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On Josh Fields

The little guy out of Georgia got his first AFL action today, and in so doing also got his first exposure to PITCHfx. Of the 20 pitches he threw, 19 were detected, and here's what he flashed:

Type n Speed pfx pfz
Fastball 11 93.1 -2.4 12.8
Curveball 8 80.6 1.9 -6.7

pfx corresponding to horizontal movement and pfz corresponding to vertical movement, as usual.

Fields was as advertised, a power righty with a fastball that gets into the mid-90s and a strong curve that he'll throw in any count. Nothing in there comes as a surprise. What's interesting to note is that, at least this afternoon, his pitches didn't have much horizontal movement. You'll see a lot of righty fastballs range between -4 and -10 and a lot of righty curveballs range between +3 and +8 (or so). Fields, however, stayed closer to zero, working mostly on the up-down plane and not throwing a lot of tail. (Remember that the numbers refer to deviation, in inches, from a pitch thrown with no spin, and that a negative pfx means the pitch tailed in to righty hitters and away from lefties.)

This shouldn't necessarily come as a surprise, either - it's a function of Fields' arm slot. It's just neat to see it in numbers. Where a lot of guys throw three-quarters and some prefer to drop down, Fields is one of those pure overhand guys, a guy who throws on top of his shoulder and unleashes his stuff on a downward plane, or at least as much of a downward plane as a little person like Fields can manage. When you throw over the top, it's difficult to generate the sort of spin necessary to make balls break left or right. So Fields gets by with a hard and literally almost straight fastball and a curve that travels along a similar path before breaking off the table. Read that sentence over again and you can see what makes him so tricky to hit.

Another thing to consider about Fields' arm slot - remember how Sean Green had a lot of trouble against lefties? Green threw from a sidearm slot that confounded righties but gave lefties a good look at the ball. The slot also wasn't conducive to generating good movement against opposite-handed hitters. By coming over the top, though, Fields should be somewhat immune to exaggerated splits, being similarly effective against righties and lefties alike. He probably won't slaughter righties the way some specialists do, but by not having the splits/exposure problem of many of his brethren, it's easy to see why he's always been considered a future closer. He has the stuff and mechanics such that he shouldn't have to pitch around any batter*, no matter on which side of the plate he's standing.

* if he learns to throw strikes

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Curve hit the zone only twice

and both had contact made on them. All the other curves missed the zone, including 3 straight that Ike Davis swung on to end the inning. It is a very small sample size to worry about this kind of thing, but if he is struggling to locate his secondary pitch, it could explain a good deal of his struggles at AA this year.

by tdot mariner fan on Oct 14, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh goody

A right-hander with bad command of an arrow straight fastball. That’s new and unique.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

They should trade him to the White Sox.

They’ll have him straightened out in no time.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 15, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it was a very bad comparison as far as the totality of the pitcher is concerned

I just find the most annoying quality of Mark Lowe to be the lack of break on his fastball and his inability to locate it, and thus was transferring my annoyance to this our #1 draft pick.

by OlSalty on Oct 15, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which was an oversimplification on my part

But I just have the feeling that the ultimate failing of Mark Lowe will be the ultimate failing of Josh Fields. That being the lack of break on his primary pitch. And Fields does not have the velocity of Mark Lowe with possibly even crappier control from what I have seen of him….Although I probably haven’t seen enough of his curveball to pass judgement on it, but unless it is something approaching Erik Bedard quality….I really don’t know if he is going to work out here. So, I guess what I’m saying is that I’m not really sold on his ability to succeed in the major leagues at this point.

by OlSalty on Oct 15, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it exists, I just can't find it for shit

is there a leaderboard of pitchers with most break on their fastball by PitchFX, least break, etc. ?

by craig3410 on Oct 14, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

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