WTF? "Smoltz on verge of deal with Red Sox"?
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 7, 2009 8:34 PM PST
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Apparently Smoltz may be going to the Red Sox in one of the more unpredictible moves of the offseason. Reported by ESPN so its a little more credible than your typical rumor.
Smoltz has been great lately and looked to be doing well last year if it wasn't for the injury he sustained. I'm pretty surprised Boston went after Smoltz because their rotation should be pretty set although I guess everybody could find room for him in their rotation. Although it kills Smoltz's value, it would be interesting to see if he is used in Boston's rotation or the bullpen.
This really hurts the Braves since they were looking for a pitcher.
Apparently the contract is 5 mil base and up to 10.5 mil total.
(Olney's post doubled in size and details right as I posted this)
At the bottom is some speculation of trading young pitching (Clay Buchholz) for a catcher. We have a lot of catchers....Lets make a deal!
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If only Kenji was serviceable last year
Buchholz is tempting.
by katal on Jan 7, 2009 8:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure we could put together an interesting package that the Red Sox would find interesting
We’ve got Kenji, Clement, Johnson, or Moore. I’d say all could be available but the expected package varies a fair amount depending on which would be involved.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 7, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You couldn't get Buchholz if you packaged all four of those guys together
by DarkLou on Jan 7, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right. If only because the Red Sox don't want four catchers.
But if you don’t think they’d take a package of Clement + Moore you’re crazy.
by katal on Jan 8, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also if the Braves are looking for pitchers...
we have those too
by greymstreet on Jan 7, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
NO000000oooooooo!
I wanted us to sign him gaah.
BOOYA! You got Slurved!
by Slurvey on Jan 7, 2009 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Neither was Boston.
WTF?
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jan 8, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buchholz
has been rumored as a possible partner with Texas for Teagarden or Saltalamacchia, both of whom have much more value than Clement, Moore, or Johnson.
by tait644 on Jan 7, 2009 10:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how Saltalamacchia has more value than Clement
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 7, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's younger and has performed better?
by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jarrod has never played more than 54 games in a season at C
If I’m Boston I wouldn’t seek Clement or Saltalamacchia. Both have tenuous futures as catchers.
by katal on Jan 8, 2009 6:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He would have played many more had the Braves not had McCann
by JI on Jan 8, 2009 9:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or if the Rangers didn't have Teagarden, Laird, and Ramirez
Salty’s value>>Clement’s value.
by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see why he'd be marginally a better prospect
but I don’t see how he’s significantly better.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 8, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not more valuable by orders of magnitude or anything
but he’s more valuable than Clement by a decent margin. He’s hit better, played better defense and hasn’t had health problems. He’s two years younger.
by acblue on Jan 8, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's hit somewhat better at a younger age than Clement, yes.
I’m not necessarily saying he’s a sure-thing to be a better player going forward, but I think it’s fair to say he’s a more valuable commodity at this time.
by acblue on Jan 8, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Adjusting for age and park, definitely.
But it’s the two surgeries that really tip the scales, at least for me.
by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Played better defense?
I thought hardly anybody thought Salty was sticking at catcher.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 8, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So far as I am aware that's because he was blocked, not due to concerns about his defense.
I’ve never heard his defensive abilities called into serious doubt.
by acblue on Jan 8, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard concerns about Salty's defense, but not to the degree we've heard about Clement.
All other things equal, I’d rather have Clement’s bat, but I think Salty has a better chance of sticking at catcher
by Teej on Jan 8, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's more or less how I see it
Salty’s a notch better due to defence+lack of injuries but it’s hardly a blowout
by Graham on Jan 8, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that you're trying to be objective here
Seems like you’re doing a damn fine job.
I’m not quite at the point where I can be objective about Asdrubal Cabrera. Getting there, but not yet. You’re adjusting more quickly.
by marc w on Jan 8, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'd agree with that
I can’t decide if these two prospects are very alike and I can’t figure out if they are underrated, overrated or valued correctly by us/baseball.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 8, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, i used the term package to mean it wouldn't be straight up Johnson for Buchholz
That’d be a super stupid thing to say.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 7, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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