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I'm Done Lurking -- M's Front Office Employee

Let me preface this by saying that, yes, I work for the Mariners -- in the Marketing Department. I've already been raked over the coals here before, albeit anonymously. I was the dumbass responsible for the spelling error on the Richie Sexson clip in the Ask the Mariners which was released last year. Caught a lot of grief for that one.

No, I really don't get information any faster than anyone on this site does. Usually, I get the Press Release about 5 minutes before I see it up here. (Trust me, I've timed it.)

I've been lurking around this place for about 2 and a half years, now. I'm not a statistician, but I understand the benefits in statistical analysis -- and these reasons brought me here to learn more. Jeff's, Graham's, Matthew's and everyone else's witty observations and snark also make this favorite reading for just plain ol' hilarity.

Normally, I would just go on about lurking and laughing and talking about you behind your backs (a lot of people at the Mariners browse through here, and some of the photos and comments are sources of great joy to us.) But, today I come to you with my hat in my hand.

Since I've been here a little bit, I 've seen some of the less-than-Mariners-related content that goes down, and I have a request.

My brother is involved in a radio contest in St. Louis to win a free wedding. He is in the final round of that contest right now, and due to some shady judging as a part of the on-air portion of the contest, he and his fiancee are currently trialing by 1500 votes.

I seem to remember that either Robert or Corco have a certain skillset that allows them to...ahem....dictate the results of these online votes. (I held my tongue when a certain regular on this site managed to "win" the Baby Ruth Take Me Out To The Ballgame contest, thankyouverymuch) I was hoping to convince them to champion my cause.

As for what I offer in return -- well, I won't do anything that gets me fired (we do have some confidentiality rules around here), but I can offer any insight into some issues that may arise, and I can be used as a source as to help understanding the philosophies that drive the Marketing side of the team.

So, if anyone here can be of help, I would greatly appreciate it.

And for the record -- everyone here is very excited about the direction that Jack Zduriencik is taking us. The man and his team are tireless workers and they have nothing but the intent on building a perennial contender out of the Seattle Mariners.

 

Poll Linky

 

They're Couple #3 -- Scott & Betsey. If nothing else, just vote for them, please!

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I edited the Fanpost.

It has it at the bottom. My brother and his fiancee are Couple #3. Scott and Betsey.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I dunno.

They’ve got all kinds of crazy IP regulations and type-in confirmation codes. They are giving away a free wedding.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I've known weddings that cost more than 10K.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Mine, unfortunately. We both wish we had eloped.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry - that's waaay more LLLJ than I had intended.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Might not have helped.

My brother eloped, but then his wife’s family insisted they had to fly to Morocco to have a proper wedding, which involved 6 weeks in Morocco, and at least two sacrificial sheep.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No shit

I was talking to a friend last night at dinner and they said the caterers wanted 11,000 for their least expensive dinner plan (only feeds 100 people and basic menu)

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jan 16, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeez.

I need to charge more for weddings!

I know I give away my photography, pretty much, but the caterers’ products/services last, what, ~8 hours. The photography, along with the rings, generally last longer than the marriages!

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The annoying thing about catering service is the price is generally 2 and half times their normal event price.

Probably some great explanations for that, but that much of a mark-up? Are you kidding?

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 16, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Basic economics

People will pay it so they can charge it.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 16, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Except for video editing.

Everything else they’ll pay through the nose. Wedding videos they’ll haggle every last detail.

"What’s this $50 fee for microphones?

"You would like to hear your vows, right?

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame women

Men are too rational to pay that type of markup. We’d probably suggest a deep fried turkey when we learned how much catering would cost.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 16, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds delicious

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Weddings are a "rite of passage" for women.

“White Weddings” by Ingraham is a good start to understanding the concept.

by mark sobba on Jan 17, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn't make them any less stupid.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 27, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

A friend of mine in college made good money on the side

by working as a photographer at weddings. I think he got paid way more doing wedding photos than he did for any of his sports photo work.

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Jan 16, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I shoot small weddings.

I charge 500$ as a base rate.
I get 75$ for actor head shots.
I almost never sell my sports photos.

by mark sobba on Jan 17, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The paper I work for recently had a feature that was basically "how to have a wedding for $10,000."

I thought that was a bit high, but my girlfriend and every other woman I know laughed at me. Apparently $10,000 is fairly low.

by Teej on Jan 16, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Wifey can spend as much as she wants on the wedding

It only happens once, may as well splurge if she wants. I’m content with doing a cheap plain clothes backyard marriage

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Jan 17, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That's totally bogus.

I figure that wedding is half about me, so the budget for my stuff should be the same as the budget for her stuff.

If she wants to spend $6000 on clothing, then I will too. I’ll be the Count of Montre Cristo out there.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

You figure incorrectly

A wedding is about 5% related to the groom. I’m not being sexist, I’m just stating a fact – my wife is one of the least girly women you’ll ever meet, but when we were doing our wedding, she went all bride-crazy – not not bridezilla-y, but I definitely didn’t have to do much more than just show up, remember my lines (“I do” being the extent of most of them) and not fall over.

I should stress that this is by no means a bad thing – I had a great day. But I was not at all under the impression that the day had much to do with me. Pre-ceremony, I was drinking beer with my groomsmen while my wife was stressing out over pretty much everything.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 19, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If that's what she's like, I'm not marrying her.

As it happens, there’s no real risk of me getting married anyway. My girlfriend and I have been together for 7 years, we have a little girl, and we own a home. I object to marriage on the basis of privacy, and she’s afraid of commitment. So we’re not getting married.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I've often thought the wedding was more about the mother-in-law.

Every friend that’s had a big wedding has wound up consoling the wife when her mother winds up taking over the planning. I think this might be the point in the relationship where men and MIL’s start to have problems.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 19, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Unless you’re careful to maintain separate addresses from which you file your tax return. Then they don’t notice.

But either way I avoid the big ceremony.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I would argue that your girlfriend is not actually afraid of commitment

if you have a kid and own a house together.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 19, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

She didn't have to promise anything to do those things, though.

Trust me on this. Big commitment-phobe.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank god

my wife was reasonable. We spent $5K for our wedding all said and told. She’d sooner spent the left over money on stuff for us instead of the wedding.

by chrisisasavage on Jan 17, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to a wedding on New Year's Eve

and the wedding cost over $120k (it was black tie too). Beautiful wedding except the food was buffet style turkey, ham and mashed potatoes. I thought the food was a strange choice for that particular wedding.

by HyphenFan on Jan 17, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dave got $11,000.

I think that worked out pretty well.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, in a roundabout way, yes.

But I somehow doubt that the “fundraising drive” option is on the table here.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't seen much about them yet...

But I know that we shot one here at the ballpark with Ichiro taking night BP. Usually, we have the ad agency write up about 10 different ones, and we narrow them down to 5-7. We shoot them at Spring Training, mostly. But, since Ichi is going to be in the WBC, he won’t be there for the shoots.

Funny story: Last year’s “Fungo” spot was originally written for 2007, but the management canned it because they didn’t think any of the players would go for it. The VP showed it to J.J. Putz and he got very excited and said he would get some guys to do it, so we shot it the following year.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Another commercials question...

At FanFest a few years ago, I gave Felix a copy of this photo I took (and subsequently Photoshopped):

Actually I believe his interpreter or someone from the marketing department took it, since Felix was too busy signing autographs to take it himself (although he really really liked it and laughed at it). When “the commercial” showed up a few months later, a lot of us thought it was more than coincidental…

Now, I’m not coming after anyone for idea infringement or anything, I just wasn’t the only one that did a double-take upon seeing my photo and the commercial…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The commercial script/concept

had been approved well before FanFest. They usually get submitted around Christmas or so. Nice PhotoShop work, though.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Do Rick Rizzs' eyebrows move by themselves?

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

Your brother is the only guy in the contest

who doesn’t look like a complete dildo. Couple #5 are… sweet mother of god those people should not reproduce.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

I don't know

Big Mustache dude in couple 2 looks like he could be a winner

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jan 16, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He already said they do.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I should have phrased that better.

Does anyone really high up in the org. read the site?

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably.

I doubt they lose a lot of sleep at night if they get ripped here, though. I don’t think Bill Bavasi ever went home at night and worried that Jeff was going to call him an idiot.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

At the LL/USSM meet and greet they guests basically said: You keep writting. You never know when we will read it.

by mark sobba on Jan 17, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to do it...

but read the post man. He specifically says they do.

by TheTank123 on Jan 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Are they down to just two couples now (#3 and #4).

That is that is showing for me. Good luck! And I hope they are able to pull it out.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Yes.

They got jobbed in the on-air segment today. Some hack of The Newlywed Game. Wouldn’t accept “Arrogance” as a substitute for “Cockiness.” Dumb.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that came from the Director.

We’ve actually played that for him before almost all his home starts since early 2007.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

Right as the team takes the field, we play animations and Hutlyer announces the player/position. After announcing the pitcher (Hernandez) we usually play the song that either: 1.) He has requested (Felix asked for some Latin hip-hop song that sounds like a chipmunk), or 2.) a song of our choosing that fits the night/weather/etc. One day in 2007, we played that song, and he pitched well, so we play it for him unless he wants the chipmunk song.

At least, I think that’s how the story goes. I know we play it before his starts a whole lot.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly the first time I saw it on here before Felix Day...

I thought that someone had heard it in the park either in person or over the FSN broadcast, then ran with it because, seriously, WTF?

I love that song, and I’m happy people associate it with Felix.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Weird too that I never remember hearing it at the park until that time I told you.

Robert, you’ve probably been to more Felix home starts than anyone and have a memory beyond comparison, any memories of this?

by Matthew on Jan 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, somewhere around there.

I remember thinking that it was funny that you put it up, and were getting on board with it. We get all geeked-out when stuff we do organically catches on.

Unfortunately, I find out now, that it wasn’t our doing, and you just put it up because. Crap.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I missing something, or is it possible.....

…that the Director he quotes as the origin for the song earlier in the thread may have gotten it from LL?

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait wrong one.

The episode where Marge gets a crazy friend and Police Chief Wiggum and Homer go chasing after her and end up in a land fill?

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It was played twice in the episode..

..where Marge and her new zany friend go on a run with her ex husband’s stolen car. First her friend mistakenly plays it hoping for rock music when they leave to go out at first, and Wiggum plays it….intentionally while chasing them.

Ah, Simpsons.

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Her friend is Ruth Powers

and she wasn’t new. She was introduced in the 4th season in the episode when Bart gets a crush on her daughter, who ends up dating Jimbo Jones until Bart crank calls Moe and leaves his address causing Moe to storm in wielding a knife, threatening Jimbo, who breaks down crying.

by Matthew on Jan 16, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Laura's voice was done by Sara Gilbert.

Sara is much better known as Darlene from Rosanne.

"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin

by Jed MC on Jan 16, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And has a much more famous big half-sister.

Laura Ingalls Wilder ring a bell?

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure she's so much "famous"

as “hey I think she was in some show about the prairie 50 years ago” at this point.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

And got it, 1991-95

but that doesn’t make her famous to a generation that didn’t grow up watching Little House On The Praire – past presidents of SAG include Barry Gordon, William Schalert, and Kathleen Nolan. All actors, none particularly famous.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

or currently

as physicist Leslie Winkle on the Big Bang Theory.

by msb on Jan 21, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You?

How do you think I feel? Here I was thinking that SOMETHING we did caught on in a die-hard community, and I come to find out that we were not the inspiration behind it. I’m bummed.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You'll be happy to know we picked up on

The Water Jug Irish folk songs you guys played during some extra innings games after a victory. Particularly when Eric O’Flaherty was pitching.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jan 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I'm convinced...

The M’s marketing department uses LL as their idea farm system…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

In that case my next idea

is that the M’s give free season tickets to every poster with more than 15,000 comments on LL.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

This would give him incentive.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeez.

I’ve had this screenname on here before LL even ever existed. I spend a lot of time here, and yet I’m not there either…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I concur.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Voted.

And welcome to commenting. I think you’ll find it more fun this way.

by Omerta on Jan 16, 2009 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

I dunno... that Liz girl was pretty hot

and you just never see attractive people getting rewarded

sorry, this is an issue I’m passionate about

by Freneau on Jan 16, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

It's true

and a sad fact that even in the 21 century many attractive people have to work and pay taxes just like regular ugly joes. If only someone could create a movement for a society of attractive people, where all the undesirables do all the work for them.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ayn Rand.

All the intelligent attractive people go to Galt’s Gulch, leaving all the subnormals behind.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my favorite Futurama episodes

is when they are in the sewer, and one of the mutants shows them the “library” of flushed materials.

Bender: It’s nothing but crappy porno and Ayn Rand.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My favourite joke from the Simpsons involved Maggie attending the

Ayn Rand School for Tots.

Above the blackboard was a banner that read “A is A”. Brialliant.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Also Stanley Kubrick.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Speaking of M’s-M’s Blog connections. Anyone remember this?

(Look very closely at the top)

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

That's all FSN (or in this case, CW 11) -- we've got nothing to do with it.

My guess is that came from a Sunday game. Because they would have never gotten away with that on any other day than Sunday. Plus, CW11 only did Sunday and Thursday games.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I know...

IIRC, the dude working graphics for CW11 at the time was also posting in a game thread at the time…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

No way...

Does anyone have a link to the game thread?

by Double06 on Jan 16, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my gosh.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

How do I toggle to the new posts immediately?

I’m tired of scrolling through the whole thread to find the highlighted ones.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

"z" button.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the difference between C and Z?

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

X marks it read.

Z and C are the same.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 16, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I've tested it.

Z and C are not the same.

C advances to the next yellow comment.

Z advances to the next yellow comment and marks that previous comment read.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

One is curvy, the other jagged.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you say anything about the M's marketing internships?

I hate to make this lllj-ing, but I don’t see another way to contact you, Yellow Dart.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

You can look up internship information

on Mariners.com at the bottom of the page, where it says employment. If you want more details, I can tell you that later.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I've looked that up a few times.

I guess I’m mostly interested in what a M’s marketing guy does. I’ve been working “game management” for the last couple of years working the sound system and public address for college sports. It sounded from what you wrote in here that M’s marketing people have at least a vague hand in game operations. Is that correct?

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

There's two types of Marketing Intern.

One works with the management for on-field, pregame activities and events. Usually wrangling anthem singers, first-pitch tossers, play-ball kids, etc. They also work on things like Mariners Mail, fielding calls, the Mariners Navigators and your general marketing type functions.

The other position is more game-entertainment based. Logging video, running cameras, setting up lights and sound equipment, etc. When you see camera people running around at the game, and one of them has a huge antenna coming off his back — that’s usually an intern. Sometimes not.

Both are good internships, and provide a lot of insight into an MLB marketing department. It just depends if you want to be on the production side or the marketing side of things.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I think I would like the first one.

I have also been applying around for internships as well. I currently am going to school for business over at UW of Bothell, and I am planning on concentrating in marketing/sales. One conundrum I have faced is while I am good at talking to people and convincing them to buy something, or just marketing it, I also have to be pretty knowledgeable about the product in order to market it well. So I am not completely sure what I would want to sell or market, and one thing I know I am knowledgeable about (not as smart as Jeff, Matthew, Graham, etc.) is baseball, especially the Mariners, and I thought that would be awesome. But my girlfriend’s boss (who sells wine) said it was almost impossible to get a marketing job for a baseball team unless you have connections. So, I realize Daniel (2R and 2L) already asked, but would there anyway I could get info as well? My e-mail is on my profile page.

Also, I voted for your bro.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That's ok, because I like the second one.

And I got an interview out of the call for interns that Tony Blengino made at the USSM/LL event, for which I am grateful but I really don’t know how that went.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Woa.

That is sweet. Makes me wish I really went, even though I had to work on Saturday. What position did you interview with Blengino for?

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It wasn't actually with Blengino himself, but with the video advance scouting department.

I got to watch a bunch of MLB pitches and try to determine by sight what pitch type they were.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, I don't think I would be able to pass that.

I would probably just stick with the marketing aspect. I think the Mariners do a great job marketing a piss poor team. I think the stadium helps, but they manage to get decent attendance, even last year compared to the awful product they were putting on the field. I think I could learn a lot from working under them.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a cool one.

It’s new this season, since we’re taking all the MLB Advance Scouting in-house. So, the video scouting department needed some help.

It can be really tough to get an internship here. There are a lot of applicants. We usually do 3 Marketing Interns and 3 Production Interns per season.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh jeez, so I guess having a connection would really help out.

Even though I wouldn’t ask you to help if it was too much on your part. Do you know when the application deadlines are for the internships, and whether they are paid or not?

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea I just checked that out.

But I am thinking, something like this on my resume would look golden if I should get this internship. I was thinking I could probably wait tables or something like that 3 or 4 days a week, and then do the Mariners thing at night.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

How old are you?

If you are below 18ish, you could get a similar job with them as a fielder. I did it for 3 years and I loved it but it wasnt really anything more than a part time job salary wise.

by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I am actually 19.

Will be 20 years old by the summer time. At this point, I am looking more for something I can put on my resume that is business related for the future, rather than the pay I would be getting at the moment. And especially something like the marketing department for the Seattle Mariners should grab employer’s attentions.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a huge fan of not getting paid either

but really when it comes down to it, are you going to turn down a job you love because the pay’s not there? The internship I interviewed for is paid, but I would pretty much do it for free (so long as I can find a way to live somewhere not my parents’).

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

And if I am good at it enough and I love it, I am sure the money would come my way eventually.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I don't think waiting tables is such a bad thing

I kinda live for customer service. The only thing is that I don’t want it to be a career.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, of course

But it is a good temporary fall back plan to have if you get laid off from your real job, or if you want to work weekends or something like that for extra cash later on when you get a real job. That’s the way I look at it.

And the customer service is something I also find myself surprising good at too. I think all I need is to find something that I would be good at selling. For example, I don’t think I would be good at selling medical machinery because I don’t have the slightest clue about it. But marketing baseball would be basically a dream job for me.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Corco at your service

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I've been asking the same thing.

I think that if you can just close the gap, they’d be happy. Right now, they’re dealing with a 1500-point deficit.

The voting ends Sunday.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

1500 point?

2000 votes coming right up

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I just cast my vote

but I have no skills so I only voted once.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh shit

Does it require the word verification every time?

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never had to deal with that before

I can’t manually enter 2000 votes from 2000 unique IPs (well, i could, but that’s it’s not worth the dozens of hours it would take).

I need to figure out how to automate that which is a bit of a challenge

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It also marks your IP address so you can only vote from it once a day.

Which really sucks at work, because we’re on a gateway and it shows half the office as one IP. This thing wouldn’t even be close if everyone at work could vote.

They just added the word verification on Wednesday. I guess they planned for this sorta thing.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

After the last voting nightmare I acquired automated proxy form spoofing abilities

And mailinator can provide an insanely large number of valid emails, but I’m not sure how to get around word verification

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch.

Well, if anyone can do it — I’m sure you can. If not, well, then I guess my brother will have to break off the engagement and move to the Utah desert to live out his days in the shame of not winning a radio contest…

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Where can we see the results

I can’t see where it says whether or not your bro is catching up

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by Trenchtown on Jan 16, 2009 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

They don't display them.

Probably because they want the option of being able to job the results if needs be. Shady — but a part of the business.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone.

I get to drive to Hood River now. Remember, keep voting!

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

I love Hood River.

Kitesurfing near the Gorge is awesome.

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Two words:

Springhouse Cellars.

Actually there are several Hood River wineries that are FANTASTIC. Pheasant Valley; Cathedral Ridge…

When I think of Hood River, I think of wine. Lots and lots of wine…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

So as far as first posts go

this has been pretty fantastic. Way to go. I’ll vote for your bro from ~5 computers a day.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing..

Much better than most of the lurkers around here

by seattlesundevil on Jan 16, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of LFOJL's first post and I mean that in the best possible way.

Very intelligent and clearly showed that he lurked for a while. The best way to ease into the community.

by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think my first post was something like that.

But I had read USSMariner regularly for about a year before I found Lookout Landing.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I remembered mine..

It was probably filled with biased opinions and jokes that didn’t go anywhere, but which I assumed everyone would get.

I probably should have lurked longer.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 16, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure my first post was hidden,

And I’m pretty sure it was just me yelling about how Bavasi was a moron and if the rumored Jones trade went through that he was a retard. Of course, this was the first rumor, that involved Jones and Triunfel, so I just jumped right in and was obnoxious. Then I lurked for a couple months before easing myself in, so that worked alright I guess.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you

make Dave Sims go away? Or at least talk to someone who can? Dear god make it stop.

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by mlbnotebook on Jan 16, 2009 9:52 PM PST reply actions  

You just stepped on the wrong foot

Dave Sims is the best announcer in Seattle sports right now. I love Neihaus like I love a grandparent but Sims is beyond awesome.

by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Sims is great at both baseball and football.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 17, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Sims

is good at football, but he makes too many obviously stupid remarks in baseball.

-Zach Sanders
http://www.mlbnotebook.com

by mlbnotebook on Jan 17, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Sims' commentary is light years smarter than most play-by-play guys.

Baseball broadcasting is about straddling the line between engaging casual fans and keeping hardcore fans interested in what you have to say. Sims is way better at it than most.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Sims is amazing at both

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jan 20, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Buhner in the booth!

Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!

by mark sobba on Jan 17, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It was brought up last year, IIRC...

He was pretty candid in saying that the FSN folks weren’t all to excited to invite him back or something.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 18, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Ron Fairly sometimes.

I don’t know why. He had his annoying times but he wasn’t awful.

by Mariner John on Jan 19, 2009 2:12 AM PST up reply actions  

yellow dart..

sent in a m’s commercial idea last fall.
got a e-mail back that said they would share it with those who make the decisions.
it was signed…mariners marketing and promotions.
the idea “basic” was superman runs into safeco,jumps into a phone both and comes out in uniform as rrs(since rrs resembles clark kent) and he’s ready to save the m’s.

anything? or is that different marketing ?

by filthyfred on Jan 16, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions  

This is fantastic

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 17, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, FilthyFred

There is no doubt in my mind that the 2009 LL RotY award has already been wrapped up.

by katal on Jan 18, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It's ok.

Nobody remembers the past ROTYs anyway.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 20, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought LFOJL died due to clam related injuries?

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 21, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. Yep. People were right...

You can turn off the computer, but this place will always folow you.

Well, after a good day of snowboarding, I’m off to celebrate my birthday. If anyone wants to get me a birthday present - VOTE FOR MY BROTHER!!! Please!

I’ll try and get back to everyone about internships and comercials and Dave Sims after I polish off a bottle of Pendelton whiskey. I hear that type of behavior is encouraged around here….

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 17, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

Yellow Dart

I want to come to Safeco this year to catch a series or two, but I would like to sit behind homeplate in the Diamond club for a Felix start. When I was last in the states I had no luck in scoring these seats. Is there anyone at the club I could email to help with this? I don’t mind paying a little over face value if needed – I just want to watch Felix up close!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 7:07 AM PST reply actions  

Diamond section is a tough one.

Sitting right next to diamond club or right behind diamond club is actually doable.

Step 1) Get tickets as soon as you can from Ticketmast. (Stubhub also has tickets but for 3x the price.)
Step 2) Go to the exchange window before the game. (Across from the parking garage) Between 1 hour to 1 and a half hours before game time tickets not sold or given out by the club are once again open to the public to be sold. Exchange your ticket and ask for “closest to the field behind home plate”.
Step 3) Talk to the scalpers across the street by the parking garage if all else fails.

This is what I do to get tickets. I usually get tickets right behind home plate or right next to the dugout. But it also depends on who they are playing and what day of the week it is.

Finally, let everyone here know you are coming and maybe someone can hook you up for your visit. Based off the day, I might even be able to help.

by mark sobba on Jan 18, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You could go to Fan Fest and win one of the trivia games.

You get to choose any game in the first week of April, so you might have a scheduling conflict. They usually ask stupid questions like “who led the NL in home runs last year.” You get a bunch of other stuff for free too.

by Double06 on Jan 18, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Go to a Mariners game when they play at Oakland

You can probably find the equivelant ticket from a scalper for about $40

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 18, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

She's already flying from England.

One American city looks the same as another.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

EnglishMariner

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

According to GTE, he does have girl parts.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That might be why I though he was female.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 19, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

It's OK

I made the same mistake back in like April.

by Fin on Jan 19, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Gawd that was a phenomenal recap..

Thanks for linking back to it.. Now my roommates thing I am demonic for laughing in the dark.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 20, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a guy!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jan 25, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

So my brother didn't win...

But that’s okay. Thanks to everyone who voted and/or tried to game the system. It is appreciated.

EnglishMariner — I’ll talk to the people in the Ticket Office about getting some DC seats. You’ll probably have to pay full price for them, and depending on how well the team is doing, they might be full with their ticket holders, but I can try.

Now to prepare for FanFest.

by The Yellow Dart on Jan 20, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

So this might be a good place to ask:

Has the FanFest schedule been released anywhere? If not, any chance you could help us out, Yellow Dart? I want to know how late I should sleep in on Saturday without missing anything good.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 21, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

From my experience...

It’s typically not released until the day of – as in something you can only get inside the gates or right before it. Of course there’s no one worth waiting in line for at 7 a.m. like I’ve done in years past to make sure I get an autograph ticket for.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 21, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow! I wonder if YellowDart had anything to do with this...

FanFest Q&A actually posted!

Interestingly, HowChuck are NOT scheduled for a Dugout Dialogue session this year, neither Saturday nor Sunday. First time since I can remember…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

.

Q&A schedule

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by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm. Finally.

After all these years of telling them to SHUT THE HELL UP, it seems as if they’re finally listening.

The real litmus test?

Ken. Griffey. Junior.

If the M’s sign him, it’s very likely because of them and not Zduriencik…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, recommended fanposts are back.

Yippee!

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Suggesting that we must find a balance between line breaks, which expand, and contractions, which condense.
Truly, a deep concept." ----- Matthew Carruth

by .Taylor on Jan 26, 2009 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

I've always wondered...

what grade did you get on that Englilish Paper anyways, Kyle?

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Canned or Dry,
We Neva Die.

by Zonis on Jan 27, 2009 1:59 AM PST reply actions  

/vote and /rec

Though I still like to think I won that certain contest out of my sheer force of will – doubtful any of the other contestants wanted it as badly as I did ;-) Then again, you probably have access to things like IP numbers associated with votes, timing, referral sites, etc… that I don’t.

Free Stephen "Awesome" Strasburg!

by seattlecougar on Jan 27, 2009 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Well shoot

Should have realized voting was closed before I said I’d throw my hat in the ring… Sorry to hear your brother didn’t win.

Free Stephen "Awesome" Strasburg!

by seattlecougar on Jan 27, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

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