OTDOD - 1-6-9 Interesting Reading Edition
by Faux on Jan 6, 2009 8:57 AM PST
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PrintWith the coming of spring (actually the accumulation of too much shit), I've been bit by the cleaning bug. After 500$ made on Craigslist, and half a closet and a good chunk of the garage now clear to fill with more junk, I've turned my attention to the numerous bookshelves in my apartment with an eye on clearing them out to give myself a chance to use my Amazon gift cards to the fullest.
What does this mean for LL? An old-fashioned book discussion, of course. I'm going to use this opportunity to tell you about some of my most read items, list a few books I'm looking forward to reading, and I invite all of you to do the same.
Books I've read repeatedly, and urge you to as well:
1421-The Year China Discovered America
The Omnivore's Dilemma
Capitalism 3.0
Rum: A Social and Sociable History of the Real Spirit of 1776
I won't bore you with my many Fantasy/SciFi recommendations.
Books I'm looking forward to reading:
1434 (Followup to 1421)
Wikinomics
The Wisdom of Crowds
In Defense of Food: An Eater's Manifesto
And finally, a couple interesting links I've found on our sister sites:
How the 40 Man Roster Works (From BCB)
Interesting NYTimes story on Risk Management (Orig Posted on BTB)
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It's been so long since I've made the time to read that I don't even know what I'd like anymore
This saddens me. I used to be on the several books per week program all through school. I even took a speed reading class to make it easier to process info faster so I could get to more books. I need to try out a few and get back into it and try to find something that I would like
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
If history is your thing, I can't rec 1421 or Rum enough.
Otherwise, I’m sure someone could give some good ones based on your interests.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I do love history
I’ll have to check those out. Now that I have normal work hours I can curl down with a good book to unwind every night, which I’ve been missing out on for many years
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Following up with another history recomendation.
Check out Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigly. It’s fascinating reading.
So living in an apartment is really nice
I don’t have a clue as to how to cook however. Does anybody have neat easy recipe ideas that are cookable in small batches beyond the basics like sandwiches
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
Four words - Contact Grill and Steaks
Other than that, chilis, soups, and stir-frys (ies?) are great for one person. And if you make a bunch of soup or chili, it handles well for freezing or refrigeration.
Although this might be more of a question for RC or NOLA.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Corco--let me guess, you are a meat and potatoes, typical midwest food type of guy?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
Sounds like Corco just needs a food processor.
And a Costco bucket of mayo.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
and some stray swine
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
I just like substantial food
As long as it’s filling I’ll eat it
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I'll agree with you on this, but ham salad still sounds pretty nasty.
But then again I don’t like chicken salad or anything like that anyway.
Man do I love midgets.
Ham salad is the only x salad I like
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What exactly is ham salad?
I figured it was just like chicken salad but with ham, or maybe tuna salad but with ham.
But I was telling gf about your obsession with ham salad and she asked me what it is. She’s a trained chef. I figure if ham salad’s a thing she should know about it.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I always assumed it was just like any other "salad".
Man do I love midgets.
I do like Shake and Bake
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I grew up on the stuff
All my dad ever cooked was Shake and Bake and French Toast. Mom got off of work later so we never got any real food unless I took the initiative, but that goes back to the procrastination discussion from yesterday
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Yeah, food is pretty much the one thing I take seriously.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it's in my top 3 of things I take seriously.
I have never had Shake n Bake outside of Ricky Bobby, and I never will.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Shake n Bake is delicious though
I’m having Shake n Bake porkchops for dinner tonight since nobody gave me better recipes before going to the store
I’ll do Jeff’s thing tomorrow
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Shake and Bake porkchops was like 5 times a month at my house growing up.
Soooo good
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Jan 6, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'd recommend Betty Crocker's Slow Cooker cookbook.
Just picked up a slow cooker on sale at Lowe’s, cookbook at Barnes & Noble, got the whole shebang for right at twenty bucks. Really really really wish I had one of these when I was a bachelor. Short and sweet prep times, throw it in the pot, pretty much covers it.
Formerly dpseadvr.
I love my crock pot
I’ve made some amazing things in it. Corned beef and cabbage is one of my specialties with it.
Sauerbraten.
One of the most flavourful things you will ever make in your crock pot.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Yep, done that one too.
Another really easy one is to throw sauerkraut, brats and beer in it and cook on slow until you can’t wait anymore. So good.
But he asked for recipes in small quantities--that's not very good for small quantities.
Freezing can work for some things, though.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
This is exactly why I wish I had it as a bachelor.
Divvy up those extras in ziplocs and there’s my microwave nights.
I think I need 2 of these slow cookers though, the desert stuff is pretty good, but it would be nice to have it all ready at the same time.
Formerly dpseadvr.
Panini! Bread + delicious sandwich meats and cheese + some sort of grill = delicious.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
Get yourself a rice cooker and a george foreman grill
bento (or other sort of grilled chicken over rice, whatever) whenever you want, and the rice cooker will steam veggies as well.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I got a cook book this christmas with quite a few easy recipes
It’s called A man, A can, a plan. It uses mostly canned for for simple recipes and some of the canned goods could be replaced with fresh stuff if you wish. I haven’t tried out any recipes out of it yet but it seems like it might have a lot of good apartment/budget recipes.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
oh I greatly dislike that book
it presupposes that guys can never be trusted to cook anything that requires more than one pot. Books like this are much more useful and produce better food with not that much more effort. This one’s also good because in addition to a bunch of really easy recipes it also contains a list of things to keep in your kitchen so that you can always cook something decent.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I love "one pot" cooking, but I see what you mean.
Man do I love midgets.
A Man, A Can never tries to get guys past "I'm too lazy to cook"
whereas the other ones teach you a bit in a pretty painless way.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Can of chili + can of cheese soup = dip
That kind of thing?
Man do I love midgets.
it's a little past that but that's the general idea
more like “can of spaghetti + can of beans = CHILI!” sort of thing.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Yeah. I kind of figured that out on my own, then moved on.
Man do I love midgets.
Somebody made a book about that kind of stuff and it actually sells?
That sounds like the kind of thing that somebody would make on accident while drunk or something (and yes I know that chili can be made that way, but my point still stands)
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Jan 6, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
What I meant to say was...
Huh, I’ll have to check out those books. I’m a moderately decent cook so a little more effort in the kitchen is no prob. Like I said hadn’t tried any recipes out of " A man…." but I can se what yer sayin’
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
If you're already a moderately decent cook
then you’re really already past “a man, a can”. I don’t know why that book bugs me so much but I think it’s because I hate to be assumed to be stupid or lazy based on my gender.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I get that
And I kinda felt like I was past the recipes when I got the book. But since it was a gift I figured I’d give a couple recipes a go. Plus my living situation is kinda in flux right now so buying canned food for later recipes seemed like not a bad idea.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
"My living situation is kinda in flux"
That doesn’t sound good.
Man do I love midgets.
It's not bad
I recently moved out of my mad house in Seattle to my aunt’s in Spokane to go to school. But I dunno how long I’m gonna stay there before I find my own apt or house. Hence the “in flux” part.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Sounded like you were about to be out in the street eating cold food out of a can.
Man do I love midgets.
I guess it kinda did
Now that I re-read that. Luckily I’m not one of the hobos quite yet
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
A hobo is a dangerous thing to be around here.
Certain members of LL are well known as hobo punchers.
Man do I love midgets.
So I've read
That’s why I clarified that I was not a hobo lest I get punched
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Willie Mays Haze.
Not a hobo.
Man do I love midgets.
Most definitely not
Though I have been called a bum due to my lack of car. But not at all a hobo
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
yeah...
I hope to rectify this situation when get my two tax returns (I never filed for ‘06). I get the feeling that spokane isn’t as bus/pedestrian friendly like seattle is.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Right now you should buy a snowmobile from what I understand.
Man do I love midgets.
Or a taun-taun
but yeah there is a shit-ton of snow over here. They had over 6 feet fall in december. The not so fun part about the snow? It’s supposed to get up past 40 and rain later this week. That could spell flooding and I live not to far the river. “When the levee breaks got no place to stay.”
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Sweet Zepplin reference.
Or whatever blues artist they stole it from. My brother sent me pictures from the L&I office over there, and it’s like walking through a snow cave just to get in the front door.
Man do I love midgets.
Hahaha
So true about Zep.
Funny thing about the snow is some of it has already melted and there is still more than I’ve ever seen in a major city.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Where is kevin_ess? I haven't seen him posting for a few weeks.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Good point.
Must be a busy man.
Man do I love midgets.
That would make sense.
Hope it’s somewhere warm.
Man do I love midgets.
Simple
Sautee together:
-chopped onions
-chopped peppers
-garlic
-chopped or grated potatoes
If desired, add:
-egg
-strips of meat or dollops of sausage
Takes 10-15 minutes, smells great, fills you up, isn’t unhealthy.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 6, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
That sounds delicious with sausage
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Definitely needs meat.
Man do I love midgets.
Sorry, I never realized you had so many talents.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
The real question here is what beer goes best with that.
I’d imagine something heavy and hoppy to match the taste.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Are you good at everything?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Everything sounds good when you haven't eaten since Monday morning.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
If only there were a way to remedy this
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 6, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Way to not take advantage of an opportunity to make yourself look less dumb.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Why the hell would I be fasting? Does this seem like Yom Kippur to you?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
The food bank was snowed in?
Or the “meals on wheels” didn’t show up?
Man do I love midgets.
Im not fasting either, so it's probably not Yom Kippur.
Maybe he is having a colonoscopy this afternoon
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Lots of people fast for lots of different reasons.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
As a person who has been known to overeat in the past,
it may not be called slowing, but it is still just that in many ways.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
1 lb. ground beef.
1 large white onion.
1/3 jar of hot curry powder.
1/4 white flour
1/4 cup of salt (you need a lot of salt for this).
1 cup water
Brown the beef, and the stir in the chopped onions. Cook that until the onions are transparent.
Then add the water. Stir in the flour and the curry powder and cook everything on medium heat (stirring regularly) until it’s all the same colour and most of the water is gone. Then stir in the salt. Make sure you distribute it evenly.
Serve on rice.
Flavourful, hearty, and it has a nice spicy kick to it.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I've never actually measured it.
I just keep adding salt until it tastes right, but it feels like I’m adding a whole shitload of salt.
This is will feed at least two people, though.
If you don’t add enough salt the flavour is really flat. Shallow, even. There’s a thin veneer of flavour and then nothing beneath it. The salt really brings out the depth of flavour both from the curry and the beef.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I think you might have guessed high on the salt measurement though.
Man do I love midgets.
As do I.
I’m picturing myself adding a measured 1/4 cup of salt to the recipe and it just seems like way, way too much.
Maybe Llewdor is a verrrrry heavy smoker
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Based on what I know about Llewdor (and that is admittedly very little) this seems highly unlikely.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
then maybe just angling for hypertension?
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
might try measuring the curry powder before offering that amount.
Jars vary in size.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Pan fried noodles
Obtain a package of rice noodles or, failing that if you’re living in the boonies, egg noodles, and cook according to directions.
Get a wok or frying pan really hot. Add seseme, peanut or, if you must, veg oil. Not olive. When the oil is hot, throw in about a pound of chicken breast, cut into bite sized pieces, and cook about 3-5 minutes depending how hot you got your pan. Push the chicken to the side, throw in a couple of cloves of garlic, chopped up, and some chili pepper flakes. Add broccoli if you would like. Stir a couple minutes, then throw in the noodles. Stir for about two minutes, then add two tablespoons of soy sauce. Stir one minute, squeeze a lime over, and dig in.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
It is and now I'm contemplating dinner.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
I'm contemplating THAT for dinner.
I’d need to go get rice noodles though, or settle for egg noodles. Could I use ramen noodles instead?
Man do I love midgets.
I think using deep fried noodles would complicate matters.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Even if I boiled them first?
Man do I love midgets.
Would probably work in a pinch, but it would end up being glorified ramen.
Not that there’s anything wrong with glorified ramen.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
I just had bacon and eggs for dinner.
Which was good but after reading your idea I feel totally let down.
I'm excited
because I just signed up for organic vegetable delivery. Every Monday, a box of “between 14-16” delicious local vegetables will appear on our doorstep. This is awesome.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
One the great things about living in Europe is all of the fresh fruit and veggie markets all over the place.
Though if they would bring them right to my door for my that would be most cool as well!
I get that too. It's pretty fun.
I get one vegetable a week that I have never cooked with before, so I can figure out what to do with it. (I’m almost out of vegetables I have never cooked with)
The cool thing with this is that we don't get to choose
they just send us what’s been harvested that week, which will force some menu flexibility.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well, we do get to choose...
OrganicsToGo/Spud is fantastic. They’re actually up in Seattle (Spud) and bought out our local delivery company (OrganicsToGo), and we just re-signed up now that we’re more established in the new house.
This signature space for rent.
This is a terrific way to learn new techniques. And fresh fresh is always nice
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Tonight: tofu!
Obtain a block of tofu. Open, drain, put on a plate, cover with a paper town, and place something heavy on it like a book. Let that squeeze the water out for about 30 minutes.
Marinate the tofu in stuff: garlic, ginger, green onion, a little soy, some Sambal or other Chili paste/sauce, and a little sesame oil.
Chop up some red bell pepper, bamboo shoots, chinese broccoli, and on choy.
Get a wok freaking with some veggie oil. Drop in the tofu for about 2-4 minutes then stop and drain the oil. Throw the veggies in, add some hoisin+chili garlic+soy, or buy a bottle of some sauce if you are lazy. Eat it over rice.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
paper towel. If you have a paper town, ravage it with a paper godzilla.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Never could get into the tofu stuff.
It’s just filler to me. Add chicken, and now you’re talking.
Man do I love midgets.
Tofu prepared right is as good as meat.
I’m not a vegetarian, but it is actually a nice change of pace. To make it more interesting, dredge the tofu cubes in flour and corn starch, then fry it.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
that seems to negate almost all the benefits of tofu though
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
The trick is to fry it in beef lard.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Lard is from pigs.
If it’s from cows it’s called tallow.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Learn something new every day.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I think viewing it as a substitue for meat is where things go wrong.
I don’t get a craving for beef that can be satisfied by tofu, but I don’t get cravings for tofu that can be satisfied by beef either.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
correct. I use it as another protein source to cook with and not instead of meat.
A good Mapo Tofu is one of my favorite foods period.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Yes. Tofu, moisture squeezed out, with flour, fried and then dipped in tsuyu.
Agedashi tofu – delicious.
I actually just had some agedashi last weekend. Very tasty stuff
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
I never thought about squeezing out the excess water. I use tofu in stir frys all the time, but have never done it this way.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
It entirely changes the texture of the finished product.
extra firm tofu + pressing out the water is a nice thing. Otherwise it remains closer to thick jello
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
They sell tofu at most places now that is almost entirely devoid of moisture.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
It’s generally baked, but it does the job quite well.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Really? Even the extra-firm stuff tastes different?
I’ll try that.
Well the taste difference is a side effect of removing moisture.
The more moisture you get out initially, the more effective the marination.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
That sounds absolutely delicious
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
It's been decided, this is going to be dinner tomorrow.
Thanks NOLA!
Man do I love midgets.
Keep experimenting
Add a bit of fish sauce one time. Or rice wine vinegar and sugar or mirin. Or ginger. everything’s better with ginger.
Ginger freezes well, by the way.
Once I try it straight up, then I'll start experimenting.
Man do I love midgets.
I like good food
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I'm so good at cooking I forgot to use a potholder
My left hand hurts
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Two books everyone should read:
World War Z by Max Brooks. Arguably the best zombie book ever written. The faux non-fiction style is a unique approach and really leads to an immersive experience that you will never forget.
Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman. This is my favorite novel of all time. I absolutely devoured it in a single sitting because I literally could not put it down. While it is a pseudo sequel to his novel American Gods, you do not need to read the first one to enjoy Anansi Boys.
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I liked American Gods better, to tell the truth.
Mr. Wednesday is easily one of my favorite characters in any book I’ve read.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I like it when my books jump around.
Not in a Robert Jordan sort of way with going from character to character, but in a Piers Anthony plot change way.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
They are both great, but for different reasons.
I just prefer Gaiman’s more whimsical stories to the more dramatic ones.
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Which reminds me, Firefly by Piers Anthony.
I love this book. It’s such a disturbing read, in a Oldboy sort of way, but ultimately a great story with well drawn out characters and an awesome ending.
Warning, not safe for the squeamish types, it contains a lot of bizarre sexual stuff that’s not everyone would want to read.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
That feeling in your stomach while watching the credits roll on Oldboy is something you never forget.
My only response to that film was to let out an audible whimpering “Ugh.” when it was over.
Fear the NPE
Oh my God, I used to read everything and anything by Piers Anthony when I was a kid.
I swear I had an entire bookcase full of his stuff.
Man do I love midgets.
I think Piers Anthony holds the record for most puns.
27 books and counting in the Xanth series.
"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin
That thing is still going?
Crazy.
Man do I love midgets.
I was talking with one of the writers at BioWare and he said
“I find it hard to believe I ever liked Piers Anthony.”
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
This isn't really like anything else Piers Anthony.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
World War Z the movie is due in 2010
with Marc Forster (Monster’s Ball, Finding Neverland, Quantum of Solace) directing.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
I loved World War Z
That was one of those books that just took me over and I finished it in a couple days. I also enjoyed The Zombie Survival Guide quite a bit. It wasn’t near as immersive as WWZ. But as someone who has for years looked a structures and wondered what it would take to zombie-proof them this book was right up my alley.
Another good not-your-standard horror book is The Undead and Philosophy. It examines what exactly scares us about vampires, zombies, etc. I also enjoy their take on whether or not it’s murder to kill a vampire.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I mentioned this in yesterday's thread
but I’m currently reading Running the Table: The Legend of Kid Delicious, the Last Great American Pool Hustler. I don’t enjoy playing or watching billiards particularly, but the way this book is written, and Kid Delicious’ engaging personality makes it VERY enjoyable.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 9:07 AM PST reply actions
I'm just glad someone reads the tags still besides me.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Girls reading IS hot.
I’m just glad I’m not the only one who apparently gets more turned on by the library scene than the bar scene.
Hot girls go to libraries?
Where have I been all my life?
I’m off to the library
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I think you're mixing cause and effect.
Hot girls don’t necessarily read, but the act of reading makes a girl hot.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
The act of reading does make a girl hot
I just never drew the connection that fiinding those girls involved going to the library and not getting plastered and running around being crazy
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Maybe you should get plastered and run to the library
by seattlebruin on Jan 6, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good idea
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Book stores are also a great place to find college women.
Wander the aisles and ask every check there for recommendations. It’s the perfect conversation starter.
It also makes for cheap dates at coffee shops and bookstores.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I do like cheap
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Warning! You may have to read books and somewhat know what you are talking about.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I like stupid girls better then that I can wow with my made up knowledge of everything
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It's always worked in the past
dumb girls think I’m really incredibly smart
Smart ones think I’m an idiot
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It will have a much higher audience than MatthewCam
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
The audience for Matthewcam is probably much more devoted.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I was thinking Brian, who were you thinking of?
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I hope so
It’s a boring act
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Not sure how that became check.
But it was chick.
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There are libraries in Wyoming?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Got a thing for Meg White?
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A rock chick in general is granted +5 hotness
I used to have a major thing for Meg White and Brodie Dahl a fear years ago. And I currently find Hailey Williams of Paramore to be rather cute.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Pistol Pete. (biography)
Must-read. It’s fantastic.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions
Fuck Utah for keeping the name Jazz.
So glad Pistol’s jersey still hangs in the rafters in New Orleans where it belongs.
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Yeah. The guy was such a showman. Hook shots from 20 feet out.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
I always thought his life was a pretty sad story.
Man do I love midgets.
Anything by John Feinstein
I particularly enjoyed The Last Amateurs
I haven't read The Omnivore's Dilemma, but I read In Defense of Food.
I liked it a lot. Made me want to move into the mountains and never go to a grocery store again. A friend of mine helped Pollan with fact-checking and other stuff when she was a grad student at Cal.
Music Recs:
So Graham mentioning Emily Haines in yesterday’s OT led me to check her out and discovered her band Metric which I absolutely love. Amazing the things you can discover here. So what I propose is this: Everyone mention one band they love that may be a little obscure and you think people need to hear more of. I’ll start it off.
Better Than Ezra. They had a few radio hits in the early 90’s but never really hit it off mainstream. Kevin Griffin is a great lyricist and songwriter who writes music for others as a day job so he can keep making BTE records despite not selling in large amounts. He is also one hell of a showman if you are ever fortunate enough to see them live.
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Make sure you follow The Wisdom of Crowds with
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Charles MacKay. It was first published in 1841, and it isn’t entirely historically accurate, but there’s still an important message in there.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
On the list.
I keep reading the Malcom Gladwell type books, waiting for something to hit me from them. So I’m looking for a change of pace.
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Or I should say, on the list now.
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In Defense of Food is not as good as Omnivore's Dilemma, but it makes a quality followup.
The Rum book looks like one I need to put on my “to-read” list.
The books cluttering my nightstand are:
The Ball is Round: A Global History of Soccer
1491: New Revelations of The Americas Before Columbus
Gumbo Tales: Finding My Place at the New Orleans Table
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 9:26 AM PST reply actions
1491's on my longer list, but I loved 1421 so much that I want to get 1434 done as soon as I can get my hands on it.
Also in that vein is Island of Seven Cities, which I’m looking forward to as well.
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In all seriousness though, if you can make proper New Orleans cuisine...
that’s knowledge worth having.
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I make incredible gumbo and tasty red beans and rice.
I don’t do jambalaya because it’s rare that I like it.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Andouille and I are good friends in the red beans and rice department.
I need to pick up the Cajun cooking. My repertoire is sorely lacking in that department
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It defintely helps to have andouille sausage, and a ham hock is useful as well.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
do you have a favorite red beans and rice recipe?
it happens to be my dad’s favorite, so next time I’m home I could make a lovely one.
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A ham hock is not "useful" to make good red beans and rice
it is required to make good red beans and rice.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I really haven't done any Holy Trinity cooking. I guess it's time to change that.
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My mother has decided that our family will live on local products, after she read the Omnivore's Dilemma.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 6, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
I'd list all of my current reads
but I feel they all fall under the ZOMG category.
Nevertheless it’s nice to see what everyone else is looking at. Good call for a OFTOP, Faux.
I read a bunch of those as well.
I just left them off the list for obvious reasons.
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Is that a year in pictures?
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I was the same, but I mainly spent my time flipping through until I found an article about some disaster or other.
The Chronicle of Flight is the same sort of book, but concentrating on aviation for airplane lovers. I recommend that as well.
Reading 2666 right now.
Made every respectable top 10 books of 08 list, and the blurbs certainly are enticing.
I’m >100 pages in, and I have to say that if it weren’t for the high praise I’d have put it down by now. There is a tremendous amount of detail that so far seems to be included solely for the sheer joy of writing it down. And while I’m all for excessive description, Bolano is no Nabokov and his style is better suited for terser storytelling. Also, it’s hardly a compelling storyline (so far there are four career literary critics obsessed with a fictional German writer going to conferences and trying to sleep with one another. There, I just summarized about 80 pages). I’m giving it until about page 300 before I give up on it.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions
So I take it the beginning is worse than Savage Detectives?
Because that was probably one of the slowest books I’ve ever tried to read.
(PDB style disclaimer – I’m not into mainstream fiction for the most part, and crime stuff especially)
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I have Savage Detectives on stand by
should I make a gift of it to someone I don’t much like instead?
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
I would get a few pages in.
I have odd tastes in books that do not match well with mainstream fiction readers. It’s really a tossup whether other people will like what I do. If you like his other stuff (or even have read any of it) go for it.
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Also for anyone who is into heroic epics
which I was and am, there’s an incredible new translation of the Iliad, or ‘retelling’ as he calls it by a guy called Christopher Logue. Just incredible, totally different from anything else out there yet arguably more true to the original than any of modern English translation (Pope included). I’ll be happy to provide some quotes or more info if anyone’s interested, but I’ll have to go home to get my copy.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 9:47 AM PST reply actions
Yeah I was going to say...
have you noticed much of a difference so far between this telling and, say, a version that most of us are familiar with?
To be fair
he did say “more true to the original” not “more original”. I don’t really think the Iliad needed to be retold, though.
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Point still stands.
I find it hard to believe that with all the ancient greek scholars in the world that have translated the Iliad from primary source material, there would suddenly be a radically different version of the story that’s “more true to the original” unless a new, much older scroll was discovered.
Reading the blurbs about it at amazon
it doesn’t seem like it’s “radically different”, but more of a fresh/updated retelling, which as you say doesn’t necessarily mean it’s more true to the original – it’s just a different retelling of the familiar story, which sounds like it’s one of the more accessible ones out there. My fear with these things is that it’d be like making Ulysses into a 35-page comic book, though – you could do it, but why?
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Making the Iliad more accessible removes the point of reading the Iliad.
You might as well just read the cliff notes.
The point of reading the Iliad is certainly not its inaccessibility
I think I agree with where you were going, but I’m not sure….
My point being, the Iliad is a poem. It's written in a meter. The language, allusions, phrasing, etc are an integral part of it.
I am not saying the point of it is obtuseness for obtuseness’ sake, but that hearing a version described as “more accessible” conjures up an image to me of someone writing a more accessible version of The Waste Land, “The world sucks”
It's not more accessible than, say Fitzgerald or Lattimore
maybe a bit less so. That was not the point of his exercise.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Not a comic book at all
it’s a translation of sorts that uses modern poetic forms and techniques to attempt to recreate for the modern ear what the greeks might have heard 2500 years ago. Logue felt unconstrained by the original Greek because modern English, and more importantly the modern english reader are so completely different from the ancient greeks. Trying to fit within the confines of meter and rhetorical structures makes it stiff. Going for blank verse or prose loses the sense of poetry. More to the point, descriptors like ‘the wine-dark sea’ are cliches in modern english and have none of the potency they once held.
I’ve read four versions of the Iliad in two languages, and have a great fondness for it. I abhor any attempts at abridgment or digests. I think these books are pretty great.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
So it's a modern update of it then.
That’s fine. I just would not have used the phrasing “more true to the original” because as a former classics scholar, true means original language.
Eh
What do you think of the Seamus Heaney translation of Beowulf?
It’s not the original language, but the use of alliteration and kennings mean it’s, er, more true to the original. Yes?
I know nothing about these Iliad translations, but trying to give a sense of the poetry of the original using either the original meter or some sort of modern analog sounds interesting. Maybe it’s not the same meter, and maybe it’s changing some of the descriptive kenning-like language, I don’t know, but that seems like it could fall under the umbrella of ‘truer to the original.’ The baseline is important here, and many, many current translations just turn it into an adventure yarn. Which is cool and everything, but most people don’t know it’s a poem.
I don't have a problem with tackling the story this way, don't get me wrong.
I’m saying the truer to original clearly means something different to me.
"Truer than what?" is still an important consideration.
I think we agree on pretty much everything in this arena, so, y’know, don’t go changing.
This is what I was getting at
poetry is a tricky thing to translate – so much of it is in the subtlety of cultural contexts and wordplay. Borges has an essay (well, a transcribed lecture) on translating poetry where he argues that original and intended meaning can be almost irrelevant in a translation because it takes on a life of it’s own. One of his examples is the name ‘Don Quixote de la Mancha’, which in English evokes medieval castles and old-world chivalry, while in Cervantes’ Spain would have evoked something like Don Quixote of Kitsap County.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Heaney's Beowulf was great
have you read Merwin’s Green Knight? Also fantastic, and unlike Beowulf you can kind of make out the original (it’s a bilingual edition) since Middle English, especially the author’s dialect, is pretty easy to make out.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I like the green knight a lot; haven't read it in translation
I loved the Gawain poet when I was a wanna-be medievalist sort of person. Chaucer’s still my homeboy, though I look back and find it hilarious that I wanted to be a medievalist. I think that only lasted like a month, but… HA!
Yep
Pearl’s great. I first found those books as a kid reading Tolkien and have loved them since.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on what you think a translation should do.
If you accept, as I believe one must, that a translation of any poetic work is necessarily a stand-alone work of art (much like an adaptation of a book to the screen – literal faithfulness is pretty much out of the question) then being faithful to the wording or even structure of the original work can become cumbersome and even obstructive, depending on the language being translated from and into.
I’ve spent a lot of time with different translations of the Iliad, and while I’ve never read it in Greek I’ve tackled the Aeneid in Latin, and have an appreciation for what you call being ‘true to the original’ as well. The feeling of reading these translations however is entirely different than any other. Made my spine tingle and I stayed up all night to finish them.
The only caveat is you do have to have an open mind and at least a familiarity with and some appreciation for guys like Eliot, Pound, and Cummings (especially Cummings).
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
only feeling should have been italicized
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Read pretty nicely the way it is.
I don’t know what you do for a living, but your abilities to break down a book in a recommendation are pretty frickin’ spiffy. This was most excellent, thanks.
Formerly dpseadvr.
He used secondary sources
(ie translations) and consulted Homer scholars for context, intended meaning and so forth. It’s not the story that’s different, it’s the way it’s told, and the telling is more important than the story.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
On the retelling the Illiad front, I can not recommend David Gemmell's Troy trilogy enough.
It’s kind of hard for me to explain the way the subject is tackled, but it’s written so you could see where storytellers would get the legend and folklore from, but without much of the legend itself. It’s just an intriguing series.
Acctually, I’ve just got to recommend David Gemmell in general. If you like heroic fantasy, he’s a guy I feel like you’ve got to check out.
Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!
I just finished reading
Traffic: Why We Drive The Way We Do (And What It Says About Us). I was expecting it to be dry and academic, but it was actually pretty interesting. I also just finished reading Born Standing Up, Steve Martin’s autobiography of his life up through his stand-up days. I really think Steve Martin has become sort of a pretentious twat, but this was a really interesting book – he’s a good writer.
Next in my queue is Revolutionary Road, because I’m forcing myself to read more fiction in 2009.
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You picked an excellent place to start.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
based on your recommendation actually
I have a bunch more fiction books in the queue that I can’t recall at the moment, but I started Revolutionary Road last night. So far so good.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
To all you Fanatsy/SciFi people out there, I need to find a a couple books I used to have.
1 – The book revolves around a man that travels to the island of Krakatoa in the early 1800s from England, right before it explodes. He somehow ends up traveling through time and to alternate histories, ending with him dropping a atom bomb on a city from a balloon while in the Chinese resistance.
2 – Post-apocalyptic people are back to the basics of society after society is destroyed. A party goes out from a town in search of something, travels to the Northeast, through cities where they are confronted by helpful holograms and all the remaining technology from the world before, and end up unsealing a cave of books that starts flooding when high tide comes in, and they barely escape.
Damn, I’m horrible at remembering books.
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Aha!
Eternity Road is the second one, now I just need the first. (I’m looking for books that I read long ago, and seeing if I still like them)
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I just read McCarthy's 'The Road', as far as Sci-Fi post apocalyptico stuff.
Very dark, very interesting. Apparently they are adapting it to a movie, which will be either very untrue to the book or very disturbing to see visually.
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The movie is finished.
It was supposed to be released in November, then they pushed it back to December, then “sometime in 2009” so it could come out during a less crowded release schedule.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
If they stay true to the book at all... nightmares for everyone who sees it
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I am greatly looking forward to this film
the book is amazing.
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250ish pages
I have no idea what that translates into as far as kb goes. Never read an e-book.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
funny you mention "The Road"
My friend gave that to me for Christmas and I have yet to read it. But as I sit here in the student union building I cant help but wish I had put it in my back pack today. Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
obligatory Portland-person mention of Powell's
or in your case, Powells.com – they have a huge fantasy/sci-fi section (well, they have a huge everything section) but they also have a service online that lets you know when they get a specific book if they don’t actually have it in stock.
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I love Powells,
and in fact I asked a bunch of workers there about that first book when I visited Portland last.
The problem isn’t finding the books, it’s remembering the name…. (I must be getting old)
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send them an email with the description above
and they will probably find someone that works there who knows the title.
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There's a book I loved as a teenager whose title I can't remember.
It’s driven me crazy for years. Even worse, I can barely remember what it’s about now. I used to describe it to people, but the details got fuzzy over the years. Ah well.
It's a little bit like A Wrinkle In Time
In that there are kids, stars and being separated from their … family, I think. Or maybe it was one kid that accidentally found a portal to another world. That’s all I remember, other than there being a big hill and alot of stars. Pretty specific, huh?
Anything by Harlan Coben is worth reading.
If you’re interested in thrillers at all, he’s the guy to go to. His books begin telling various, seemingly unrelated stories and by the end it’s all intertwined and you just have to say wow.
The new Klosterman is great.
It’s his first try at fiction , and he definitely has a future in it.
I was kinda hit and miss on it to be honest
although I did not expect the ending at all. What I liked about it was that, as a work of fiction, it definitely avoided the “I’m Chuck Klosterman and I’m cooler than most of you will ever be but I’m writing as though I’m not” strain that’s crept into a lot of his non-fiction recently.
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I agree on your second point.
You can still definitely tell that it’s him, but it does a good job avoiding the pretentiousness of some of his other stuff. Going forward I would be way more excited for fiction from him than non-fiction.
I'm definitely curious to see what he does next.
I hope he writes something a bit more out of his comfort zone – even though this was fiction, there was a strong streak of “Here’s where I’m from, I know these people and these are their pop culture references” going through it. It did seem like he was trying to stretch himself a bit with some of the characters, though, and I hope that continues.
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One of these days, when he least expects it, I'm going to wind up and kick Chuck Klosterman square in the babymaker.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
He deserves it.
I dislike Chuck Klosterman (though his review of Chinese Democracy was quite funny).
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
He's one of my least favorite people on the planet.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
May I ask why?
I’ve never actually sat down to read any of his books because at this point it’s basically impossible to come to it without this whole meta-Klosterman shit: Klosterman as the worst writer alive, Klosterman as an incisive cultural critic, Klosterman as guy-who-got-rich-by-repeating-ads-we-all-saw-when-we-were-young, etc.
I’m just shocked that anyone can inspire this much energy, both positive and negative.
There are many reasons, and some of them might be somewhat irrational, but in a nutshell:
He stubbornly refuses to acknowledge that his experiences growing up in a podunk town in the upper midwest were not shared by everyone of his generation. In his defense his earlier writings seem to come from more of a “not a lot of people are writing from a point of view that mirrors my own, so this is an alternate take on things” but it’s sort of devolved to him insisting that all cultural journalists are making shit up. It’s gone from “I listened to bad metal as a kid and I still don’t quite understand what was so great about Nirvana” to “no one listened to underground music in the 80s and no one really likes any of these bands; they just want to seem cool.”
In general I’m really sensitive to the whole “anti-hipster” movement, because it assumes that people’s motivations for dressing a certain way/hanging out at certain places/listening to certain music/watching certain movies are purely for the sake of appearances, and I think that Chuck Klosterman is a big reason people feel this way.
I could go on and on about why he sucks, but those are the main reasons; also, he slagged Sarah Dougher and Evergreen in print and the things he said were untruthful and needlessly hurtful. I think that’s what made me go from thinking he sucked to actively hating him.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
"In general I’m really sensitive to the whole "anti-hipster" movement"
Again, I know nothing, but I thought many hated him because they saw him as nothing but a professional hipster, right down to the clothes/music/movies he likes. He’s anti-hipster?
irony!
I think hipster means "people that are into things I find pretentious/inaccessible" to most people.
Klosterman is a pop-culture junkie/apologist, and he pretty much labels anyone whose tastes fall outside of pop-culture (and I’m using a broad-ish definition of pop-culture here) as a pretentious hipster.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
This is the crux of MY problem with Klosterman
he dresses like a hipster, he hangs out in Williamsburg with all the other hipsters, and he proudly declaims that Van Halen is awesome and that hipsters are stupid. It’s incredibly condescending and annoying for him to try to tell me/us/whoever why we shouldn’t be one way and then be that way.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Right, this is a better way of putting it.
He clearly wants people to think he’s hip, so he uses all sorts of BS, pseudo-intellectual justifications for liking hair metal and Rambo movies and hating avant-garde music and film. I really don’t care if you think Appetite for Destruction is a good record; I do too, no need to justify it. Just don’t try and convince me it’s artistically superior to Pink Flag.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Hipster hate, or any strong feeling about hipsters
is the surest sign of hipsterhood. I can’t wait for that word to leave the national lexicon.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
No seriously, I have no idea what a hipster is.
Probably comes from living overseas for the majority of the last 15 years. The cool guy thing is just a nickname from ages past.
not worth looking up
with luck by the time you get back to the states no one will have to know this anymore.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
I recently read
Chuck Klosterman’s IV and had three distinct levels of like for it.
His usual essays on pop culture are what I enjoyed the most, by far.
His interviews with Britney Spears, Jeff Tweedy and Bono were alright.
But his attempt at fiction that takes up the latter part of tht book did not interest me in the least.
I dunno if I’d be all that interested in reading his futuristic fiction.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
well, it's not futuristic
it’s set in some sort of nebulous current-day Land That Time Forgot (North Dakota). It’s worth a read, if you can find it used.
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I totally miss read that
After reading about “The Road” I thought you said the book has some future in it, like it was set in a near future or something. I see what you mean now, though.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I think it is maybe late 80's, actually
I just couldn’t remember exactly when off the top of my head.
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Best book I read last year
was “The Name of the Wind.”
No; the wind was inherited
and the new owner’s still deciding on a name.
And here I thought it only whispered.
Man do I love midgets.
Are there any other 30ish year old dudes around here who watch Gossip Girl religiously, or am the only one?
Fear the NPE
Just you man.
Hand over your man card.
Man do I love midgets.
If it were possible to renounce one's gender without resorting to invasive surgery
I would have done it years ago.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I can almost see you watching Gossip Girl.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I don't watch anything on TV except for cartoons, sports and cooking shows.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Tell that to my database software.
The gender field only has three possible options – Male, Female, and Unknown. And I can’t edit that.
I can edit other drop-down menus, but not that one.
I don’t even want to track gender. I want to track industry, and I wanted to co-opt the gender field for that, but I can’t because it’s not an editable drop-down.
It’s annoying.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Proprietary?
Because that’s odd.
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I'll stick to Grey's Anatomy, thanks
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
On Grey's Anatomy approximately 3465 people die every episode
That’s somewhat medical. I swear I don’t know how that hospital stays in business.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
After thewyrm's Gossip Girl and Paramore admissions
I might as well recommend the Twilight saga as being horrific but addicting and I loved them
The all-caps were unnecessary and for that I apologize.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
It's not a verb at all.
Past tense is still an adjective, just as present tense is.
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Unless the addictive agent is the subject performing the action.
Heroin addicted me. Pay not be proper English but it works as a verb.
Fear the NPE
I would consider that to be worse than "addicting" ever could be.
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That's kind of what I'm getting at
If addicting is incorrect that leads me to believe that addicted is just as wrong. One just probably say “I have an addiction to punching hobos” as opposed to “I’m addicted to punching hobos.”
I had to look where to put that "should".
My first reaction was to put it in “I should have an addiction to punching hobos”
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The am in "I'm" would be the verb in that sentence.
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And the addicted would still be an adjective.
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The 'am' is the key there.
‘Am addicted’ is fine.
by Graham MacAree on Jan 6, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
To explain further.
I might as well recommend the Twilight saga as being horrific but addicting
Both horrific and addicting are adjectives in this sentence. Addictive would be a replacement adjective for that.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
From this page,
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/addicting
It looks like a the transitive verb part was for “Addict”, and addicting is just a redirect to that. Look at the pronunciation, and it looks like that whole entry is for addict.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Wow I just got out my dictionary, you went all high-tech on me.
I thought you were saying that “addict” itself was not a verb which made me unsure sure about it myself so I looked it up. By the way, I’m in aggreeance with the addictive vs. addicting usage.
No, we're good.
Addict = verb/noun (or transitive if you want to get fancy)
Addicted/ive = adj.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Which as a career linguist it is kind of embarassing that I know
Foreign language grammar better than English.
I have been addicted to drugs is correct
I find drugs addicting is not.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Your tastes in everything are now suspect.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I don't know, I haven't seen your book list here.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
This used to be a standard OFFTOP subplot
“someone questions sb’s taste in something”
I'm old school OT.
Check the tags, yo.
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The fourth book is good and almost makes reading the first three worth your time.
It is weird. The books are terrible, and in my brain I know this. Yet, I literally could not put the books down. I read them one after the other like a mad man.
Fear the NPE
Really?
I thought Book 4 was a huge letdown
Maybe it was like Robin Williams trying not to be zany?
Some people bought it and found it to be his best stuff, while others liked the trainwreck hilarity of his past work and found the new him boring and pointless?
(Having never read these books, it’s my standard answer for disputes like this)
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
It was the best written, but I was sorely disappointed by the plot
if that makes sense.
This is my opinion as well
I felt the plot of the fourth book was contrary to what made the overall storyline so compelling.
I previously posted as "Man From Nantucket"
by mem on Jan 6, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Why is likeing Paramore something to be ashamed of?
They are a decent band and Hayley has an excellent voice and charming personality.
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The inventor of the Hawaiian shirt died.
Boo-hoo.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 12:53 PM PST reply actions
He will be mourned by hordes of gaudily dressed choads
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 6, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Dude, Hawaiian shirts rock.
Man do I love midgets.
I'm glad I got this before he died, then.
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Obviously.
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Double score for me, I got two Hawaiian shirts for x-mas!
Woohoo!!!
Man do I love midgets.
I saw that this morning
too bad indeed.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
So watching Bring It On for the 1,000th time
I don’t understand how anyone could watch the opening song and dance sequence and think it’s anything but satire.
Sadly enough Bring It On: All or Nothing is not quite as good.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Bring It On: In It To Win It wasn't too hot either.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I do not believe I've seen that one.
Fogel?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I have to have movies on 40+ hours a week.
I watch some crap on occasion.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Who doesn't enjoy the occasional spoonerism?
That said: If your last name is Fernandez, name your kid Helix and teach him to pitch.
Greatest 1/2 punch ever.
Felix Hernandez and Helix Fernandez.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
I think I'll suggest that to my local Scoop of Boy Trouts.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
You're a real gorny huy, aren't you...
Is there a scex sandal brewing here???
This signature space for rent.
No, and I apologize for the mini-hijack here, but did you ever get those bose companion 3 speakers you mentioned a while back?
Good? Worth the price?
Wait, how does multi channel surround sound work on headphones?
This is probably a stupid question, but this is the only subject left in the world that I’m not and expert on, I swear.
Formerly dpseadvr.
Congratulations Drew Brees on being named Offensive Player of the Year!
You should have been the league MVP this season but none of the voters seem to understand what that award means.
Fear the NPE
Really?
Rivers? LT? A Peterson?
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For what?
Frankly the fact that 26 people didn’t vote Brees the OPOTY is absolutely ridiculous. They should have their voting privileges revoked because no one else was even particularly close.
Fear the NPE
I was really hoping he'd break Marino's record.
That last pass that flew incomplete sucked.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
That would have made me happy as well.
I never liked Marino for some reason, even though he was a great QB.
Man do I love midgets.
With all the talk about food and some chatter about seasonal produce, I wonder--
Has anyone here been to the U-District farmer’s market recently?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions
I can't imagine it's worth going to the U-District.
Ballard Farmer’s Market is pretty great.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Does hipsterism apply to geographic locations?
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Anyone know if there is a farmer's market in Everett?
Man do I love midgets.
Down by Lombardi's,
I know where that is. I should have known it would be down on the waterfront somewhere.
Man do I love midgets.
If the Lobardi's in Everett is as good as the one in Ballard
that would make an excellent Sunday.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
I've only eaten there once (at a wake of all things),
but the food was really good. I haven’t been back to just have a meal.
Man do I love midgets.
They sometimes have white chocolate and hazlenut ravioli on the menu and it's amazing.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds interesting....
Man do I love midgets.
It's obscenely delicious and more than a little decadent.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Pasta with chocolate...
Would either be great, or horrific.
Man do I love midgets.
Indeed, sometimes things that sound great together don't end up that way.
Having eaten at Lombardi’s before though I’d be wiling to give acblue the benefit of the doubt here.
I took my Mom to Lombardi's in Ballard for her birthday one year.
Halfway through the meal their sewer backed up and flooded the restaurant. I have not been able to go back since. Nothing tasted good after that.
Oh man that sucks.
It’s the kind of thing that isn’t really anyone’s fault, but could definitely swing your impression of a place towards the irredeemably negative.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
They should have comped the meal and did not.
They offered a free dessert and I responded by saying only if it was to go.
No kidding they should have comped the meal.
Man do I love midgets.
That's kinda shitty.
I actually am undying loyal to that place because I’ve always been treated so well there; the first time I went I took my girlfriend for her birthday. It was fairly obvious that we didn’t have all that much money, but we were treated so wonderfully by the waitstaff that it blew my mind. I had become so accustomed to be treated poorly at nice restaurants when it became apparent that I wouldn’t be spending $100s of dollars that I recommended it to everyone I knew immediately afterwards. So to hear that someone had an experience so out of character with what I’ve come to expect is kind of a bummer.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I have no animosity towards the place.
Most of my friends love it. Me, every time I drive past I see floating waste.
That would do it.
It sucks when something like that ruins what could be a good experience.
Man do I love midgets.
The U-District deserves to be destoryed.
Araya’s, the College Inn, Trading Musician and the movie theatres can all be spared.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
College Inn, plus Scarecrow, plus a good Indian, plus the Galway Arms and
sometimes Flowers. Sure, they’re all surrounded by shit, but that’s still more good places than my neighborhood.
The college inn is so, so good.
I miss that place
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Araya's lunch buffet is worth the trip.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
They have a parking lot that is rarely (if ever) full.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm. I may have to give it a whirl.
Where is the lot? Isn’t it on the corner of University and 45th?
No, they've moved.
It’s on 45th about a block down from Brooklyn.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'd also spare Big Time
but I’d attach a requirement that frat boys are not allowed inside it.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Their beer is fairly decent, but I've never had a good time there.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
I usually have
but that’s because every time I go there I go with about 8 people and we take over most of the front and can thus ignore the rest of the place.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with the above
But I’m also partial to Aladdins Falafel and Gyro. Those guys have served me up some righteous gyros for years now. If Earl’s was still at it’s old location and not frat heaven I’d say spare that. Not too many other places where $8 gets you absolutely hammered.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Not that $8 hammered is a must
anymore but it’’s nice to know it’s there just in case you need it.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Good call.
Every once in a while I’d make a detour from someplace like downtown to grab a gyro for the road – after show food to tide me over on my drive home.
I used to like sitting on the comfy sofa way in the back. Good times.
Yer thinking different place
Alladin’s Gyrocery, easy to get confused I know. And that place isn’t bad either but they only take cash and often seem rther cold when I order. Alladin’s Falafel and Gyros is north of 45th right next to Thai Tom(mmm…Thai Tom)
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I believe it does
see Capitol Hill. You need a snow plow to get through all the hipsters. You’d of course spend the next few days scraping skinny jeans and fix geared bikes off the plow but it’d be totally worth it.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yes it would certainly be worth it to destory the entire city's cultural scene just to be rid of those darned hipsters.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
entire cultural scene?
I’ve avoid capitol hill for years due to the low air quality from the large smug cloud that hangs over the area but I was unaware it was the city’s cultural heart.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
My family grew up in and around Capitol Hill
and rest assured it’s not as full of smug hipsters as the Stranger would lead you to believe. Get east of 15th and it’s pretty much families and stuff. It’s full of money, sure, but not hipsters.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
This is true
When someone says Capitol Hill I always think of Broadway and the Pike/Pine corridor. I often seem to forget that there is a whole other side to it that is not covered in the smug cloud.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
About 75% of the people I know involved in music or visual arts live on Capitol Hill.
The majority of the city’s good live music venues are on Capitol HIll. Most of the best record stores, book stores and arts organizations are there as well. It’s also the most densely populated neighborhood in Seattle by far. Are there annoying people on the hill? Of course. But there are annoying people everywhere, and I find Ballard, Fremont, the U-District and Queen Anne to be full of far more intolerable people than Capitol Hill.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno
I know of quite a few good record stores in the U district that are just as good as those on Capitol Hill. As for music venues outside of Chop Suey whats a good music venue? Neumos, The King Cobra I’ve never been terribly impressed with. I guess they’re cheaper than The Showbox, The Moore, or the Paramount but I’m willing to pay more for those venues.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
If you like the Moore better than Neumos, that's cool, but it just highlights
the fact that you and acblue will simply not see eye to eye on any of this. Not saying your view is out-and-out wrong, but I can’t get my mind around preferring the Moore to Neumo’s.
I don’t live in capital hill, and wouldn’t choose to even if I could somehow afford it, but I’m glad it’s there.
Maybe it's the history of the place
that clouds my vision. I just remember all the great shows that used to be there so often and I enjoy that aspect of it. Neumos, I dunno. But I agree that ac and I will have to agree to disagree(as much as I hate that term) It’s not that I hate Capitol Hill really, I just don’t believe its quite the Mecca that some people make it out to be. Maybe it is the stranger. If my friend didn’t write for them I dunno if I’d ever read that paper.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Don't waste your time with The Stranger
no offense to your friend, but The Stranger is a hideous rag that has no redeeming features other than show listings.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
He works in the underrated news dept
but aside from him I agree
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
I actually love the Stranger's local news coverage
and if your friend is who I think he is I think he’s one of their best writers. It’s when they try to delve into national/world news that I think they screw things up terribly, and I hate hate hate their cultural criticism.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
that who you were thinking of? I agree with you on this. I also loathe Muedede’s constant dog bashing. I understand if people don’t like dogs but that doesn’t mean you have to actively make people who do like dogs feel like social retards because of it
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he's great.
Mudede drives me batshit insane. I loved his Police Beat columns, but everything he’s done since then has been like nails on a chalkboard.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Totally
I think Jonah does the Police Beat now. It’s also funny because Jonah is the only person at the stranger who knows anything/cares about sports. I can’t imagine being that isolated at my job.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
He does an excellent job with Police Beat.
I really wish the Stranger would give him (or me! Hi Dan!) a shot at doing a sports column, but then where would they find the space to let Eric Grandy talk about his record collection?
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Already been done, remember?
Man do I love midgets.
I know!!
Jonah’s even pitched the idea to them and talked about having me help him(as I was the person that reintroduced him to sports) but no bites. He tried to give it a go with a sports blog which was a good time but his workload left me doing most of the work. And that was cool until I tired of not having other voices on the blog and now it’s gone silent. I regret this as there has been a lot to write about these past few months.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
By "good" I mean venues that regularly put on good shows.
I’m also not a huge fan of Neumo’s, but they do great shows there. Same deal with the Comet. Haven’t been to King Cobra yet. Then there are the less-than-official venues, Healthy Times Fun Club being the most notable.
My larger point, though, is that “hipsters” do things like play in bands, produce art, promote shows, open clubs, run records labels, etc etc etc. It’s become fashionable to hate hipsters, but I think it often amounts to not liking people based on the way they dress/where they hang out and that it misses the point entirely.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think the reason people don't like hipsters is
not because how they dress/where they hang out but that they do it only because other people do it. They see that the people from the bands and artists attend these bars or hear such and such bar is cool and hang out there just because it is cool. It’s not they there is something that they truly like the way they dress or things they do but those things are considered hip s they do it, hence “hipster”.
Take fixed gear bikes. They have their place, but a bike without the ability to slow down via shifting down gears and or breaks is not a good fit in a city like Seattle. But people ride them nonetheless because they saw it on a video on the internet or something. That kind of group think is something that irks me. Not only in hipsters but in all groups of people.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed gear bikes are only a good fit on banked oval tracks where stopping is not important
I hate the fact that those things are so prevalent everywhere now.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
I have heard this argument many times, and I just don't buy it.
Are there people that are into things largely because their friends are into them? Sure. But you could say that about anything. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to believe that people share common interests.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Sure, but that's in no way limited to hipsters.
It’s everywhere, and really, if it wasn’t for hanging out with people with better taste than mine and listening to what they said I wouldn’t have discovered nearly as many great bands/movies/books/whatever on my own.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Ballard is not year round--only U and West Seattle...
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Someone needs to copy edit the Ballard website
Meet, Seafood & Poultry
Also, I doubt I’ll be up for going anywhere next Sunday morning.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
If I go, I'm taking everyone who was drinking with me the night before.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
A real man would come to Portland after leaving Tacoma
to go to the Lompoc and then stop by the HoTD brewery afterwards.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
word, yo
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck family, this is LL.
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...
A brother’s got a schedule
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Hey, I'll go to the Lompoc.
Mmm…C-Note…
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Any time. Any excuse.
Let me know, I’ll be there.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'm so glad we all get to experience your charming personality this weekend.
Also Robert never sleeps. Just a warning.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's pretty nice, they really have some nice fresh produce there and the crowds are usually pretty nice people
A lot of locals from the Ravenna ravine area frequent that market. The little strip along Ravenna Blvd from 15 Ave to 35th Ave, and bounded on the northern side by 65th is a great neighbourhood. Lot of teaching professionals in there, doctors, lawyers, artists, etc associated with UW. Not everything in the U-District is drunken frat boy/modern condo shit splattered crap. Sit at the bar under Third Place Books on 65th some week night, have a conversation with Caleb if he’s working. The person on your left will probably be a visual artist, the person on your right an astrophysicist, and the conversation will probably blow your mind.
Formerly dpseadvr.
anybody have any good vacuum cleaner recommendations?
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Probably not for what you're likely to try with it
by Graham MacAree on Jan 6, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What do you think I would try with it?
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vacuum cleaners have no reproductive value
why would I have sex with it
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Neither does ham salad but that's never stopped you before
by Graham MacAree on Jan 6, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I eat ham salad
I do not have sex with it
I’m not even sure how the mechanics of that would work
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you're in a weird mood right now
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You mean that that picture wasn't taken after you fucked it?
It’s totally inexplicable then
by Graham MacAree on Jan 6, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Easily explained by bad lighting and a shitty camera
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vacuum cleaners can't be snorted stupid
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What's your budget?
Don’t listen to anybody that says buy a Dyson. They’re overrated – not bad, but not worth what you’d pay. I got this one a couple months ago and like it pretty well. It doesn’t have an auto-retracting cord but other than that one annoyance it’s solid.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I was looking to spend half that
I don’t need any gizmos, just a thing that sucks dirt from the floor
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I want it to last
I want the 1988 Honda Accord of vacuum cleaners
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Then spend the $150 and get something durable
you get what you pay for. Buy a $75 vac now and replace it in a year when it doesn’t work any more, and you’ve still spent $150.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
good point
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I don't have any personal experience
but I had several people in my office swear by Dyson’s as awesome.
Because I would respond with dignity and respect
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 6, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
If you have any leftover I'm sure Bretts kegerator party will surely suck the rest out of you.
by Robert on Jan 6, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
How many recs do I have, huh?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 8, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
You should start.
It really creates a bond.
Especially if your cover your chest with maple syrup first.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
If it's not me, they can enjoy the walk back to the apartment from the airport.
by Matthew on Jan 6, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I've heard good things about the Simplicity range
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They also look very expensive
Like the Cadillac of vacuum cleaners
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Dyson's are not overrated...
…when you pay $225 for them like I did.
I LOVE my Dyson.
Jeez, here’s the one I got for just over $200. I vacuum my bathroom linoleum with it, as well as the kitchen hardwood floor. It’s a jack-of-all-trades vacuum that just works.
This signature space for rent.
no pets allowed :(
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I do want a beagle dog though
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I noticed my google doesn't bring up anything for beagle vacuum cleaner other then lots of youtube results of cute beagles chasing vacuum cleaners
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No kidding
I used to love that movie. Though I always got a little freaked when they go to the dump(correct me if I’m wrong I haven’t seen this movie in years)
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
This and Iron Giant are both awesome.
Only good thing Vin Diesel ever did.
Man do I love midgets.
If he was in it, I never saw it.
Man do I love midgets.
It's a Sidney Lumet movie.
He’s not a good actor by any means, but he was well cast. It’s not amazing or anything, but it’s worth watching.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe I'll check it out some day.
Man do I love midgets.
Sidney Lumet is an underrated director.
He hasn’t made any truly great movies, but he doesn’t have a bad film in his catalog.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Dog Day Afternoon?
That’s a great one for me"Attica! Attica!" when I worked in a video store I used to tell people Airheads was a comedy remake of Dog Day. Sometimes they’d believe me.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
I actually haven't seen it but from what I've heard
it’s good but not as good as the reviews, because a lot of critics realized it would be his last movie and didn’t think he ever got the praise he deserved.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I liked it, didn't love it
You didn’t think “Network” was a truly great movie? I love love LOVE that movie.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't seen that one either.
A good friend of mine with very similar taste watched and it wouldn’t shut up about how much he hated it.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting.
I’m not sure it’s in my top 10 of all time or anything, but it’s a damn good film.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not afraid of clowns
but this scene used to terrify me.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
I can't think of a better response than this.
Man do I love midgets.
I have a question about a topic we discussed yesterday that just came to me.
We talked about bands who have had as much or more success changing lead singers after already being successful. Does it count if the band changes it’s name? i.e. Joy Division to New Order.
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Yep.
Alter Bridge is creed minus Scott Stapp, and plus the ex-lead singer of Mayfield Four (another crappy “hard rock” band).
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
But New Order is Joy Division with a new singer
because Ian Curtis killed himself, so that really sorta falls under the first category.
It should be noted here that the Portland Winterhawks’ goalie this season is named Ian Curtis.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Not entirely the same band,
they just shared some members.
Man do I love midgets.
I was just about to say the same thing
It was just Ament and Gossard that came from MLB, right?
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Only because you know deep down I'm right.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Mother Love Bone has two good songs
they are glorified butt rock that’s only though of as good because their lead singer is dead and two of the members founded a band became really really famous. That, and Andy Wood’s voice is awful and makes even their good songs hard to listen too.
by JI on Jan 6, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Creepy
Plus I think all the members of Joy Division including Ian Curtis agreed that if anything were to happen so that Ian Curtis wasn’t the singer they’d change them name
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
and it's not particularly close
although I do have a lot of affection for “Love Vigilantes”.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Completely disagree.
I enjoy Joy Division, but New Order is one of my favorite bands of all time.
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I like New Order well enough
but damn Joy Division is some good dark music.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I've always secretly wanted the Magnetic Fields to do a tribute album to Joy Division.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
that would be mightily cool.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
New Order is good but damn if Joy Division aint some of the most beautiful and depressing music I’ve ever heard. Interesting thing is you’d think with the tone of the music and the lyrics his band mates would know Ian Curits was a seriously depressed guy. Not at all the case.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Robert Smith hasn't offed himself yet...
I’d’ve thought he was next…
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Rage Against the Machine to Audioslave
Although I don’t know if Audioslave had more success than Rage.
"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin
They had more artistic sucess.
As far as commercial success I don’t know but most likely.
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No, because it's a new band entirely at that point.
I think the problem is when a band switches frontmen/frontwomen and tries to keep going without missing a beat.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sabbath
and speaking of RJD, Rainbow
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
So here's a refinement
because otherwise this list will quickly devolve into every band that ever played or ever will play the Emerald Queen Casino. Bands that are still at their peak that switch frontmen/women without losing a beat?
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno what qualifies as a band but
The Temptations kicked David Ruffin out and continues kicking ass
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Ripper was only the lead singer for one album, right?
And it was pretty much panel.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 6, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Van Halen continued to do well post DLR, right?
Hagar had a pretty good run with the band, I thought
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
They had about a three album run if I remember correctly.
Man do I love midgets.
Hagar, yes, Cherone not so much
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Iron Maiden
arguably got better after adding Bruce Dickinson
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
They certainly got bigger.
But they were pretty successful before adding him.
Deep Purple was huge when Ian Gillan left, and adding David Coverdale kept them going pretty well.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
To me a big part of it is song wirting
if a band loses their primary songwriter it’s difficult to call them the same band.
by JI on Jan 6, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Let's take this discussion in another direction.
What is the most epically disastrous lead singer change but band carry’s on example of all time? I nominate 10,000 Maniacs.
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Hrm
I can’t think of one, sadly. Thought I nominate Limp Bizkit (a band I hate) for most epically disastrous guitar player but band carry’s one example I can think of
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe Van Halen when they went from Hagar to Chode (or whatever his name was).
Man do I love midgets.
Gary Cherone
but Chode is just as good.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Iron Maiden
Switching from Bruce Dickinson to Blaze Bayley.
Black Sabbath – switching from Ian Gillan to Glenn Hughes.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Nightwish.
Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!
Hmm, Baker didn't list contract terms, but I'm guessing this is one of those cheap, short deals that we'll like
http://statcorner.com/pitcherRP.php?id=400104&team=SFN&year=2008&leag=N_L
~4.5 tRA* throughout his ML career, looks like he gets a ton of swinging strikes and does ~whatever in terms of grounders
What's the most any of you would pay for a decent seat at a sporting event
- regular season game (no special significance)
- important regular season game (against rival, potential division clinching game, etc.)
- early round playoff game
- championship game
Answers (all assume no service charges)
Regular season game: $35-40
Important regular season game: same
Early round playoff game: $75-100
Championship game: I have paid $275 for tickets to a championship game in the past, so I’d probably go $400 max. All bets are off, however, if said championship game includes the Mariners – I’d probably mortgage my house for WS tickets if the M’s were involved.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
I am prepared to lay out four figures for each Mariners WS game I can attend if need be.
Low four figures, but still, if that’s what it takes that’s what it takes. At least the first time the M’s get to the WS.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
This can work
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
For Baseball I wouldn't pay for than 15 for a meaningless game
Football up to 25 percent over face value for any Seahawks game and whatever it would take to go to a deciding game for either sport.
As of right now, or in a theoretical universe where I made the kind of living I hope to make in 2-3 years?
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
That makes this easier.
Regular season: $25-$30
Important regular season: $50
Early playoffs-$50
LCS-$100
WS-$500
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I paid over $100 in 1998 to be at the game when Sosa hit his 62nd homer.
It was totally worth every penny. Including the flight and hotel.
It's going to cost me a few hundred bucks to be at Opening Day this year (twice as much if I meet a girl)
But be there I will
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This will be the first time in over 5 years I will not be at Mariners opening day
That kinda saddens me.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
My inlaws have the same thing about UA making it to the Rose Bowl.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
They're probably in luck then
a coworker went to Penn State, and said she was able to get tickets for $200 at the door this year
oooh, good to know
but they’re UA season ticket holders and have been for 25+ years, so they’ll probably get tix for face value.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I would pay a few thousand dollars to see Ottawa in the Stanley Cup at home
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 6, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
I would not pay nearly this much to see the Mariners in a similar situation
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
This seems contradictory to the story of the young boy and the fireworks photo.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
We're like the worst team in the league
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 7, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
I only half heartedly followed the 98 Mariners and Seahawks too.
Just because I don’t have Matthews passion doesn’t mean, I’m not enjoying the dysfunction. Ruttu bit a man!
We are similar to that which one would consider to be the worst team in the league
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 7, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
How much for an outdoor Battle of Ontario?
by Graham MacAree on Jan 6, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Seventeen moose pelts and a wooden club
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Those outdoor games are a great idea.
But the weather is a crapshoot. Chicago went really well, but it really was too cold the first year in Edmonton.
And most NHL cities couldn’t host one. Even in Canada, Vancouver’s too warm and Calgary’s too erratic (nice rule of thumb in Calgary – the record high and record low on any date are 100°F apart).
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
I think the crapshoot-y weather is part of the fun though
I just love the fact that a league would allow a regular-season game to be played in such altered conditions and make it a showpiece – can you imagine the Celtics and Lakers being allowed to play outdoors, or something like that?
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
That would be awesome.
Have them play at one of the legendary playground courts or something?
Man do I love midgets.
That's what I was thinking
Or have the Knicks play a game at Rucker Park once a year or something
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure why I started that sentence with "or", really
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
that would be revolutionary
they could use some sort of fake grass or something.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
I think a half-sphere would be the most efficient shape for this
a big cube seems wasteful
I was thinking a pyramid
but it would have to be big enough to allow for the parabola of a towering popup.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Minnesota having an outdoor stadium means every year some coach
gets to pull a Hargrove!
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the only issue would be crowd control
Rucker Park’s not designed to hold the billion people that’d want to see it so the NBA would have to be pretty severe with ticketing and such.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure they could find a way to either cordon off an area,
or simply build grandstands that blocked the view of anyone who didn’t pay.
Man do I love midgets.
Traditionally, they've held HS all-star games there with added grandstands and such
I would do something similar, you could probably seat ~2,000 people if you really worked it, and have the game as a perk for 40-year season ticket holders or something
The other problem is that the Rucker Park courts are HS sized, I believe
and the NBA plays on a slightly larger court
The NBA has the money to change this,
and then they can charge $5,000.00 per ticket and rake it in.
Man do I love midgets.
I think the idea of playing a game at Rucker Park
and charging $5k for tickets defeats the purpose.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Fill the stand with kids and parents from the community.
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I think I like my idea of having the game as a big perk for long-time season ticket holders better
rewards people for supporting the team for a long time, through good times and bad
While I agree with you,
I doubt the NBA would see it that way. They’d charge through the nose for tickets, and fill the stands with rich people and celebrities. Then they’d get some big sponsor and have some inner-city families sit courtside for publicity shots promoting some “helping hands” initiative or something.
Man do I love midgets.
If they played at Rucker Park
and the referees were told not to call traveling unless the player were to just pick up the ball and start running with it, it might draw the highest rating of any basketball game, ever.
Of course, if it rained, it might be pretty dangerous to play
Hockey teams should not be in cities where games could not be played outside.
Man do I love midgets.
I take it one step further
Hockey teams should not be in cities whose climates do not naturally produce ice.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Seattle gets an NHL team
and then frankly, I don’t give a crap where they put the rest. I want NHL here. Bad.
The NHL has a problem.
They won’t eliminate teams, because that sends the message that the league isn’t doing well (and they’d have to buy out those extra owners). And they can’t expand, because they’re really not doing that well.
They could move teams. That’s really what they should do. Move a team to Seattle. Put teams back in Winnipeg and Quebec and Hartford (I was a Nordiques fan as a kid). That Winnipeg team was full of history – they were called the Jets because they started out as the RCAF team.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Really, I'd be happy if they just managedto keep the temperature in the arenas cool enough
so that the ice stayed smooth and the puck didn’t thaw.
NHL standards are for the air temperature in the hockey arena to be 12°C (~54°F). But I see games in LA and Miami where the crowd is dressed as if it’s 85°F in there. No wonder the puck bounces so much.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
because Tampa has a team and Portland doesn't and I'm bitter
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
Tampa has actually put together a hell of a market
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 6, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Thus the bitterness
Portland could do the same thing and probably come up with better uniforms.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
I want Seattle to poach the Milwaukee Admirals from the AHL and make them our NHL franchise
because holy fuck is their logo badass.
that's probably the best mascot I've seen in years
that’s awesome.
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by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
It took a few times before I noticed the hockey stick
is the pirates’ missing leg. It just keeps getting better.
that was the most awesome part.
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by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
That logo doesn't even make any sense
Why does he use his leg as a stick and his stick as a leg when he would better off just leaving things be?
that question makes even less sense
it’s a pegleg, not a hockey stick. And it’s a mascot. And it’s awesome.
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by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Because the Seahawks logo is totally realistic and looks like a bird
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by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
This wasn't what I was getting at.
I used to frequent a forum that a lot of professional logo designers hung around and the general rule of thumb is that the less corners on a logo the better. The Admirals logo is too busy and strikes me as amateurish but I like the concept.
That's the alt logo
and it’s a minor league hockey team. Of course it’s amateurish.
but at least he's not wearing one of those wussy Euro visors.
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by pdb on Jan 7, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
it took you 30 minutes and that's the best you could come up with?
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
It did not take me that long at all
I was off for a bit
It took you not that long at all
and that’s the best you could come up with?
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
If we're talking ultimate championship game (e.g. Super Bowl, Game 7, ...)
then I’d go to four figures, but most likely not five, much more if it’s at home.
My order goes of willing to pay goes:
Mariners WS Game 7 ~$5,000
Senators SC Game 7 ~$5,000
Seahawks SB ~$2,500
ok
normal regular season game- $18
important- $25
non clinching playoff – 100
clinching playoff- 200
clinching championship- I can’t count that high
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This is really awesome.
How do they draw the lines on the field in football?
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RHP Tyler Walker signed FYI
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You may have missed something....
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I see that
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I can't see it anywhere but a few places, but it looks like Muse will be playing the Anaheim HOB on June 6th!!!!!
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I'd even give him the talk before I slipped the knife into his kidney.
“You know why I have to do this to you, don’t you Carlos?” He’ll just hang his head because he knows his life has been a waste.
Fear the NPE
I would argue that as a multi-millionaire he's probably quite happy with the way things have played out.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 6, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
knowing and caring are two different things.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Alright it's been fun shooting the shit
but now I gotta find the bus that takes me back out to Spokane
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 6, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions
Can anyone explain these lyrics to me?
Clipside of the pinkeye flight
I’m not the percent you think survives
I need sanctuary in the pages of this book
Gestating with all the other rats
Nurse said that my skin will need a graft
I am of pock-marked shapes
The vermin you need to loathe
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Books
Books I’ve read repeatedly, and would urge others to read as well:
- The Autobiography of Malcolm X
- Ishmael
- Out of Left Field
- Freakonomics
- Chronicles Volume One
- On the Road
- The Stranger
- Sirens of Titan
- Which Lie Did I Tell?
On the Road, the Autobiography of Malcolm X, and Ishmael were likely the three most influential books on my life during college. I suspect everyone here has read Out of Left Field, but if you haven’t, it’s a wonderful history of the Seattle Mariners. Chronicles Volume One is Bob Dylan’s biography, and even if you’re not a fan, it’s still fascinating to read the musings of one of the genius’s of our time. The Sirens of Titan is one of my favorite Vonnegut books. Which Lie Did I Tell? has all sorts of wonderful insights into the film industry by William Goldman. While there are a lot of books called The Stranger, the one I’m referring to is actually a short story by Mark Twain about the Devil.
Books I’ve been meaning to read (i.e. books I’ve acquired recently): John Lennon: the Life, A Confederacy of Dunces, A Supposedly Fun Thin I’ll Never Do Again, West Coast Cooking (a cookbook (duh)), and James Joyce’s Dubliners. Oh, and I also started A Moveable Feast a few weeks ago, but never actually finished it.
Any thoughts?
Somehow I have yet to read it
It’s sad that after typing that, my immediate thought was “I wonder how many pages Invisible Man is.” I feel like such an intellectual heavyweight.
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I’m dead.
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by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I can only get about two pages into James Joyce.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 6, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
But Dubliners is fantastic
He uses the English language, not some self-developed hybrid; it’s a collection of short stories and they’re all really good.
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by pdb on Jan 6, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Because you've been Ayn Randed.
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by PositivePaul on Jan 7, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I'll throw out some titles.
Some books I’ve read countless times, and will read many more times before I die:
- Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams)
- Picture of Dorian Gray and Importance of Being Earnest, specifically (Oscar Wilde)
- The Diamond Age (Neal Stephenson)
- Tokyo Montana Express (Richard Brautigan)
- Women (Charles Bukowski) (I know, I know.)
Books I’ve read recently:
- Faithfull, a biography of Marianne Faithfull
- By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept (Elizabeth Smart)
- King Dork (Frank Portman)
- Le Bernadin Cookbook (Eric Ripert)
Out of all those, I have only read Hitchhiker's Guide.
I’ve had King Dork sitting around for a while, and never got around to it, and passed by Picture and Diamond age many times meaning to pick them up, but never have.
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