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The last one was filling up, and I don't want to see Bruin's LLemmie voting post (go vote already if that's your thing!) get sidetracked with random stuff, so here's a new OFFTOP for all you eager little guys and gals to play with.  What's on my OFFTOP mind this morning?  Hmmmm.

1.  The album's a few months old now, but I've fallen back in love with The Thermals' Now We Can See.  Big, meaty power-pop chords, sharp, clever lyrics, and a relentless beat.  What's not to like?

2.  My entire team is off work on a team-building day at OMSI today.  One of the joys of being a contractor is that I do not get to participate in team-building activities, which normally isn't a problem, but OMSI's pretty cool.  But at least I get the whole floor to myself at work today.  Does your work group ever do any sort of team-building thing?  What's the best one you've ever done? Worst?

3.  It's Garagefest this weekend.  If any of you are going to be in town for it, let me know.

4.  Championship Series favorites?  I'm going with the Dodgers and the Yankees.  But I wouldn't really care if the Phillies won.  Anybody but the Angels, really.

Apart from LL football, anybody else have plans this weekend?  Anything else to talk about?

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That works. We do a lot of that too.

Voodoo Doughnuts is right down the street so at least once a month someone on the floor brings in a box. It’s awesome.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Penis doughnuts?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

So far not.

thankfully.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S A ROCKET SHIP!!!!

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 16, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been trying to get my work to do a team-building paintball outing.

So far, no takers.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 16, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I just want the opportunity to shoot my coworkers without being fired/jailed.

I think they see through my cunning ruse.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 16, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and also

if you’re a Wilco fan they’re playing the Schnitzer in Portland on February 9 – presale today at 10 through Ticketbastard (super-secret surprise sneaky presale code is the acronym of this organization). I guess they’re playing there even if you’re not a Wilco fan, but I’m not going to change the sentence now.

They’re also at the Paramount, on Feb 10. I don’t have presale info for that one.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

THEY'RE PLAYING WITH PARAMORE??!!

BUY BUY BUY!

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyway, to add to pdb's post

Wilco is pretty awesome live. They’re not super high energy, but they’re extremely tight, and they chose their setlists extremely well.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, that's why I'm going

I’m kinda meh about Wilco these days, but they’re an amazingly good live band. And this time ‘round they’re taking requests!

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hello!

1: What’s not to like is the fact that it’s just not nearly as good as their other records, and I don’t think it’s all that melodic. It’s fine. Maybe I should give it another spin, but I haven’t thought about it in months (not a good sign).

2: I used to organize ‘team-building’ outings for Rainiers day games. Haven’t done it in a while; I stopped when I kept getting saddled with unused tickets due to day-of-game cancellations. Easily the best team-building outings I’ve been on, however. There are no activities, no exercises, no management-speak. Just baseball and a beer or two.

3: Yes!

4: Dodgers/Yanks. Big win for Philadelphia last night. Sucks for GS52.

Big Hawks game this weekend. I’m making some Sangiovese. Sounders can clinch a playoff berth. Good stuff all around.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 9:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Listen to the first two songs again

they’re catchy as all hell.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes!

I’ve also got a small bucket of pinot noir fermenting (from the vines in my back yard), and a carboy of syrah from e. washington. Also some zinfandel from california, but maaaaaaaan that produced some hydrogen sulfide and now a part of my basement smells like farts. I’m told this is correctable, but…. seriously. Like a LOT of farts.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

But wait, I haven't finished yet. Maybe it's all awful.

Did another 5 gal. last year, and I still haven’t opened it. I need an oak barrel….

(Seriously though, I’m so happy with the pinot noir. I’m happy with it despite the fact that I didn’t realize until half way through crushing the grapes that the bucket’s spigot was open, and I’d been pouring pinot noir juice literally down the drain. So it’s a small bucket. Anyone else make wine? Any stupid shit that you’ve done in that process?)

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

My parents did a looooong time ago...

They’re friends with a bunch of the winemakers down in the Gorge, though. My cousin’s just starting w/help from some winemakers in Woodinville. So, eventually I may try my hand at some point.

Sangiovese sounds fantastic right about now. You probably already have sources, but I may be able to help track down a barrel.

HAHAHA w/r/t the zin-farts! That’s awesome…

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!

by PositivePaul on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's not awesome. It's really off-putting, despite the Intewebz telling me not to worry. Yet.

Yeah, it’s actually really fun to do.

I think help from winemakers in Woodinville would be awesome. I’ve got help from some other folks around the sound, but we’re all amateurs. It’s cool that some of them have been doing it for 20 years and thus are waaay further along than I am, but we’re all still stumped every once in a while.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Syrah!

I wish I had the time to mess around with wine. My grandma used to do it a little bit because she had a place near a grape growing community on the Olympic Peninsula, but I think that started to go with her memory.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The syrah's looking good. I was fearful that it too stunk of farts, but I discovered last night that that was just

residual H2S from the zinfandel. The syrah’s looking great. I’m going to try at least a small batch of a red blend with sangiovese and syrah.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have about 30 green arbequina olives

I am told they don’t actually ripen to black in the NW, and I am debating if it is worth the effort of brining …. “To pickle the fruit for eating, place your clean olives in cold water and change the water each day for 10 days. Then make a brine solution of one cup of non-iodized salt to each gallon of water, making sure the solution covers the olives. Change this solution weekly for four weeks”

by msb on Oct 22, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You write highly specific OTFPOTDs

1. A few months old? I may have gotten two albums all year that were released in 2009, but that’s usually the case. I’ll give it a spin I guess.

2. For the literary journal I work for, we were supposed to pair up and write someone’s fictional biography using details like “where you were born” “first kiss” and “how you would like to die”. That was pretty awful, though the results were not unbearable. Otherwise, as team-building exercises go, at the magazine, whenever we’re nearly at the deadline, we all break out the baseball gloves and play catch in Riverside Park to take a break. They do other dumb exercises, but most people abandon them within an hour or two. The catch thing at least came about organically.

3. :(

4. Anyone but the Yankees, probably. I can tolerate the Angels winning because of the whole Adenhart thing. Phillies are not extraordinary, but it’s been so long since we’ve had a repeat. As for the Dodgers, I’d get behind them if I felt that the team itself had any distinctive personality and was not a collection of mercs.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Quarto.

It’s a campus undergrad lit mag, may not count. Similarly, the magazine is the alumni magazine, though it’s run by professional journalist types, all but one of whom are hardcore baseball fans.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh No.

A repressed work memory has just been brought to the surface. When I was the Product Manager for Virgin Records SF we had to sit around in a conference room with other managers from other stores. They paired us off and we had to stare into each others eyes without speaking or looking away for five full minutes. That is some straight bullshit. People would burst out crying and all kinds of emotional baggage was strewn on the floor. What that had to to with selling cds I’ll never know.

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 16, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

While it would have been hell to go through

I can imagine a group of suits behind the one-way glass with bags of popcorn.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I bought a case of Bud Light Golden Wheat last night.

Its pretty good and cool that AB is trying to get its feet wet in craft beers (Not saying that this is a craft beer but it is market towards typical Budweiser drinkers and is trying to teach them there is more to beer)

Each bottle has a little sediment at the bottom of the bottle and a explanation of what that is.

It definitely is still a light beer but at least it has some flavor.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I was curious about this beer

I still have yet to try American Ale so I’ll probably give both of them a shot here one of these days.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn't compare to other Wheat beers.

But side by side with other light beers – It blows them out of the water.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Given the context of what this beer is trying to achieve, I’d probably actually step out of my snobbery long enough to at least give it one whirl…

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by PositivePaul on Oct 16, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

“A native of Cheyenne, Wyoming, Ringolsby is a graduate of Cheyenne East High School, and a member of the school’s Hall of Fame. He began his writing career as one-man sports staff for the Wyoming State Tribune, the afternoon newspaper in Cheyenne, the day after he turned 17. Ringolsby is a co-founder of Baseball America, a member of the board of directors for the Professional Baseball Scouts Foundation, and a member of the Society for American Baseball Research since 1979.

Ringolsby is a member of the executive committee of the National Western Stock Show, a member at the benefactor level of the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association, and a member of the board of directors of the Cowboy Joe Club at the University of Wyoming."

by msb on Oct 16, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't he in the HOF as well? Niehaus was hanging out with him this summer when he went into the HOF

I can’t remember now. The paper he’s been working for folded recently, that part I do remember.

by Kermit. on Oct 16, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That passes

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by Corco on Oct 16, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to see "Paranormal Activity" tonight

but I plan on seeing “Where the Wild Things Are” soon. I’m a little concerned about the middling reviews it’s getting, though. I thought this movie was going to be a run-away critic and crowd favorite.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a very strange movie from the reviews I've read

because it’s not a typical warm and fuzzy, kids-and-adults-all-learn-a-lesson-and-bond-at-the-end-with-wackiness type story; I’ve read interviews with Spike Jonze that says he was trying to capture the way it felt to be 9 rather than capturing a story arc. I’m very curious to see if he’s pulled it off.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awKoTDIdKrg

[Eminem as ‘Robert’]
Dear Felix, I wrote but you still ain’t callin
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got ‘em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot ’em
but anyways; fuck it, what’s been up? Man how’s your daughter?
I’m gonna get a pet too, I’m bout to be a father
If I have a cat, guess what I’ma call her?
I’ma name her Felix
I read about Chris Snelling too I’m sorry
I had a friend kill himself after hearing about the M’s trading him
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I’m your biggest fan
I even saw that underground shit that you did with Rene
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the shit you did with Putz too, that shit was fat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Robert

{Chorus: Dido}

[Eminem as ‘Robert’]
Dear Felix, you still ain’t called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain’t mad – I just think it’s FUCKED UP you don’t answer fans
If you didn’t wanna talk to me outside the game
you didn’t have to, but you coulda signed an autograph for me
That’s me man, he’s I act like I’m only six years old
I waited in the blistering cold for you,
four hours and you just said, “No.”
That’s pretty shitty man – you’re like my fuckin idol
I wants to be just like you man, I like you more than your mom does
I ain’t that mad though, I just don’t like bein lied to
Remember when we met in October – you said if I’d write you
you would write back – see I’m just like you in a way
I never knew a winner neither;
We used to always cheat with roids and stuff
I can relate to what you’re doing on the field
so when I have a shitty day, I drift away and watch ‘em
cause I don’t really got shit else so that shit helps when I’m depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It’s like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you cause you tell it
My girlfriend’s jealous cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don’t know you like I know you Felix, no one does
She don’t know what it was like for people like us growin up
You gotta call me man, I’ll be the biggest fan you’ll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Robert — P.S.
We should be together too

{Chorus: Dido}

[Eminem as ‘Robert’]
Dear Mister-I’m-Too-Good-To-Call-Or-Write-My-Fans,
this’ll be the last package I ever send your ass
It’s been six months and still no word – I don’t deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
I wrote the addresses on ‘em perfect
So this is my cassette I’m sending you, I hope you hear it
I’m in the car right now, I’m doing 90 on the freeway
Hey Felix, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, “In the Air of the Night”
about that guy who coulda saved that other guy from drowning
but didn’t, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That’s kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
Now it’s too late – I’m on a 1000 downers now, I’m drowsy
and all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped ALL of your pictures off the wall
I love you Felix, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can’t sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can’t sleep and you SCREAM about it
I hope your conscience EATS AT YOU and you can’t BREATHE without me
See Felix; {*screaming*} Shut up bitch! I’m tryin to talk!
Hey Felix, that’s my cat screamin in the trunk
but I didn’t slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain’t like you
cause if she suffocates she’ll suffer more, and then she’ll die too
Well, gotta go, I’m almost at the bridge now
Oh shit, I forgot, how’m I supposed to send this shit out?
{*car tires squeal*} {*CRASH*}
.. {*brief silence*} .. {*LOUD splash*}

{Chorus: Dido}

[Eminem]
Dear Robert, I meant to write you sooner but I just been busy
You said your getting a cat now, how color is she?
Look, I’m really flattered you would call your cat that
and here’s an autograph for you,
I wrote it on the Starter cap
I’m sorry I didn’t see you at the show, I musta missed you
Don’t think I did that shit intentionally just to diss you
But what’s this shit you said about you like to cut your wrists too?
I say that shit just clownin dogg,
c’mon – how fucked up is you?
You got some issues Robert, I think you need some counseling
to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
And what’s this shit about us meant to be together?
That type of shit’ll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your cat need each other
or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter, I just hope it reaches you in time
before you hurt yourself, I think that you’ll be doin just fine
if you relax a little, I’m glad I inspire you but Robert
why are you so mad? Try to understand Robert, that I do want you as a fan
I just don’t want you to do some crazy shit
I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
and had his cat in the trunk,
and in the car they found a tape, but they didn’t say who it was to
Come to think about, his name was.. it was you
Damn!

by Robert on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to go see Coco Before Chanel

I am churlish and do not trust my beloved WTWTA to a movie.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out how I managed to be nearly oblivious to this.

CMJ Music Marathon and Film Festival

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by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure.

It might be because in the past two weeks I’ve had a project due, had my laptop’s power cord break, been sick, and have had workers replace a window in my apartment. Still, that only excuses that time period. The rest is a mystery.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I try to block that out every year

I went once. It’s overwhelming, in the best possible sense of the word.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any recommendations?

I saw the band list alone and my eyes glazed over.

Someone was asking me who she should see (that’s how I found out) and I’m at a complete loss for how to respond.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I'd just go dive in

scanning the list really quick I don’t see a ton that I recognize – I’m not much into the NYC music scene these days so a ton of those bands are completely unfamiliar to me, but I like PDX band The Whore Moans (10.15 Tuesday, Bruar Falls), they’re always fun, and the Maldives are playing right after them who are good sorta alt-countryish stuff if you like that sort of thing. Beyond that my eyes glaze over too – but I’d just go to a random show on one of the nights, it’s a fun event.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey friend, the Whore Moans are a Seattle band.

You’ve got better music than we do so don’t go poaching our best bands.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mea culpa

I stand corrected. Sit corrected. Whatever. Sorry…

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably good advice.

Good lord these tickets are expensive though. And NYU students get $200 off. Fuck NYU.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

On Tuesday I’d see Atlas Sound (though I have no idea what he’d be like live) and maaaybe the Happy Hollows. I might check out Black Swan Green, because that’s the name of a decent novel, and hey, you like books.

On Wed., maybe see Deastro, then I Was a King or Mumford and Sons, then maybe Frank Bruno because he’s an amazing songwriter and is also a literary critic – he’s you if you wrote songs.

Thu., Postmarks if you like reeeallly low-key chamber pop. Mumford and Sons if you missed them the prev. day and if you don’t mind banjo. Maybe Youth Group.

Fri. Menahan Street Band/Budos Band. Don’t miss that one. Just stay at the Knitting Factory for kick-ass soul/gospel/afro-funk. DO THIS. Army-Navy later on if you like very slick power-pop, maybe School of Seven Bells after that.

Sat. Ted Leo and the Pharmacists at noon. Sin Fang Bous at 8

Other stuff to fit in – Whore Moans, the metal tribute to Michael Jackson, Dum Dum Girls.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm probably looking at Weds, Fri, and Sat if I am able to go.

This is difficult.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unnatural Helpers are not to be missed.

Pissed Jeans, the Trashmen, Dutchess and the Duke, Nebula, and Ted Leo and the Pharmacists are also bands I would make it a point to see. (Well actually I would probably skip Unnatural Helpers and Duchess and the Duke because they’re from Seattle and I get to see them a lot but if I didn’t get to see them a lot I would definitely go.)

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

raphop?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh, I didn't see that.

Yes, definitely. Seattle’s second best live hip-hop band!

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the "problem" with CMJ

it’s like drinking from a firehose of awesome music, and it’s easy to miss stuff by glancing through the schedule.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's amazing is that the biggest bands are bands like Japanther and Pissed Jeans.

Most of the rest of the bands are moderately big on a local level. It’s the perfect music festival.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It really is

it hasn’t been taken over like SxSW and it’s still possible to see a ton of bands that you may never have heard of that may never get anywhere and are still awesome.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, where were unnatural helpers/Duchess and the Duke?

ac, did you get that Intelligence/Unnatural Helpers split 7"? It’s good!

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't yet!

I plan to! The Intelligence are fantastic.

Unnatural Helpers are playing at 11:30 and Tuesday and 7:00 on Saturday. Duchess and the Duke are playing at 10:00 on Saturday. Saturday is going to be a long day for the Duchess.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any opinions about Pure Country Gold?

I might go see them tonight if I can’t get into the (ahem) King Khan show that was added before tomorrow night’s Garagefest show.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like 'em.

Some of their stuff sounds like King Khan and BBQ show, some of it sounds more like garage punk. I’ve got two of their singles and they’re pretty good.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reason #1 I can't wait for the World Cup to start?

I can’t wait to hear what Maradona will say once Argentina starts to struggle. You can take your Chad Ochocincos and your TO’s, American football, because those two are mere innocent children at “provocation”, next to the spectacle of the greatest soccer player not named Pele telling an entire nation to suck it on national TV.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I keep thinking that his hiring was part of the biggest reality tv show ever.

When he inevitably gets fired, I do NOT want to be told that no, cameras haven’t been following him everywhere for a year.
This is basically the best set-up/premise in sports, and I don’t want to see it wasted. I do, however, want lots and lots of footage of Maradona wasted, and attempting to take on Messi or something.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a good theory

Maradona makes me want to learn and be fluent in Spanish by the WC so I can read and watch his stuff without it being translated into wonder bread.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, who hires Maradona to manage one of the best two or three teams on the planet?

Can the FA hire Gazza to manage England (note to FA: He’s not a damn furriner!)? Maybe give Cantona a shot with the French national team (note to FFA: You hate Domenech already! DOOOO IT!)?

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would love it if the FA hired Gazza

if only for the fresh stories of pre-tournament drinking binges.

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by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep!

I can’t believe we’re not hearing of pre-tournament cocaine binges from Maradona. Again, maybe we’re only getting the sanitized version, and this is why the real truth needs to be televised.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

I’d probably meet you just before you went into the maze, and while wearing a blank Ben Linus expression, tell you to “Have a nice time.” Then I’d do that half smile and walk away.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 16, 2009 12:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kind of

There was one that a friend of mine lived adjacent to, and after seeing a midnight show at the Egyptian one night (think it was Raiders of the Lost Ark), we snuck into it and ran through for a while. No notion of where we were going, but we could see because there was a full moon that night. Eventually we escaped through a wall.

Great times.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody catch the season premier of 30 Rock last night?

Holy god, it sucked. Note to Tina Fey and the other 30 Rock writers: There’s such a thing as being too self-aware.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Haven't seen it yet, watching it tonight

I feared this day might come, though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was...

…underwhelmed.

Disappointing.

SHOW FiFi THE MONEY!!!!

by PositivePaul on Oct 16, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to watch The Office, but gave up midway through last season.

I tried watching Parks & Rec last year, but found it unwatchable. I haven’t watched Community yet.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Parks and Rec has improved.

The Office sucked last season, but it’s been OK so far this year. It’s still funny enough to be worth watching, but for maximum effectiveness it probably should have ended after a few seasons, if you ask me.

by Teej on Oct 16, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like community a lot.

It’s kinda odd humor and I don’t think it will last, but I’ll always remember it as ‘one of those shows’.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its always sunny!

What grosses you out?

Knees.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does hulu have that show?

I don’t have cable =(
I know I’ve been missing tons of hilarity, because people keep telling me about it… Over and over and over again.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it does.

There’s 9 episodes up now, 4 from this season and 5 from season 2.

by Mariner John on Oct 16, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

They rotate 5 episodes at a time on Hulu.

You don’t have to start wtih season 1 but some stuff would make more sense if you started from the beginning.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am so glad this season has started to turn it's self around. Especially after the abortion that was episode 3.

Yesterdays episode was easily the best yet this year.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 16, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think last weeks was my favorite so far.

GET OUT OF HERE SNAIL!

But I also loved the car trip episode.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which was episode three?

The Dave and Busters product placement?

Last two have been awesome.

The Hawks should be better.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 18, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's the one. It was horrendous.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 18, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

June 24th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wait what game are we playing

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who hated Mass Effect?

Very linear environments, boring regurgitated environments, uninteresting planet exploration, utterly boring sidequests.

by redwolf75 on Oct 18, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're not the only one, but I still think it was a great game.

Mass Effect had Bioware’s trademark storytelling and strong characters. That made up for a lot of the game’s minor flaws. It was never a game designed to be a big sandbox RPG like Oblivion, but rather a more focused game with a detailed story.

by BrianL on Oct 18, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know, I loved other Bioware games like BG and KOTOR.

Maybe I’m holding Bioware to too high of a standard, but Mass Effect was very disappointing for me.

Hopefully Dragon Age will make me forget it.

by redwolf75 on Oct 19, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hated Mass Effect the first time I played it, but loved it the second time I played it through.

The first time through I was playing it as too much of a shooter. Once I learned to take advantage of biotics and tech strength, I found out the game was incredibly fun. And the story is pretty amazing.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved the game except for that one hilariously difficult part on the second planet you go to in the main storyline

It’s been a long time since I’ve been as frustrated by a game as I was trying to get through that tunnel with those fucking rocket launchers that kill you in two hits that you can’t dodge because you’re in a goddamn tunnel.

by OlSalty on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about when you're still in the Mako?

Use your jets to jump over the rockets. That’s how I avoid most stuff when I’m driving around.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's pretty much right at the start of the first Mako mission on the ice planet

Before you’ve really even figured out how to fight with it you’re thrust into this tunnel with 6 guys toting rocket launchers wayyyy on the other side. I had to get out and snipe them.

by OlSalty on Oct 19, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I seem to remember getting through that rather easily.

I liked Mass Effect but I wish it was more open. I felt forced down a track.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hate you.

Really don’t know why I’m here.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 16, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the same at M's...right next to their entire display devoted to "individual boxes of wine" ...you know the ones.

I shop there near-daily; live one block away.
I’m that girl who’s always paying way too much for way too much Elysian Pumpkin Ale.

by homesickalien on Oct 16, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it is excellent pumpkin ale.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just found a bar/restaurant four blocks down that sells it.

For fifteen dollars a bottle.

Ugh.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 18, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was referring specifically to Night Owl - that's the only one I've seen out this year at least. Not sure how a restaurant could get away with $15/bottle! Hot damn!

M’s sells it for just over $4…and the dude at the register tells me he thinks they have the best price.

Dude at the register assumes I’ll be too tipsy on Night Owl to research and prove him wrong.

Dude at the register is correct.

by homesickalien on Oct 19, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

$4 is pretty standard for Night Owl.

Ballard/Greenwood Markets have it for $5, but they’re consistently more expensive than other places.

Great Pumpkin is pretty fantastic, second only to Southern Tier Pumking in terms of pumpkin ales I have had. I liked Dark ‘O the Moon (Elysian’s pumpkin stout) fairly well, although it was a bit sweet for my tastess; I know at least one LLer disagrees with that and in any case it is definitely worth trying.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Incorrect

A Spice/Herb/Vegetable brewed by
Elysian Brewing Co.
Seattle, Washington USA

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it just was chocolately.

You, however, thought differently.

Deep brown pour with tan/reddish head. Very viscous mouthfeel; flavor and aroma are pumpkin, nutmeg, chocolate. A bit sweet.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe you guys are arguing over the descriptions you wrote on ratebeer

though to be fair, I found all of NOLA’s reviews on accident once because I was looking the “highest raters for Cuvee de Tomme” page

by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I found a place in Rancho Cucamonga that is my new personal heaven

They had all the Jolly Pumpkin that I bought, and had Consecration for 18, Curieux for 14 and Cuvee de Tomme for 24

by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they ship though

if I’m remembering right, it’s like $10 for the first bottle, but only like $1 a bottle more up to 10 bottles total

by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Night Owl.

This is the side effect of being imported across the country though, more than anything.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not until just before Christmas.

They’ll be out by then.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Night Owl is fine but it is in no way worth $15 a bottle.

Especially since you’re in NY and can get Southern Tier Pumking.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will look into it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not working.

Not in an academic sense at least.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just got back from the gym/taco cart

but thumb twiddling will now commence.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

if only they were one and the same I'd never leave the gym

but no, I had to walk to the taco cart after the gym. But now I have a new business idea.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 16, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best team building experience I've ever had was playing dominos in the army.

It was great, except there was always some jack ass that had to rhyme something stupid with 15. “Fitteen, Christine!” Then slam his domino down and bounce the table top. That guy kind of sucked.

Otherwise there were some fantastic conversations, seems like the important thing about team building is just finding common ground with your co-workers. Or perhaps I don’t understand the concept of team building.

by Kermit. on Oct 16, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Crafty!

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get hearts at all...

Counting bones sounds like a really good idea though. You could make a lot of money off of black certain people.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, switching between hearts and spades was like trying to use right handed scissors with your left hand.

Took a minute to get coordinated. Trying to organize a domino game could be annoying, there’s always one guy that wants to play nickels. He would be the guy that pees in the coffee pot in an office environment, not to be trusted.

by Kermit. on Oct 16, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TENnys for Kennys!

/table slam, everyone’s bones down, face-up for all to see.

Yeah, I hate that guy too.

by homesickalien on Oct 16, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another hmmm.

“”http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009943.html?categoryId=14&cs=1" target="new">Also on the CW docket is the space-themed “Plymouth Rock,” from Rob Thomas — the scribe behind UPN’s and CW’s “Veronica Mars,” and the original exec producer behind the C-Dub’s revived “90210.” Thomas will exec produce “Plymouth” with Danielle Stokdyk and Jennifer Gwartz, as well as Dan Etheridge. That’s the foursome behind Starz’s cult fave “Party Down,” in addition to “Cupid” and “Veronica Mars.”

Soap centers on young people on a ship traveling to a distant planet in order to colonize and save the human race."

by msb on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I've always thought Hell, Norway could make a mint copyrighting this kind of stuff.

I know their train station sold t-shirts for “Hell Station” and I got a funny picture of little brightly colored flags above a shopping mall that said “Hell,” but seriously – why can’t they crank out phony title deeds like this. Hell, every vintner in Romania now sells some sort of Vampire-themed wine. Hell’s gotta get in on this.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't sure which game it was, so I turned the TV to TBS but ads were on.

I changed it to FOX and it’s Jerry Springer’s "Liars, Cheaters and Strippers " episode, complete with two women walking vaguely suggestively but with no emotion around a stripper pole.

Clearly, I ought to look these things up before I hit the channel button.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idle baseball thought

The M’s had probably the best defense in baseball with one of the worst offenses in baseball. I doubt they could upgrade the offense without downgrading the defense to a greater extent.

Aside from Felix, our pitchers were pretty mediocre and we made them look great. What if we went out and signed a number of average starting pitchers, put them in the bullpen, and showed a willingness to pull the starter after three innings if they’re starting to get in trouble in the 4th?

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen..... NextLaird

Somebody needs to make this mugshot spin.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Brandon Laird

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 16, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Next Laird.

This family takes AMAZING pictures.

by marc w on Oct 16, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy enough

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 18, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

DO IT, ROCKAPELLA!

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 16, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well she sneaks around the world from Kiev to Carolina...

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

The TBS 9-foot graphic

Is that meant to be 9 feet from one end of the graphic to the other, or what? The 9 right in the middle seems to suggest that the number itself is 9 feet from either end, but that doesn’t look right when they put it on the field.

I know they explained this in the _LDS postgames, but I had the volume down when it happened.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 16, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: the upcoming weekend

When I’m not studying, I will be watching baseball. When I’m not doing either of those things, I have no idea. I was debating going to a show at El Corazon Sunday night, but I have to be up early Monday, and that’s not really my scene so much anymore…

This is possibly the lamest possible response to your questions… :/

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 16, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Come play football!

We’ll play nice.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 17, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

I didn’t even get up until 11, and just now, at 2pm, realized what time it was.
To top everything off, I think I’m coming down with something, which is annoying specifically because I JUST got over something else. Hope everyone had fun, and watch out for tornadoes!

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mom listened to that the other day

She was so proud she had something baseball to discuss with me over the phone.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 17, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I just got a keg of Odell's Easy Street

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/736/?ba=bros

for my kegerator.

For those of you familiar with keg pressures, should good beer be kept at a lower pressure (I generally do between 10-12 PSI, but the best I’ve had is Blue Moon)?

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by Corco on Oct 17, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Bryan Price

hired by the Reds

""I didn’t know a great deal about the whole situation there until I got a chance to fly up there and visit with Walt Jocketty, Dusty Baker, Bill Bavasi, Cam Bonifay and Dick Williams," Price said on Saturday. “Everyone seemed to be very consistent in their ideas and the direction for the organization. It’s an impressive group of people.”"

by msb on Oct 17, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Charges are to be filed against Balloon Boy's parents

At this time they can only file “Filing a false police report” charges, which are only a misdemeanor, but they are trying to find out if federal charges can be filed.

Apparently after interviewing the parents again, they are convinced this was a faked event.

by OlSalty on Oct 17, 2009 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

What are the odds of a guy that has spent years pimping a reality show, and whoring his family out for "Swapping Wives"

And also accidentally launching a kid into the lower atmosphere in a mickey mouse home made balloon. Seems like pretty long odds. I’ve never been six degrees of separation from a person that has been on a reality t.v. show, and probably x10 degrees from anyone that has built a half ass balloon in their backyard. Would anyone be the farm on that?

by Kermit. on Oct 17, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it help that the balloon was actually held together by string and duct tape?

I can’t imagine such thorough engineering expertise could fail to hold up a small child.

Apparently this guy also has a rather infamous temper.

I just hope his kids are safe, he seems like a rather impulsive guy and cornering him in this lie might lead him to do something even crazier…

by OlSalty on Oct 18, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now We Can See is good...

But it can’t touch the other three Thermals’ LPs. The Body, The Blood, The Machine is one of my favorite albums ever.

by SethGrandpa on Oct 18, 2009 1:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Now We Can See is excellent.

Then again, so are their others. I think that NWCS comes in third to More Parts and The Body, the Blood.

Anyone catch Grizzly Bear on Friday? They KILLED.

The Hawks should be better.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 18, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

:(

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Make an effort to get into soccer.

I used to be the same way about it, before I fell in love while watching the 2006 World Cup. You just have to learn to not take constant offensive scoring for granted, like in other American sports, and appreciate other facets of the game.

by redwolf75 on Oct 19, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm relatively new to soccer but seriously people that find it boring don't make much of an actual effort to get into it

Clinging to a one goal lead for the final 30 minutes of an important match is easily the most terrifying and exciting thing that I have a experienced as a sports fan

by Robert on Oct 19, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's my traditionalist coming out

I liked/hated/dreaded it a lot more when they didn’t track injury time on the scoreboard like they do now. You want tense? Try timing out 3 min in your head when your team can’t hold on to the goddamn ball to save their lives and are only leading 1-0. Great stuff.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Crew game was an excellent example of that feeling
Clinging to a one goal lead for the final 30 minutes of an important match is easily the most terrifying and exciting thing that I have a experienced as a sports fan

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

by redwolf75 on Oct 19, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth

MLBTR is reporting that Johjima has opted out of his contract and the M’s are perhaps free from the salary.

by stupidquestions on Oct 19, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Yet another reason I can't stand football

I get that sports are results-based, and I get that football has a really damn short season which adds an extra layer to that results-based pressure. But after week 1 they’re already talking about who will and won’t make the playoffs, and who is and isn’t on the hot seat, and that just ramps up after…hell, I don’t even know what week of the season it is now but overreaction seems to be the primary mode of thinking in the NFL and it’s annoying.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but that order's decided before game 1 is even played

so it’s more of a question of the hilarity that ensues during the whole thing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying, there's an awful lot of overreaction there....

Gareth Southgate is the best young manager in England. Gareth Southgate sucks.
Yay! Iain Dowie saved the season! How soon can we fire Iain Dowie (as an aside, it is impossible to fire Iain Dowie too early)? Man U are vulnerable! Man U are invulnerable!

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is definitely true

I was happy to see no ENGLAND WILL DEFINITELY WIN THE WORLD CUP THIS YEAR headlines after they won all but one of their qualifiers – in past years they’d be planning parade routes right about now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then when they lose to Brazil/Portugal/Whoever

the litany of reasons that England can’t compete, and how they’re second rate, and their manager’s incompetent. You know the dance.

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

So how many awesome bands did you see this weekend?

I always take for granted how amazing the Dirtbombs are live. Then I see them and I’m blown away again by their awesomeness.

Side note: it’s very odd going to a rock show at 3pm.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Lots!

(nice to meet you)

Bands that impressed: Strange Boys, Davila 666, Sonic Chicken 4, King Khan and BBQ show.
Bands that sucked will not be mentioned here because I’m sure their parents love them.

Some photos.

ac, please tell me you went to see Davila 666 last night at the Funhouse.

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you liked Sonic Chicken 4

My sister knows one of the guys in that band. I know my sister’s taste in music and that alone was enough to make me not want to see them, but maybe I’ll revisit that stance and check ’em out.

And yeah, AC, if you didn’t see Davila you missed out. Hat tip to marc w (nice to meet you too!) for that one.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

She knows French people? I mean, come on. Can you ever really KNOW a French person?

They’re from Perpignon, and the only other band I’ve ever heard of from there is also a garage band (though much, much more punk). Makes me think it’s like the Medway of France.

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does Hot Fuzz count?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 19, 2009 10:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Then it's that

with Dark Knight right there.

The dark horse: Courage Under Fire.

But seriously, the answer is Road House.

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aliens.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Terminator

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm always torn

The first one is much more tense, and comes across almost like an action-thriller with the way it’s set up. Plus, it was made in the mid-80’s which automatically makes it a bit more awesome because of the technology

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

The Rock?

I don’t think I’ve seen any “action movies” since Bruce Willis 4. Wait, Dark Knight, nevermind…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The new phone they have coming is amazing though

Boy Genius Report outed some details and pictures on Sunday, and I’m thoroughly impressed. They can’t stop gushing about it, either

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overrated

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I might be able to survive that

I could probably get by with just a data-only plan on my iPhone. I use less than 200 minutes a month, and only send about 750 text messages. There are other methods for communicating with just data-only, but I can’t get that plan unless I can prove that I’m deaf, which isn’t likely

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Data

He just wanted to be human.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm very intrigued by Android, and 2.0 might get it close enough that I'll consider picking one up

All the phones for it right now are just not doing it for me though. Even the Hero (not the shitty Sprint version, but the sexy Euro one) runs on dated hardware, and that is making me hesitant to get on board. Hopefully the Verizon “Droid” ends up as good as it is supposed to be, and ends up on AT&T at some point because it looks killer

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Super stoked

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verizon was late to the good-smartphone party

but they’re pretty much setting up to destroy the competition at this point. I hope they do it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect the iTablet to end up with them as well

Keep an eye out for T-mobile as well. They are on the verge of announcing a death blow to Sprint

by Robert on Oct 19, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sprint is so fucked

Project Dark sounds pretty great, although it does nothing to address T-Mo’s lack of future planning. This will boost them greatly for the next 3-5 years, but when everybody else upgrades their networks, T-Mobile will be in some trouble.

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why is Sprint fucked?

(Sincere question. I don’t follow this stuff too much.)

by Teej on Oct 19, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hemorrhaging money/customers

Pre wasn’t the boon that they hoped it would be and they are about to lose the exclusivity agreement with it. Shame because they had the best prices/technology of all the carriers

by Robert on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lame.

I’ve had Sprint since 2001 and have been quite happy. I love the Pre, WebOS is pretty nice, and I have unlimited data and an assload of minutes for like $55 a month.

by Teej on Oct 19, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is WiMax up and running?

And how far outside of say, central Seattle does it operate? Kent? West Seattle? Shoreline? Edmonds?

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

And more in relation to the link Robert posted,

TMO is about to unleash “Project Dark” which gives customers 3 types of unlimited-use plans to choose from (and SUPER cheap, at that). Also, customers have the option of paying for their cell phone in monthly installments with their bill instead of all up-front. Lastly, they will begin rolling out an updated network with 3G speeds up to 5x faster than anybody else has currently.

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe T-Mobile's doing that.

I’d basically become convinced that they were abandoning the US market. I guess not.
I may have to stick with them for an Android phone and an all-in plan that cheap.
Still, depends on how soon they can get kick-ass android phones to market here.

by marc w on Oct 19, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It trickles down though

I’m not a tech geek, and I’m not even really interested in owning a smartphone. But I do know that what the tech geeks do with Android and all that open-platform stuff eventually becomes robust application goodness.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is great. And having competition is never a bad thing.

But most people don’t go out and search for that type of stuff to add to their phones.

I didn’t when I had my last smart phone. But I’m glued to my iphones screen 24/7 now.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overall I love my phone but there are some things about it that bug the hell out of me.

I’m a happy iPhone user but I doubt I will stick with it once my contract is up.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really dislike the keyboard, for one.

The thing that makes me most envious of Pre owners is the physical keyboard.

The ability to run more than one application at once would be nice. It crashes a lot. I’ve had problems lately with the home button; sometimes I will have to push very, very hard to get a response. The battery life is kind of a joke and since I lost the wall charger and don’t want to pay $30 for a replacement it takes forever and a day to charge (and I will take most of the blame for that one.) It’s a bitch to keep the screen clean but I’ve never been able to put a cover on without having air bubbles between the screen and the protector.

Like I said, I’m happy with it, but not gaga-in-love-with-it. I’ll definitely look at whatever model is out when the time comes, but I’ll look at the competitors also.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 19, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Physical Keyboard on the Pre doesn't help in landscape mode :)

And running the separate applications in the background would kill your battery.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not if there is proper memory management

I think that the Pre’s keyboard is pretty much the pits but people who use it say they get used to it after a while

by Robert on Oct 19, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

My last phone ran on depleted Uranium pellets or something

I would literally spend nearly an entire day browsing the web on my Nokia E71 and not hardly touch the battery indicator. I would regularly forget my charger on weekend trips to see my fiancee and not have to even worry about it. All this while running a few apps at all times in addition to browsing and texting

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You echo my feelings on it exactly

To be completely honest, I only purchased the iPhone because app support for other phones (on AT&T at least) is a complete joke. I couldn’t get useful apps for anything on my Nokia, and the browser was pretty slow. Apps and web browsing are the only things I enjoy about my phone.

Much like the iPod/iPhone accessories market makes it tough for me to be a Zune owner. It’s a huge pain in the ass to find any kind of accessory for my Zune, especially speaker docks and the like.

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 19, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone ever played the "Gothic" series of cRPGs?

Picked up the “compilation” pack for five bucks and was wondering if any of the games were worth spending any time.

by redwolf75 on Oct 19, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I love Gothic.

They are really dense, and definitely not for everyone, but Gothic 1and 2 are probally the best games I have ever played. They looked dated when released, and have some technical problems, but the underlying game is just totally magnificent.

50!

by joof on Oct 20, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of like KEXP's song of the day today.

Surprising, as I usually steer far away from this stuff. It may just be something that interests me in passing though. I’m listening to the rest of the album right now and it’s just not doing it for me.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

The Blakes?

This is a pretty decent song, why is the rest of the album not working for you? I don’t really have an opinion of them one way or another…

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by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's the Le Loup one.

The Blakes didn’t really interest me much.

There isn’t a whole lot that’s really struck me in the podcasts so far. It seems like a lot of them sound mostly the same.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's KEXP these days though

they have really homogenized their sound over the last few years. Which is great if you live in Brooklyn and all your friends are in bands, I guess.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live close enough to Brooklyn

and most of the people I know in bands seem to want to integrate world music for its own sake. We are the place that gave birth to Vampire Weekend after all.

You’re right about the homogenization though…. ugh… do you have any other recommendations as far as stations go, preferably ones I could stream online?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

WFMU

and you can probably get that over the air (91.1 FM, from Jersey City) but if not they’re at wfmu.org.

Don’t get me started about Vampire Weekend. hahaha.

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by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So they took the one clever thing they did on the album and repeated in four variations.

And now I hate them.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 19, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I turn 19 in two weeks.

That means it will be time to make my voyage to Canada for legal drinking. Any advice for me from those who have also made the trip?

by Mariner John on Oct 19, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Do not insult the Canadian one-dollar coin in your chosen drinking establishment

by insinuating that the animal depicted thereon is a duck. If you do this, do not repeat it several times over the course of an hour. Of this all I can say is that Canadian bouncers are rough.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 19, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

This doesn't really apply to drinking in Canada

but a fun thing to do on your first “big night out” is to sign your name on a napkin or drink coaster after every drink you take. Watch as your signature slowly disintegrates into some random scribbles.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that CBS.com has full episodes of shows

but if I have to see that god damn Chevron commercial with the break dancing dog again, I will break something. I would welcome anything at this point, including Geico googly eyes.

by Mariner John on Oct 19, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Be prepared for pink Fulham hats everywhere any day now

The Red Sox ownership signed a marketing deal with Fulham today. Prepare for the onslaught of Fulhamania. Or something.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't understand this.

What’s Boston get out of this?
I’d also dispute that they’re now “work[ing] with one of the top football clubs in London.”

by marc w on Oct 20, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clint.

Maybe help Eddie Johnson do something against opposition a little above the level of Grenada/Panama

by marc w on Oct 20, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not for long!

He’s on his way back to Milan as soon as the season ends, again.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was Beckham good at one point?

Or has he always never been as good as the hype?

by Mariner John on Oct 20, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beckham was quite good at one or two things

and when I say “quite good” I mean “best in the world”, but again, only at a couple things. He was great at set plays, and he was fantastic at passing the ball from his midfield position. He was never much of a runner, though, and as he’s gotten older that’s only gotten worse – he doesn’t move all that far from his spot during most games, compared to a Cesc Fabregas type of midfielder who ranges all over the place.

Beckham in his prime could not carry a team all by himself, like a Rooney or a Cristiano Ronaldo can, but when surrounded by good players who knew where he liked to put the ball Beckham was an unstoppable force. He’s still quite useful, but nowhere near what his reputation would suggest.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Venerable in the sense of 'old' or 'old and accomplished?'

They got an association with the former, not the latter (and I kind of like Fulham).
Reading that press release, it seems like they made the move because Fulham has an old stadium too. Craven Cottage is pretty cool, but… Fulham? Fulham?
Bolton’s older, West Ham’s been more successful, etc.

by marc w on Oct 20, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Tech announcement overload.

27inch iMac, Multi touch mouse, Canon release new camera that blew my pants off and sony has a huge camera announcement at 11am.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

So yeah, that new iMac is sex on wheels

That thing packs a pretty good whallop for a decent price. I want to touch one.

by Kermit. on Oct 20, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Canon 1D Mark IV

Can shoot full 1080p at iso 6400 with no noise.

Basically it can see in the dark.

http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2009/10/19/lights-out-camera-action/

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention how good of a still camera it is.

But I don’t care about that so much.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I had the money to be into gadgetry, I'd buy it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 20, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

"$4,999 body only"

That would be roughly my entire bank account at the moment.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 20, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

My brother has enough L glass

That I would only need the body. But I believe its going to be a tandem purchase.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 20, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is also this part of the article
Elsewhere in the Premier League today, Aston Villa beat Chelsea 2-1. Whilst the threat posed to the Big Four by Manchester City has been discussed at length this season, were people naive to write off Villa after their opening day defeat to Wigan? And are flaws beginning to emerge in Carlo Ancelotti’s Chelsea side?

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 20, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh....

The beginning sounds like it was recorded inside a luxury car commercial or possibly a pinball machine.

Aside from that, Pedro has a pretty good radio voice… He did just make a bad pun about Tom Tango though.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I may have to give it a listen later

Although I’d expect nothing more than the usual mischaracterizations of “Moneyball” and obsessive references to Beane/Shapiro/DePodesta.

by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You get that.

There was a misrepresentation of DePodesta talking about picking up defective players or some such thing and the idea of Moneyball being bad and all that.

He’s also… very deliberate… in how he speaks. The podcast makes him sound downright reasonable. Repetitive, but reasonable.

Some silly claims though. “In a division that does not have a Yankees or a Phillies team that spends a considerable amount of money, why is it that we need to Moneyball?”

First off, the Angels say hello. Second, the Moneyball is just a basis, because we do have money to spend, it’s a means of getting pieces in place that we don’t have to spend a great deal of money on so that we can better allocate these resources that we have. That seems to go over Pedro’s head though. He seems to think that every new player acquired is going to be like Jack or Josh Wilson.

But cripes, I mean, we’ve been all over this before…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 20, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was recorded before Joh opted out.

Or else he’s completely unaware of it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 20, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He probably thinks it doesn't matter

since Jack Z will just use the money to upgrade our UZR at the expense of offense since that’s what “Moneyball” is “all about.”

by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't think Hardy is good because he lost his job to a rookie.

He also doesn’t think that Saunders is a prospect on the level of Jones/Choo and that the M’s shouldn’t have the patience to develop him.

He is complimentary about Gutierrez though. Really wants Felix to be re-signed too, but who doesn’t?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 20, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your summary

is great; thanks for taking one for the team on this.

by stupidquestions on Oct 20, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

A current list of things I have in my cupboard to be drank

please tell me what you think if you’ve tried them

Lost Abbey/Port
Angel’s Share
Cuvee de Tomme
Older Viscosity
Devotion
Avant Garde

Jolly Pumpkin
Calabaza Blanca
Oro de Calabaza
Bam Biere
Bam Noire
La Roja

Deschutes
Black Butte XXI
Mirror Mirror

Bruery
Hottenroth Berliner Weisse
Barrel-Aged Autumn Maple

Other
Maredsous 8
Pike Brewing – Naughty Nellie
Bear Republic – Racer 5
Ballast Point – Black Marlin
Kona – Pipeline Porter (!)
Karl Strass – Oktoberfest

So it’s occurred to me that I have a lot of beer…

by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

That isn't beer, that's an investment. Nice list.

Racer 5 is tops, other than that your list depresses me. There’s narrowly defined tastes, and then there’s stagnation. Ugh.

by Kermit. on Oct 20, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poorly worded, my taste in beer is stuck on hops. So pretty much IPA, maybe a few reds.

Sb’s list has a lot of variety, I’m envious.

That reminds me, I keep meaning to recommend Elysian’s Prometheus. The guy that put me onto it explained that it’s a knock off of Big Time’s Scarlet Fire, hence the name.

by Kermit. on Oct 20, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I let it play for like 20 minutes last night while I was doing a bunch of nothing

Get on my horse, I’ll take you ’round the univerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrse

Also, kinda NSFW everybody, but only briefly and you don’t have to watch it to get all the enjoyment

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

*dirty

I’d better not show you where the lemonade’s made mmmm sweet lemonade yeah sweet lemonade

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Score one for the senior citizens

Chris Chelios is BACK, beeeyotches! And by BACK I mean “”http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=4580180" target="new">playing unaffiliated junior hockey". Still, most 47 year olds are playing in weekend rec leagues at that point in their lives, so good for him I guess.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I stand by my earlier prediction that Arsenal will finish 6th or 7th

but by that same token it wouldn’t at all surprise me if Liverpool were down there too.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is actually shaping up to be the most interesting Premiership season since the Premiership started

There’s still a gap between the haves and the have-nots, but that gap is shrinking; the Big Four could easily become the Medium-Sized Seven or so by next season. The smaller teams are learning not to be afraid of the big boys, and that’s leading to…well, it’s leading to some desperately poor football that produces results for the small clubs, which ultimately is what matters.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Niall Quinn, Paul Dickov

oh wait you meant on the current first team.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd go with Blackburn Rovers myself

they’re in 13th place. Pretty much always. They never threaten the European places and they never really get in terribly serious relegation trouble, they’re pretty much the replacement-level Premiership side.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

A replacement level side is whoever got promoted.

Blackburn gets you the only non-big-four premiership title ever, the ubercool Morten Gamst Pedersen, Big Sam Allerdyce, and a long history. They’re clearly better than replacement level. And they’re also clearly more noteworthy than Fulham, to go back to an earlier thread…..

by marc w on Oct 20, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm reserving this right, too.

I’ve half-settled on Liverpool, but if they end up in a huge(er) financial mess and sell Torres and Gerrard, I’m rebooting and trying again.

by Teej on Oct 20, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've found my new winter cycling clothing

Weatherproof three-piece cycling suit? Check. Now all I need is a deerstalker hat and a Rollie Fingers mustache.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd wear it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

My macbook is fucking with me.

When I use 4 fingers to see all the programs I have open and click on Firefox, it doesn’t actually open Firefox, it just hides it in the background. Is there some sort of setting I accidentally enabled? I don’t want to use Safari.

by Mariner John on Oct 20, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

As an IT person who specializes with Microsoft environments

all I can tell you to remedy your problem is to sacrifice three goats to the computer gods.

by BrianL on Oct 20, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have a macbook

but what I’ve noticed on my iMac is that if you minimize a program it doesn’t come back up when you alt-tab between programs, it just behaves as you describe; maybe the four-finger functionality is the same way? Maximize Firefox and then try it, maybe?

But now I’m a bit confused as to what it is you’re trying to do. Are you trying to see if FF is already open, or are you trying to open it with no luck? All else fails, force-quit FF and start over.

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by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel mildly retarded now

Apparently the window was over as far to the right as possible and I had to drag it out. I never actually drug it over there so I was a little perplexed.

by Mariner John on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

There we go!

The draft is an equalizer, and using statistical data along with scouting data is really great, and can help find undervalued talents. But you first need to know where the error bars are, and you need to pick the right undervalued skills.

by marc w on Oct 20, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am utterly mystified by this as well

the whole point of the book is to be efficient and think for yourself as how to best win baseball games. Michael Lewis just illustrates Beane’s particular way of doing it, saying that he feels forced to pursue this because he has no money.

by seattlebruin on Oct 20, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most people think

that “win baseball games” automatically equals “win world series”, though, and the failure of the A’s to do that in the “Moneyball era” is seen by most as an indictment of the process as a whole, because nobody takes the time to understand it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 20, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

the URL ends in “horsesex20m.html”

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by tootthekazoo on Oct 20, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say!

“Ryan Rowland-Smith will join Kevin Calabro and Shannon Drayer live and in studio from 4-5 tomorrow (Wed) on 710 ESPN.”

by msb on Oct 20, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Anybody listen to Dizzee Rascal?

I discovered “Boy in da’ Corner” about 3 weeks ago and have been spinning it non-stop.

The Hawks should be better.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Oct 20, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

YES!

Also, K-Os.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

And, for your WTF moment of the day:
#6- Who in the world would you least like to match up against in a soccer game?

Kasey Keller: Jeffrey Dahmer

by redwolf75 on Oct 20, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Personally, I find Ted Bundy more intimidating.

At least Dahmer didn’t bury his victims and then come back later to dig up and rape the bodies. He instead kept them for ready access in his fridge and closet. Plus, Bundy is local, yo. Gotta’ keep it real, WEST COAST! Fuck those wannabe Midwestern serial killers.

by redwolf75 on Oct 20, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saunders has started playing for the Lara Cardenales

First two games: 9 AB, 4 H, HR, 4 RBI, 3/0 K/BB, .444/.444/.778

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by JY on Oct 21, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Having a soccer game start at 9.30AM

is about as weird as having an East Coast M’s game start at 10AM. But still, ManUre are playing in Moscow right now in case you’re interested.

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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

CSKA has never lost at home in the CL!

United are nearly winless in Moscow in the CL – the final two years ago is pretty much the only time they’ve won there. The weather doesn’t appear to be horrid, though, so that’s unfortunate.

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by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

People find celebrities and TV personalities attractive

some are less discriminating than others as far as where their attractions lead them.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just saw a great descripton from Mark Kreigel back when Phillips had to take leave for the harrassment suit filed by a Mets ST receptionist

and Phillips insisted it was a consensual affair, and then (for not good reason) admitted to to a number of previous ones…. Kreigel called him “the serial consensual philanderer”

by msb on Oct 21, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maurice Sendak is my new hero

Parents who are worried about exposing their precious little kiddies to the dark tone of the movie of Where The Wild Things Are can “”http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/oct/20/maurice-sendak-wild-things-hell" target="new">go to hell".

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I remember a similar backlash to the new Willy Wonka.

Although I found Gene Wilder to be pretty creepy watching it when I was a kid.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The new Willy Wonka was toothless compared to the old one (although not a bad movie)

I love the original like almost no other film. Gene Wilder gives a phenomenal performance in that movie. I love the fact that there exists a children’s movie which contains a scene with a chicken getting its head cut off.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not everyone felt that way.
Just don’t expect the same magical, enchanting, heart warming adventure that was present in the Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory movie. … the character of Willy Wonka should be the loveable, happy go lucky candy maker that every child wants to meet

http://www.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1146613/content_250838552196

This was actually a fairly common line when the movie came out. It was really based in that people wanted to remember only the “happy go lucky” parts of the first movie, but existed nonetheless.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 21, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

As I recall from the original there were like two happy go lucky scenes

that is one dark film. Which is why it’s great.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

The book was scary, too, for fuck's sake. That's half the point.

Like the Willy Wonka thing, it seems a lot of people are misremembering the original work.

by Teej on Oct 21, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't remember whether I'm supposed to like the Phillies or not

because there’s so many threads on who I’m supposed to be rooting for and hating, but I just read this and it cracked me up. Like a little grease will stop a drunkard from getting up a light pole.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Things like this make me yearn for winning the 2006 basketball national championship

we had a riot-in-a-box all ready to go, too. Roman candles, sparklers, a few low fireworks, lighters and a ton of alcohol.

Needless to say, they never got used.

by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

In case anyone figured out, my team was on the losing end of the 2006 national championship game

they were also on the losing end of the 2008 national championship game, apparently.

by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish

I wasn’t even angry after the game. Just sad. I was angry after Memphis Kansas eliminated us in 2008 though

by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is a tough pill to swallow I am sure.

I mean going winless was rough but it seems preferable to losing in the title game.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 21, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least if you go winless you know early on that you aren't going to win it all

if you get all the way to the last five seconds of the title game with the lead and then lose, it really sucks

by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose you could know what that feels like

when you lose all your games, that’s lots of opportunities for heartbreak

by seattlebruin on Oct 21, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can show you!

You can actually pinpoint the exact moment when SB’s heart breaks into two.

by Robert on Oct 22, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

Hill/Aumont have had better days

Game’s still going, but… yeeesh.
No Ackley today. And Josh Fields only gave up a solo HR, so that’s decent. Hey, nice GB ratio for Hill as well.

by marc w on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, yes....especially since Scooter was an animated baseball. :)

Obviously I’m biased because Ozzie Guillen was not only my childhood shortstop, but also the manager who led my team to the World Series….

But I gotta say that Fox does a really superb job of putting crap on the air 90% of the time.
This move, albeit “annoying” for most people, is great for ratings and to mix it up a bit. I’m very much looking forward to seeing Ozzie in this role. I’m sure he’ll have detailed rules in his contract – such as, “No fag-calling, even if you’re aptly referring to Jeter and Swisher.”

Should be interesting at the very least.

by homesickalien on Oct 22, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

This has the potential to be quite awesome.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 22, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hello strange new board!

Unfortunately for you all someone on McCovey Chronicles mentioned the high quality of the posting content here, and so I’ve been sent over in an attempt to bring down the general IQ of lookoutlanding.

In a very amazing coincidence, “Look out! Landing!” is what I used to yell out the window of my rented Cessna 152 when I was practicing landing in my days of flying lessons.

In other coincidental news, I have been in Seattle a few times. I also hate sunny days, but I love quiet walks on the beach, but only in violent storms accompanied by snow and tsunamis.

Apparently there are some winemakers here. I too enjoy that hobby.

I’m looking forward to reading what fans of a real baseball franchise think about baseball. The Giants, for having a joke of a franchise and a general manager with the intellect of a brain damaged hummingbird, have a passionate fan base, even though we know nothing about baseball, other than it counts as one point if the guy with the stick hits the ball over the fence, and old guys who don’t hit the ball with the stick well are deserving of many millions of dollars each year.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please use the subject line for comments here

It makes finding comments a lot easier when moderating. Thanks!

by Graham MacAree on Oct 22, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

As you wish

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mariners are not actually not-a-joke just yet

They’re getting more serious, but on a scale of 1-10, where 1 is Dane Cook and 10 is Monty Python, they’re still about a 5 or 6 (droll-and-unfunny New Yorker cartoon) as far as franchises go – a few more years like last year, though, and they might actually be a serious team.

Welcome to LL. Please list your five favorite beers so that we may judge your overall worth as a human being*

*kidding. Mostly

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I'd seen this before posting my beer choices

I just stuffed two muffins in my keyboard. Let me know when they arrive.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mariners (and that's a cool name for a baseball team) are way less a joke than the Giants

Though the for being a joke the Giants are quite unfunny.

As for beer, well, let’s see……..

1) Olympia
2) Hamms
3) Raaaaaay Neeeeeeeeeeeeeer Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
4) Guinness
5) Coors light

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never heard of it.

It must be one of those cheap, crappy beers, of the kind I’m not used to drinking.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the cut of your jib sir

I have no idea what a badly cut jib looks like, so take that for what it’s worth I guess.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sir is so very formal

SF will work.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allrighty then

now, about those beer selections.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what one looks like either.

In fact I’ve never even been to a bris.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Bud Light Lime.

I set the bar low. Now jump over it.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sent this to my wife the other day from the store where she sent me to pick up Jubelale

I said they were out but would this do as an alternative. Oddly she didn’t see the humor!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just make sure that you get specifics

when I say “first round’s on me”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be on vacation so I'd do it.

Then I’d puke all over pdb’s sandals.

by Sec 108 on Oct 22, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wait til Black Tuesday

by the way, only FIVE MORE DAYS

and if anyone wants a bottle, speak now or forever hold your peace (until next year)

by seattlebruin on Oct 22, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay me then.

I will repay you as well as purchase a bottle of a not-available-in SoCal beer of choice for your trouble.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edited - I will do my best, but no guarantees

it sounds like this is going to be a pretty hot release

by seattlebruin on Oct 23, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys will end up rooting for the Giants

And the rest of your lives will be pure misery, alleviaed by amazing pitching every 5th day.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

alleviated.

I assumed that the spell check was incorrect. Oh arrogant me.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont worry about the Giants

I manage them in our Baseball Mogul League and pretty soon it will nothing but smooth sailing for you guys.

by Robert on Oct 22, 2009 4:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Uh.....

There are other sports than baseball?

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Soccer!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

NASCAR!

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 22, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

.....

Is that like Octomom giving birth?

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's underwater hockey.

But I like both of these definitions better.

by royalcurve on Oct 22, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh then...

Racoon Fishing!

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only issue I see with this is the possibility of losing a fishing pole.

Or is there an actual fishing poll? And if so, how does one attach jerky to it? Additionally, I’ve never gotten a call from the Field and Stream survey polling me on fishing.

Now I’m confused.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

This cracked me up
"Look out! Landing!" is what I used to yell out the window of my rented Cessna 152

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of that intellectual manager of yours...sorry about Buster... why call up a promising prospect if you aren't going to fucking play him???!

(I’m also just a visitor here; else I’d welcome you. I can say, however, that your beer selections are horrendous.)
Cheers!

by homesickalien on Oct 22, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that image this morning.

And came up with the idea of my brother (Pro photographer) taking the same photo of me dressed as a wolf jumping over a fence.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 22, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see no possible way this could end badly

I do, however, see many, many ways it could end hilariously. And by “hilariously” I mean “painfully”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 22, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I have insomnia I count wolves jumping over fences

It’s fun to imagine them chasing Brian Sabean. Of course you can substitute your own especially loathed one for Sabean.

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apropos of nothing

I just turned on my television to warm it up for the game only to discover a Jennifer Tilly lesbian road trip movie. My eyes started to bleed and when I heard the dialogue my eardrums popped.

Where’s my damn remote!?

Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis

Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 22, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear newspaper companies:

The solution to the conundrum of “nobody buys our product” is not to keep the quality of your product at the exact same execrable, fifth-grade-gazette level as it has always been (this quality caveat may not apply to papers not called the Oregonian) and charge twice as much for it. $1 for a daily edition? Really? You think that’ll help?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

That's pretty much what I said

I wasn’t even going to buy it to read it – I wanted some newsprint to shove in my soaking wet bike shoes this morning to help dry them out. But I’m not spending $1 for that. I can’t imagine paying $1 a day to read that rag – there are some excellent newspapers in this country, but the Oregonian is most definitely not one of them.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not on my way from the coffee place to my office

That was my first thought, but the WW kiosk was across the street and it’s raining like crazy, and I’d just managed to dry myself out from my commute and wasn’t eager to get damp again.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It shouldn't

The reflexive ZOMG CHAINS ARE ALWAYS EVIL is just as annoying as the ZOMG YANKEES SUCK reflexiveness. If you like it better, that’s great. I love Starbucks hot chocolate.

As a side rant, anybody that’s ever bought anything at a Target or a QFC/Fred Meyer can’t complain about chains being evil.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, too deep a discussion of this might be inappropriate for this here blog

but I disagree to a certain extent with your second paragraph. I don’t necessarily think chains in and of themselves are evil, and I have a bizarre, bordering-on-romantic love for Fred Meyer. With that being said, some chains are completely and totally evil and bad and should never be patronized.

And while this is a matter of personal choice, I will not patronize Starbucks unless I am in an area with no other alternatives. There are things that Starbucks does better than other places, but I think that supporting small, local businesses is worthwhile (and not solely for warm and fuzzy reasons, either) and I am willing to pay more or sacrifice a bit of quality (in certain respects) if I can do so.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 23, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just know so many people that are ultradogmatic about CHAINS ARE EVIL that then go to Target it makes me nuts

In this, as in everything, there’s room for nuance – I love Fred Meyer too, and I had Starbucks hot chocolate this morning. I think supporting small local business is very worthwhile, but what it comes down to for me is that if I don’t like their product I’m not going to buy it just because it’s small and local. There are definitely chains that are better than others, and chains that are neutral, and chains that are worse than others; in this, as in everything, that means to me that blanket statements like “chains are evil” is reductionist and pointless.

In Taylor’s example, given the choice between Stumptown and Starbucks hot chocolate, I’ll take Starbucks every time. But again, that’s just me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Target is not the same as Wal-Mart at least

Or maybe I’m just telling myself that because I work there.

by Mariner John on Oct 23, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a way this is my point

Target is not the same as Wal-Mart; Target doesn’t have the reputation of ruining small towns and treating their employees like used disposable diapers. But they are both chain stores; this is presumably what ac was referring to (and what I originally meant) when he said some chains are completely and totally evil and bad. Target seems like a more benign chain; they have a good reputation, and thus people who would rather set themselves on fire with a blowtorch than go in to a Wal-Mart store don’t think twice about going to Target.

Which is fine – I’m the same way. it’s when those same people get all “CHAIN STORES ARE EVIL” that they lose me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 23, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't particularly care for

The quality of Target’s clothing. A vast majority of it is made of very thin, cheap material. But they also have a lot of things that I use on a regular basis, and their employees normally seem pretty happy, so I have no problem shopping there for other things.
I try and support small business when I can (I opt for a small store to get coffee from, rather than give Starbucks and their candy-coffeed-rama any of my money), but it is not really affordable for me right now, and sometimes beggars can’t be choosers.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have one sketched out for Monday.

There are some discussion topics, but there’s nothing about it that’s particularly “topical” in the vein of “this thing just happened and what are your opinions”. Not that we stay on subject all that long anyway.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Done.

Whoa now, don’t everybody go getting too excited.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

From this article.

At the end of the day, Mr. Port says, the whole argument about umpires comes down to this: “Do we want the tradition of 18 people on the field doing their best to help their teams win, officiated by four trained gentlemen also doing their best? Or do we want to translate over to some sort of technologically advanced video endeavor that removes human elements from the game?”

Hell and Yes.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 23, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

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