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With wicked cold temperatures around the US I'm guessing more people will be staying at home this weekend.  I'll generate a few topics but feel free to come up with whatever crazy topic you can.  I like music topics so here we go.

What song would you like to see covered by a particular band and why?

What classic album, if released today, would still be just as popular now as it was then?

Best and Worst live concert you have attended.

Favorite album to pop in and listen to in the dark.

That one song that no matter how bad a mood you are, will always make you smile?

 

I guess that is enough from me.  Enjoy your weekend y'all.

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I would love to hear Our Lady Peace cover Love Song by the Cure.
I think Rumors by Fleetwood Mac is timeless.
Best Show: Better Than Ezra at Tipitina’s Mardi Gras 2004 in New Orleans
Worst: Blues Traveler at the Egan Center 1995 in Anchorage
Mezzanine by Massive Attack
Just Like Heaven by the Cure or Bizarre Love Triangle by New Order

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

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What song would you like to see covered by a particular band and why?

My first answer was that I’d like to see the Rolling Stones cover Like A Rolling Stone, but research via Google reveals that they have. It’s on their Stripped album. Instead, I bet the White Stripes would do a good cover of The Louvin Brothers’ While You’re Cheating On Me. It seems like their cup of tea.

What classic album, if released today, would still be just as popular now as it was then?

I was listening to Get Off Of My Cloud the other day and started lamenting that we don’t have any mega bands anymore, except for possibly Radiohead. It would be fun if something like Revolver, Appetite for Destruction, Sticky Fingers, American Beauty – anything classic – was released today. I feel like our generation has plenty of good music, but we’re being cheated out of our share of classic music.

Best and Worst live concert you have attended.

My best show was the Flaming Lips at the 2003 Sasquatch festival. The set list was basically The Soft Bulletin + Yoshimi + She Don’t Use Jelly. The sunset against the stage + the Gorge was gorgeous, and there were hippies dancing in front of me. My God if that wasn’t a replica of what seeing the Dead at their peak was like.

My worst show was a 2002 White Stripes End-Session. The White Stripes were one of the first bands that I liked long before they blew up. I had lucked into winning tickets, and could not wait for the performance. At the start of the show Jack used much snark in telling the audience of 20 to be quiet while he sang. Then he and Meg went through four quick songs, Jack announced “We’ve mustered all we can muster.” and they were done. Real disenchanting. It also bugged me that there were more people from KNDD + their friends in attendance than there were listeners who won tickets.

Favorite album to pop in and listen to in the dark.

Dave Eggers once wrote about how the best way to play tribute to Blonde on Blonde is to listen to it while driving, and to then close your eyes for as long as you possibly can; to the point of danger. It’s scary how often I do this.

That one song that no matter how bad a mood you are, will always make you smile?

There’s probably a more accurate answer, but I really like TheWyrm’s answer of Bizarre Love Triangle.

by katal on Jan 17, 2009 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

Bizare Love Triangle is an intersting song.

I don’t think the lyrics will make sense to anyone unless they themselves have been a part of a love triangle. At that point the song is so poignant that it blows your mind. It is a song that instantly reminds me of my past and of regrets, and how those regrets have shaped me into being who I am. So even though the song itself is fairly depressing, it has a cathartic affect upon my soul.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I surehope there's someone around that can help me with this

For some reason iTunes doesn’t play through the headphone jack on my laptop. All the windows sounds do, but not iTunes. Help! The party starts in 55 minutes and the laptop is the music source.

by coolguyrob on Jan 17, 2009 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Try this.

Disable the Sound Enhancer feature in iTunes:
1. Open iTunes.
2. One the Edit menu, click Preferences.
3. Click the Playback tab.
4. Deselect Sound Enhancer.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Answers:

1. I’d love to hear Walk Like an Egyptian covered by Shiny Toy Guns.

2. I agree with thewyrm on Rumors, but also think that the INXS album Kick would translate very well if released today (I know it’s debatable if it’s a classic).

3. Best Show: Heart at White River in 2006 (not sure on the year, but it was the first show ever held at that venue, could’ve been 2005). Worst would be Third Eye Blind and Eve 6 in Spokane circa 1998.

4. Hmm… not much of a music in the dark listener. Probably Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon.

5. Anything by Barenaked Ladies.

by basebliman on Jan 17, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Let's see...

1: How about the Partridge Family’s ‘I Think I Love You’ covered by Lightning Bolt? They could probably turn that into a fascinating piece of noise, with that melody periodically resurfacing every now and again.

2: This is surprisingly difficult; I think electronica and hip hop might have numerous candidates, but I don’t know as much about those genres. ‘Classic’ rock always tends to sound dated – not because of the music itself but because of the decades of references, use in movies/ads, hagiographic documentaries, etc. Still, given the periodic popularity of blues-tinged rock, it’d be easy to say an early Led Zeppelin album. I think many, many Who albums would also still be popular. I guess the obvious answer though is Black Sabbath’s ‘Paranoid.’

3: Wow…‘best’ has so many meanings. I guess I might say the recent Scared of Chaka reunion show in PDX. It’s nice when you realize you’re putting totally unrealistic expectations on something, but it still exceeds those expectations. Or Lightning Bolt at the old Paradox on the Ave – that’s the opposite case, when I had no idea who they were or what style of music they played. It was surreal. The last concert I went to when I literally couldn’t speak afterwards… I just sort of stared into my beer (in a good way).
Worst: Ben Harper at sasquatch. Interminable. Awful, just awful.

4: I don’t know “The World Is Not a Cold, Dead Place” by Explosions in the Sky or maybe the ‘Have a Nice Life’ album from last year, Deathconsciousness.

5: ‘Harnessed in Slums’ by Archers of Loaf.

by marc w on Jan 17, 2009 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

I miss the Paradox

I saw so many good shows there. Hot Hot Heat, The Thermals, That 1 Guy and His Magical Pipe, I wanna say I saw the Yeah Yeah Yeahs there but I could very well be misremembering things. I took in a lot of good live music back then. It kinda saddens me that I don’t that much anymore.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 17, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Blazers fans out there, maybe you can help me out with this

Darius Miles got to his 10-game plateau to put his contract back on the Blazers books for this year and next. Does this only hurt the Blazers financially because they go into the luxury tax, or does this also hurt their cap space for next year even though he’s not longer on the roster?

by seattlebruin on Jan 17, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

If I was Paul Allen

I would get back at Memphis by buying the team and moving them to Seattle

by Robert on Jan 17, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Actually from having lived there for a year I can tell you Memphis is CRAZY about basketball.

If the Grizzlies were any good I think you would se them get a lot of support. It’s just that they have sucked ass the whole time they have been there.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm from Memphis.

Memphis is crazy about basketball, but they’ve got the Tigers. The Grizzlies were doomed to fail from the start and I think the only people that didn’t know it were ownership and the mayor.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And Stern.

Stern loves teams that move.

by Mariner John on Jan 18, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

They're looking decent though.

OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, Marc Gasol. Not a terrible base to build around.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
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by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

As a Hornets fan I remeber looking at that division when the NBA anounced realignment.

I was sooooo pissed off. I thought it would be the death knell for basketball in New Orleans but luckily we drafted CP3 and the city now worships him.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Here is how I see it.

Pacific:
Golden State
LAC
LAL
Sacramento
Portland

Central:
Utah
OKC
Denver
Minnesota
Phoenix

Southwest stays the same.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That was pretty much how I saw it.

That cuts down on everyone’s travel, and actually makes sense, as opposed to a division where you have to travel to the far corners of the world to play division games. >=(

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
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by joof on Jan 17, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The luxury tax barely matters for Paul Allen.

Darius now counts against the cap again bringing the ammount of money we can spend over the off season from around 20 million to around 10. Thats still a decent amount of money to bring in a good player, but it’s not enough to bring in someone who’s an elite player. People are now thinking that instead of trying to sign a free agent, Pritchard is going to try to swing a trade using Raef’s contract that is 80% covered by insurance to try to grab someone instead, as it may be more bang for your buck that way.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
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by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, that's what I thought

because I didn’t think they would make nearly as big a deal about just getting into the luxury tax

by seattlebruin on Jan 17, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Paul Allen has tons of money to spend, and has shown he's willing to spend it to get a winning team.

He’s like a non-obnoxious Mark Cuban.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
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by joof on Jan 17, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw a couple in Bottleworks that appeared to be there only on the recommendation of a friend.

The only beer they were at all excited about was Leinenkugel’s. The guy seemed to think that the bottle Ruination came in was cool and he went to grab one, until he saw the price. “$7 for a bottle of beer? That’s just way too expensive. No way am I paying that.” Everyone in the store just turned and stared.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

really? only excited about Leinenkugel?

thats sadness

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 18, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Worst concert ever:

James Brown at the Paramount, Halloween 2003. Hardest working man my ass. Slepwalked his way through 7-8 of his worst songs (I Feel Good, yay!) and finished with Living in America (!). No encore, they just turned on the lights, show over.

by waldo rojas on Jan 17, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

Answers:

I’d love to see the Melvins cover Smells Like Teen Spirit with Lief Garrett on vocals. OH WAIT THAT TOTALLY HAPPENED.

Willie Nelson’s “Redheaded Stranger” is probably the best concept album ever and I can’t envision an album that’s more timeless in every way.

Best concert I ever saw (if we’re talking an entire show) would probably be night two of Yoyo A Go Go 1997. This was years ago and several of the bands that played that night existed for about a year, so I don’t remember everyone that played. I do remember it being about six hours of amazing. The bands I do recall were Behead the Prophet: No Lord Shall Live, KARP, the Need, Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her (crazy Japanese noise band, kind of like Blonde Redhead with more distortion) Copass Grinders and KARP. I saw a guy get his nose ring ripped out. It was great.

Best live band I’ve ever seen is (surpiseface.jpg) Dead Moon.

Worst live show was Beck at Bumbershoot in (I think) 1998. Saw Sonic Youth the same day and they were also horrid. (I’ve actually seen worse bands, of course, but I wasn’t expecting anything from them.)

My favorite album to listen to in the dark is this random compilation of really excellent 60s surf bands.It’s got the big ones (Ventures, Sentinels, the Centurions) and a bunch of other bands I’ve never heard of. Great relaxing music. “Redheaded Stranger” is also a great album to listen to in the dark.

When I’m in a bad mood I don’t generally listen to music that’s likely to make me smile.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

the bumbershoot with Beck, Sonic Youth, and Hole? that was 1995, I was there.

It was my first summer working a crappy job and worked all summer and that was the only summer event I went to.
Sinead O’Connor and Pavement did really good shows actually.

by mark sobba on Jan 17, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, this was a different year.

Sonic Youth played with Sleater-Kinney and Built to Spill. Hole didn’t play.

It was 1997 because I remember hearing about Princess Diana dying while we were driving back after the show.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That was 95 Lollapalooza w/ Beck, Hole, Sonic Youth, etc.

I remember I started to walk to a different stage when Sinead came on, but I was so impressed by how good she was, I stuck around for the entire set.

"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin

by Jed MC on Jan 18, 2009 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I was hyping Sonic Youth live shows to a friend of mine for weeks before that Bumbershoot

I spent about a week apologizing for how shitty it was afterwards.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 17, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

In case you don't know the story behind that;

One Reel asked Sonic Youth to play and they declined. One Reel offered Sonic Youth a shit ton of money; they declined. One Reel offered them even more money. Sonic Youth agreed to play on the condition that Sleater-Kinney and Built to Spill opened for them. Sleater-Kinney and Built to Spill were scheduled to be on tour in Europe at the time, which means Sonic Youth knew full well Sleater-Kinney and Built to Spill couldn’t play.One Reel somehow delivered, and Sonic Youth responded by playing the worst set anyone has ever seen Sonic Youth play.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

What year was that?

I remember going to a less than impressive Sonic Youth show at bumbershoot but I know it wasn’t 1997. I was unaware of the cool that was bumbershoot back then.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 17, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah definitely not the year I went

The told the audience all their equipment got stolen and therefore they had to improvise. I wanna say it was like 99-00 or something.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 17, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not know this story.

I’m still pissed about the show, though. If Sonic Youth had a beef with One Reel why take it out on the fans?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 17, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Amendment:

The Country Teasers “Satan is Real Again” album makes me smile when I’m in a bad mood. Anyone who doesn’t smile at a line like

“Women are the Germans of humor/Said John Morgan/And I believe it is also true/That we are the Hitler of comedy/And everybody else is the jew.”

The entire album is an ode to misanthropy and it’s awesome.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

All right...

1. I don’t know about a specific band covering a song, but I’d like to hear Radiohead’s “Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box” played on pots and pans and other kitchen utensils.

2. Classic rock isn’t my specialty. I find “Blonde on Blonde” and “Highway 61 Revisited” to hold up pretty well, but I don’t know how the average listener approaches some of the nonsensical lyrics, Dylan’s singing style, and the excessive rhyme. I think “Trout Mask Replica” by Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band is probably still as popular as it ever was and will be, which is saying very little, but that it was released in 1969 and to this day is still only possibly listenable (I can do it, most can’t seem to) says something.

3. I have to admit, I haven’t been to nearly as many concerts as I’d like. Best concert? I saw The Pixies when they came through Bumbershoot. It wasn’t an incredible set or anything, mostly Death to the Pixies plus a few other “hits”, but to see the songs live and the band seeming to enjoy themselves somehow made it worth it, even if I was fending off thrashing drunks at various points. Worst might be when I saw Interpol at the Paramount a few years ago. Blonde Redhead opened and they were a hell of a lot better. Interpol just sort of slogged their way through most of the songs and didn’t seem to care but for a few tracks from Turn on the Bright Lights (and I don’t think they’ve really done anything worthwhile since).

4. Lately, it’s been Gavin Bryars’ “The Sinking of the Titanic”, the ‘95 version, when I’m studying late at night. It’s this slow moving orchestral thing that incorporates a lot of static and slowly developing motifs. With about twenty-five minutes left the orchestra burst out from the background and really goes to town. Otherwise, I still can’t help but listening to Charles Mingus’ “The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady” and I get into kicks where it’s all I listen to for about two weeks. Frank Sinatra’s “In The Wee Small Hours” is also a great nocturnal album, but the songwriting is pretty horrible at times. Not his fault.

5. Usually anything by The Lounge Lizards or Soul Coughing.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 17, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

I almost went to see that Interpol show.

I had never heard of them but I saw Blonde Redhead was opening. Then I found out how much it cost. I went to see the A-Frames for $5 at the Funhouse instead. I think I made the right choice.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh, Soul Coughing.

You can’t help but feel good when seeing this.

I can’t wait for the eventual reunion.

by James F'n X on Jan 17, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see a reunion

Doughty seems to have really distanced himself from a lot of that. Can’t really blame him, he had a pretty serious drug problem back then.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 17, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy fuck - what a tragedy last night at the monster truck rally.

Those ignorant prick commenters on the PI wave it off as a redneck sport, but I’ll be damned if my educated ass didn’t take Silas to a monster truck rally down in South Carolina recently. Accidents happen at sporting events all the time, and unfortunately this one was absolutely heartbreaking.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 17, 2009 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

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Here

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 17, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps some of you may view ME as the ignorant one,

but slapping these idiots down has been entertaining.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 17, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow that sucks.

his seems like more than just an accident though. Looks like they new the truck wasn’t in good condition.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Wicked cold?

It was 58 degrees and sunny in western Nebraska today

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by Corco on Jan 17, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

All I hear is bitching about the cold temps all over.

Meanwhile it is damn near thirty degrees on the Arctic coast.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking of you earlier today as I watched some heavy machinery building an ice road.

I would have snapped some pictures but my BlackBerry has a shitty camera. Livejournalish I know, but I remembered you saying you liked to see construction.

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by thewyrm on Jan 17, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That would have been pretty sick

Thanks anyway

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by Corco on Jan 17, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

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There are no good individual basketball statistics.
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by joof on Jan 17, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

Respuestos(Answers)

1. I’d like to see Radiohead cover Bowie’s “Space Oddity”

2.I dunno, I get the feeling Boston’s first album “Boston” might be pretty popular if released today. Some of those songs are so damn catchy.

3. Best concert I’ve ever been to was Radiohead at the Gorge in 2001. The Beta Band opened for them. I had my doubts on how the material from Kid A and Amnesiac would hold up live. Lesson to me: Never doubt Radiohead. A close second was Mastodon at El Corazon. For the encore the covered The Melvins “Hooch”, I loved that becuase often when people come to Seattle they throw out some obligatory Nirvana cover. Playing “Hooch” gave their NW cred a major boost.

4. Worst concert I’ve ever been to, this has two answers. The worst one I’ve ever been at was the Hannah Montana and Jonas Brother at the Key Arena. My ears were bleeding due to the glass shattering falsetto of thousands of screaming girls. I was working there that night so I think that kinda doesn’t count. Maybe, the Sonic Youth show at Bumbershoot I mentioned earlier.

5. I like the answer of “Dark Side of the Moon”. In a semi-similar vein I’d say “Kid A” is a fantastic album to listen to with the lights out.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 17, 2009 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

Radiohead covering Space Oddity would be just about the most perfect thing.

And the Eagles, their entire catalog from the ’70’s would be so much better than just about everything they call country music today. Keith Urban with his pretty boy hair singing about… whatever the hell it is, not country. Or that other Keith singing about beer for his horses while draped in the flag, this new stuff (mainstream) makes me gag.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 18, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's see...

Japanese noise punk in small-ish venue.

I can see where that would be an experience to remember. Provided you don’t get a migraine.

I almost went to that show, and now I’m sad that I missed it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 18, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

So has news of KAKA's potential transfer made it to the USA yet?!

This could be a great offseason for my teams … KAKA AND, um, Shelton-Unit!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 6:57 AM PST reply actions  

I take it the money isn't much of a concern to you...

I’d actually like to hear a City fan’s opinion of the situation if you don’t mind. Quite a few of my friends have been calling it the second coming of Abramovich.

by Scrupio on Jan 18, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I want us to become an unholy Yankees/Man United club that dominates for a thousand years and ruins the sport.

I have no problem with us doing this. Any other club and I would have a beef with it – but because it is happening to my team I think it is the best thing ever.

Listening to United fans squirm over the figures has brought me great pleasure as they protest with straight faces that our money is ruining football – with no regard for the seemingly endless amounts of £10 million+ transfers that they have concluded down the years.

I hope City’s owners buy United, and run them into the ground and sell the Old Trafford site to a nuclear waste processing company.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

So other than Kaka who is a possibility?

I’d imagine on defense since that seems to be the biggest problem with City right now.

by Scrupio on Jan 18, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

De Jong seems like he is on his way. Buffon is also strongly rumoured.

I’d love to see David Villa up front though, that would be amazing.

I really don’t know what we will do at the back as there are a lack of talented centre backs on the market right now.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, when is SBN going to allow posting from mobile devices?

I no longer have the internet [apart from when I am at my mum’s house visiting – like I am now] but I thankfully can read LL + USSM on my blackberry. However, the prospect of not being able to engage in the GT’s come April is very worrying. Will we get mobile posting before then, oh SBN God’s?

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 7:00 AM PST reply actions  

I can post from my iPhone on the regular site.

I think as long as you enter the game thread early enough it’d be fine on a Blackberry too.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Great scott

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by Corco on Jan 18, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's a really stupid trade for the Cubs.

There’s no reason for them to give up on Pie at this point; he has fewer than 300 at bats in the majors and was a very good hitter in the minors. He’s a very good defensive player. If you believe his CHONE projection, he’s about a 2.5 win player next year. Instead the Cubs will pay Jim Edmonds and Reed Johnson 20x as much money to provide two-thirds the value. I just don’t get it.

On the other hand, this means Baltimore has too many outfielders; I wonder what it would take to get Luke Scott…

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

They started spending big awhile ago, which is annoying as fuck and something I'm starting to associate with Lou Piniella.

Which doesn’t make sense, Lou doesn’t have much to do with contracts. Just his type of manager I think, like a Joe Torre. The face of a big money team.

Just seems like this trade is one of those even up trades. Projectable 4th outfielder for a decent addition to a bullpen, looks like the Cubs could use a little punch in the bullpen. Cubs seem to be in a win-it-now mentality, can’t wait for the ‘08 M’s collapse right? I don’t style myself as a player/trade analyst by the way.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 18, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Lou's Achille's heel, if I had to pick one thing.

Is it a case of the bullpen being a greater weakness? I’m kinda shitty at comparing pitching stats, but looks like he’s a step up in their bullpen. 130 innings, what’s this guys abilities, middle relief/spot starter?

I’m not sharpshooting you here, I’m more trying to dial in my eyes & perception/vs. my interpretation of the statistics.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 18, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Middle relief/spot starter, yeah.

He’s not terrible, but he’s not worth anything close to Pie.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Umm...holy shit the Arizona Cardinals are TRUCKIN' right now....

…I can’t believe they’re looking like a Superbowl team. THE ARIZONA CARDINALS??

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Jan 18, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Whatever.

1.) I’m not really a Seahawks fan anyway.
2.) But I don’t want to poke anyone in a sore spot.
3.) This is still pretty awesome for AZ regardless. The Seahawks have at least put together some respectable seasons in recent years. The Cardinals have been the laughingstock of Professional Football for over 50 years. Well, maybe the Lions moreso, but the Cards too.

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by esoteric on Jan 18, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll bite:

Cover:
I wanna see SK play Long Live Rock in the arrangement the Who were playing it in on the 1979 tour. It’d be perfect for them.

Album:
AC/DC Back in Black. I’m not that big of a fan and I’m sick of this record, but I think I’m the only one.

Best shows I’ve seen:
The Who at the Gorge in 2002 (transcendent), PJ @ the Gorge in 2005, and night 1 in 2006, Bruce Springsteen in Portland last March. Worst show? I dunno if I’ve even seen a bad headliner, but I know I’ve seen the Counting Crows open for someone at the Gorge and the Crows sucked shit; they seemed very sad and lethargic.

In the Dark:
Audioslave’s first record.

One song:
Don’t Look Back

Bonus:
Best Side A of any record: Badmotorofinger
Best side B … Abbey Road

by JI on Jan 18, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

I don't like any Brian Johnson era AC/DC very much, except the live album.

I could never hear anything off of Back In Black again and be perfectly okay with it.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Audioslave

I knew they wouldn’t last, but I gotta say I enjoyed Audioslave more than I did either Soundgarden or RATM. I wish we could have had two more albums from them.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 18, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The quality of their albums fell off after their first record

I was happy they broke up and that Cornell was going solo. Little did I know that Cornell would try to make the most unintentionally hilarious album in history.

by JI on Jan 18, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Matter of taste, but BMF/SuperUnknown is my line of demarcation. "used to be" is everything before

 I like “Seasons” as much as anything on Superunknown or BMF. I was thinking he was more prolific as a solo artist, but I fucked up and half the songs I was thinking of as solo work are on Temple of the Dog.
I don’t particularly like his new stuff, or Audioslave. I’ll still buy his next solo album, hope it doesn’t suck.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 18, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

EM is really good, and Carry on is solid too

but their not in the league of songwriting/arrangement as his work with SG

by JI on Jan 18, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They're all ballady and make me want to pick flowers or something.

Stone Temple Pilots did this me when they got back to their roots with #4, then took it all back with Shangri La-Di Da. I really didn’t want to hear him singing about how great it is to be a father.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 18, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a ridiculous comparison because STP sucks hard and Soundgarden's best works are very "arty", especially compared to most heavy metal

They’re supposed to be ballady, most of the good Soundgarden songs are ballady in one way or another, people just tend to notice it less because it’s put over heavy music . Cornell is a very versatile singer and he didn’t want to sing all heavy metal all the time (a big reason why SG broke up), and wanted to try different things because he is crazy talented and capable of mastering many genres.

by JI on Jan 18, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Belated answers

What song would you like to see covered by a particular band and why?
I have a love/hate relationship with covers. I hate the theory of them, and 75% of the time I hate their execution, but there are some that are so good that I go “man, why didn’t I think of that?”. I can’t sit here and say “I’d love Song X to be covered by Band Y”, though, because most of the songs I love, I love because of the artist performing them. So I’ll take the 5th on this question.

What classic album, if released today, would still be just as popular now as it was then?
The Rolling Stones, Sticky Fingers.

Best and Worst live concert you have attended.
There are waaaaaaaaay too many answers to this question. So:

Best Arena-size show
: Bruce Springsteen, Oakland Coliseum, 1987. Nearly five hours of non-stop end-to-end rock solid music. I was in awe at what a top-tier performer can do.

Best Mid-Size type show: Sleater-Kinney, The Orpheum, Boston 2002. I was left a quivering wreck at the end of this show. S-K at the peak of their powers.

Best Club Show:
Oh dear lord this is tough. If I had to name one, it’d probably be…man, I can’t do it. There are several Fastbacks shows I’d put on this list, a couple Dead Moon shows, at least one YFF show (McCaughey’s 40th b-d show), and the three nights I saw Cheap Trick at the Crocodile are right up there too. I can’t name just one.

Favorite album to pop in and listen to in the dark.
Billy Bragg, William Bloke. Or Radiohead’s The Bends.

That one song that no matter how bad a mood you are, will always make you smile?
“In The Summer”, Fastbacks. No question.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 18, 2009 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, and worst live concerts

As a headliner, the above-mentioned Sonic Youth was pretty bad, which was annoying. Also as a headliner, Methods of Mayhem, but I knew that was going to be bad so I’m not sure it counts. The last time I saw Horton Heat was really dull, but it wasn’t “bad” per se; it was just rote.

As an opening act, I’ve seen The Spin Doctors, I’ve seen that band that does that “mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm” song, I’ve seen interpretive poetry set to music, I’ve seen a juggler, and I’ve seen Baby Gramps. The best I can hope for from an opening band I’ve never heard is mediocrity; if I’m pleasantly surprised, that’s great, and that’s happened a few times.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 18, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Of all the concerts I have seen only four opening acts were worth a damn.

Spacehog opened for Aerosmith and they were decent. Some nobody band from Texas called Rhythm child who opened for Blues Traveller and were better than the headliner. My buddy Matt Hopper’s band Roman Candles who opened for Gin Blossoms. And PJ Harvey who opened for U2 and was phenomenal.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 18, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

What I want to see in MLB 09 The Show:

- Accurate pitch tracker al la pitch f/x that can be accessed on demand. I want to see exactly where my pitch went and how much break/speed it had.

- Pitch speeds to the nearest tenth of a mph e.g. 93.9 instead of 94 [better to track RTTS speed progress and pitcher fatigue].

- More stats: WPA/LI couldn’t be too hard to impliment, and my understanding is that some broadcasters in USA already use a similar system on air.

- If the above used: LI influencing achievment bonuses in RTTS.

- wOBA!

- More accurate fielding from the AI with better animations.

Some of my other wishes, e.g. waivers, salary arb. and 40 man rosters have already been confirmed!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

I find Road to the Show infuriating in general and have never been able to get into it.

I think it’s a great idea but I hate the execution. Having to improve things that I don’t give a shit about (I have to spend 250 training points on drag bunting? Really?) kills it for me.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always wanted to see Tears For Fears try U2’s “Angels of Harlem”, though given they’re well past their prime, it may not be a good idea now.

It’s tough to say what albums of years past would be hits now given the impact of their albums is largely contextual. I’d have to say Michael Jackson’s Thriller would be a hit today if released cold turkey in 2009.

Bright Eyes did a show at the old Cafe Espresso Roma in Las Vegas that was particularly impressive.

Speaking of Roma, I saw a LOT of $5 shows and free shows there, and I can’t really hone on one particularly bad one out of the bunch, because lord knows there were a LOT of them.

Best In the Dark album has to be Mezzanine by Massive Attack.

Best pick me up song has to be anything by Lil John & the Eastside Boyz, obviously :P

by Gomez on Jan 18, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

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