OTFPOTD - More beer a brewing edition
The gruit thing is growing on me. The 7% ABV and odd herbal taste makes it so I don't want to drink too much, but I can now see why people brewed with gruit herbs before hops was widely used. It's not really beer though. My "recipe" would not hold in a competition, but it was more pleasant than I expected. Next gruit is still going to be that Anti-imperial stout, but I have a mild ale to do first.
I picked up 10 lbs of pale malt and am going to try and mash the malt my self. Always time for a first :) If it doesn't work out I piced up some light malt extract syrup and dry malt extract.
My goal with the mild ale is to make a "low alcohol" brown ale and see how well it turns out. I have some Wyeast 1084 Irish Ale yeast (Stout yeast) and some Safale-04 in the fridge. I'm leaning toward Safale-04 because it has higher attenuation, higher flocculation, and leaves less of the diacetyl and estery (buttery and fruity) tastes in the beer than the Irish Ale yeast. I may save the Irish ale for my stout. I plan on steeping in 6 oz of Brown malt, 6 oz Crystal 60L, 2 oz Chocolate malt, 1 oz of Black malt, and 1 oz of roasted barley. I'm going to do 3 editions of .5 oz Kent Goldings hops.
Guess I let you know how it turns out. I may ALSO start a stout today, but not the anti-imperial one. I don't think I have enough mugwort and would need to find Licorice Root, Vanilla Bean, chicory, etc.
Also, try and give me some idea for a beer to brew. Someday I may share. Not next weekend though. I will most likely have to work, so no LL/USSM event for me :(
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My goal
with the mash is to do my mash in a coleman cooler (I’ve got one w/ the spigot on the bottom), transfer off the liquids, and pour the sparge water over it. I’d then take a hydrometer reading and adjust with malt extract (or dilute with water) based on my results. I’m really getting into this brewing thing.
Regarding “ideas”, I’m looking for things like, style of beer, spice / flavor additions, alternative brewing sugars and malts, yeast and hop ideas. For example, I’ve thought about a winter style beer using spices like vanilla bean, anise, licorice root, nutmeg, cloves, ginger, spices like that. I’d mash at a higher temp and use more crystal malts to give a sweeter flavor. I’d have to figure out the best yeast to try that with. Probably would mildly hop (relative to the gravity) something like that, and do medium-high gravity dark beer, getting the color more from dark sugars than dark malts so it doesn’t taste overly roasted. Those kinds of ideas. Or a sweet potato beer. Or a malted Amaranth, malted Quinoa, malted Rice, and honey. Should probably actually mash malt barley before experimenting like that. I’ve been thinking about getting some 1 gallon carboys for experimenting.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Since it seems I'm the only one
currently experimenting with Zymurgy here, I’m probably talking to myself (what’s new), but maybe you guys have some ideas, and maybe I’ll spark someone to try it. It’s fairly easy, at least using extracts and steeped grains. I’m a total newbie, having only been brewing for 6 months. I also have yet to brew a lager. I’d like to do a dark lager some day. I need a place to keep the temps at 55-60 for the fermentation process. I’d use the fridge to lager it.
I do have a room I could use, I usually keep the temps low (60ish) at home any way, and just wear sweaters and sweat shirts.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of a heavily spiced winter beer.
I know Ginger works well.
by acblue on Jan 4, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Internet Tablets
I’m looking at getting something for surfing the web in hotels. I hate lugging around my lap top. I was looking at one of these:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-inspiron-9?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Any suggestions on my search. I was using my phone, but I hate the keyboard on it and the screen sucks. A Linux based machine is fine, and if it reduces to the price, I’m all for it. I use firefox anyway.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 8:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd like something with bluetooth
so I could use my phone to connect to the internet when need be, like when I’m lost or need to find a restaurant or store or something.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 4, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 4, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone use a Party Pig Keg?
http://www.homebrewery.com/beer/beer-partypig.shtml
I’d get 2 of them to do 5 gallons, or bottle half the batch. Also it looks like you have to prime it IN the pig, which means it would take a couple weeks to drink, but it takes about 4+ weeks after fermenting the way it is to bottle and condition my beer. Also a party pig or two would be nice for camping trips.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 8:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to start home brewing this month
And since I don’t feel like going to wikipedia I’ll just ask you. Whats the difference between Gruits and hops? And how long does it take to make one batch of beer.
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 4, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Beer as you know it
has hops. Hops is a defining character in beer. It contains alpha acids that make the beer bitter, and imparts floral, herbal, and citrusy flavors and aromas to the beer if added later in the boil. Gruit in it’s purest form is Yarrow, Sweet Gale, and Marsh rosemary. Gruit was used before hops was common in ales, to preserve the beer, offset the sweetness, and have a slightly psychoactive effect. Hops does all that, but is even better at it, and since the 1300’s has become the defining bittering agent in beer.
I could not find marsh rosemary or yarrow, so I bittered with Mugwort, did the flavor/aroma part with Sweet gale and dry “hopped” with both. It tastes only very slightly like beer as you and I would know it.
Beer takes about 2 weeks to ferment, 2 weeks to carbonate, and 2+ weeks to condition. I plan on 6 weeks total for beer to be “up to snuff”. Of course more conditioning time helps a lot of beers. Kegging helps reduce the time, but since I don’t have one, I can’t give any tips there.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd start
doing extract beers. Steeping in color grains is no big deal, and you can steep in some flaked barley, and add maltodextrin if you want to add body. As you can tell, I haven’t taken the plunge and mashed my own wort yet. That hopefully will happen today. It’ll probably be a partial-mash, but from everything I’ve been told, partial is perfectly fine for good beer, in fact a lot of brewery’s add extract for some alcohol boost, and as long as you have some mashed grain, you’ll get enough body to make it good.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My buddy who brews
told me early on to wait on doing all-grain or even partial mash. I’m a little scared, but it’s time. If it tastes like wort, and I get good hydrometer readings, I’ll steep in the rest of the grains and boil the hops, if not, I’ll dump it and try again later, and do another extract beer for now.
FYI, if you need a food scale, I just got one at Rite-aid for $10. It was in the christmas gift section and was 50% clearance.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Thx man. I swear LL is becoming more useful then wikipedia
You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 4, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Surnames are illegal in Iceland
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Jan 4, 2009 3:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
if they clone Dinosaurs like in Jurassic park, would they taste like chicken?
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So I almost died today
The tire shop that put my snow tires on last week apparently forgot to tighten the wheels all the way. One of my tires had one fucking lug nut left on it. Tow truck guy said had I driven another mile I would have lost the tire (and presumably rolled and almost died)
They’re in big trouble. And I’m stuck in the middle of Utah
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 4, 2009 3:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So you're a magnet for
bad decisions AND bad luck. Sorry to hear you’re stuck.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side I'm going to get extra pictures of I-80 I didn't think I was going to get
I don’t care that I’m stuck- it’s the almost ending up in a serious car accident because some idiot forgot to tighten my lug nuts part that bothers me
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 4, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also relieved that if there absolutely had to be a mechanical problem with my car it's something that's not my fault and I won't have to pay for
Plus I get a free hotel
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 4, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My agent promised me that would be fatal
by Graham on Jan 4, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are much easier and better ways to kill me then fucking with my car
My car is pretty much the only thing in which I’m fully aware of if something isn’t right
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 4, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You weren't aware that your tire was fucked
by Jeff on Jan 4, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When my car started wobbling like my tire was fucked I pulled over
Before that it was unnoticeable
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 4, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's some shitty shit
Happened to us once when driving into Spokane, while coming down the hill on I-90 into the valley just before the Downtown area. My dad was driving us in our ‘87 Suburban and pulling our 25’ trailer. I was sitting in the back seat and glanced out the window just in time to see 3 lug nuts go flying away from the left rear tire.Called that out to my dad and he started to slow down, just in time for the wheel to go flying off and begin bounding down the freeway, passing us while bouncing. My dad somehow steered the truck from the far left lane all the way to the right-side shoulder in a lifted truck pulling 25’ of dead weight, all while dragging the left rear wheel hub, carving a channel in the road. Crazy shit. It’s a good thing you noticed and were able to stop in time
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Jan 4, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're lucky you had that big of a trailer on you
I’d guess that the tow bar was the only thing that kept you propped up
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 5, 2009 5:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's snowing good right now in Kirkland
by chrisisasavage on Jan 4, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would have been snowing during the playoff game :(
by Robert on Jan 4, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What are playoffs?
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by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 4, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's been snowing here for the past 4 hours.
I’m fucking sick of snow.
by Goose on Jan 4, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If this ends up being a dusting I'm fine with it.
If this ends up trapping me in my neighborhood for two weeks, fuck that.
by acblue on Jan 4, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Around 3" already, and it's still snowing like a mad.
Drat nabbit crappity doo, just got rid of all the snow. Say hello to my little friend, snow shovel. Maybe it will all melt tomorrow.
Formerly dpseadvr.
by Kermit. on Jan 4, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's supposed to change over to rain tonight.
by BrianL on Jan 4, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, YOU'RE changing over to rain tonight!
There’s just enough snow for work to be delayed, so I can sleep in, without it being canceled. This snow needs to stick around.
by katal on Jan 4, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just remembered getting into a discussion with Teej and a few other people regarding meteorology.
I was wrong. Right, but wrong in the context, which amounts to wrong anyway. Did some digging and there’s about as many different types of weather reporting as your imagination will allow. All the types I’ve been familiar with deal with how much of an area will be impacted by a weather condition. But when local forecasts are calling for a 60 percent chance of showers, they really are saying you have a 6 in 10 chance of getting wet.
That conversation led to some really interesting reading, there’s a lot of fascinating research in meteorology. There’s some big programs for it in several mid-West and upper-Midwest universities.
Formerly dpseadvr.
by Kermit. on Jan 4, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So apparently I made up the 3 inches of snow in my mind. As well as the wreck on the way to work that caused me to be a half hour late.
Because eight hours later, I’m heading home and there isn’t a trace of snow. Anywhere.
Weird.
by Goose on Jan 5, 2009 4:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate this so much.
This is Seattle. We don’t get winter here. Fall, Spring, and a sliver of summer. What in the hell.
by James F'n X on Jan 4, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
Plus, since I’ve switched careers, I’ve gone from being very negatively effected by the snow (car sales) to very positively effected by it (collision repairs). It’s awesome. I just got back from driving to downtown Renton for dinner and saw tons of cars getting in minor wrecks and was excited because that’s the kind of stuff that will keep me busy at work
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Jan 4, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sitting on the tarmac at Sea-Tac for three hours while they kept telling us "fifteen more minutes" every ten minutes blew too
hopefully no one else had a travel annoyance story like mine – in the end I decided just to go to work at 3 AM rather than drive home and come back in four hours.
by seattlebruin on Jan 5, 2009 4:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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