sister’s taste in music and that alone was enough to make me not want to see them, but maybe I’ll revisit that stance and check ’em out.
And yeah, AC, if you didn’t see Davila you missed out. Hat tip to marc w (nice to meet you too!) for that one.
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She knows French people? I mean, come on. Can you ever really KNOW a French person?
They’re from Perpignon, and the only other band I’ve ever heard of from there is also a garage band (though much, much more punk). Makes me think it’s like the Medway of France.
That video is high comedy
So awesome.
“WHOA! WOO!”
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Grizzly Bear!
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by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 19, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to go Point Break or Predator.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Hot Fuzz count?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Oct 19, 2009 10:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Then it's that
with Dark Knight right there.
The dark horse: Courage Under Fire.
But seriously, the answer is Road House.
God I love Road House.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Aliens.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Terminator
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the first one almost as much.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm always torn
The first one is much more tense, and comes across almost like an action-thriller with the way it’s set up. Plus, it was made in the mid-80’s which automatically makes it a bit more awesome because of the technology
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know.
The Rock?
I don’t think I’ve seen any “action movies” since Bruce Willis 4. Wait, Dark Knight, nevermind…
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
When I think of The Dark Knight I don't think of a action movie.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Same, which is why I didn't say it
Semantics, though
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I know - But when I think of Dark Knight I think of great film making
And when I think of Action movies I think of Patrick Swayze.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Ballsy move by Verizon to directly attack the iPhone with their new ads and to show them during prime viewing hours.
The new phone they have coming is amazing though
Boy Genius Report outed some details and pictures on Sunday, and I’m thoroughly impressed. They can’t stop gushing about it, either
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Overrated
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I might be able to survive that
I could probably get by with just a data-only plan on my iPhone. I use less than 200 minutes a month, and only send about 750 text messages. There are other methods for communicating with just data-only, but I can’t get that plan unless I can prove that I’m deaf, which isn’t likely
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I gathered as much
I’m just saying I could probably make do on that
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not the least bit exageratting when I say that not having a phone for this long is worse than the holocaust
I literally hate talking on the phone
It’s one of the worst things ever.
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor Data
He just wanted to be human.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm very intrigued by Android, and 2.0 might get it close enough that I'll consider picking one up
All the phones for it right now are just not doing it for me though. Even the Hero (not the shitty Sprint version, but the sexy Euro one) runs on dated hardware, and that is making me hesitant to get on board. Hopefully the Verizon “Droid” ends up as good as it is supposed to be, and ends up on AT&T at some point because it looks killer
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Super stoked
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Verizon was late to the good-smartphone party
but they’re pretty much setting up to destroy the competition at this point. I hope they do it.
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I expect the iTablet to end up with them as well
Keep an eye out for T-mobile as well. They are on the verge of announcing a death blow to Sprint
Sprint is so fucked
Project Dark sounds pretty great, although it does nothing to address T-Mo’s lack of future planning. This will boost them greatly for the next 3-5 years, but when everybody else upgrades their networks, T-Mobile will be in some trouble.
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Hemorrhaging money/customers
Pre wasn’t the boon that they hoped it would be and they are about to lose the exclusivity agreement with it. Shame because they had the best prices/technology of all the carriers
Where is WiMax up and running?
And how far outside of say, central Seattle does it operate? Kent? West Seattle? Shoreline? Edmonds?
And by Bellingham I mean that's it
Seattle city center should be getting it end by end of 09. The east side 6 months after that.
And more in relation to the link Robert posted,
TMO is about to unleash “Project Dark” which gives customers 3 types of unlimited-use plans to choose from (and SUPER cheap, at that). Also, customers have the option of paying for their cell phone in monthly installments with their bill instead of all up-front. Lastly, they will begin rolling out an updated network with 3G speeds up to 5x faster than anybody else has currently.
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't believe T-Mobile's doing that.
I’d basically become convinced that they were abandoning the US market. I guess not.
I may have to stick with them for an Android phone and an all-in plan that cheap.
Still, depends on how soon they can get kick-ass android phones to market here.
But everything that they're touting as better then the iphone.
Non tech geek people don’t care about.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It trickles down though
I’m not a tech geek, and I’m not even really interested in owning a smartphone. But I do know that what the tech geeks do with Android and all that open-platform stuff eventually becomes robust application goodness.
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Which is great. And having competition is never a bad thing.
But most people don’t go out and search for that type of stuff to add to their phones.
I didn’t when I had my last smart phone. But I’m glued to my iphones screen 24/7 now.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Overall I love my phone but there are some things about it that bug the hell out of me.
I’m a happy iPhone user but I doubt I will stick with it once my contract is up.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm curious - What exactly bugs you?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I really dislike the keyboard, for one.
The thing that makes me most envious of Pre owners is the physical keyboard.
The ability to run more than one application at once would be nice. It crashes a lot. I’ve had problems lately with the home button; sometimes I will have to push very, very hard to get a response. The battery life is kind of a joke and since I lost the wall charger and don’t want to pay $30 for a replacement it takes forever and a day to charge (and I will take most of the blame for that one.) It’s a bitch to keep the screen clean but I’ve never been able to put a cover on without having air bubbles between the screen and the protector.
Like I said, I’m happy with it, but not gaga-in-love-with-it. I’ll definitely look at whatever model is out when the time comes, but I’ll look at the competitors also.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Physical Keyboard on the Pre doesn't help in landscape mode :)
And running the separate applications in the background would kill your battery.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if there is proper memory management
I think that the Pre’s keyboard is pretty much the pits but people who use it say they get used to it after a while
Except it doesn't kill your battery actually
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends what the processes are doing.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I normally have six or seven aps up all the time
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
My last phone ran on depleted Uranium pellets or something
I would literally spend nearly an entire day browsing the web on my Nokia E71 and not hardly touch the battery indicator. I would regularly forget my charger on weekend trips to see my fiancee and not have to even worry about it. All this while running a few apps at all times in addition to browsing and texting
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You echo my feelings on it exactly
To be completely honest, I only purchased the iPhone because app support for other phones (on AT&T at least) is a complete joke. I couldn’t get useful apps for anything on my Nokia, and the browser was pretty slow. Apps and web browsing are the only things I enjoy about my phone.
Much like the iPod/iPhone accessories market makes it tough for me to be a Zune owner. It’s a huge pain in the ass to find any kind of accessory for my Zune, especially speaker docks and the like.
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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Still won't have the UI that the iphone has.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Every doubt I had about the iphone (which I finally pulled the trigger on)
Change the moment it became my phone the phone I use every day.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone ever played the "Gothic" series of cRPGs?
Picked up the “compilation” pack for five bucks and was wondering if any of the games were worth spending any time.
I love Gothic.
They are really dense, and definitely not for everyone, but Gothic 1and 2 are probally the best games I have ever played. They looked dated when released, and have some technical problems, but the underlying game is just totally magnificent.
50!
I kind of like KEXP's song of the day today.
Surprising, as I usually steer far away from this stuff. It may just be something that interests me in passing though. I’m listening to the rest of the album right now and it’s just not doing it for me.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
The Blakes?
This is a pretty decent song, why is the rest of the album not working for you? I don’t really have an opinion of them one way or another…
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No, it's the Le Loup one.
The Blakes didn’t really interest me much.
There isn’t a whole lot that’s really struck me in the podcasts so far. It seems like a lot of them sound mostly the same.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
That's KEXP these days though
they have really homogenized their sound over the last few years. Which is great if you live in Brooklyn and all your friends are in bands, I guess.
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I live close enough to Brooklyn
and most of the people I know in bands seem to want to integrate world music for its own sake. We are the place that gave birth to Vampire Weekend after all.
You’re right about the homogenization though…. ugh… do you have any other recommendations as far as stations go, preferably ones I could stream online?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
WFMU
and you can probably get that over the air (91.1 FM, from Jersey City) but if not they’re at wfmu.org.
Don’t get me started about Vampire Weekend. hahaha.
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So they took the one clever thing they did on the album and repeated in four variations.
And now I hate them.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Since 70something percent of you want the Angels to win you don't deserve gamethreads
by Graham MacAree on Oct 19, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Weaver praying at the Adenhart picture, then writing "NA" in the dirt, then giving up a bomb to Jeter on his third pitch.
So I turn 19 in two weeks.
That means it will be time to make my voyage to Canada for legal drinking. Any advice for me from those who have also made the trip?
I cannot emphasize enough how good of an idea this is
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Do not insult the Canadian one-dollar coin in your chosen drinking establishment
by insinuating that the animal depicted thereon is a duck. If you do this, do not repeat it several times over the course of an hour. Of this all I can say is that Canadian bouncers are rough.
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I would say get shots and hookers.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Street parking is free at night so if you are clever you can get a free nights stay Chateau Automobile and get to spend more money at the establishments that are 100% less douchey than their American conterparts
This doesn't really apply to drinking in Canada
but a fun thing to do on your first “big night out” is to sign your name on a napkin or drink coaster after every drink you take. Watch as your signature slowly disintegrates into some random scribbles.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that CBS.com has full episodes of shows
but if I have to see that god damn Chevron commercial with the break dancing dog again, I will break something. I would welcome anything at this point, including Geico googly eyes.
I love googly eyes.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This is awesome.
Although it would’ve been even more priceless if they did this after the end of the 2008 season.
Recently I've come to realize that I get the same feeling when I see Freddie start jawing with an official as I get when Hass starts to run out of the pocket.
NOTHING GOOD WILL COME OF THIS
Yes, my buddies and I were screaming at him to shut it during the KC game.
Luckily the refs just carded Vagenas. THERE IS NO UPSIDE TO BITCHING
Be prepared for pink Fulham hats everywhere any day now
The Red Sox ownership signed a marketing deal with Fulham today. Prepare for the onslaught of Fulhamania. Or something.
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I don't understand this.
What’s Boston get out of this?
I’d also dispute that they’re now “work[ing] with one of the top football clubs in London.”
Close ties with wonder-striker Chris Dempsey!
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Clint.
Maybe help Eddie Johnson do something against opposition a little above the level of Grenada/Panama
Who the fuck cares what his name is he's bad
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Now you have your very own bad English player in David Beckham
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not for long!
He’s on his way back to Milan as soon as the season ends, again.
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Was Beckham good at one point?
Or has he always never been as good as the hype?
by Mariner John on Oct 20, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He is an extraordinarily gifted distributor of the ball who can't do much of anything else
He was good when he was younger and could get past players or move faster into space. As an old man, not so much.
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Beckham was quite good at one or two things
and when I say “quite good” I mean “best in the world”, but again, only at a couple things. He was great at set plays, and he was fantastic at passing the ball from his midfield position. He was never much of a runner, though, and as he’s gotten older that’s only gotten worse – he doesn’t move all that far from his spot during most games, compared to a Cesc Fabregas type of midfielder who ranges all over the place.
Beckham in his prime could not carry a team all by himself, like a Rooney or a Cristiano Ronaldo can, but when surrounded by good players who knew where he liked to put the ball Beckham was an unstoppable force. He’s still quite useful, but nowhere near what his reputation would suggest.
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So he's like David Ortiz to a certain extent?
by Mariner John on Oct 20, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Connections to another venerable club?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Venerable in the sense of 'old' or 'old and accomplished?'
They got an association with the former, not the latter (and I kind of like Fulham).
Reading that press release, it seems like they made the move because Fulham has an old stadium too. Craven Cottage is pretty cool, but… Fulham? Fulham?
Bolton’s older, West Ham’s been more successful, etc.
They have an old, uncomfortable, overrated stadium
Just like Fenway!
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But Fenway doesn't have a cottage so maybe that's why they're getting involved
they’re going to export the cottage itself to the Fenway grounds and put the Beer Works in it!
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That was cheesy
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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now your puns are just getting in the whey.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 20, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy Tech announcement overload.
27inch iMac, Multi touch mouse, Canon release new camera that blew my pants off and sony has a huge camera announcement at 11am.
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So yeah, that new iMac is sex on wheels
That thing packs a pretty good whallop for a decent price. I want to touch one.
The Canon 1D Mark IV
Can shoot full 1080p at iso 6400 with no noise.
Basically it can see in the dark.
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2009/10/19/lights-out-camera-action/
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention how good of a still camera it is.
But I don’t care about that so much.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
If I had the money to be into gadgetry, I'd buy it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
I can at least justify the purchase by being able to make money with it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
"$4,999 body only"
That would be roughly my entire bank account at the moment.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
My brother has enough L glass
That I would only need the body. But I believe its going to be a tandem purchase.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Angels fans would NEVER stand for a closer who appears to be cheating by putting a foreign substance on the baseball.
There is also this part of the article
Elsewhere in the Premier League today, Aston Villa beat Chelsea 2-1. Whilst the threat posed to the Big Four by Manchester City has been discussed at length this season, were people naive to write off Villa after their opening day defeat to Wigan? And are flaws beginning to emerge in Carlo Ancelotti’s Chelsea side?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Not as big as the Ares V.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 20, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Or Space-X will just be awesomer than everyone when they get the Falcon IX in orbit for like $40
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't the decision supposed to come this month?
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 20, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
The Falcon IX needs a lot more work before it will be able to reach orbit.

by Teej on Oct 20, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm retroactively nominating you for Commenter of the Year
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If I win, I'll make sure to vomit during the presentation.
by Teej on Oct 20, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SB's just saying that so that he can get a reality TV show out of this
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Great moments in baseball history...
The first Pedro Calderon podcast!
by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions
Uh....
The beginning sounds like it was recorded inside a luxury car commercial or possibly a pinball machine.
Aside from that, Pedro has a pretty good radio voice… He did just make a bad pun about Tom Tango though.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
I may have to give it a listen later
Although I’d expect nothing more than the usual mischaracterizations of “Moneyball” and obsessive references to Beane/Shapiro/DePodesta.
by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
You get that.
There was a misrepresentation of DePodesta talking about picking up defective players or some such thing and the idea of Moneyball being bad and all that.
He’s also… very deliberate… in how he speaks. The podcast makes him sound downright reasonable. Repetitive, but reasonable.
Some silly claims though. “In a division that does not have a Yankees or a Phillies team that spends a considerable amount of money, why is it that we need to Moneyball?”
First off, the Angels say hello. Second, the Moneyball is just a basis, because we do have money to spend, it’s a means of getting pieces in place that we don’t have to spend a great deal of money on so that we can better allocate these resources that we have. That seems to go over Pedro’s head though. He seems to think that every new player acquired is going to be like Jack or Josh Wilson.
But cripes, I mean, we’ve been all over this before…
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
This was recorded before Joh opted out.
Or else he’s completely unaware of it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
He probably thinks it doesn't matter
since Jack Z will just use the money to upgrade our UZR at the expense of offense since that’s what “Moneyball” is “all about.”
by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't think Hardy is good because he lost his job to a rookie.
He also doesn’t think that Saunders is a prospect on the level of Jones/Choo and that the M’s shouldn’t have the patience to develop him.
He is complimentary about Gutierrez though. Really wants Felix to be re-signed too, but who doesn’t?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Your summary
is great; thanks for taking one for the team on this.
by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Has he ever commented on LL? How can we get this to happen?
I work here: http://tinyurl.com/yfxlyhh
by .Taylor on Oct 20, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Because it would be funny?
I work here: http://tinyurl.com/yfxlyhh
by .Taylor on Oct 20, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
A current list of things I have in my cupboard to be drank
please tell me what you think if you’ve tried them
Lost Abbey/Port
Angel’s Share
Cuvee de Tomme
Older Viscosity
Devotion
Avant Garde
Jolly Pumpkin
Calabaza Blanca
Oro de Calabaza
Bam Biere
Bam Noire
La Roja
Deschutes
Black Butte XXI
Mirror Mirror
Bruery
Hottenroth Berliner Weisse
Barrel-Aged Autumn Maple
Other
Maredsous 8
Pike Brewing – Naughty Nellie
Bear Republic – Racer 5
Ballast Point – Black Marlin
Kona – Pipeline Porter (!)
Karl Strass – Oktoberfest
So it’s occurred to me that I have a lot of beer…
There are 71 bottles in the beer boxes in our apartment.
Not including ones on the rack or the floor.
I was really hoping for 100.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
71 bottles of beer on the floor, 71 bottles of beeeeeer
Pick one up, put it back down, 71 bottles of beer on the floor!
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
What a waste of an education. Jeebus
Now I have to start over, thanks smart ass.
by Kermit. on Oct 20, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Black Butte XXI is indescribably amazing
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew I should have bought more than one bottle =(
I went back two days later and it was all gone
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That isn't beer, that's an investment. Nice list.
Racer 5 is tops, other than that your list depresses me. There’s narrowly defined tastes, and then there’s stagnation. Ugh.
Poorly worded, my taste in beer is stuck on hops. So pretty much IPA, maybe a few reds.
Sb’s list has a lot of variety, I’m envious.
That reminds me, I keep meaning to recommend Elysian’s Prometheus. The guy that put me onto it explained that it’s a knock off of Big Time’s Scarlet Fire, hence the name.
I let it play for like 20 minutes last night while I was doing a bunch of nothing
Get on my horse, I’ll take you ’round the univerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrse
Also, kinda NSFW everybody, but only briefly and you don’t have to watch it to get all the enjoyment
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
*dirty
I’d better not show you where the lemonade’s made mmmm sweet lemonade yeah sweet lemonade
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Score one for the senior citizens
Chris Chelios is BACK, beeeyotches! And by BACK I mean “”http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=4580180" target="new">playing unaffiliated junior hockey". Still, most 47 year olds are playing in weekend rec leagues at that point in their lives, so good for him I guess.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Looks like most of the pundits picked the wrong team to drop out of the Big Four, eh?
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
I stand by my earlier prediction that Arsenal will finish 6th or 7th
but by that same token it wouldn’t at all surprise me if Liverpool were down there too.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
This is actually shaping up to be the most interesting Premiership season since the Premiership started
There’s still a gap between the haves and the have-nots, but that gap is shrinking; the Big Four could easily become the Medium-Sized Seven or so by next season. The smaller teams are learning not to be afraid of the big boys, and that’s leading to…well, it’s leading to some desperately poor football that produces results for the small clubs, which ultimately is what matters.
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You're going to relegate them?
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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I also need to mention that the Rangers game featured 3 own-goals.
Wonder what the record is for a european cup match?
That's comedy gold right there
I don’t know what the record is but that’s gotta be right up there.
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Barca do not appear to be embarking on a hilarious voyage of self-destruction
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Lyon>>>>>>>>Kazan, whoever they are
And as hilarious as that beachball thing was, Liverpool will be fine.
It's not just the beachball, though.
I mean, they lost to Villa.
What Big 4 team does that?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick, without looking, name 5 players on City's first team.
Go!
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Ireland, Given, Lescott, Robinho, Bellamy
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Then I'm turning this blog around and taking you home RIGHT NOW
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Niall Quinn, Paul Dickov
oh wait you meant on the current first team.
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Ireland, Given, Lescott, Robinho, Bellamy
duh
by Robert on Oct 20, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What's Given's first name no cheating NOW
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So close but so not Shay which is the correct answer
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I reserve the right to change my favorite team if my friend from HS and I can decide on another one
Villa and Arsenal are finalists!
I'd go with Blackburn Rovers myself
they’re in 13th place. Pretty much always. They never threaten the European places and they never really get in terribly serious relegation trouble, they’re pretty much the replacement-level Premiership side.
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A replacement level side is whoever got promoted.
Blackburn gets you the only non-big-four premiership title ever, the ubercool Morten Gamst Pedersen, Big Sam Allerdyce, and a long history. They’re clearly better than replacement level. And they’re also clearly more noteworthy than Fulham, to go back to an earlier thread…..
I'm reserving this right, too.
I’ve half-settled on Liverpool, but if they end up in a huge(er) financial mess and sell Torres and Gerrard, I’m rebooting and trying again.
I've found my new winter cycling clothing
Weatherproof three-piece cycling suit? Check. Now all I need is a deerstalker hat and a Rollie Fingers mustache.
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I'd wear it.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I would totally wear it if I were rich and had the money to spend on it.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
My macbook is fucking with me.
When I use 4 fingers to see all the programs I have open and click on Firefox, it doesn’t actually open Firefox, it just hides it in the background. Is there some sort of setting I accidentally enabled? I don’t want to use Safari.
As an IT person who specializes with Microsoft environments
all I can tell you to remedy your problem is to sacrifice three goats to the computer gods.
I don't have a macbook
but what I’ve noticed on my iMac is that if you minimize a program it doesn’t come back up when you alt-tab between programs, it just behaves as you describe; maybe the four-finger functionality is the same way? Maximize Firefox and then try it, maybe?
But now I’m a bit confused as to what it is you’re trying to do. Are you trying to see if FF is already open, or are you trying to open it with no luck? All else fails, force-quit FF and start over.
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I feel mildly retarded now
Apparently the window was over as far to the right as possible and I had to drag it out. I never actually drug it over there so I was a little perplexed.
by Mariner John on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
One time my friend hid firefox from me using (what would have been) the HDMI function.
I didn’t find it for two weeks :(
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Oct 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, Buzz Bissinger, don't you ever shut up?
or are you just trying to draw attention to yourself again?
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
I am constantly amazed by the total inability of people to understand anything at all about that book.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
IT'S A ROADMAP TO WINNING THE WORLD SERIES EVERY YEAR WRITTEN BY BILLY BEANE
WHAT’S NOT TO UNDERSTAND? sheeesh.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
They really screwed up the biggest market inefficiency of all
The draft
by Graham MacAree on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There we go!
The draft is an equalizer, and using statistical data along with scouting data is really great, and can help find undervalued talents. But you first need to know where the error bars are, and you need to pick the right undervalued skills.
I am utterly mystified by this as well
the whole point of the book is to be efficient and think for yourself as how to best win baseball games. Michael Lewis just illustrates Beane’s particular way of doing it, saying that he feels forced to pursue this because he has no money.
by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Most people think
that “win baseball games” automatically equals “win world series”, though, and the failure of the A’s to do that in the “Moneyball era” is seen by most as an indictment of the process as a whole, because nobody takes the time to understand it.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Again, I think you can have really intelligent critiques of the book or of the A's strategy in general
but the ‘critiques’ we get are so laughably bad. I think that’s unfortunate.
Hahaha
the URL ends in “horsesex20m.html”
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Say!
“Ryan Rowland-Smith will join Kevin Calabro and Shannon Drayer live and in studio from 4-5 tomorrow (Wed) on 710 ESPN.”
Anybody listen to Dizzee Rascal?
I discovered “Boy in da’ Corner” about 3 weeks ago and have been spinning it non-stop.
The Hawks should be better.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 20, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions
And, for your WTF moment of the day:
#6- Who in the world would you least like to match up against in a soccer game?
Kasey Keller: Jeffrey Dahmer
by redwolf75 on Oct 20, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I find Ted Bundy more intimidating.
At least Dahmer didn’t bury his victims and then come back later to dig up and rape the bodies. He instead kept them for ready access in his fridge and closet. Plus, Bundy is local, yo. Gotta’ keep it real, WEST COAST! Fuck those wannabe Midwestern serial killers.
Hey, T-town pride and all that, but Dahmer is a totally acceptable answer here.
I WILL say that ain’t no sniper like a T-Town sniper.
Well jeez, the guy announces he's leaving it's not like he owes anybody anything.
Churlish, that’s the word that comes to mind right there.
This would suck
Elliott Bay Books is thinking about moving. I hope they find a way to stay in the square – it’s a good bookstore, and it was a great location for it.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Saunders has started playing for the Lara Cardenales
First two games: 9 AB, 4 H, HR, 4 RBI, 3/0 K/BB, .444/.444/.778
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
He can't hit in the Majors though
What a bum
by Graham MacAree on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Having a soccer game start at 9.30AM
is about as weird as having an East Coast M’s game start at 10AM. But still, ManUre are playing in Moscow right now in case you’re interested.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
CSKA has never lost at home in the CL!
United are nearly winless in Moscow in the CL – the final two years ago is pretty much the only time they’ve won there. The weather doesn’t appear to be horrid, though, so that’s unfortunate.
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Doesn't make a difference one way or the other though
This is one of those games where I was rooting for injuries.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
People find celebrities and TV personalities attractive
some are less discriminating than others as far as where their attractions lead them.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
I just saw a great descripton from Mark Kreigel back when Phillips had to take leave for the harrassment suit filed by a Mets ST receptionist
and Phillips insisted it was a consensual affair, and then (for not good reason) admitted to to a number of previous ones…. Kreigel called him “the serial consensual philanderer”
You'd think that alums would get the best seats
time to start giving to the alumni association!
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Maurice Sendak is my new hero
Parents who are worried about exposing their precious little kiddies to the dark tone of the movie of Where The Wild Things Are can “”http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/oct/20/maurice-sendak-wild-things-hell" target="new">go to hell".
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I remember a similar backlash to the new Willy Wonka.
Although I found Gene Wilder to be pretty creepy watching it when I was a kid.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
The new Willy Wonka was toothless compared to the old one (although not a bad movie)
I love the original like almost no other film. Gene Wilder gives a phenomenal performance in that movie. I love the fact that there exists a children’s movie which contains a scene with a chicken getting its head cut off.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Ohh, that's a good idea.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Not everyone felt that way.
Just don’t expect the same magical, enchanting, heart warming adventure that was present in the Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory movie. … the character of Willy Wonka should be the loveable, happy go lucky candy maker that every child wants to meet
http://www.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1146613/content_250838552196
This was actually a fairly common line when the movie came out. It was really based in that people wanted to remember only the “happy go lucky” parts of the first movie, but existed nonetheless.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
As I recall from the original there were like two happy go lucky scenes
that is one dark film. Which is why it’s great.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
The book was scary, too, for fuck's sake. That's half the point.
Like the Willy Wonka thing, it seems a lot of people are misremembering the original work.
That book is scary? Seems kind of tame especially when compared to more traditional fare like Grimm's Fairy Tales.
Or some of the classic Disney movies like Dumbo, or the Sorcerers Assistant.
Huh, I'm looking at a book of Grimms tales that has been rewritten, and is now G rated.
This is disappointing.
Or even the old english nursery rhymes
Lots of beatings, laughing at the unfortunate, etc. They’ve generally been touched up to make them palatable to modern ears.
The old elephant biddies mock him cruelly, the nightmare/dream sequence.
The elephants on the march appears to be inspired by an acid trip, pretty noisy as well. It can be frightening to small children.
The first, second and third times I saw Two Brothers I cried like a baby.
I saw it for the first time at the age of 24.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 21, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait until I get to see PG movies!
by .Taylor on Oct 21, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
When people figure out that you're 28
… and taking a second trip through H.S. because you’re laid off and why the hell not, I’m going to laugh.
Obligatory Wooderson!
I get older, they stay the same age.
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I can't remember whether I'm supposed to like the Phillies or not
because there’s so many threads on who I’m supposed to be rooting for and hating, but I just read this and it cracked me up. Like a little grease will stop a drunkard from getting up a light pole.
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Things like this make me yearn for winning the 2006 basketball national championship
we had a riot-in-a-box all ready to go, too. Roman candles, sparklers, a few low fireworks, lighters and a ton of alcohol.
Needless to say, they never got used.
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
In case anyone figured out, my team was on the losing end of the 2006 national championship game
they were also on the losing end of the 2008 national championship game, apparently.
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You could have used them to destroy cars in anger
wasted opportunity!
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I wish
I wasn’t even angry after the game. Just sad. I was angry after Memphis Kansas eliminated us in 2008 though
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a tough pill to swallow I am sure.
I mean going winless was rough but it seems preferable to losing in the title game.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 21, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
At least if you go winless you know early on that you aren't going to win it all
if you get all the way to the last five seconds of the title game with the lead and then lose, it really sucks
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't imagine what that must feel like.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 21, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose you could know what that feels like
when you lose all your games, that’s lots of opportunities for heartbreak
by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I can show you!
You can actually pinpoint the exact moment when SB’s heart breaks into two.

by Robert on Oct 22, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I had the biggest motor I could find lined up as my "Blue Thunder" SBXL celebration
The fuse finally fell off last year. I was sad.
Hill/Aumont have had better days
Game’s still going, but… yeeesh.
No Ackley today. And Josh Fields only gave up a solo HR, so that’s decent. Hey, nice GB ratio for Hill as well.
Well, at least now I know
what I’ll be having for lunch.
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The top of that sandwich looks pretty tasty...
Then I scrolled down and saw the rest of it.
Great Grandma’s bloomers.
New quiz!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions
You need a nametag.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Well now I'll have to mute the television rather than just tune out the words
by Graham MacAree on Oct 22, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
He'll probably go the Bret Boone route and say about one line every two innings
I was really hoping Boone would go off the rails on the air, and I would love it if Guillen would but you know he won’t.
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Ozzie Guillen is the David J. Corcoran of Major League Baseball
by Graham MacAree on Oct 22, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
He likes to drive around a lot?
Get sudden random cravings for (McDonald’s)?
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, yes....especially since Scooter was an animated baseball. :)
Obviously I’m biased because Ozzie Guillen was not only my childhood shortstop, but also the manager who led my team to the World Series….
But I gotta say that Fox does a really superb job of putting crap on the air 90% of the time.
This move, albeit “annoying” for most people, is great for ratings and to mix it up a bit. I’m very much looking forward to seeing Ozzie in this role. I’m sure he’ll have detailed rules in his contract – such as, “No fag-calling, even if you’re aptly referring to Jeter and Swisher.”
Should be interesting at the very least.
by homesickalien on Oct 22, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we make an Ozzie Guillen broadcasting drinking game?
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is my game:
Drink yourself to death whenever Ozzie opens his mouth. It’s better that way.
by Graham MacAree on Oct 22, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hello strange new board!
Unfortunately for you all someone on McCovey Chronicles mentioned the high quality of the posting content here, and so I’ve been sent over in an attempt to bring down the general IQ of lookoutlanding.
In a very amazing coincidence, “Look out! Landing!” is what I used to yell out the window of my rented Cessna 152 when I was practicing landing in my days of flying lessons.
In other coincidental news, I have been in Seattle a few times. I also hate sunny days, but I love quiet walks on the beach, but only in violent storms accompanied by snow and tsunamis.
Apparently there are some winemakers here. I too enjoy that hobby.
I’m looking forward to reading what fans of a real baseball franchise think about baseball. The Giants, for having a joke of a franchise and a general manager with the intellect of a brain damaged hummingbird, have a passionate fan base, even though we know nothing about baseball, other than it counts as one point if the guy with the stick hits the ball over the fence, and old guys who don’t hit the ball with the stick well are deserving of many millions of dollars each year.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
Thank you.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Please use the subject line for comments here
It makes finding comments a lot easier when moderating. Thanks!
by Graham MacAree on Oct 22, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
As you wish
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
This time last year we were in exactly the same boat as the Giants
Times can change fast
by Graham MacAree on Oct 22, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners are not actually not-a-joke just yet
They’re getting more serious, but on a scale of 1-10, where 1 is Dane Cook and 10 is Monty Python, they’re still about a 5 or 6 (droll-and-unfunny New Yorker cartoon) as far as franchises go – a few more years like last year, though, and they might actually be a serious team.
Welcome to LL. Please list your five favorite beers so that we may judge your overall worth as a human being*
*kidding. Mostly
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
I wish I'd seen this before posting my beer choices
I just stuffed two muffins in my keyboard. Let me know when they arrive.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners (and that's a cool name for a baseball team) are way less a joke than the Giants
Though the for being a joke the Giants are quite unfunny.
As for beer, well, let’s see……..
1) Olympia
2) Hamms
3) Raaaaaay Neeeeeeeeeeeeeer Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
4) Guinness
5) Coors light
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never heard of it.
It must be one of those cheap, crappy beers, of the kind I’m not used to drinking.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the cut of your jib sir
I have no idea what a badly cut jib looks like, so take that for what it’s worth I guess.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Sir is so very formal
SF will work.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Allrighty then
now, about those beer selections.
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I don't know what one looks like either.
In fact I’ve never even been to a bris.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bris is the French spelling of "bree"
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well of course he's never been to Bree, hobbit villages are fictional
by OlSalty on Oct 22, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fucking hell.
I meant “brie”
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What's a poop deck?
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
something I wouldn't want to sit on in a camp chair, that's for sure.
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And not using the space bar.
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by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bud Light Lime.
I set the bar low. Now jump over it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll see your Bud Light Lime and lower you a rung or two
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I sent this to my wife the other day from the store where she sent me to pick up Jubelale
I said they were out but would this do as an alternative. Oddly she didn’t see the humor!
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Just make sure that you get specifics
when I say “first round’s on me”.
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That'll look funny with that bottle of Dom I bought for you
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In some cultures that's a sign of respect, you know.
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Shotgunning 120 could quite possibly kill you.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Just wait til Black Tuesday
by the way, only FIVE MORE DAYS
and if anyone wants a bottle, speak now or forever hold your peace (until next year)
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we should get it up here.
We get other Bruery beers.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Brewery release only, 600 bottles
at least the first year
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone like AC post the ratebeer link, it's inexplicably blocked at work
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to create a script to display a ratebeer Z-score for all the beers
it’s like style %, but more statsy. Of course this assumes that ratebeer beer distributions are normal, which I kind of doubt, but whatever.
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad there isn't a way to sort by individuals with similar taste
Seems like that would be a decent approach for a subjective thing like beer preference.
I generally look at "style %" more closely than overall percentile.
People aren’t real good at grading based on expectation at Rate Beer.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay me then.
I will repay you as well as purchase a bottle of a not-available-in SoCal beer of choice for your trouble.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Edited - I will do my best, but no guarantees
it sounds like this is going to be a pretty hot release
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
My bag up to Seattle is going to be ridiculously heavy
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Ship all your clothes and just travel with beer
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Lose 75 lb as an offer to make up the difference and hope you don't get charged
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How receptive is your community to lovable subversive trolls that enjoy other sports quite a bit more than baseball and likely has a disorder in his blood brain barrier?
You guys will end up rooting for the Giants
And the rest of your lives will be pure misery, alleviaed by amazing pitching every 5th day.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Could've been every 2 out of 5 days.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I was talking about Tim.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Could've been 3 days!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey remember when Morrow was going to come in and do something good?
Start, close, set up, run around in circles, whatever.
alleviated.
I assumed that the spell check was incorrect. Oh arrogant me.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Dont worry about the Giants
I manage them in our Baseball Mogul League and pretty soon it will nothing but smooth sailing for you guys.
by Robert on Oct 22, 2009 4:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Uh.....
There are other sports than baseball?
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
NASCAR!
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Competitive dominos!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
.....
Is that like Octomom giving birth?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Either that or a bad Sean Connery imitation
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by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh then...
Racoon Fishing!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No you tie beef jerky to the end of a fishing poll
And cast it out into the woods.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The only issue I see with this is the possibility of losing a fishing pole.
Or is there an actual fishing poll? And if so, how does one attach jerky to it? Additionally, I’ve never gotten a call from the Field and Stream survey polling me on fishing.
Now I’m confused.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
After a while the Racoon gets smart and cuts the line with his claws.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This one is over my head.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It wasn't too far, I just really wanted that to be a real thing.
And I wanted to then be told about it. I have to say, I’m a little disappointed.
I used to wrap a fishing line around my finger when I was a kid.
It’s also part of a punchline to a racist joke.
Might also have been a scene in Song of the South.
This information is second hand as I haven’t watched that movie in a long time.
This cracked me up
"Look out! Landing!" is what I used to yell out the window of my rented Cessna 152
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of that intellectual manager of yours...sorry about Buster... why call up a promising prospect if you aren't going to fucking play him???!
(I’m also just a visitor here; else I’d welcome you. I can say, however, that your beer selections are horrendous.)
Cheers!
by homesickalien on Oct 22, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners have experience with that too.
Yay for 31 Saunders AB in September/October
by Mariner John on Oct 22, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw that image this morning.
And came up with the idea of my brother (Pro photographer) taking the same photo of me dressed as a wolf jumping over a fence.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I see no possible way this could end badly
I do, however, see many, many ways it could end hilariously. And by “hilariously” I mean “painfully”.
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I will make sure to post it when it happens.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
When I have insomnia I count wolves jumping over fences
It’s fun to imagine them chasing Brian Sabean. Of course you can substitute your own especially loathed one for Sabean.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
this is the best Scruffy image of all time
by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't take credit for making this.
But it is epic.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Please upgrade your account!
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Right click and open in a new window or tab.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
So now MLB is supposed to be switching out the sceduled WS umpire crew, and going with their top available personnel.
I put up a fanshot with the link, just thought I would mention it here for the regulars that don’t frequently check the main page. Also, link again just to be convenient.
You made a FanShot?
Loser…
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Oct 22, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Apropos of nothing
I just turned on my television to warm it up for the game only to discover a Jennifer Tilly lesbian road trip movie. My eyes started to bleed and when I heard the dialogue my eardrums popped.
Where’s my damn remote!?
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
I put mine in the oven to warm it up.
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by Eyebrows on Oct 22, 2009 4:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Clearly they are legitimate awards if they are announced on Mike and Mike.
Also Branyan is now a finalist for Comeback Player? Zuh?
by Mariner John on Oct 22, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay this show Stormchasers on Discovery is now officially pissing me off
IT’S BEEN 2+ SEASONS QUIT DICKING AROUND AND DRIVE INTO THE FUCKING TORNADO
I thought I was the only one getting pissed at this show.
I want to see a tornado hit that tank already.
Dear newspaper companies:
The solution to the conundrum of “nobody buys our product” is not to keep the quality of your product at the exact same execrable, fifth-grade-gazette level as it has always been (this quality caveat may not apply to papers not called the Oregonian) and charge twice as much for it. $1 for a daily edition? Really? You think that’ll help?
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That's pretty much what I said
I wasn’t even going to buy it to read it – I wanted some newsprint to shove in my soaking wet bike shoes this morning to help dry them out. But I’m not spending $1 for that. I can’t imagine paying $1 a day to read that rag – there are some excellent newspapers in this country, but the Oregonian is most definitely not one of them.
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Not on my way from the coffee place to my office
That was my first thought, but the WW kiosk was across the street and it’s raining like crazy, and I’d just managed to dry myself out from my commute and wasn’t eager to get damp again.
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It saddens me deeply that Starbucks hot chocolate is tastier than that of Stumptown.
by .Taylor on Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions
It shouldn't
The reflexive ZOMG CHAINS ARE ALWAYS EVIL is just as annoying as the ZOMG YANKEES SUCK reflexiveness. If you like it better, that’s great. I love Starbucks hot chocolate.
As a side rant, anybody that’s ever bought anything at a Target or a QFC/Fred Meyer can’t complain about chains being evil.
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Well, too deep a discussion of this might be inappropriate for this here blog
but I disagree to a certain extent with your second paragraph. I don’t necessarily think chains in and of themselves are evil, and I have a bizarre, bordering-on-romantic love for Fred Meyer. With that being said, some chains are completely and totally evil and bad and should never be patronized.
And while this is a matter of personal choice, I will not patronize Starbucks unless I am in an area with no other alternatives. There are things that Starbucks does better than other places, but I think that supporting small, local businesses is worthwhile (and not solely for warm and fuzzy reasons, either) and I am willing to pay more or sacrifice a bit of quality (in certain respects) if I can do so.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I just know so many people that are ultradogmatic about CHAINS ARE EVIL that then go to Target it makes me nuts
In this, as in everything, there’s room for nuance – I love Fred Meyer too, and I had Starbucks hot chocolate this morning. I think supporting small local business is very worthwhile, but what it comes down to for me is that if I don’t like their product I’m not going to buy it just because it’s small and local. There are definitely chains that are better than others, and chains that are neutral, and chains that are worse than others; in this, as in everything, that means to me that blanket statements like “chains are evil” is reductionist and pointless.
In Taylor’s example, given the choice between Stumptown and Starbucks hot chocolate, I’ll take Starbucks every time. But again, that’s just me.
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Target is not the same as Wal-Mart at least
Or maybe I’m just telling myself that because I work there.
by Mariner John on Oct 23, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
In a way this is my point
Target is not the same as Wal-Mart; Target doesn’t have the reputation of ruining small towns and treating their employees like used disposable diapers. But they are both chain stores; this is presumably what ac was referring to (and what I originally meant) when he said some chains are completely and totally evil and bad. Target seems like a more benign chain; they have a good reputation, and thus people who would rather set themselves on fire with a blowtorch than go in to a Wal-Mart store don’t think twice about going to Target.
Which is fine – I’m the same way. it’s when those same people get all “CHAIN STORES ARE EVIL” that they lose me.
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I don't particularly care for
The quality of Target’s clothing. A vast majority of it is made of very thin, cheap material. But they also have a lot of things that I use on a regular basis, and their employees normally seem pretty happy, so I have no problem shopping there for other things.
I try and support small business when I can (I opt for a small store to get coffee from, rather than give Starbucks and their candy-coffeed-rama any of my money), but it is not really affordable for me right now, and sometimes beggars can’t be choosers.
"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz
You should do a best of LL awards post
either that or a beer discussion. Barring that, a Craigslist thread
by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I have one sketched out for Monday.
There are some discussion topics, but there’s nothing about it that’s particularly “topical” in the vein of “this thing just happened and what are your opinions”. Not that we stay on subject all that long anyway.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Throw it up there now, this one's getting full.
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Done.
Whoa now, don’t everybody go getting too excited.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING THING TO HAPPEN SINCE THE LAST EXCITING THING
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Monopoly is slow, boring and too dependent on chance.
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by Eyebrows on Oct 23, 2009 1:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
At the end of the day, Mr. Port says, the whole argument about umpires comes down to this: “Do we want the tradition of 18 people on the field doing their best to help their teams win, officiated by four trained gentlemen also doing their best? Or do we want to translate over to some sort of technologically advanced video endeavor that removes human elements from the game?”
Hell and Yes.

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