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OTFPOTD: 1/8/09 - And Now For Something Completely Different...

The first concrete details for the upcoming tactical shooter Aliens: Colonial Marines have been released. I was a little concerned when this game was announced because I really didn't want them to mess it up. But after reading that article, I'm definitely cautiously optimistic.

The Positives:

  • Developed by Gearbox (Counter-Strike, Brothers in Arms series)
  • Looks like a good team of writers
  • Episodic game
  • Looks like the game creates good variety by having the player switch between the different members of the squad for each mission



The Negative:

  • Quick-Time Events. It looks like they're trying to handle the quick-time events in a reasonable way, but I'm generally not a fan of them.



And...for those of you who aren't into video games...umm...err...yeah, I got nuthin'.

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For those of us not all that interested in video games,

who do you think wins the National Championship tonight?

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

Florida

lay the points, take the over

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Florida -7.5

O/U is 69.5. All the books should be right around there.

I might take OU and the points. Either way, I’m excited for a BCS national championship game for the first time in years.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I would be hesitant to bet on OU after the way the rest of the Big 12 has looked in bowls.

Texas barely beat OSU, Ttech and OK state were both beat by supposedely inferior teams, and Missouri should have lost to my fighting Northwestern Wildcats (except our kicker misses PATs)

Florida, meanwhile, beat up some seriously good defenses.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

No, he's right

since much of OU’s alleged superiority has come from watching beat what was supposed to be the best conference in college football, and the bowls have caused us to doubt whether or not they really were beating elite teams.

OU’s defense still sucks though

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, part of the 'they beat up some seriously good defenses' went up in smoke 5 minutes into

the Sugar Bowl.

The SEC has looked strong overall, but I’m leaning towards taking the points in this one.

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I still think Alabama's defense was very good though

they really got better after they figured out what Utah was doing to them, with the formation shifts and not giving away the play too early. I think if they had gameplanned a bit better for the shifts and WR isos that Utah tried to run, they would have won handily.

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

So a team with a supposedly impenetrable D gets 30+ hung on them by a Moutain West team

and they’re still very good? You’re a forgiving guy!

They got better after giving up 21 quick points? Who wouldn’t this apply to? Being great means gameplanning before someone scores 3tds in 5 minutes.

Sorry, I just get so sick of the deference the SEC gets. You know who sucks? John Parker Wilson sucks.

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

The Pac-10 went undefeated in bowls. I just don't put a ton of stock in that.

I’m no expert, and I’m not going to bet. But if I did, +7.5 is a nice spread.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Funnest party games? (I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here)

I’m a big fan of Apples to Apples.
The family loves Imaginiff, but I can’t stand it.

Anyone go old school? Pictionary?

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I love trivial pursuit

but that’s only because I never lose at it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to mention Cranium

We play other games from time to time, but Cranium is the one we consistently go back to.

I previously posted as "Man From Nantucket"

by mem on Jan 8, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Apples to Apples is awesome.

So is Loaded Questions. Mexican Train (dominoes) is really fun too.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 8, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I rule the school at apples to apples

Stupid duel is another game that I found over break that is enjoyable.

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Apples to Apples and Cranium

as have been discussed. But lately, I’m really hooked on Fluxx.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxx

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Something new to look for. Neat!

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Cranium, Apples to Apples and Taboo

Taboo is my favorite for smaller (6-8), Cranium for 9-12 and Apples to Apples for bigger groups

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

So since I can't seem to find a general consenus on this issue, I'd figure I'd ask the techies here. What are good system temperatures?

CPU:38C idle, about 42C load
Motherboard(P5N-D 750i):35C idle, about 37-38C load
GPU:51C idle, about 55-57C load

Are these temps too hot? I know GPU’s are generally meant to run hotter because of the obvious activity, but that still seems a little warm to me.

by Goose on Jan 8, 2009 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

You're well within norms.

Intel has an auto shutoff built in to it’s processors that kick in at 64-68C depending on model. Their recommended operating temps are around 45-50C under load (depending on model again).

The Motherboard is more than healthy (the motherboard temp sensors are usually stuck to the chipset or memory controller, which gives you a good overall look at how hot the subsystems run). I run around 40-45C on any machine I’ve built.

The GPU could be a little high, I’d look for fan obstruction (sometimes the fans face towards heat sinks of other items, or are partially blocked by partitions and wires inside the case). But if you never see it top 60, I don’t think you’ll have a problem. Which manu is that one, EVGA? (They tend to run a little warmer than an XFX or Asus)

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It's Asus.

The GPU was running around 60C on load when I first built this system. But I bought a smaller fan that blows air directly onto the card and did some cable management last week and it dropped the temp down a few degrees.

by Goose on Jan 8, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking up the specs for that card, you're fine.

Where they place the sensors has a higher baseline, and the gpu chip are hardier than processors. The normal operating temps I see are 65C when I’m looking around now. You’ll start to get artifacts around 70C, based on it’s rated melting point of 85C.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes me feel a little better.

My CPU runs around 40 idle, 45 load. I keep thinking it could be lower, since I screwed up mounting it. Actually, I screwed up twice.

The first attempt, after I stood the case upright, the massive heatsink/fan started tilting, and I realized I didn’t work those new twisty peg things right. So I did the right thing – I took everything off and cleaned the grease off, buffed it clean, reapplied and tried again.

On the second attempt, it started leaning again, and this time I said fuck it and pushed it back down and got it right this time. I know I should have re-cleaned and remounted, but I don’t like working with the heatsink and cpu any longer than I have to. It can be scary.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 8, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

The photographer that took that photo

was fired yesterday. Which is bullshit. That’s an awesome photo.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been reading a bit on this...

It’s a newsworthy photo, my take anyway. You can’t see his face, so the photographer actually did a pretty good job of saving this guy’s dignity.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 8, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Assholes.

Awesome photo and I am sure that guy dangling will enjoy having a funny moment like this recorded visually.

by Wilder. on Jan 8, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

With skis on?

And winter gear? I can pull myself up with my abs for the most part, but I couldn’t imagine doing it with gear on.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

If it were me, I would still be hanging there

I previously posted as "Man From Nantucket"

by mem on Jan 8, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

How do people operate well on four hours of sleep?

Got home at 2:15, up for work about 6:30… and I am definitely not at 100% brain function.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

That's been a good night's sleep for me for a while.

I think some people just don’t need as much.

I know my grandmother by the time she got into her 70’s would sleep about 2 hours a night, and didn’t ever seem to show it. A lot of people I share blood with also will only get 4-6 hours a night.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Hoffman ---> Brewers

1 year deal, pretty cheap. Probably the best closer signing in a season of good closer signings.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 8, 2009 8:51 AM PST reply actions  

F-Rod - 3yr/37M?

Although I really dislike the Mets, so I guess it’s good for everyone else.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

How can that be better than Hoffman

at 1/5 – 6 million? The guy had a bad season ERA wise but his peripherals were as good as ever.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I meant that as a counterpoint to a "good" closer signing season.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm hyper-paranoid about oversleeping for anything

to the point where I can reliably wake myself up 5 min before my alarm goes off, just in case something goes wrong with my alarm. Which it never does, but still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say yes, but I'd be lying.

If I have something important scheduled right after I’m slated to wake up, I usually don’t even sleep before it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I have those occasionally, although I have way more of the

“I’m due to be somewhere but can’t get out the door due to all sorts of issues” dreams

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Since there appear to be quite a few cooks around

If you had a long afternoon/evening to bake/create a tasty snack, what would you make?

*Please note that I don’t really like using out of season fruit…other than that I’m fairly open

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 8, 2009 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

Got a great desserts cookbook

for Chrstmas called Tartine (from a frech pastry shop in SF). Everything in it so far is amazing (I’ve done three)

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I vote for a nice creme brulee

local eggs, maybe flavor the sugar… can’t go wrong.

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

I guess the fresh fruit may run afoul of the NOLA’s rule above… hmm. A raspberry glaze from frozen, local berries?

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

There goes my suggestion of grilled/baked apples and brandy.

But why on earth are you not making bananas foster as your first and foremost dessert, miss NOLA?

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

what about platanos!?

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

This is oh so very true...

My wife’s grandfather’s cousin in FLA had a banana tree in her yard, and she laughed at how insanely crazy I went when I plucked some prime fruits off that tree and ate them on the spot.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 8, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never had a "fresh" banana,

but it’s now on my list of things to do before I die.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm absolutely flabbergasted.

How can someone not like bananas, and especially bananas foster in NOLA?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm.

For starters, a salad with orange slices, caramelized walnuts, and butter lettuce leaves.

Then a course of artichoke risotto.

And for dessert, bread pudding (slathered with caramelized goat’s milk before baking).

Well, that’s an entire meal, but hey.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 8, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes that is an entire minute.

And bread pudding is only allowed whiskey or rum sauce.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 8, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

You've obviously never had the variety with caramelized goat's milk.

Which, sadly, is a bitch to obtain.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 8, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

bake the malt vinegar?

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't care

I just want to eat it.

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife makes the following cookies for the winter holidays.

Make peanut butter cookie dough. Surround “fun size” Snickers bars with the dough. Bake the cookies. When the cookies are done, take melted chocolate and drizzle over cookies. Let the melted chocolate cool and enjoy. Whip cream can be added too. They are best when still warm and the Snickers are melty on the inside, but they are still great when cool.

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by Jed MC on Jan 8, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

speaking of which I have a question for food type people

I need to shred approximately six pounds of brisket. I don’t have a food processor, and the concept of shredding six pounds of brisket with a couple of forks really doesn’t thrill me (although I’ll do it if I have to). Any idea how I can shred that much meat?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

stupidly, I never thought of that

I guess I figured that the blender was just for making drinks and such. Shows what I know.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

beefaritas!

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

or if you like Charlie Kelly cuisine,

Turkey Sangria

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Making carne seca for approximately 15 people

and want to have some left over for myself afterwards.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

If you alone can eat six pounds of shredded brisket in its intended taco form*

I will gladly provide six pounds of brisket and watch you go to town.

*intended taco form = small flour tortillas, carne seca, chopped onions, sprinkle of white cheese, squeeze of lime, hot sauce as necessary

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

not to be immodest but it really is

I cook very few things with any degree of proficiency, but this is one of ‘em. I’ll send you the recipe when I send it to phildo.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

me too.

Oh, and where’s the chopped cilantro?

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Throw me on that list?

I’ll update my profile right now. I need a new dish. Barbecue pork ribs are awesome, but I’m a one-trick pony.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Done and done (momentarily)

cilantro is definitely a nice addon, but not required.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Go find the Asplundh guys wherever they are trimming trees.

1.) Place bowl on other side of large tree branch shredder
2.) Hurl slab of tender brisket into large tree branch shredder
3.) Remove residual wood chunks from shredded beef
4.) Serve, garnish with pine needles

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

You could try running over the brisket with your lawn mower.

You’d end up with a mower bag full of tasty goodies.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

This is really gross, so proceed at your own risk:

When I was younger we had a cocker spaniel who had the typical intestinal problems that comes from in-breeding. It was my chore to mow the lawn, and sometimes I didn’t clean up all the dog poop in the back yard, and thus would run over the piles with the mower. Sometimes the chopped up poo smelled like nacho cheese.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 8, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

the leftover carne seca will invariably end up in a nacho concoction by the way

chips
black beans
carne seca
cheese
Dave’s Hurtin’ Habanero to taste (the more the better)

layer all the ingredients in the above order in a Pyrex baking dish. Bake at 300 degrees for 20-22 min. Serve with side of Mrs. Renfro’s green salsa.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Would be better as a taco salad.

Skip the cheese, add some crunchy greens. Dump the salsa on top.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

and if you've used the lawn mower shredding method,

you are already most of the way there

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

oooh that's a good idea

saying the phrase “skip the cheese” is like speaking Russian, though – I literally do not understand it. hahaha.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Where'd you get your recipe then?

Or are you going to tell me to use a blender a la Matthew?
This is awfully complicated for a person with limited kitchen supplies

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I never minded it, except for the pizza place I worked at.

But then again I’m not a big football fan.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It's a bitch.

From 1998 to 2007, the only Super Bowl I saw was the Seahawks one because I managed to get out of work.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I was up here at work. I got back to camp at halftime, saw the score, and said to hell with it.

I picked up a book and read for a bit. I was gonna check the scores before crashing and turned my tv back on just in time to see the final 2 minutes of the game.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 8, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I got lucky.

My dad and I tuned in to the last quarter and the overtimes.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 8, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

?
Last Super Bowl was the best football game I’ve ever seen.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh. I thought JI was either to a play that was fucked up

Youtube and work do not play nicely with one another.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

It was in honor of JI.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

For me that would be Monday night Sep 25, 2006.

Saints first home game since Hurricane Katrina. I watched the game in a bar full of Saints fans and Louisiana transplants. Throughout the whole game there was just this emotional pull holding us together. As the game ended there wasn’t a dry eye there and I was filled with this euphoric glow of perfect contentment and a feeling that hope was real. I will remember that day forever.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 8, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That game was pretty amazing, even watching on TV.

The blocked punt on the first drive, sending that crowd into a frenzy . . . it was quite a moment.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

you surely can't mean ever. Kornheiser hardly ceases from talking.

But I agree. As much BS as there is in locker rooms of teams (the egos! the women! the strip club shootings!), that was the greatest show of team unity I’ve seen in the nfl.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

The newsroom is usually full of jerseys on Fridays, but nothing today.

But we did hang a banner over the building (where the 8 meets the 163) that says “Go Chargers! We’re proud of you!”

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Dress up as LT's torn groin tendon.

Then sit 10 feet from your desk with your visor on and grimace for 4 hours.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

One of our main IT guys rocks an Eric Weddle jersey.

Nothing against Eric Weddle, and it’s nice to see something other than LT, but that just seemed like a hilarious choice.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

wanted to support a white person I guess

and all the Jacob Hester jerseys were sold out

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Just one time, I want to see someone rock the jersey of a non Pro Bowl offensive lineman

can you imagine walking around Seattle in a Chris Gray jersey? I think this would be fantastic

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone

who owns a kicker or punter jersey that isn’t directly related to one.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

My brother has a Josh Brown Seahawaks jersey.

He chose it over Trufant and Tatupu, which I advised him against because: 1) Josh Brown only had one year left on his contract, 2) kicker’s field goal performances are volatile, and Josh Brown could easily turn into a goat after any big game, and 3) dude’s a fucking kicker. I mean . . . c’mon.

by FlaskInSafeco on Jan 8, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, Jeremy Stevens and Josh Brown,

the two heros of Super Bowl XL. Jeremy Stevens of course also being a hero of date rape and DUIs.

by FlaskInSafeco on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

That's the one I recommended for my brother.

If only he had heeded the sage advise of his older brother. I feel pretty secure with my Cortez Kennedy jersey. It helps when the player is already retired.

by FlaskInSafeco on Jan 8, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that was a divine intervention game.

It’s truly awesome to watch when a team of athletes plays a game with the intensity that the saints played with, knowing what it meant for everyone.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

2003 Miami (Fl.) vs Ohio State
2006 Texas vs. usc

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I love going places on Super Bowl Sunday

because nobody’s in stores or anything. It’s awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember seeing footage of the streets of Green Bay during a MNF game at Lambeau

and there was literally not a soul out there, sort of like the pictures of Christmas London that made it here earlier.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

This gets me thinking

What do you think is the best sporting day (or two days in sports)

I used to say Opening Day and the end of March Madness but thanks to people fucking that up, I’ll go with the divisional round of the NFL playoffs.

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

End of MM?

first day of March Madness is way better. I almost think the tournament is anti-climactic

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to agree, and I don't even care that much for basketball.

It’s just so much, so fast. Plus everyone’s into it so they don’t care if you’re not working.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree. The excitement of bball on all day, all the interesting first round matchups, the start

 of a bunch of interesting story lines… First round MM is king

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I used to time my Spring Training trips so I'd be in AZ for the first weekend of MM

nothing better than baseball all day and sports bar all night.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Opening day is great.

I actually prefer the opening rounds of March Madness because to me that’s where the most excitement potential occurs with upsets and whatnot.

by Omerta on Jan 8, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

So I "quit" videogames almost two years ago by giving up all of the systems/games I had

because I felt like they were taking up too much of my time and I wanted to accomplish some things. Now that I’ve accomplished “some things,” I’m considering getting back into them again.

In particular I’m interested in the best baseball game available, for whatever system. To me, the best baseball game has a combination of decent gameplay, non-repetitive “announcers,” and the most important part, a great season simulator so I can tinker with rosters GM style. Any suggestions?

Oh also while were at it what is the best system, in everyone’s respective opinion, to have (largest selection of good games, best graphics, most reliable, etc.)?

by Omerta on Jan 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

I loved that game!

Gorilla.bas

I previously posted as "Man From Nantucket"

by mem on Jan 8, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Some of the best games I've played this generation have been 2D.

I started playing Braid again last night. And World of Goo is a blast, too.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

No it's not. Pong in 1D would never end.

Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!

by joof on Jan 8, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You could actually argue that it is indeed 1-D

Since you can only manipulate your actor along one line. The plane where the ball bounces around is only serving as a proxy for time, too.

by Graham MacAree on Jan 8, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Official LL line:

Best Baseball Game – Show 08 for PS3
Best System (by far) – XB360

I’ll let Brian explain later on.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks.

I knew this conversation had taken place at some point before but I was too lazy to scroll back through old OFTOPs/use the search function.

by Omerta on Jan 8, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Good summary.

We’ve had this conversation like 20 times, haven’t we?

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Blu-Ray...

The new Ghostbusters video game release is supposed to coincide with the release of the original movie on Blu-Ray. June 16, 2009. Mark your calendar, BrianL.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 8, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Just read up on it.

I may hold off entirely on purchasing a system until it’s released in March.

by Omerta on Jan 8, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

And I'm awake.

As far as the best system for pure gaming, it’s probably the 360. The PS3, while a powerful unit, has proven very difficult for developers to code for. Most devs spend their time coding for the PC/360 then port over to the PS3 months/year later. Another reason to get the 360 is for Xbox Live, Microsoft’s online multiplayer and storefront service. It stands head and shoulders above anything Nintendo and Sony offers.

Unfortunately the baseball game the 360 has blows because 2K sports seems to be staffed by the biggest morons in the industry. MLB: The Show is the best current-gen baseball game on the market because it doesn’t suffer from shitty framerates and doesn’t feature Joe Morgan.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

After one of your players hits a homer

“You know, it’s always good to see consistency from a hitter. I’d like to talk about how this guy has been playing lately, but I just haven’t had a chance to see them in action enough to make a judgment. But you have to say that was an impressive hit.”

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Eww Morgan.

But you make a good point about Xbox Live, so I’ll take that into consideration. Thanks.

by Omerta on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

See, that's my thing.

I know the 360 is the better console and I’m not a very demanding gamer so the $200 entry level model (which is the only one I could afford at the moment) would be fine for me. But I spend at least 75% of my video game playing time on baseball games, and it seems pointless to spend money when I could get MLB 09 for PS2 and end up with a better overall gaming experience.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 8, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair.

The PS3 does come with a blu ray player. But not too many good games, even though it has really good graphics.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but standalone blu-ray players have gotten so cheap Sony can't really use that as a marketing tool anymore.

They used to be able to say “Yeah, but fifty dollars more will not only get you a Blu Ray player, but a gaming console.” Now that spread has grown to about $250.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a PS2.

I guess my point is that I want a next-gen console, but until the price comes down on the PS3 or there’s a good baseball series on the 360, I don’t want to make the jump.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 8, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

But not as much fun as advertised for the most part.

I have one, and I am still going to buy a 360.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I love my Nintendo Wii. I guess I am not a big fan of first person shooters, so each person has different tastes.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Wii Fit is still damn fun.

And those pushups still kick my ass.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea I got the Wii Fit for Christmas

I love it. What kicks my ass is the yoga. Its so hard to balance right.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The "Fit" is pretty fun,

and certain sports games and things, but it’s not the same as having a true “gaming” console in my opinion. I don’t look at it as "pick on of these three systems:

Wii
360
PS3

I look at it as PIck between the 360 and the PS3 for serious gaming, and own a Wii for the “Fit” and group games during parties and stuff.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And the Super Mario games.

Maybe I am a kid at heart but I still enjoy Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

smash brothers is awesome.

We just rented mario kart so I’ll be trying this tonight. Can’t wait.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man, I love Mario Kart Wii.

Just don’t use the wheel…it sucks. Either use a Gamecube controller (if you have one) or the Wiimote/Nunchuck.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 8, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The wheel is okay.

I’ve never tried it with the Wiimote.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

This is good to know

we got the wheel (wii-l?) but I’ll have to try it with the wiimote too.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If winning isn't a big deal to you, the wheel is fun.

We use it when people come over, and I think it’s fun. But if I were playing online, or if I gave a shit otherwise, I’d use the controllers.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I've actually never tried the controller.

I may find it preferable if it makes things easier.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It probably will.

The wheel is definitely a gimmick, but I consider most of my Wii time dedicated to enjoying the whole Wii gimmick anyway, so I’m cool with it.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure either.

I’ve never tried it without the wheel.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a couple ways.

I’m assuming what people here are talking about is:

Nunchuk in left hand, using the analog stick to steer, and Wiimote in right hand to jump and fire and shit.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here.

I could imagine the game without the wheel.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I own a Wii and make fun of it all the time,

but Mario Galaxy is reason enough to own one.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I disdained my wife when she strongly wanted a Wii

and I still think “man, why do we have one of those”, but then I also spend many hours playing smash brothers, so apparently I’m part of the problem.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly.

I’m such a casual game-player that I couldn’t imagine wanting or needing a 360 or PS2.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I am the same as you.

I am not into the hardcore gamer/first person shooter games, so the Wii is perfect for my needs.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll get off your lawn now...

…but hey – your and my generation was the first generation of in-home video game system kids, so…

But yeah, that’s me, too. The intense gaming-freak games are too hard for me. And too boring or something. The Wii works for me. I could bowl until my arm falls off…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 8, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Wii bowling is fun,

but it just makes me want to go do the real thing.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

There are other games I've enjoyed, too.

Zack and Wiki and World of Goo are awesome (though both can be had on PC, I believe). Boom Blox is fun for a while.

I have Super Paper Mario, which I’ve heard is good, but I have yet to play it.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I should get that.

Is it more like the old style Mario games? I am not sure exactly what it is.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my impression as well.

It’s a 2D game, but there are times when you can turn it 3D to get past certain parts.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I would have to rent it.

I think my girlfriend wants it more than I do.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I am wondering how the MLB game for the Wii will be this year.

It will be sweet if you could throw and hit using the Wii remote.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The motion is overrated.

You have no real control over the pitches or swings.

Gamefly Mario Sluggers (Or whatever its called) and you’ll see.

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by Faux on Jan 8, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone ever eaten here?

Siam on Lake Union

Growing up in the household I did, I never could eat at an oriental restaurant because the food was so much better at home. Siam may be the only asian-themed restaurant I actually enjoy.

If you do make it down there, be sure to try their Cashew Chicken Delight meal.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

That link makes everything look delicious.

Doesn’t help that I’m starving right now.

But also feeling exceptionally lazy. Padrinos time.

by Omerta on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Fine choice.

Or a cat. Or a snake. Ferret. Turtle. Whatever.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I recommend a Nutria. more proper representatino of Rodantia,

and they are free on the streets of NOLA.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

one of the greatest episodes of Insomniac with Dave Attel:

he is in NOLA, and goes driving around with the police officers shooting nutria from the back of a police pickup truck.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

That show was so awesome it made me not realize what a crap comic Dave Attell actually is

I went to see him do standup solely on the basis of loving Insomniac, and was very disappointed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

uh that would be David Cross

unless I’m missing a Dave Attell skit or something. in which case, link?

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah now I remember that

I’ve got AD in the pile at home to rewatch but it’s been a few years since I’ve seen it.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The specifics:

When a show called ScandalMakers wanted to tell the Bluth family story, they cast Dave Attell as Tobias, which was funny seeing David Cross next to Dave Attell, with Attell wondering out loud why he was wearing cutoffs.

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Also a tremendous plot line

reminiscent of Lewis Black commenting on how they wanted to make a movie about him, he tried out, and did not get the part. Apparently, he said, someone out there is better at being me.. THAN MEE!!!!!!!!!

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's all flooding back to me now.

that was funny indeed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He makes me laugh.

I don’t recommend him to many people, though. Kinda like David Cross. It’s definitely not for everyone.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

David Cross's Squagels routine is one of my favorites ever.

The way he takes a simple joke on a topic that is not in any way funny, manages to build it up for at least two full minutes and then deliver the knockout blow on something so benign… tremendous.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Attell.

also, the song was great.

“Kick the sandman in the SACK! Stay up late! Insomniac”

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The more I learned about turtles after purchasing mine,

the more I regreted getting one. She’s a pretty cool little turtle when she’s above ground though.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Shut up, shut up, shut up!

I’m only a few years from having the kids out of the house for good!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I try not to think about it.

Much like my beer expenditures.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

the fortunate thing about beer expenditure

if you spend a ton on beer in one night, you may never recall the exact cost.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

easy solution.

drink until you forget they existed in the first place

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

In what respect?

Like living with you when they are old and senile?

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

no, like when you turn 18 and they want $50K back because you wasted it

on stupid Jonas Brothers crap and the like as a preteen.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

like... we spend 397,412 on you over your life son.

we’ll take that in cash when you get the chance

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

Clay Aiken was able to make a child by himself.

by Fin on Jan 8, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

Maybe this.

Oh, you said someone.

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 8, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The Sonics are playing SxSW this year goddamit

Anybody ever been to SxSW? I’ve always wanted to go and this year I cannot. Here’s the preliminary lineup.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

I went last year.

I didn’t have tickets but got in through the back a couple times. ALL the bands I saw were amazing, although I can’t remember any of the names. Over all its sure to be an amazing scene.

by JMKaustin on Jan 8, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I appreciate that, guys....

the little video they played before the Sonics Halloween show this year showed press clippings from all over the world, pretty much all of which got their hometown right. I’m actually somewhat suspicious that a savvy reader of an alt-weekly in Stockholm would know where in the hell Tacoma is, but the writer/editor thought they would.

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not like it's hard to look up an official bio of the band, though

so there’s really no excuse for getting something like that wrong.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

So how about a random cell phone question.

I have the Sprint Cero plan and my contract is about up. I want a new phone but will not change my plan (seriously, it’s awesome). Anyone have any thoughts on Sprints current lineup? I’m restricted to a non-smart phone with the plan so no blackberrys. I think I’ve narrowed it down to either the LG Lotus or the Samsung Rant. Anyone have any pros or cons on either (or others)? I’m assuming you guys get Sprint way out there on the left coast.

by DCMariner on Jan 8, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

I have a Motorola Q with Sprint, and I like it.

But I think that qualifies as a smartphone, huh?

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I pay dirt for the data plan, though, which is nice.

Unlimited data, 300 text messages and way more minutes than I could ever use for $50 a month.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I have the old Cero

Unlimited data, unlimited texts, free power vision, 500 anytime, free nights and weekends for a little under $30. The no smartphone thing is the only caveat (that and Sprints crappy customer service) but I can definitely live with it.

by DCMariner on Jan 8, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, I thought I had it cheap.

I was jonesing for some Internet, though, so I got the Q.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Sanyo, Sanyo, Sanyo

The high end sanyos are the best non pda phones on the market

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Sanyo

my parents bought a Sanyo television set back in 1990. It’s still running. The damn thing refuses to die.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I can attest to the quality of Sanyo stuff...

My first digital camera was a Sanyo. It’s a crappy camera, feature-wise, but it’s still up and running just fine! And I put that thing through hell…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 8, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Why don't I ever find an old baseball card in my basement. Hrrrmph.

Elderly woman finds 1866 baseball card, tries to sell it for ten bucks on e-bay. Anybody ever discover anything remotely Antique Road Show worthy?

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by Kermit. on Jan 8, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

I stumbled onto a Conn 10M tenor saxophone in my great grandmother's basement after she passed away.

Good shape, manufactured around 1946-48. Rough guess but based on the serial number I figure it’s worth about $4,600.

Didn’t sell it, though. I got to keep it and now it’s my primary tenor saxophone.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice! My grandad had a '49 Mercury coupe back of his barn.

Like every other farmer from his generation, I swear they never got rid of any old equipment. He sold it to a pheasant hunter for $400. So I guess that guy got the amazing find. (Insert frowny face thingy here.)

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 8, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

then there's this...

Goldmine

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I saw that the other day, sex on wheels man.

I like that photo the best, the ones I’ve seen it’s all polished up ready for auction. I’d literally crap my pants if I threw the barn door open and found that sitting inside.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 8, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

When McGwire broke the single season home run record,

I went through my box of baseball cards. To my astonishment, I found a McGwire rookie card. I called up the local cardshop to estimate the goldmine I was sitting on. Turns out, there were more than one type of McGwire rookie card, and the card showing McGwire in his A’s uniform was worth essentially jack, while the valuable card was McGwire in a USA jersey.

Oh well.

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I've found many a valuable record while combing through thrift stores

But ‘valuable’ in this context is nowhere near this baseball card example. Maybe $100 or so.

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Who the #$&% is Jackson Pollock?

Just watched it on my Netflix Roku box the other day. Interesting movie!

Hmmm. I think finding a Curt Schilling rookie worth about $3 in the box of worthless commons is one of my best baseball card stories. Other than finding my dad’s card collection with a Sandy Koufax rookie Ed Matthews rookie and Hank Aaron’s 2nd card…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 8, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Jackson Pollock.

But I have heard of stories where people have found his work at garage sales and made a few hundred thousand. However, I don’t know why anyone would buy his paintings. I should just crap on a canvas and see what kind of an artist I could become.

by Wilder. on Jan 8, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you hate the idea of Jackson Pollock...

The whole point of Jackson Pollock is that while people think just anyone off the street can paint stuff like he did, in reality Pollock proved that even in abstracted chaos that seemingly anyone without any training in art could create, there’s uniqueness and style that just cannot be imitated.

While people have tried to copy and imitate his works, one of the major points of the film is the question “Prove it ISN’T a Jackson Pollock” — and the proof in the pudding to me anyway is that you can’t. Certainly the “experts” in the art field are presented at polemic extremes to make a point with the film and to provide some “tension” (otherwise it’d be a boring, pointless and meaningless film) about this. But there are legitimate explanations for their doubt (mainly that Pollock threw out a LOT of works or gave away pieces for nothing that were worthless to him because they didn’t achieve his normal standards for quality and style).

It’s a similar battle with discovering “art” in photography. Almost anyone can grab a decent camera and make a “pretty picture” — but it’s quite the challenge to create “art.”

I really want to go to art school at some point in my life to further study this, but if there’s one thing I’ve gained in my personal rediscovery of photography that I missed the first time around it is the understanding of artistic merit and going beyond making “pretty pictures” into making “art.” I’m nowhere near where I want to be with this, but I’m improving and gaining a better understanding for what “art” means for me (and certainly EVERYONE’S understanding of “art” is vastly different).

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by PositivePaul on Jan 9, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The only people I went to HS with that played college ball played there.

One of them was one of the only nice people at Capital that was on the football team. So that sucks for him I guess.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 8, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

EWU?

WWU is pretty good, but not on EWU’s level it seems to me….

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

And they would

I’m just not sure they would’ve beat EWU, who play FCS.
EWU dropped 24 on this year’s Texas Tech team. I know the Big-12 defenses aren’t that great, but I’m almost positive neither WSU or UW could’ve done that.

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I said FBS, and totally meant FCS

I meant that EWU was def. the best, I just couldn’t resist one more shot at Washington’s Pac Ten schools

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone know when they will be releasing map packs for COD5?

I’ve been looking and had heard around the New Year, but never heard anything else

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

In the brilliant words of KSK's version of Brett Favre:
Lettoll demoll meedya typespeckuhlatin kinda willie wonnie Brittfarr willie wonnie

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by abender20 on Jan 8, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He can take all the time he wants to decide it

as long as he SHUTS THE FUCK UP ABOUT EVERY “STEP” OF THE “PROCESS”. Flip a goddamn coin, throw a dart, whatever, just keep it to your damn self until you make a decision, Brett.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

 Leave another tems hanging until right before training camp. It helps your image tremendously.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't even blame him anymore

it wouldn’t be a story if the national media didn’t make it one.

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

So he’s indecisive; ok, whatever. Where his plane is, or who he spoke to IS NOT A NATIONAL STORY. Stop reporting it!

by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Peter King,

but I blame him for this.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I like his writing.

It’s kind of a different point of view than most NFL writers.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Jersey count, work today

People wearing jerseys of players who won’t play on Sunday @ Pittsburgh – 25
People wearing jerseys of players who will play – 1

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

Wear what you have I suppose.

Not everyone can afford to go buy a new jersey when a player gets hurt.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Understood.

I just get edgy about stuff like that, because I hate it when people mock fans who are wearing an old jersey, or one for someone who has left the team. Maybe it was a gift, or maybe it’s the only jersey they can afford. At least they’re sporting the team colors is how I look at it.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The only time I make fun of it when:

1. The player whose jersey you’re wearing is now on the opposing team.

2. You are wearing full A’s garb (including pants) to a Chargers-Seahawks game. (I enjoy sports!)

Those were the two most flagrant that I’ve seen.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I also like the "two competing sports" look

of wearing your football team’s jersey and baseball hat from your favorite baseball team.

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by pdb on Jan 8, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

If the only thing you have is a Josh Brown jersey, don’t wear it to a Seahawks/Rams game. And as for the full “wrong sport” garb, I have to admit I’ve yet to see that. But if I did I think I would kick the guy right in the sack and spill his groceries.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was highly confused.

Wrong sport, wrong city, and neither team was from even close to Oakland. Maybe he really didn’t like the Mariners and figured this was the best way to show it.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What about the right sport, wrong team stuff

where people wear, for example, a Cubs jersey to a Mariners-Rangers game? [And the Cubs jersey is not of a player who is now, or once was on the Mariners or Rangers]

Hats I can excuse, because pretty much all of my caps are sports-related, but don’t wear a jersey just to prove you own a jersey.

by Matthew on Jan 8, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I wore a my Mariners teal to a Cubs game at Wrigley once

and stood around with a guy who was wearing an Indians jersey.

On the other hand, I’m (obviously) from Seattle. That might be the single exception.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Which brings me to ask what everyones dream jersey wishlist is. I think I would go for a powder blue Harold Reynolds M’s, bright orange Mike Alstott Buc’s, and either the green Ron Francis Whaler’s or red Al Iafrate Cap’s sweater.

by DCMariner on Jan 8, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. Tough call.

I still don’t have my first M’s jersey yet (even though I’ve asked for one on every birthday and Christmas for the last 5 years or so), so any one of those would make me happy.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Anybody watching the National Title game?

Yikes that was a terrible rendition of the National Anthem.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

Shit.

No. Still stuck at work. Why do they have this damn thing on a weeknight?!?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand that,

so why not do the Championship sometime before mid-January? It’s ridiculous how late it happens anyway.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 8, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of the extra week they put between the Super Bowl.

Extend. Extend. Extend.

More media coverage = more money

Someday they will figure out how to extend the calendar from 365 days to 400.

by Wilder. on Jan 8, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The two week thing is because of 9/11

I believe it was only 1 week that year. Kind of a stupid reason since I doubt something like that happens again but I believe that is the reasoning.

by Mariner John on Jan 8, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I love how it constantly runs up to 20-30 seconds.

I don’t see the point of it. Their hurry-up offense isn’t that fast of a tempo. And it’s not quick snaps that makes their offense, it’s the big plays.

I am guessing someone worked the entire week on creating the thing and they just want to use it because it’s another graphic to use.

by Wilder. on Jan 8, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This Florida backfield formation is cluttered.

I would think they would be better spreading things out. Give Tebow room to run and get their fast receivers more out in the open.

by Wilder. on Jan 8, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought so too.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 8, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The public Beta of Windows 7 comes out tommorow.

I think this is the first time I’ve waited for an actual legitimate beta. Anybody else gonna download it?

by Goose on Jan 8, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

Definitely.

I’ve been looking forward to this release for a while.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok now people are saying that it's just if you want to upgrade. You can't upgrade from XP.

Apparently you can still do a clean install(which obviously you should do anyways).

I hope that is the case.

by Goose on Jan 8, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what I did

Took about 20 minutes total.

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet

This article confirms that you can do a clean upgrade.

So with that, I’m canceling my acquisition of Vista SP1.

by Goose on Jan 8, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Been using it as my full time OS on both my laptop and desktop for a week.

Daemon tools doesn’t work otherwise its the best OS I’ve ever used.

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Both are 32 bit for the moment

Desktop
Athlon 64 3000
2 GB Ram
Radeon 9700 pro

Laptop
Turion X2 2.0Ghz
2 GB Ram
Radeon HD 3200

by Robert on Jan 8, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It'll be out at noon PST.

So says this article.

There’s only 2.5 Million legitimate keys available when it hits, and I imagine it’ll go fast.

by Goose on Jan 9, 2009 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Best song from Labyrinth:

Dance Magic Dance or As The World Falls Down?

by Dewey N on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

AM I really the only one who can't stand this movie?

Dance Magic Dance was really catchy but not necessarily good. And I’m not fond of Muppet type creatures that aren’t the Muppets.

by Mariner John on Jan 8, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved it.

I realize you have to look past a shitload of cheesiness and a sprinkling of mediocre acting to appreciate this movie. However, I was the right age for it when it came out (I was 14 in 1986), and had been jonseing for a fantasy Henson film since the Dark Crystal. I will still watch either one anytime.

by royalcurve on Jan 8, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Toto's "Africa"

I love that song so much but I’ve never been able to explain why.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Because it's awesome?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 9, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like the Seattle-PI

is up for sale but expected to go belly-up in the next few months.

The report, which also appeared on the station’s Web site, added that “Hearst does not expect another buyer to step forward and that Seattle will likely become a one-newspaper town within the next few months.”

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 10:01 PM PST reply actions  

There's a lot of uncertainty surrounding the accuracy of those reports, FWIW.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not either. Sure would suck though. I like the PI way more than I like the Times.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I much prefer the PI.

Honestly if the PI folds and the Times stays in business I’m going to be surprised. I’ve always felt it would be the other way around.

by BrianL on Jan 8, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there's a good chance

 they’re both going to be out of business (at least in their current form) within five years anyway.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 8, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's pretty cloudy right now.

I love the P-I, but honestly, if a corporation like Hearst can’t make the business work even while being subsidized by the Blethen family, it needs a new setup. Or it needs to not exist.

The P-I is awesome, and I have several friends who currently write/edit for the paper, but it was always being propped up by a forced system that wasn’t really sustainable. Having two newspapers in a city is awesome, because nothing creates good journalism like good competition. But my free-market self isn’t a fan of a company like Hearst depending on money from a competitor.

As someone in this industry, it pains me to say this, but this always seemed inevitable.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You're 93 years old and you don't know who Alf is?

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jan 8, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know why I remember this

But in Kindergarten I cried because I was given an Alf illustrated children’s book. I guess I must’ve thought he was ugly or something, so seeing that thing always brings me back to that moment.

by Fin on Jan 9, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

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