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So this is what it's like to get up at a decent hour. Can't say I'm a fan.

Star-divide

I really don't have much to say today; just thought I would actually post an OFFTOP at a normal hour for once. My brain doesn't really work all that well on five hours of sleep any more, which kind of sucks. While I know I'm not old by any means, I have started noticing certain things that remind me I'm not a kid (in a chronological sense) any longer either. Needing more sleep to function effectively, joints screaming at me before it starts to rain, constant hip pain, that sort of thing. Also, more frequent (and more intense) hangovers, which is probably for the best. When was the first time you realized your high school self could probably beat the snot out of you?

Also, good gravy that wind yesterday was unpleasant. Trudging across the 520 bridge to Bellevue at 15 MPH with waves crashing over the sides was a blast. I know that sort of thing is par for the course in Seattle this time of year, but after the snow it seems like we deserve a few days of sunshine, or at least boring old drizzle. I know other folks love inclement weather, though; any favorites? Personally, lightning and wind storms scare the bejeezus out of me, but I really enjoy random cloudbursts in 80 degree weather in the summertime.

 

And so forth and so on.

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Only if you can beat me to it.

Turnabout is fair play, after all.

(I’m kidding, but probably no one will listen to you anyways)

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by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm already thinking I'm probably too old to be drinking the way I am.

I dread the multiple day hangover I feel will come next week.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 7, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beer beer water

Repeat this pattern as long as you’re drinking and hangovers will be significantly less.

by coolguyrob on Jan 7, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

The older I get the better it works. Which is more likely because experience has taught me to be more disciplined in sticking with the pattern.

by coolguyrob on Jan 7, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Depressingly I've found

that the only thing that works for me is drinking less.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This makes me die a little inside.

Yeah, I know I stole that from NOLA.

by coolguyrob on Jan 7, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's the battle I'm fighting with myself these days

that making wholesale, yet baby-stepish, changes to the eating and drinking lifestyle isn’t really a bad thing. I’m kinda done with feeling crappy the next day after drinking too much – that’s not to say it’ll never happen again, I know myself better than that, but it’ll happen much less frequently from this point forwards.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have some beer almost every night, and for years I could drink 3-4 with no ill effects.

That’s not really ideal; now two is my absolute limit on a school night. I can still get shitty on the weekends or whatever and be fine by early afternoon, but if I have more than two I can tell the next day. I it’s my body’s way of letting me know I need to reign it in, and so I will.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Check back with him in 10 years

I never got hangovers at all until I was about 30.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me either

That first one was something of a shock.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can get hangovers but 99.9% of the time it depends on what I drink.

Luckily the drinks that I dislike are the only ones that affect me.

by Robert on Jan 7, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get them either really.

I might be tired the next day, or feel like eating something healthy, but no headaches or anything.

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My hangovers are probably more related to nicotine poisoning than the alcohol.

Get a few beers under my belt and suddenly I’m a chain smoker.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This kills me too.

Besides, I’d rather blame the smokes then blame the beer.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Same

I don’t ever smoke sober but cigarettes make feeling drunk so much better I can’t resist

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 7, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered what on earth you were sorry for.

I also saw your post and thought, why on earth is ac awake?

That wind was horrific. I walked from South Lake Union to Pike Place and nearly was blown into traffic multiple times. Doesn’t make the hair look pretty, either.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 7, 2009 8:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could get 5 hours on a consistent basis.

It seems (especially lately) that I am getting less and less sleep as I get older.

My norm last year was 4-5 hours, with a maximum of 6.5. In the past 2 months, more like 2-3, max 5, and shorter bursts of like 15 minutes.

All without stress level change, in fact the only change I’ve made is a habit of eating better food.

I did sleep like 6 hours last night, but that was aided by some (many) Excedrin PM, earplugs, and an eye mask.

How much sleep does the average LLer get, I wonder?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is that because you go to bed later than you'd like?

Or because you’re like me and your body just doesn’t want it?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Insomnia

I’ve had it off and on for years.

by coolguyrob on Jan 7, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I usually get between 7-8 hours, but as little as a year ago I could go on 3-4 hours no problem.

Now I feel like I’m in a fog all day, but I actually kind of enjoy it now and then.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get between 7-8 hours most nights

I sleep with earplugs every night because I’m a pretty light sleeper – earplugs have made all the difference in the world in my ability to stay asleep.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord I love earplugs.

And I’m in an apartment, so it’s always bright and we can’t put up decent curtains, so I wear an eye mask too most nights.

Does wonders for my ability to get to sleep in the first place.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A fan in the room also works.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

YES.

I sleep with a fan on in the room no matter the season. I tried one of those alarm clocks with a bunch of white noise options (surf, storm, etc) but none of them were soothing.

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

For some reason I’ve always found that I would rather crank the heat up a little bit and have a fan blowing on me while I sleep than to just leave the heat off.

by Goose on Jan 7, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've used a fan for over 20 years.

I can barely sleep without one.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But

I’m not famous enough yet to sleep with a fan in the room

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Jan 7, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

7-8 hours.

I feel that sleep should be the most important thing to a person, for both mental and physical well-being.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would leave little time for much else, I think.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Food, making money, talking to people, etc....

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't follow?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I worked nights, I would always get my eight hours.

Now it’s more like 6.5 because I still can’t bring myself to go to bed before midnight.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My body prefers working a night shift. I always sleep better when I work nights up here.

My body’s natural 8 hour sleep cycle seems to be 7 am to 3 pm.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 7, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My body prefers working a night shift. I always sleep better when I work nights up here.

My body’s natural 8 hour sleep cycle seems to be 7 am to 3 pm.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 7, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At work I always stay up too late reading or playing video games so if I get five hours I consider it a blessing.

At home I have no schedule so I sleep as long as I want to. That’s why I miss out on so many offtops on my days off; I just sleep in too long to really get into any of the conversations.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 7, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I made the mistake of bringing the Witcher with me and I have been playing it every night after work.

I get off at 6 pm and have to be up at 4 am. I kept playing til past midnight last night. It’s as bad as when I am reading a good book I can’t put down and get only three hours of sleep before I have to get up for a 12 hour shift.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 7, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really like getting 9 hours of sleep. If my body could get what it wanted, that's what it'd be getting.

8 hours is a bad number. 6 is okay.

This also comes from the body who’s temperature is a dyslexic 96.8 degrees. I have to convince every doctor I’ve ever had that I have a fever at 98. It’s annoying.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am so glad someone else has that problem.

They tell me I’m overreacting to a 99.5 fever when I’m actually shivering but yet much warmer than I normally am.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 7, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That seems like a circulation problem.

I wonder what your core temp is, as opposed to measurable extremities?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to do some actual measuring

but it seems to me that my feet are the first thing to get cold at night, and my feet are usually socked and shod when this happens.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

4 to 5 hours

7 if I am feeling really lazy.

by Robert on Jan 7, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It varies now.

I guess the average is about 5 hours.
Last night, basically none. Night before, 6.

I’ve never really needed 8, but I used to get 7 pretty consistently.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, duh!

I’d expect you to be getting about 2-3 hours a night, at most, considering your change in circumstances ;-)

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah; last night was not good.

Overall though, I’m surprised at how non-zombie I am… maybe in a month I’ll just collapse.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to sleep 8 hours a night, but then I had kids.

Now I get 4-5 hours, which is interrupted half way through by a diaper change and feeding.

"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin

by Jed MC on Jan 7, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I try to be asleep by 9-10pm to be awake at 5.

If I get less than 7 hours of sleep I feel it in the afternoon.

by Sec 108 on Jan 7, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get about 6-7 hours on an average night. Anything less than five kills me.

But on the weekends I’ve been known to pull a 12 hour snooze after a night out.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Slept right throught it, but it woke up the kids a couple times each.

Really howling up here. Living on work boats pretty much made me immune to noise, if I wasn’t already. Living in army barracks isn’t exactly quiet either, but work boats. There’s always a diesel or 3 or 5 hammering away someplace, and the sound goes right through the steel. Only sound that ever bugged me are the little tiny tics. Loose piece of metal rolling back and forth on a deck will drive just about anybody buggy.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what gets me about wind.

All the little things bouncing off the roof, and the odd creaks and stuff that happen in the house.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh right! Didn't think about that one. Fixed most of that here when the first snow hit.

Cut some branches off a neighbors tree that were pushing our power/internet lines down. Funny how I’ve never had a problem with a neighbor in my life, buy a house and I’ve alienated two already.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully I have good neighbors,

even though they want to cut down every tree in the neighborhood because they’re scared they’ll fall over in a storm.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The people next door are great, but they are really pissed.

Pine tree had our power line halfway to the ground, so I lopped off a couple branches, plus they were rubbing the side of the house anyway. You’d think I killed somebodys’ kid the way they got on me.
Guy across the street I’ve mentioned before, regarding my name. I think I’ve alluded to him a few times since, he’s actually the smartest person on the planet. You don’t even need to ask him, he’ll probably tell you. I’m not sure how to deal with him except run.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We already figured that one out.

Just beat the shit out of him publicly.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is true.

I say “ignore” is the best policy if possible.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a couple of branches, geez.

I’d gladly remove branches off of my trees if they were affecting the neighbors.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get 5-6 during school

But duting the last break I regularly got 9-10

by Mariner John on Jan 7, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In answer to your question

I started noticing it in my mid-30’s – not so much that my younger self could beat the snot out of me, because even my younger self was a horrible fighter and a complete coward – but I started noticing:

 - Anything less than 7.5 hours of sleep and I can’t function properly
 - Sitting at a desk for more than three hours results in right knee pain, for no apparent reason
 - I can’t recover from drinking nearly as well as I could 15 years ago
 - My diet was crap and I needed to fix it

I’m still working on the last two,

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I fight like a blind 4 year old girl with Parkinson's

A fight between the current me and the 17 year old me would result in nothing but fits of hysterical laughter for all spectators.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Except I did beat up a fifth grader in third grade.

So that has to count for something other than the only trip I’ve ever made to the principal’s office…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little guy (always have been),

but for some reason I’ve always whooped ass when I fight. Maybe it’s the Irish in me.

I HATE, HATE, HATE to fight, but when the shit hits the fan I’ve come out on top most of the time.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Irish too!

But I think the Native American in me is too much of a pacifist…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

22 year old me could take 17 year old me at pretty much anything.

It helps that the last few months I’ve done things like “try to notice my diet” and walked a lot more.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Running... running is not something I considered.

My left knee’s been a little gimpy from all the bowling I’ve done, but as long as I’m not running long distances I could probably run alongside myself. I am getting the knee checked out next week, though, which may be a little too LLLJ, but I’m excited for that.

After all, I gotta be ready for whenever LL bowling night is going to be.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How does bowling mess up your knee?

Is that the leg you plant when you release the ball? Just curious, never thought of that one before.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you're a righty,

your left leg supports all of your weight when you release the ball.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys doing a little upper body twist or something?

For some reason the ‘why’ of this is interesting and it’s just carrolls bowling induced knee twinge. My heads probably just in a weird space from being up and down all night. But for knees I recommend walking lunges to everybody, they keep mine tuned up pretty nicely.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had to get my fingernail removed once from a bowling injury

Incredibly tough on the body (not really but little stuff can get to you)

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jan 7, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The only time I've ever hurt my back was bowling.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With most bowlers,

when you release the ball as a right-hander, all of your weight is on your left leg, and your right leg, is swung behind your left with no weight on it. It’s part of how you impart spin onto the ball.

Even if you aren’t that aggressive, your weight still rests on your left leg when you finish (which is usually bent), and therefore if you bowl a lot, you can end up with quite a bit of wear and tear.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Also, when I was in Vegas I was bowling tournaments of 8 games in one sitting. Some years I’d do more than that, like about 24 games in a 24 hour period.

It used to be, in high school, that the last week of bowling would coincide with the first week of baseball. That week was not a good week to be my knees, because I was an infielder at that point. The amount of bending I was doing to get down on ground balls and to get low to roll the ball down the lane was just too much.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, I was trying to picture the whole motion.

My bowling motion is all retarded so it wasn’t really comparable.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd just have to give 17yo MW a dirty look, and he'd take off running.

So I’d save $20! Yay!

Either that or tell him that Seaweed’s next album is going to suck, and watch him crumple to the floor in tears.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At 17 I was in WAAAAY better shape than I am now at 26.

I took two terms of weight training, and got decently strong.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Twenty years ago I was about 50 pounds lighter.

I could sit on 17yo me and make him cry.

by Sec 108 on Jan 7, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jesus man

if you were 50 pounds lighter 20 years ago you must have been translucent.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am deceptively chubby these days.

But yeah I think I was about 130 when I graduated high school.

by Sec 108 on Jan 7, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean me.

I actually am around 180 these days. A lot of my weight is in my legs from having played soccer for so many years.

by Sec 108 on Jan 7, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just happy I've gained back most of the weight I lost when I was sick.

I dropped 17 pounds in two weeks, and it took me three months to gain most of it back.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I got into numerous fights between 8-20.

After which I didn’t really get in any. I’m fairly sure my younger self could kick my ass now, considering the sorry shape I’m in at the moment.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah! I'm without Seaweed at work! Damn!

You used to love thrifting IN Spanaway, or while listening to “Spanaway”? The former makes a lot of sense, the latter, well, telling my 17yo self about ‘Spanaway’ was going to be my kryptonite.
I’ve never been so disappointed. Rushed out and bought it when it came out on CD and LP, got it home and… hmmm. Maybe you could just reissue “Four”? Or that EP where you covered Fleetwood Mac with Kim from the Fastbacks? More of that!

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course.

Pac Ave thrift stores… good times. They had some good ones down there.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey RC - KEXP is playing Seaweed right now!

“Start With” from Spanaway, but still, it’s Seaweed…. it is 2:43 by my watch.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

34 year old me outweighs 17 year old me

by like 120 lbs. I think I’d be fine.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 7, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So when my Supervisor relieved me this morning, he informed me that since our department was the only one that had not suffered any layoffs,

that at least one maybe even two of us would likely be laid off in the coming weeks. Fun times.

Anybody else potentially under the gun?

by Goose on Jan 7, 2009 9:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Possibly.

I’m an intern architect, and for the moment we’re busy enough, but looking forward three weeks it starts to look a little bleak. I think I’m relatively safe (I’m fairly cheap, I know my shit, etc.), but I’m not counting on anything.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, but my boss is potentially under the gun

If she gets laid off she can’t afford a nanny, so the whole thing falls like a house of cards. Luckily there is no shortage of moms and dads who want to hire me.

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping that I can go FTE at my job in the next couple months.

I’m reasonably safe, but for the next couple years I’d prefer not to be a contractor if I can avoid it – four month unemployed stretches aren’t as fun with a mortgage to pay as they were when I was a renter.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope not.

The newspaper business is miserable right now, but I think I have one of the most secure jobs in the building. But it’s always in the back of my mind.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Always a possibility, I guess

I’m just not thinking about it.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What Marc said.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I better not be.

My department is the only profitable one in the company right now, and there isn’t anyone else who knows even 25% of how to do my job. Unless they close the whole company I should be safe.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

4 people on our old block were laid off in the last six months.

Haven’t brought it up here on purpose, but that’s some scary shit to me right there.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh of course something could pop up.

But really they’d have to drastically alter the way our stores are run in order to eliminate my position. I have a hard time seeing how it would be beneficial, unless, of course, they did indeed decide that being open 24 hours wasn’t worth the cost.

I do worry about my supervisors and clerks, though…

by Omerta on Jan 7, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My work has decided to cut hours ridiculously

4 hours the next two weeks compared to the normal 16. Not that I’m full time or anything.

by Mariner John on Jan 7, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I was selling cars the pressure was definitely there

Now, though, I work for my dad. Unless I screw up and kill somebody then I should be ok. I do, however, realize how lucky I am to be in this position

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jan 7, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fallout 3 is pretty sweet so far

but I wish they had done something so that you could play it as an online RPG. Oh well, it’s still pretty awesome

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2009 9:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I found out that those stupid dogs are the worst thing to come across in the beginning of tha game.

I get a pack of three and get mauled every time.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Playing with friends is fun (a la Left 4 Dead)

but, yeah, playing with random douchebags online is not fun.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or being the irritating asshole.

I used to log in on my brothers Live account just to mess with people.

by Sec 108 on Jan 7, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, Scruffy.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. It's just not fun to me.

And while I wasn’t the biggest Fallout 3 fan, I have to applaud any developer that builds a good single-player game nowadays.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dragon Age.

Out in March.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 7, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like to play alone online.

I know it’s weird. I like to play in a world that exists independently of my gameplay, but I don’t want to interact with other people while I do it.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 7, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I know we talked about books yesterday

but the concept of a Michael Azerrad-penned biography of Bob Mould made my inner fanboy go squeeeee so my question is: What are your favorite rock biographies? For me, the two-volume Elvis bio by Peter Guralnick – Last Train To Memphis, covering his years from birth to the Army) and Careless Love, which is Elvis from Army to fat, drug-riddled corpse, stand above almost all others.

The first volume is all wide-eyed optimism, promise, and excitement, and the second is dark, confused, and sad. You all know the Elvis story, sure, but Guralnick tells the tale with a lot of compassion and detail.

Also, it’s not a biography, but Azerrad’s Our Band Could Be Your Life is essential reading for anybody that likes what the media now calls “independent” music.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Our Band Could Be Your Life is one of my all-time favorite books.

In terms of rock-centric books, I love Get in the Van; I find Henry Rollins to be borderline intolerable, but it’s a fascinating book.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is fascinating, despite the douchebaggery of Rollins

and it makes a good companion piece to the Azerrad, which is in my top 5 of all time also.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually find the Rollins in the book to be almost lovable.

It’s interesting as a character study as much as a book about punk rock.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually bought that in hardback when it came out

even though it was oversized – I didn’t want to wait for the paperback – and then had to lug that thing around while reading it on the bus for a couple weeks. It felt like I was doing the worker-drone equivalent of sleeping in a shed.*

*it felt nothing like this

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

8 hours

I’ve always made a point of getting exactly 8 hours. I can go on less and feel fine but I feel optimal with 8. My old roommate had to have 12 or all bets were off.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I need either 4 or 5 or 11 or 12

Anything in the middle and I feel like shit all day

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 7, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Deep Sleep Cycles

I think it has to do with sleep cycles. If you wake up in the middle of a deep sleep you’ll feel groggy. Yours seems a bit long – I think they usually last an hour or two. For me, there’s a dead spot between 4 and 6 hours. If I get 4 I’m fine but 5 hours is rough. Knowing this, I’ll just have another beer if I have to wake up in 5 hours.

Your favorite meme is dead

by Edanger6 on Jan 7, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They are 90 minutes

In fact, when people talk about getting a good 8 hours sleep, they’re really getting 7.5. They don’t account for the time it takes to fall asleep.

by Gomez on Jan 7, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My sleeping pattern...

Anywhere from 4-6 hours during the week and then I sleep 10-11 on Friday and Saturday nights.

I’m usually at my best from 7 pm to 1 am…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm a total night owl as well.

Other than work, I pretty much am zoned out from when I wake up until at least noon or so.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What Paul said.

I think my 5 hour regular sleep holds for the weekdays; I sometimes try and pack in some extra sleep by sleeping in on Sat/Sun. Of course, that’s out the window now too, but that’s the general plan.

by marc w on Jan 7, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So following up on all the discussions about the success of bands with new lead singers

comes this little tidbit. I’m not really a huge Zeppelin fan, but the concept of Scott Stapp’s replacement filling Robert Plant’s shoes makes me vomit.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just puked in my mouth a little.

Okay, more than a little.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thus

“the concept of Scott Stapp’s replacement filling Robert Plant’s shoes”

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Myles Kennedy.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what he said:

“but the concept of Scott Stapp’s replacement filling Robert Plant’s shoes makes me vomit.”

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just disgusted that a guy that wasn't good enough to be in Creed the first time around

is now good enough to be Robert Plant.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they're all sorta ridiculous at this point

if even the guys in Led Zeppelin don’t see how essential Plant was to the success of that band, they deserve all the scorn they will hopefully get for rolling out there with Myles Kennedy as their singer.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This news is several months old and incredible sad if true.

There’s no point in LZ touring without Robert Plant
There’s no point in LZ touring with Robert Plant if they don’t plan on being a band full time.

by JI on Jan 7, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do, if there's no new music coming out

they are basically touring for money and not to be creative, and that’s why Plant doesn’t want to be involved.

by JI on Jan 7, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

That’s a harsh judgement of the Zep. Seems like a lot of rock might fall under that category

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this this a thousand times this

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can think of a dozen good reasons

but in the end they don’t matter that much.

by JI on Jan 7, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My only issue with Zep is that they stole 90% of their music from old blues artists,

but half of England was doing the same thing back then, so meh.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very True

But Rock and Roll was built off stealing. “Aint Nothing But a Hound Dog” wasn’t original. And while not everybody ripped off blues artists as blatantly as Zep did it still seems like you’d almost have to hate all of rock for theft of music.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So did Elvis and I love Elvis.

I’ve always thought the “zomg they stole the songs” argument was dumb. The songs were mostly standards and folk songs anyway.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Zep is one of my favorite bands of all time.

I just acknowledge the fact that their songs aren’t all originals, and wish that some of the old blues guys had gotten the credit they deserved.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

-Many bloated seemingly unending songs
-Much of their early catalouge sampled, or blatantly ripped off from other artists
-Terrible terrible lyrics
-Since their songs aren’t about anything meaningful, you have to listen to them with your brian firmly in the OFF position, and therefore they don’t have nearly the replay value of other great rock bands.
-They have to be one of the most overrated bands ever, you can’t escape them on rock radio: many annoying rock fans will give Zeppelin credit for doing things that, say, The Who were doing back in 1965. (I know it’s not really their fault but it is a source of resentment).
-Robert Plant’s pants are on so tight in The Song Remains the Same that you can see his dick.

by JI on Jan 7, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you that last one,

but that issue can be solved if you simply listen to the CD instead of watching the live performance.

Also, this gripe applies to 90% of lead singers.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They're pretty much the antithesis of the music I grew up listening to.

My tastes have changed and my horizons have broadened, but I still can’t stand Zeppelin. I think Jimmy Page’s guitar playing has a lot to do with it; fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

In a lot of ways, my opinions about Led Zeppelin are the same as my opinions about the Beatles; I think they were very good at what they did and really important in terms of the evolution of rock. I know that a great many bands I love dearly were heavily influenced by them, and I have tried to like them. But I don’t.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to hate the Beatles

And I grew up listening to the Beatles. Now I can listen to 2 maybe 3 of their albums. Always loved Zep tho.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My hatred for Zeppelin and the Beatles is way different than my hatred for other bands.

If I find out someone likes the Beatles or Zeppelin it in no way alters what I think of their taste in music. If I find out someone likes Nickelback or Joe Satriani or something, that’s a whole different bucket of kittens.

by acblue on Jan 7, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you in my brain?

(Except for the hating the Beatles part)

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of bucket of kittens are we talking about?

Mashed, blended, what? I hear you on the not thinking less of people liking Zep or the Beatles. Kinda like how I am with Elliot Smith. People love him but I’m not such a big fan.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I had buddy’s in high school who adored everything remotely Elliot Smith. I tried to listen and get into him too but couldn’t ever really figure it out. Though on a somewhat unrelated note everytime I see Owen Wilson I hear “Needle in the Hay” because of Royal Tenenbaums

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm right there with you

about Elliot Smith. I like him just fine, but he’s by no means my favorite male singer/songwriter.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

I feel that Elliot Smith completely blows.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't go that far

but I don’t see a lot in his stuff that distinguishes him from most singer/songwriters – it’s just somewhat generic to me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, actually!

I just don’t like it. Never listened to it until my twenties, gave it a shot, it didn’t work out for us.

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's how it got me!

Well that and the fact there was a Zeppelin mural painted on the side of the bathrooms out by the parking lot and baseball fields at my High school

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 7, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't hate Zeppelin

but I consider bands like Deep Purple to be vastly superior.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 7, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since Yahoo LaunchCast is kicking the bucket (okay, not really, they're just being bought up by CBS)

I’m starting to explore other online radio sources. There is KEXP, of course, but sometimes I like a little bit more control over what I listen to. I’m trying out Pandora right now and am pretty underwhelmed with what I’m hearing. Very little variety (and this includes a station for which I set these parameters: Aesop Rock, Built to Spill, Hem, Jerry Goldsmith, Metallica, Pink Floyd, Queens of the Stone Age, Radiohead, Sigur Ros, The Weepies). I’ve heard two Built to Spill songs, a Led Zeppelin song, a Yo La Tengo song, a Radiohead song, a Queen song, and a Beatles song.

Are there better options out there?

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 1:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

And now the Smashing Pumpkins.

C’mon, Pandora, hit me with something daring.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I personally prefer

going to wfmu.org and listening to archived streams of

 - Downtown Soulville
 - The Best Show On WFMU
 - Three Chord Monte
 - The Glen Jones Radio Programme
 - Teenage Wasteland
 - Cherry Blossom Clinic

all of which offer a mix of music that (to me at least) is both familiar and new, and avoids the obvious choices that the Pandoras of the world often leave you with.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wfmu is great

it’s one of the oldest free-form stations in the country and unless I’m mistaken none of the DJ’s gets paid (or they may get a small stipend), and yet a lot of those shows have been going for 10 years or more. And their complete archives are online.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And now Interpol

F this S. Pandora blows.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pandora isnt really set up to play you songs from specific artists, but rather songs with similar styles according to their mDNA

This way you can find new music similar to the stuff you already know, but it’s not in place to jsut be a jukebox for your current favorite

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 7, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think phildo's problem is with the mDNA actually

and that’s my problem as well. My tastes are eclectic enough that “if you are listening to X right now you will want to listen to Y next” type things very rarely work for me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

I found maybe 2-3 new bands and a couple dozen songs that I wasn’t really aware of before, but I can’t listen to Pandora no matter what weird station I program because it just keeps playing the same. damn. songs. over. and. over. again.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know that.

That’s the way LaunchCast was too, but LaunchCast was great at recommending new music I hadn’t heard of. Pandora…not so much.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.

I mostly use it for my hop hop fix, and found 2 of my all time favorite artists this way (people that I would have NEVER heard of otherwise)

For a good time, listen to “Pete Philly and Perquisite” radio. It’s awesome.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 7, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Member question:

There are probably a lot of users on this site probably knew each other outside of LL before joining. Is that accurate?

For example: I’ve known user jimmimoose since 8th grade. We became best friends in 9th grade, and continue to hang out even though both of us are 26. Through jimmimoose, I met johnbai briefly, but didn’t see him again until we played LL Softball #1.

by Phildopip on Jan 7, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not for me, nope.

I didn’t know any of you charmers outside LL until now.

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew nobody on this site before I started hanging out here

and I still only know a few of you personally. Although through this site I did find a cousin I hadn’t seen since I was something like 17 years old, so that was cool.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know any regular posters when I joined up.

I met some of you at LL softball, and some others at LL bowling, but for the most part you’re all just screen names to me.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 7, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's actually Matthew!!!

Oh, wait, that was butthol.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs