I'm Done Lurking -- M's Front Office Employee
Let me preface this by saying that, yes, I work for the Mariners -- in the Marketing Department. I've already been raked over the coals here before, albeit anonymously. I was the dumbass responsible for the spelling error on the Richie Sexson clip in the Ask the Mariners which was released last year. Caught a lot of grief for that one.
No, I really don't get information any faster than anyone on this site does. Usually, I get the Press Release about 5 minutes before I see it up here. (Trust me, I've timed it.)
I've been lurking around this place for about 2 and a half years, now. I'm not a statistician, but I understand the benefits in statistical analysis -- and these reasons brought me here to learn more. Jeff's, Graham's, Matthew's and everyone else's witty observations and snark also make this favorite reading for just plain ol' hilarity.
Normally, I would just go on about lurking and laughing and talking about you behind your backs (a lot of people at the Mariners browse through here, and some of the photos and comments are sources of great joy to us.) But, today I come to you with my hat in my hand.
Since I've been here a little bit, I 've seen some of the less-than-Mariners-related content that goes down, and I have a request.
My brother is involved in a radio contest in St. Louis to win a free wedding. He is in the final round of that contest right now, and due to some shady judging as a part of the on-air portion of the contest, he and his fiancee are currently trialing by 1500 votes.
I seem to remember that either Robert or Corco have a certain skillset that allows them to...ahem....dictate the results of these online votes. (I held my tongue when a certain regular on this site managed to "win" the Baby Ruth Take Me Out To The Ballgame contest, thankyouverymuch) I was hoping to convince them to champion my cause.
As for what I offer in return -- well, I won't do anything that gets me fired (we do have some confidentiality rules around here), but I can offer any insight into some issues that may arise, and I can be used as a source as to help understanding the philosophies that drive the Marketing side of the team.
So, if anyone here can be of help, I would greatly appreciate it.
And for the record -- everyone here is very excited about the direction that Jack Zduriencik is taking us. The man and his team are tireless workers and they have nothing but the intent on building a perennial contender out of the Seattle Mariners.
Poll Linky
They're Couple #3 -- Scott & Betsey. If nothing else, just vote for them, please!
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You probably want Copacino + Fujikado for most of the ideas....
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Fun fact: One of their key managers used to be my boss at my ad agency job
And they will probably tell none of us anything about their ad campaign, if for no other reason because they probably have no idea themselves what they’re going to do yet.
I edited the Fanpost.
It has it at the bottom. My brother and his fiancee are Couple #3. Scott and Betsey.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Something tells me our opponents here are a little less crazy than the people at DK
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 16, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno.
They’ve got all kinds of crazy IP regulations and type-in confirmation codes. They are giving away a free wedding.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
The wedding is estimated at 20K.
But, can you really put a price tag on the value of education?
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think mine came out to 200k?
Goddamn GWs expensive.
just ask my parents
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Mine, unfortunately. We both wish we had eloped.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Sorry - that's waaay more LLLJ than I had intended.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Might not have helped.
My brother eloped, but then his wife’s family insisted they had to fly to Morocco to have a proper wedding, which involved 6 weeks in Morocco, and at least two sacrificial sheep.
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No shit
I was talking to a friend last night at dinner and they said the caterers wanted 11,000 for their least expensive dinner plan (only feeds 100 people and basic menu)
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Jeez.
I need to charge more for weddings!
I know I give away my photography, pretty much, but the caterers’ products/services last, what, ~8 hours. The photography, along with the rings, generally last longer than the marriages!
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
The annoying thing about catering service is the price is generally 2 and half times their normal event price.
Probably some great explanations for that, but that much of a mark-up? Are you kidding?
Formerly dpseadvr.
Basic economics
People will pay it so they can charge it.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 16, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Except for video editing.
Everything else they’ll pay through the nose. Wedding videos they’ll haggle every last detail.
"What’s this $50 fee for microphones?
"You would like to hear your vows, right?
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I blame women
Men are too rational to pay that type of markup. We’d probably suggest a deep fried turkey when we learned how much catering would cost.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 16, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds delicious
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Weddings are a "rite of passage" for women.
“White Weddings” by Ingraham is a good start to understanding the concept.
A friend of mine in college made good money on the side
by working as a photographer at weddings. I think he got paid way more doing wedding photos than he did for any of his sports photo work.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
I shoot small weddings.
I charge 500$ as a base rate.
I get 75$ for actor head shots.
I almost never sell my sports photos.
The paper I work for recently had a feature that was basically "how to have a wedding for $10,000."
I thought that was a bit high, but my girlfriend and every other woman I know laughed at me. Apparently $10,000 is fairly low.
We went reasonably cheap on ours and it was still over that number
and we cut A LOT of corners.
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Wifey can spend as much as she wants on the wedding
It only happens once, may as well splurge if she wants. I’m content with doing a cheap plain clothes backyard marriage
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Especially since the father of the bride is supposed to pay
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And if father of the bride doesn't pay for the wedding
or at least give me a couple goats or something as a dowry the wedding is off
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I usually realize I haven't finished my thought until about 5 minutes after I hit post
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That's totally bogus.
I figure that wedding is half about me, so the budget for my stuff should be the same as the budget for her stuff.
If she wants to spend $6000 on clothing, then I will too. I’ll be the Count of Montre Cristo out there.
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You figure incorrectly
A wedding is about 5% related to the groom. I’m not being sexist, I’m just stating a fact – my wife is one of the least girly women you’ll ever meet, but when we were doing our wedding, she went all bride-crazy – not not bridezilla-y, but I definitely didn’t have to do much more than just show up, remember my lines (“I do” being the extent of most of them) and not fall over.
I should stress that this is by no means a bad thing – I had a great day. But I was not at all under the impression that the day had much to do with me. Pre-ceremony, I was drinking beer with my groomsmen while my wife was stressing out over pretty much everything.
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by pdb on Jan 19, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If that's what she's like, I'm not marrying her.
As it happens, there’s no real risk of me getting married anyway. My girlfriend and I have been together for 7 years, we have a little girl, and we own a home. I object to marriage on the basis of privacy, and she’s afraid of commitment. So we’re not getting married.
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I've often thought the wedding was more about the mother-in-law.
Every friend that’s had a big wedding has wound up consoling the wife when her mother winds up taking over the planning. I think this might be the point in the relationship where men and MIL’s start to have problems.
Formerly dpseadvr.
I know several states have a law where if you live in that condition for x amount of time you become legally married anyway
Does that exist in Canada?
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I would argue that your girlfriend is not actually afraid of commitment
if you have a kid and own a house together.
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by pdb on Jan 19, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
She didn't have to promise anything to do those things, though.
Trust me on this. Big commitment-phobe.
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Thank god
my wife was reasonable. We spent $5K for our wedding all said and told. She’d sooner spent the left over money on stuff for us instead of the wedding.
by chrisisasavage on Jan 17, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
I went to a wedding on New Year's Eve
and the wedding cost over $120k (it was black tie too). Beautiful wedding except the food was buffet style turkey, ham and mashed potatoes. I thought the food was a strange choice for that particular wedding.
No politics.
I don’t know if you’re new here or what but I think you need to consult the LL style guide.
He's joking around with Jeff.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Man, I suck at this "Reply" thing.
It meant to be to me or Jeff? (sarcasm?)
Also — for your own info, JI — I happen to be a huge Cards fan, too. Used my connections here in 2006 to go to Game 4 of the WS.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Dave got $11,000.
I think that worked out pretty well.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Well, in a roundabout way, yes.
But I somehow doubt that the “fundraising drive” option is on the table here.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
I haven't seen much about them yet...
But I know that we shot one here at the ballpark with Ichiro taking night BP. Usually, we have the ad agency write up about 10 different ones, and we narrow them down to 5-7. We shoot them at Spring Training, mostly. But, since Ichi is going to be in the WBC, he won’t be there for the shoots.
Funny story: Last year’s “Fungo” spot was originally written for 2007, but the management canned it because they didn’t think any of the players would go for it. The VP showed it to J.J. Putz and he got very excited and said he would get some guys to do it, so we shot it the following year.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions
Another commercials question...
At FanFest a few years ago, I gave Felix a copy of this photo I took (and subsequently Photoshopped):

Actually I believe his interpreter or someone from the marketing department took it, since Felix was too busy signing autographs to take it himself (although he really really liked it and laughed at it). When “the commercial” showed up a few months later, a lot of us thought it was more than coincidental…
Now, I’m not coming after anyone for idea infringement or anything, I just wasn’t the only one that did a double-take upon seeing my photo and the commercial…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
The commercial script/concept
had been approved well before FanFest. They usually get submitted around Christmas or so. Nice PhotoShop work, though.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
No I think you owe Paul money
lots of it. I’m not voting for your brother until you fuckers pay up.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
*Although giving me a paid gig that would allow me to reduce my hours to "part time" at work would be nice as well...
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I think you should be awarded ownership of the franchise
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I hope you guys make this commercial

by Vatinius on Jan 16, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That one plays in my head all the time.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Awesome picture, it made me laugh when I was browsing this on my phone on the toilet yesterday.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
Damn it. Is there like a rulebook you could lend me, or something?
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
It seemed more wrong when I thought EnglishMariner was a girl.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Do Rick Rizzs' eyebrows move by themselves?
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Your brother is the only guy in the contest
who doesn’t look like a complete dildo. Couple #5 are… sweet mother of god those people should not reproduce.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions
I don't know
Big Mustache dude in couple 2 looks like he could be a winner
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
So, to your knowledge, does anyone else in your department or in the entire organization read LL orr USSM?
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by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 12:00 PM PST reply actions
I should have phrased that better.
Does anyone really high up in the org. read the site?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Probably.
I doubt they lose a lot of sleep at night if they get ripped here, though. I don’t think Bill Bavasi ever went home at night and worried that Jeff was going to call him an idiot.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
But he did talk to Dave Cameron once about something I asked him at FanFest...
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Does Felix read LL and does he need somebody to do odd jobs around the house or to share oh so tender sunday evening moments with?
by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes.
At the LL/USSM meet and greet they guests basically said: You keep writting. You never know when we will read it.
I hate to do it...
but read the post man. He specifically says they do.
Are they down to just two couples now (#3 and #4).
That is that is showing for me. Good luck! And I hope they are able to pull it out.
Yes.
They got jobbed in the on-air segment today. Some hack of The Newlywed Game. Wouldn’t accept “Arrogance” as a substitute for “Cockiness.” Dumb.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
I believe that came from the Director.
We’ve actually played that for him before almost all his home starts since early 2007.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Nope.
Right as the team takes the field, we play animations and Hutlyer announces the player/position. After announcing the pitcher (Hernandez) we usually play the song that either: 1.) He has requested (Felix asked for some Latin hip-hop song that sounds like a chipmunk), or 2.) a song of our choosing that fits the night/weather/etc. One day in 2007, we played that song, and he pitched well, so we play it for him unless he wants the chipmunk song.
At least, I think that’s how the story goes. I know we play it before his starts a whole lot.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly the first time I saw it on here before Felix Day...
I thought that someone had heard it in the park either in person or over the FSN broadcast, then ran with it because, seriously, WTF?
I love that song, and I’m happy people associate it with Felix.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Weird too that I never remember hearing it at the park until that time I told you.
Robert, you’ve probably been to more Felix home starts than anyone and have a memory beyond comparison, any memories of this?
I believe the first appearance of Sunshine/Lollipops on LL was June 2007
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 16, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, somewhere around there.
I remember thinking that it was funny that you put it up, and were getting on board with it. We get all geeked-out when stuff we do organically catches on.
Unfortunately, I find out now, that it wasn’t our doing, and you just put it up because. Crap.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously this coincidence is freaking me out
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I just used it because of The Simpsons
by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Am I missing something, or is it possible.....
…that the Director he quotes as the origin for the song earlier in the thread may have gotten it from LL?
by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Wait wrong one.
The episode where Marge gets a crazy friend and Police Chief Wiggum and Homer go chasing after her and end up in a land fill?
It was played twice in the episode..
..where Marge and her new zany friend go on a run with her ex husband’s stolen car. First her friend mistakenly plays it hoping for rock music when they leave to go out at first, and Wiggum plays it….intentionally while chasing them.
Ah, Simpsons.
by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Her friend is Ruth Powers
and she wasn’t new. She was introduced in the 4th season in the episode when Bart gets a crush on her daughter, who ends up dating Jimbo Jones until Bart crank calls Moe and leaves his address causing Moe to storm in wielding a knife, threatening Jimbo, who breaks down crying.
Laura's voice was done by Sara Gilbert.
Sara is much better known as Darlene from Rosanne.
"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin
And has a much more famous big half-sister.
Laura Ingalls Wilder ring a bell?
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure she's so much "famous"
as “hey I think she was in some show about the prairie 50 years ago” at this point.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Melissa did seek the Presidency of the Screen Actors Guild.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
And got it, 1991-95
but that doesn’t make her famous to a generation that didn’t grow up watching Little House On The Praire – past presidents of SAG include Barry Gordon, William Schalert, and Kathleen Nolan. All actors, none particularly famous.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
If I have that many random facts about her in my head,
I think she’s famous.
She also appeared on Celebrity Jeopardy.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
You?
How do you think I feel? Here I was thinking that SOMETHING we did caught on in a die-hard community, and I come to find out that we were not the inspiration behind it. I’m bummed.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I, for one, am not that thrilled about this.
I think it has run its course. At least rally fries are dead.
by Matthew on Jan 16, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I love the Funk Blast.
It’s the good part of Bavasi’s legacy.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
You'll be happy to know we picked up on
The Water Jug Irish folk songs you guys played during some extra innings games after a victory. Particularly when Eric O’Flaherty was pitching.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jan 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I just told them to shove it today!
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Okay, I'm convinced...
The M’s marketing department uses LL as their idea farm system…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
In that case my next idea
is that the M’s give free season tickets to every poster with more than 15,000 comments on LL.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
This would give him incentive.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Jeez.
I’ve had this screenname on here before LL even ever existed. I spend a lot of time here, and yet I’m not there either…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno... that Liz girl was pretty hot
and you just never see attractive people getting rewarded
sorry, this is an issue I’m passionate about
It's true
and a sad fact that even in the 21 century many attractive people have to work and pay taxes just like regular ugly joes. If only someone could create a movement for a society of attractive people, where all the undesirables do all the work for them.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Ayn Rand.
All the intelligent attractive people go to Galt’s Gulch, leaving all the subnormals behind.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
One of my favorite Futurama episodes
is when they are in the sewer, and one of the mutants shows them the “library” of flushed materials.
Bender: It’s nothing but crappy porno and Ayn Rand.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
My favourite joke from the Simpsons involved Maggie attending the
Ayn Rand School for Tots.
Above the blackboard was a banner that read “A is A”. Brialliant.
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Hmmm...
Speaking of M’s-M’s Blog connections. Anyone remember this?

(Look very closely at the top)
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That's all FSN (or in this case, CW 11) -- we've got nothing to do with it.
My guess is that came from a Sunday game. Because they would have never gotten away with that on any other day than Sunday. Plus, CW11 only did Sunday and Thursday games.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
So was FSN responsible for all of the Red sightings and mentions towards the end of last year?
"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin
Yes, I know...
IIRC, the dude working graphics for CW11 at the time was also posting in a game thread at the time…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
- the second "at the time"
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, there was once or twice where the M's actually beat the Angels!
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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
How do I toggle to the new posts immediately?
I’m tired of scrolling through the whole thread to find the highlighted ones.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:03 PM PST reply actions
Z marks as read so you don't scroll to it next time
by seattlebruin on Jan 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Z marks it as read.
It’s what I use.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, I've tested it.
Z and C are not the same.
C advances to the next yellow comment.
Z advances to the next yellow comment and marks that previous comment read.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
And Shift C cycles backwards.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jan 16, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I am surprised it has taken people so long to figure all this out.
I use a combination of all three.
I use "C" if there's a subthread head I want to find my way back to
and I use “Z” to unmark comments I’ve read within the subthread.
Dammit, you asshole!
I didn’t know F5 reloads the page. Running an Apple machine and never us the function keys.
F5 loses all the hidden thready goodness though
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
But necessary if you don't have automatic updates disabled.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
One is curvy, the other jagged.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
or 30 if you land on a triple letter score
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Can you say anything about the M's marketing internships?
I hate to make this lllj-ing, but I don’t see another way to contact you, Yellow Dart.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST reply actions
You can look up internship information
on Mariners.com at the bottom of the page, where it says employment. If you want more details, I can tell you that later.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I've looked that up a few times.
I guess I’m mostly interested in what a M’s marketing guy does. I’ve been working “game management” for the last couple of years working the sound system and public address for college sports. It sounded from what you wrote in here that M’s marketing people have at least a vague hand in game operations. Is that correct?
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Also, you can email me if you want to take this off-blog.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
I've posted worse things on LL and haven't been destroyed for it.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
It's not what you're posting
Just that posting your email anywhere that a bot can get it is a bad idea.
the other angels fan
Those dirty bastards

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There's two types of Marketing Intern.
One works with the management for on-field, pregame activities and events. Usually wrangling anthem singers, first-pitch tossers, play-ball kids, etc. They also work on things like Mariners Mail, fielding calls, the Mariners Navigators and your general marketing type functions.
The other position is more game-entertainment based. Logging video, running cameras, setting up lights and sound equipment, etc. When you see camera people running around at the game, and one of them has a huge antenna coming off his back — that’s usually an intern. Sometimes not.
Both are good internships, and provide a lot of insight into an MLB marketing department. It just depends if you want to be on the production side or the marketing side of things.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, I think I would like the first one.
I have also been applying around for internships as well. I currently am going to school for business over at UW of Bothell, and I am planning on concentrating in marketing/sales. One conundrum I have faced is while I am good at talking to people and convincing them to buy something, or just marketing it, I also have to be pretty knowledgeable about the product in order to market it well. So I am not completely sure what I would want to sell or market, and one thing I know I am knowledgeable about (not as smart as Jeff, Matthew, Graham, etc.) is baseball, especially the Mariners, and I thought that would be awesome. But my girlfriend’s boss (who sells wine) said it was almost impossible to get a marketing job for a baseball team unless you have connections. So, I realize Daniel (2R and 2L) already asked, but would there anyway I could get info as well? My e-mail is on my profile page.
Also, I voted for your bro.
That's ok, because I like the second one.
And I got an interview out of the call for interns that Tony Blengino made at the USSM/LL event, for which I am grateful but I really don’t know how that went.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Woa.
That is sweet. Makes me wish I really went, even though I had to work on Saturday. What position did you interview with Blengino for?
It wasn't actually with Blengino himself, but with the video advance scouting department.
I got to watch a bunch of MLB pitches and try to determine by sight what pitch type they were.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, I don't think I would be able to pass that.
I would probably just stick with the marketing aspect. I think the Mariners do a great job marketing a piss poor team. I think the stadium helps, but they manage to get decent attendance, even last year compared to the awful product they were putting on the field. I think I could learn a lot from working under them.
That's a cool one.
It’s new this season, since we’re taking all the MLB Advance Scouting in-house. So, the video scouting department needed some help.
It can be really tough to get an internship here. There are a lot of applicants. We usually do 3 Marketing Interns and 3 Production Interns per season.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Oh jeez, so I guess having a connection would really help out.
Even though I wouldn’t ask you to help if it was too much on your part. Do you know when the application deadlines are for the internships, and whether they are paid or not?
Internships aren't paid, the application deadline is Jan. 31, I think.
Check the Job Opportunities section on the website.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yea I just checked that out.
But I am thinking, something like this on my resume would look golden if I should get this internship. I was thinking I could probably wait tables or something like that 3 or 4 days a week, and then do the Mariners thing at night.
How old are you?
If you are below 18ish, you could get a similar job with them as a fielder. I did it for 3 years and I loved it but it wasnt really anything more than a part time job salary wise.
I am actually 19.
Will be 20 years old by the summer time. At this point, I am looking more for something I can put on my resume that is business related for the future, rather than the pay I would be getting at the moment. And especially something like the marketing department for the Seattle Mariners should grab employer’s attentions.
I'm not a huge fan of not getting paid either
but really when it comes down to it, are you going to turn down a job you love because the pay’s not there? The internship I interviewed for is paid, but I would pretty much do it for free (so long as I can find a way to live somewhere not my parents’).
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
And if I am good at it enough and I love it, I am sure the money would come my way eventually.
Actually, I don't think waiting tables is such a bad thing
I kinda live for customer service. The only thing is that I don’t want it to be a career.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 16, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well, of course
But it is a good temporary fall back plan to have if you get laid off from your real job, or if you want to work weekends or something like that for extra cash later on when you get a real job. That’s the way I look at it.
And the customer service is something I also find myself surprising good at too. I think all I need is to find something that I would be good at selling. For example, I don’t think I would be good at selling medical machinery because I don’t have the slightest clue about it. But marketing baseball would be basically a dream job for me.
I'm afraid of that.
I will turn off my computer if I need to. I’d rather not lose this job, ya know. I kinda like it here.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, this is late, but..
You can’t just turn off your computer…. It follows you.
by seattlesundevil on Jan 16, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Corco at your service
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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This is an incredibly easy form to spoof but I really need to be able to see the results to not make t his look obvious
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I want him to win but NOT get disqualified
It’s nice to know what I’m dealing with
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
I've been asking the same thing.
I think that if you can just close the gap, they’d be happy. Right now, they’re dealing with a 1500-point deficit.
The voting ends Sunday.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
1500 point?
2000 votes coming right up
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I just cast my vote
but I have no skills so I only voted once.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Oh shit
Does it require the word verification every time?
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I've never had to deal with that before
I can’t manually enter 2000 votes from 2000 unique IPs (well, i could, but that’s it’s not worth the dozens of hours it would take).
I need to figure out how to automate that which is a bit of a challenge
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org
In my favor it seems like a fairly simple algorithm that generates the shit
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It also marks your IP address so you can only vote from it once a day.
Which really sucks at work, because we’re on a gateway and it shows half the office as one IP. This thing wouldn’t even be close if everyone at work could vote.
They just added the word verification on Wednesday. I guess they planned for this sorta thing.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
After the last voting nightmare I acquired automated proxy form spoofing abilities
And mailinator can provide an insanely large number of valid emails, but I’m not sure how to get around word verification
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Ouch.
Well, if anyone can do it — I’m sure you can. If not, well, then I guess my brother will have to break off the engagement and move to the Utah desert to live out his days in the shame of not winning a radio contest…
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
If he moves to Utah, he can take multiple wives, too.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Who would opay for the weddings, though?
That’s the whole point of the contest!
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Where can we see the results
I can’t see where it says whether or not your bro is catching up
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
They don't display them.
Probably because they want the option of being able to job the results if needs be. Shady — but a part of the business.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Reccing this fanpost for further fun
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jan 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone.
I get to drive to Hood River now. Remember, keep voting!
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 16, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions
I love Hood River.
Kitesurfing near the Gorge is awesome.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Two words:
Springhouse Cellars.
Actually there are several Hood River wineries that are FANTASTIC. Pheasant Valley; Cathedral Ridge…
When I think of Hood River, I think of wine. Lots and lots of wine…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
So as far as first posts go
this has been pretty fantastic. Way to go. I’ll vote for your bro from ~5 computers a day.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 16, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing..
Much better than most of the lurkers around here
by seattlesundevil on Jan 16, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Reminds me of LFOJL's first post and I mean that in the best possible way.
Very intelligent and clearly showed that he lurked for a while. The best way to ease into the community.
I think my first post was something like that.
But I had read USSMariner regularly for about a year before I found Lookout Landing.
I wish I remembered mine..
It was probably filled with biased opinions and jokes that didn’t go anywhere, but which I assumed everyone would get.
I probably should have lurked longer.
by seattlesundevil on Jan 16, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure my first post was hidden,
And I’m pretty sure it was just me yelling about how Bavasi was a moron and if the rumored Jones trade went through that he was a retard. Of course, this was the first rumor, that involved Jones and Triunfel, so I just jumped right in and was obnoxious. Then I lurked for a couple months before easing myself in, so that worked alright I guess.
There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!
Can you
make Dave Sims go away? Or at least talk to someone who can? Dear god make it stop.
-Zach Sanders
http://www.mlbnotebook.com
You just stepped on the wrong foot
Dave Sims is the best announcer in Seattle sports right now. I love Neihaus like I love a grandparent but Sims is beyond awesome.
Sims is great at both baseball and football.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Sims
is good at football, but he makes too many obviously stupid remarks in baseball.
-Zach Sanders
http://www.mlbnotebook.com
Sims >>>>>> Rizzs. Do you like Rick Rizzs?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 17, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Sims' commentary is light years smarter than most play-by-play guys.
Baseball broadcasting is about straddling the line between engaging casual fans and keeping hardcore fans interested in what you have to say. Sims is way better at it than most.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sims is amazing at both
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jan 20, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Ken Levine and Dave Sims.
A match made in awkward heaven.
His portrayal of Jamaicans in the "Dancin' Homer" episode was horribly stereotypical.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth! Buhner in the booth!
I think this is something to bring up at fanfest
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 18, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
It was brought up last year, IIRC...
He was pretty candid in saying that the FSN folks weren’t all to excited to invite him back or something.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jan 18, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
What I don't get what the problem with Rizzs is
I mean he is no Niehaus, but I think he does good enough.
Verbal fellating of crappy players, horrible jokes, unbelievably phony, dead animal on head.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Also his insistance on pretending like plays are still happening when they clearly are not when KOMO is late from a break drives me insane.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. That always annoyed me.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 17, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
My feeling is that Rizzs is perfectly fine on radio when he has a game to call
But when he has to make conversation on tv (or with a young fan) it is just dreadful
by JI on Jan 17, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Wh....wh....what? How the hell do you not love Dave Sims?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 17, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I miss Ron Fairly sometimes.
I don’t know why. He had his annoying times but he wasn’t awful.
by Mariner John on Jan 19, 2009 2:12 AM PST up reply actions
Dave Sims is the man and I will fight anyone who disagrees
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yellow dart..
sent in a m’s commercial idea last fall.
got a e-mail back that said they would share it with those who make the decisions.
it was signed…mariners marketing and promotions.
the idea “basic” was superman runs into safeco,jumps into a phone both and comes out in uniform as rrs(since rrs resembles clark kent) and he’s ready to save the m’s.
anything? or is that different marketing ?
Well this is an example of a good post
by Graham MacAree on Jan 16, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
I recommend making a fanpost explaining why he is wrong.
There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!
by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
that usually works out really well
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 17, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
I could get behind this.

My girlfriend would leave me for him in a heartbeat. Damn him and his rugged good looks.
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, FilthyFred
There is no doubt in my mind that the 2009 LL RotY award has already been wrapped up.
No LFoJL was going to win but when it was discovered he was butthol the award was given to NOLA
Get your LListory straight
I thought LFOJL died due to clam related injuries?
There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!
I saw some of Fred's posts on MarinerCentral and I was pretty impressed
It shouldn’t be long until he’s running his own site.
Wow. Yep. People were right...
You can turn off the computer, but this place will always folow you.
Well, after a good day of snowboarding, I’m off to celebrate my birthday. If anyone wants to get me a birthday present - VOTE FOR MY BROTHER!!! Please!
I’ll try and get back to everyone about internships and comercials and Dave Sims after I polish off a bottle of Pendelton whiskey. I hear that type of behavior is encouraged around here….
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 17, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions
awesome photo of rrS
he needs those heavy duty dark rim glasses that him and clark wear.
voting every day yellow dart!
Yellow Dart
I want to come to Safeco this year to catch a series or two, but I would like to sit behind homeplate in the Diamond club for a Felix start. When I was last in the states I had no luck in scoring these seats. Is there anyone at the club I could email to help with this? I don’t mind paying a little over face value if needed – I just want to watch Felix up close!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
Diamond section is a tough one.
Sitting right next to diamond club or right behind diamond club is actually doable.
Step 1) Get tickets as soon as you can from Ticketmast. (Stubhub also has tickets but for 3x the price.)
Step 2) Go to the exchange window before the game. (Across from the parking garage) Between 1 hour to 1 and a half hours before game time tickets not sold or given out by the club are once again open to the public to be sold. Exchange your ticket and ask for “closest to the field behind home plate”.
Step 3) Talk to the scalpers across the street by the parking garage if all else fails.
This is what I do to get tickets. I usually get tickets right behind home plate or right next to the dugout. But it also depends on who they are playing and what day of the week it is.
Finally, let everyone here know you are coming and maybe someone can hook you up for your visit. Based off the day, I might even be able to help.
Thanks for the advice; I've already done real close to the Diamond club. This time I want in! ;)
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jan 18, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
You could go to Fan Fest and win one of the trivia games.
You get to choose any game in the first week of April, so you might have a scheduling conflict. They usually ask stupid questions like “who led the NL in home runs last year.” You get a bunch of other stuff for free too.
Go to a Mariners game when they play at Oakland
You can probably find the equivelant ticket from a scalper for about $40
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 18, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
She's already flying from England.
One American city looks the same as another.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
You've obviously never been to the Oakland Coliseum and seen its neighborhood
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
his profile's gmail address would confirm this suspicion
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Gawd that was a phenomenal recap..
Thanks for linking back to it.. Now my roommates thing I am demonic for laughing in the dark.
by seattlesundevil on Jan 20, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Yah. I thought msb was a guy.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 20, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I am a guy!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jan 25, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
So my brother didn't win...
But that’s okay. Thanks to everyone who voted and/or tried to game the system. It is appreciated.
EnglishMariner — I’ll talk to the people in the Ticket Office about getting some DC seats. You’ll probably have to pay full price for them, and depending on how well the team is doing, they might be full with their ticket holders, but I can try.
Now to prepare for FanFest.
by The Yellow Dart on Jan 20, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions
So this might be a good place to ask:
Has the FanFest schedule been released anywhere? If not, any chance you could help us out, Yellow Dart? I want to know how late I should sleep in on Saturday without missing anything good.
the other angels fan
From my experience...
It’s typically not released until the day of – as in something you can only get inside the gates or right before it. Of course there’s no one worth waiting in line for at 7 a.m. like I’ve done in years past to make sure I get an autograph ticket for.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jan 21, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Wow! I wonder if YellowDart had anything to do with this...
Interestingly, HowChuck are NOT scheduled for a Dugout Dialogue session this year, neither Saturday nor Sunday. First time since I can remember…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
.
Q&A schedule
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
"HowChuck are NOT scheduled for a Dugout Dialogue session this year"
I hear they were also pretty quiet at the media luncheon…
Hmmm. Finally.
After all these years of telling them to SHUT THE HELL UP, it seems as if they’re finally listening.
The real litmus test?
Ken. Griffey. Junior.
If the M’s sign him, it’s very likely because of them and not Zduriencik…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jan 23, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, recommended fanposts are back.
Yippee!
"The shift arrow points to the gulf between those two keys.
Suggesting that we must find a balance between line breaks, which expand, and contractions, which condense.
Truly, a deep concept." ----- Matthew Carruth
by .Taylor on Jan 26, 2009 8:01 AM PST reply actions
I've always wondered...
what grade did you get on that Englilish Paper anyways, Kyle?
Dogfood Gangstas
Canned or Dry,
We Neva Die.
/vote and /rec
Though I still like to think I won that certain contest out of my sheer force of will – doubtful any of the other contestants wanted it as badly as I did ;-) Then again, you probably have access to things like IP numbers associated with votes, timing, referral sites, etc… that I don’t.
Free Stephen "Awesome" Strasburg!
Well shoot
Should have realized voting was closed before I said I’d throw my hat in the ring… Sorry to hear your brother didn’t win.
Free Stephen "Awesome" Strasburg!
by seattlecougar on Jan 27, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions

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