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OTFPOTD 1/16 - Rainbows and Gumdrops

Today's fanpost is brought to you by Elvis Costello, The Breeders, and by the immortal words of Mister Senor Love Daddy. In an attempt to move on from the vitriol of last night (fun though it was to catch up on this morning), here's today's questions:

 - What's your favorite Care Bear?
 - Cute Overload:  Great website or greatest website?
 - Ponies or kittens?
 - Naps:  underrated or overtly awesome?
 - Who's the best Flanders - Rod or Todd?

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Bedtime Bear
Great Website
Kittens
Underrated
Trick question, the answer is Maude

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

Best Elvis Costello album:

PICK ONE:

1.) Imperial Bedroom
2.) Get Happy!!
3.) Trust
4.) This Year’s Model
5.) King Of America

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

For me, in order:

King Of America
Get Happy!! (but it’s sooooo close to being the best one)
Imperial Bedroom
Trust
This Year’s Model

But really, four of those five could be my pick (Trust is good, but not quite up to the other four).

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to admit I'm not too familar with Costello's work.

When I do listen to him I enjoy myself though. Pump It Up is hellaciously fun for Bass in Rock Band.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

You should definitely get these five albums

as well as Brutal Youth from his later work. Then get the rest of it, which is good but not up to the standard of these records.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I would recommend All This Useless Beauty before Brutal Youth

I think that’s clearly his best – and most consistently fun from start to finish – album since King Of America. Better than Blood And Chocolate, even.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Good point

I do like All This Useless Beauty a lot.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

There is a rumor that Steve Miller Band will be part of next week's Rock Band DLC.

I really hope that the Joker is one of them. That song is sooooo much fun to sing.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions  

That's the rumor.

It’s supposed to be “The Joker”, and “Space Cowboy”

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ummmm. . . no.

Or is this a joke I don’t get?

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

There is a Steve Miller song called "Space Cowboy.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops

I stand corrected. I really had no idea until I just googled to make sure.

Anyways…needs more Jet Airliner.

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

What

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Rock n Me makes me want to hit things.

I swear that song is off time in RB.

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Five greatest Cartoons of your youth:

5. Duck Tales
4. GI Joe
3. TMNT
2. Transformers
1. Robotech

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:40 AM PST reply actions  

Only the single greatest cartoon in human history.

It was an americanized version of three separate Japanese series chronicling mankind’s struggle against alien invaders. It was the first cartoon to really show war the way it is. Several main characters die, including one who doesn’t even get a “heroic” death. He dies of internal injuries. It also featured an interracial relationship on a late 80’s Saturday morning cartoon.

In short, it was bloody brilliant. It still holds up today, and even had sa equal play in American theaters just last year. I even read most of the books based on the show too. They are very good even for adults. There is literally not enough great things for me to say about Robotech.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Macross is one of the three Japanese animes Robotech is comprised of.

The other two being Cavalry of the Southern Cross and Genesis Chamber Mospeada.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, a fun pen-and-paper roleplaying system.

I AM GLITTERBOY!

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Good question.

Now, do the Simpsons count? Or are we talking more of the Saturday morning/afterschool variety? If the Simpsons count, then they’re obviously number one. But if not, here’s my list:

5. Duck Tales
4. Garfield and Friends
3. The Little Prince
2. TMNT
1. Animaniacs

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Garfield and Friends ruled.

5. TaleSpin
4. GummiBears
3. Freakazoid
2. Garfield and Friends
1. Animaniacs

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by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes it did.

Not so much for Garfield, but for the Farm cartoon that accompanied it.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm struggling to even come up with five.

1. TMNT
2. He-Man (I have a plastic He-Man plate somewhere in my cupboards to this day)

. . .

3. Transformers
4. Duck Tales
5. Inspector Gadget

by Teej on Jan 16, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I owned every last one of the He-Man toys. Every. Single. One.

Including the playsets. I sold all of them at a garage sale for $50 when I turned 12. Do you guys have an idea how much those toys are worth today!? Thank God I kept all of my Star Wars toys.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Ouch.

I used to sit on my Battle Cat (the fence in front of my house in Boise) swinging a plastic coat hanger and yelling He-Man-isms at passers-by.

by Teej on Jan 16, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I still have somewhere a Castle Grayskull with accompanying figures

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 16, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Five greatest cartoons of my youth:

Speed Racer
Star Blazers
Fat Albert
Anything Warner Brothers
Transformers

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I never did get around to watching Star Blazers.

One of those things I have always wanted to do but have not done yet.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess it's not a cartoon...

…but Banana Splits was sooooooo awesome! Especially “Uh oh, Chongo!”

But, then, we’ve had this conversation before, I believe.

I never watched Speed Racer growing up, so I have to put Star Blazers at the top of my list. On disk 4 now of the season 1 from Neftlix. Haven’t watched the movies yet on the instant queue, but I believe there are 4 of them.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I want a small sample of whatever drugs the Krofft brothers were on

because if I took it at the level that they did in order to make their shows it’d probably kill me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

My youth happened before your youth.

1. Dungeons & Dragons

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Favorite cartoons - older person edition

5. Gigantor
4. Herculoids
3. Jonny Quest
2. Wacky Races
1. Superfriends

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by mem on Jan 16, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Wacky Races!

I’d forgotten about that.

A co-worker of mine used to do an incredible Muttley impression.

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by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha! Hi brother.

5. Gigantor
4. Laugh Olympics
3. Hong Kong Phooey
2. Superfriends
1. Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Hong Kong Phooey

Number one super guy.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Unga Bunga

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Captain... CAAAAAAAAVEMAAAAAAAAAANNNN!

Wasn’t that a spin-off from the Flintstones?

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 16, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Captain Caveman was good.

How about Funky Phantom? “The spirit of ’1776 – at your service.”

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by mem on Jan 16, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Grape Ape.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Biiiiiiiiiirdman.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like I know a lot of these

more from Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law, than their original incarnations.

Of course, for a while Hanna Barbara was running about twenty interchangeable kids solving mysteries franchises. The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan just came to mind.

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by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm trying to remember...

1. The Real Ghostbusters
2. Scooby Doo of some sort (there was that one with Vincent Price! and I probably watched “A Pup Named…” more than I ought to have)
3. Beetlejuice
4. Ren and Stimpy?
5. Rocko’s Modern Life?

Others possible for the last two spots: G.I. Joe, Thundercats, Snorks (maybe), Freakazoid!.

There were also some pretty impressive action cartoons in the early/mid-90s… the Batman animated series, The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest, Gargoyles. I’ll also admit to liking The Pirates of Dark Water, back in the day, just because it was such an unusual premise.

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by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I really liked...

how they drew on all these unusual folk tales and mythological sources as well as the classic horror stuff. It was basically the same results every time, but some of the plots were just out there.

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by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Rocco a lot

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, would Space Ghost: Coast to Coast count?

Or is that more of an interview show?

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by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw Carebears!

1. The Purple Bear…I think his name is Share Bear?
2. I like whichever blog ac posted that is the antithesis of cuteoverload.
3. Ponies scare the hell out of me. Kittens.
4. Naps actually make me feel sick
5. Uh wha?

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 16, 2009 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Even if I'm tired, I can't seem to fall asleep in the daytime.

If I lie down, my brain just goes wild thinking about all the fun things I could be doing. “Think of all the books you haven’t read! The TV show you wanted to catch up on! Virtual bad guys to kill! Time is precious!”

by Teej on Jan 16, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm just an exceptionally unmotivated person I guess

because none of those thoughts ever occur to me, even when I’m not trying to take a nap.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw Slumdog Millionaire last night

GREAT film. I wish I’d seen it in 2008 so it could’ve made my list.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I was amazed to be honest

I had heard good things, and I like Danny Boyle’s work, but this one just kinda didn’t thrill me – but it’s really charming, all the leads do a great job, and you have to stick around for the end credits.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It's a great date movie.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Naps are very overrated...

But I’ve been having such a hard time sleeping that I’ve been forced to do them more just to get any sleep. I still don’t like them though.

by SethGrandpa on Jan 16, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait until you're older.

Naps are awesome.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

so you can have waffles for dinner then.

there is no downside.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

There is that.

I typically only nap on weekend afternoons which makes falling asleep at nighttime not so much of an issue.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

If I take a nap it ruins my entire day.

My body goes into “sleep” mode and never comes out.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm very jealous

I understand the appeal of naps, I am simply unable to take them.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I love a good nap.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Try reading LL from the east coast and having everything fun happen between 11PM and 2 AM.

Who’s the junkie now?

Oh, wait.

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

You'll get over it.

The side benefit is you can have beer for breakfast.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Darkwing Duck

duh.

Naps are awesome beyond all belief, and poines > ponies > kittens

by seattlebruin on Jan 16, 2009 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

Sign that I am getting older and my tastes are changing:

SquareEnix recently announced that Final Fantasy 13 will not be released in the United States until April of 2010 and I just don’t care. Once upon a time I saved up money to buy a Playstation for no other reason than to play Final Fantasy 7.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

This is going to tide me over for a while.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I know I'm in the minority on this, but Alien 3 is a damn fine film.

The studio fucked it up so bad that David Fincher nearly removed his name from the film, though. That’s why watching the director’s cut is actually a worthwhile experience (for once).

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, it's still a terribly flawed film even in the workprint edition.

I agree it makes a lot more rational sense, but still…not fantastic. Not terrible either. I don’t mind Fincher making a hellacious downer of a movie, but the real problems are with the anonymity of the replaceable cast of victims and the crappy special effects. (Some of the worst CGI ever!)

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the CGI was a bad choice.

I really wished they had stuck with live-action special effects. Luckily, the film is so dark that it covers up some of the flaws in the special effects.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I do have to say that SE announcing FFXIII was going multiplatform made me smile.

Millions of Sony Fanboys suddenly cried out in agony. It was like Microsoft cockblocked Sony in North America and Europe.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I just finished FF7: Crisis Core

Holy fuck the ending was spectacular. If you played FF7 (which every kid in the 90s did) you knew how it ended, but when it happened, my mouth was agape and I still felt a wrench in my chest. I’ve never played a game where I just wanted to put down the controller and applaud.

by Double06 on Jan 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I cried when Aerith died.

I have never hated a video game villain more than I hated Sephiroth.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I was meh with Sephiroth.

Kefka at the end of the World of Balance made me hate him. I remember being so angry at the Goddess statues when he stabbed the Emperor and told Celes to execute you.

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by joof on Jan 16, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The PSX was the first console I ever owned.

I got FF7 with it on a friend’s recommendation.

Hated it. JRPGs blow.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I much prefer them.

They have actual story content and it feels like I’m playing a good book.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. I love JRPGs.

I never really got into Western RPGs. Most of them are too D&D-y, and many of the ones today are in first person, which I’m not a huge fan of FPSes either.

by Double06 on Jan 16, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Some western RPGs have story content.

There’s just no room for character development in a JRPG. There are no real choices presented.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I prefer the second life.

I want the setting to be coherent, and I want the freedom to make decisions that actually matter in that setting.

In JRPGs, I don’t feel like I have an impact. There’s only one thing I can do, so why does the game need me at all? I’m not contributing meaningfully to the exchange.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the whole point.

Someone much more creative than me has already created the story.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I like good stories.

That’s why I play BioWare games.

I just want the story to have some flexibility in it where it hasn’t filled in all the gaps.

Plus, I want to play a character I like, and that usually means I have to create that character myself.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The ten best Neil Young albums, ranked in order:

1.) On The Beach
2.) Time Fades Away
3.) Rust Never Sleeps
4.) After The Gold Rush
5.) Tonight’s The Night
6.) Zuma
7.) Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
8.) Neil Young
9.) Freedom
10.) Harvest (but I don’t really like it all that much)…

Prove me wrong, boys.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

I need to be more of a Neil Young person

I’m a pretty casual fan, I like his stuff pretty well, but I never got as deep into it as I did Elvis Costello or some others. I only have Rust Never Sleeps and Tonight’s The Night from this list. Now I’ll have to go get the rest.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You can buy On The Beach on Amazon, but Time Fades Away is still unavailable on CD and never will be.

Young refuses to re-release it. He claims it’s a sound quality issue (it’s a live album from 1973 consisting entirely of new songs, and it’s AWESOME FUCKING AWESOMELY BLEAK), but really it’s about all the bad memories. The so-called “Ditch Trilogy” – where Young followed up the #1 hit of Harvest with three consecutive albums’ worth of unrelentingly confrontational music in response to his near-suicidal depression over the drug-related deaths of his buddies – is Time Fades Away, Tonight’s The Night, and On The Beach. For years the only one available on CD was Tonight’s The Night, and while it’s a universally acknowledged classic it’s actually the weakest of the three…which tells you how great the other two are.

I can probably post a copy of Time Fades Away up somewhere for you to download if a.) you promise to go buy On The Beach; b.) you can handle WMA format. Since it’s commercially unavailable (and will likely remain that way until Young kicks the bucket), I feel no guilt about it.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's the final song from Time Fades Away, via YouTube

Last Dance – 8 & 1/2 minutes of gutbucket guitar-fueled nihilistic rage…with Crosby & Nash on backing vocals!

The sound quality isn’t as good as my copy (the guitar should sound FAR crunchier and nastier), but it’ll do to give you a hint of what kind of desperation was on display nightly during that tour.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. Neil Young and Pearl Jam = a match that never should have been, yet was sadly inevitable

Lots of people spooge over Neil’s ‘90s albums after the resurgence with Freedom (that’s the one with “Rockin’ In The Free World” and it’s a genuinely great LP), but I really don’t care for most of them except Sleeps With Angels, the one inspired largely by Kurt Cobain’s suicide.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps there's a miscommunication here.

Mirror Ball IS their collaboration: it’s a Neil Young album with Pearl Jam as his backing band. And it’s not all that good.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow actual baseball news

Albeit of the rule variety, not of the player variety. From the NYT:

“In another rule change adopted at the owners’ quarterly meeting in Paradise Valley, Ariz., head-to-head records will replace coin flips when determining home-field advantage for tie-breaking games in division and wild-card races.”

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

Huge problem with iTunes Plus:

Every album I pre-ordered that came with a single before the album was available in full didn’t get upgraded. The single upgrades but the full album does not. Basically I will no longer be pre ordering songs via iTunes. In fact, I’m getting awfully fed up with iTunes in general.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

I use Amazon's mp3 store

it’s really quite good. They give you a little utility the first time you buy that will, once installed, automatically move your purchases into your iTunes (one of my big emusic pet peeves is that I have to move files myself).

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Emusic did it for me automatically.

And yes, Amazon will be getting more of my money.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

How did you get emusic to do it automatically?

Can you specify where music gets saved? Mine just go straight to my desktop.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

It has a downloader identical to the one amazon uses.

The only difference being that emusic sreated a playlist in iTunes called emusic so I can see what I bought there. Amazon doesn’t do that.

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by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I have the downloader

but it didn’t create an itunes playlist and it dumps everything on my desktop. Maybe I need to go grab an updated version of the downloader.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I will never get involved with iTunes or anything involving iPods, etc.

I hate their proprietary format, I hate DRM, I hate the promotional crap. I have a Creative Labs Zen mp3 player, which is utterly fantastic, and it plays music in NEARLY ANY FORMAT YOU PLEASE.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Also note that every note of my 5,000+ CD collection was bought and paid for...we're talking about silver discs, jewel cases, liner notes, boxed sets and alll....

…so this isn’t about glorifying piracy. I fucking hate music pirates (even as I recognize that most people do it casually…whatever, it’s just not my style).

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I use iTunes and have not a single piece of DRM'd music

and I can use my mp3 files on any player. The people that have huge problems with iTunes are the people that bought all their music from the iTunes store and who saved all their personal ripped files as AAC files – as long as you don’t do that, iTunes functions just like any other player.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Just breezed through the rest of "Why Graham was Probably Right"

What a fun time that was.

Carebears are equally great
Kittens over ponies
Naps are tremendous, but the post-nap hangover is never worth it. I strongly dislike feeling like a drooling braindead zombie for that much time.

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

Found it mildly amusing for a while, but for me

it doesn’t rank with the all-time greats.

Speaking of which I left Bullwinkle off my list above and I should be shot.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Touche. I always forget that PatB was part of Animaniacs.

Also, Ren & Stimpy always had me cracking up.

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 16, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Ren and Stimpy was surprisingly gross for a children's show.

Powdered Toast man is a hero

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Ren & Stimpy wasn't a children's show.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was on the Cartoon Network.

Up here they showed stuff like The Ninja Scroll and Ghost in the Shell.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It was originally a Nick show, I think

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 16, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Nickelodeon originally.

Then Cartoon Network, and maybe MTV at some point.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 16, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

In any episode that they were showing the future..

It seemed they both were. And cross-dressers, evidently.

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

According to Bart

Todd does. He even released an “Extra Edition” in the Flanders Press. Rod and Todd though didn’t like the fact that Bart didn’t happen to have a reliable source on it.

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Homer: The Flandereses are not geeks! — OK, Rod and Todd are, and the
       wife has a thing for me, but she hides it behind a mask of low-
       key hostility — but we’ve gotta give this thing a chance! I
       want the two families to take a trip together this weekend.

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Circuit City is done.

Take that, consumer electronics industry! You can sell your extended warranties in hell, now!

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

Honestly this bothers me.

It’s quickly becoming a Best Buy monopoly in this region when it comes to consumer electronics. Either that or you can travel to Renton to hit up Fry’s, but that’s really out of the way for a lot of people.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

If this was 1985 you could shop at Radio Shack

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, it was some price gouging going on.

My dad was looking for something for a printer. We brought it up, the guy scanned it. My dad asked how much the total was, and the guy replied, “For you, 13 dollars.” When we picked it up from the shelf, the price tag said $7.99.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Smart kid.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I always loved going to Radio Shack after the holidays

because you could go to the counter and see the gigantic pile of crap that people returned after getting a crappy Radio Shack remote control car or something as a christmas gift.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been trying to return a Christmas gift

My mom bought it in September argh, but the guy said I could return it to get store credit for half value, but they are out of gift cards. And have been for a week. Gift cards.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Which store are you going to?

Unless the item is in poor shape, they are fucking with you. If you are in the area, I can help but we too are out of gift cards recently.

by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Store in Mesa, Arizona, at the Superstition Mall

I’m making one last effort tomorrow. Crossing my fingers. I wouldn’t normally bother, but even half off, this is a hundred bucks.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and it's still in the original box. Never opened.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah sorry about that

You have a shitty store. Try going to a store that isnt located in a mall as they almost universally have better customer service as repeat customers make up a way larger percentage of their sales

by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. I appreciate the help.

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by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I've never had a major problem with Best Buy

which is strange because almost everyone I know has. We had some unpleasantness when they installed our car stereo, but I went back a day later and they not only fixed what they did wrong the first time but also gave me a $50 gift card for my trouble, which I didn’t even agitate for.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

We bought some kitchen appliances there

since they had the best price. Aside from some delivery problems (the refrigerator went out of stock and discontinued the day after we bought it ..but they gave us the newer model which was more expensive at the same price. And, like you, a $50 gift card for our trouble) our dealings with them have been good.

I wouldn’t go in there with questions about anything….but if you know what you’re looking for and the price is competitive..why not?

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

My problem with Best Buy is that they opened up a new store in Vancouver, Washington.

They had a whole satellite retail development built near the Target. A Bed Bath and Beyond went in, a Party City, some other smaller business as well, with Best Buy being the anchor tenant. In order to get something like that built you have to sign at least a 10 year lease. Within two years, they skipped out and moved 7 miles south to Jantzen Beach, Oregon, which is a dying retail area to move into the old CompUSA building (which is smaller, and waaaay off the beaten path).

Their move left the whole Vancouver retail center to die.

Fuckers.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The Jantzen Beach one is really close to my house

and it’s unbelievably small – I was shocked they’d even consider it as a site.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy Deja Vu Batman!

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by joof on Jan 16, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Me either.

I bought a 27" Samsung tube-based HDTV there, and had to take it back since it didn’t fit in my entertainment center. I bought their cheapest 32" LCD (which actually fit better since the speakers are on the bottom). A few weeks later, the price dropped over $25 and so I brought my receipt in and got that cash back. I think I ended up paying $425 + tax, which for a 32" LCD tv at the time was about $150 below any other models. It’s not the world’s greatest TV, but it fits in the entertainment center and looks waaaaaay better than the white 20" Quasar that my wife & I bought with some of our wedding money (actually, come to think of it – I think we even paid close to $350 for that TV, since it had a built-in VCR).

I also bought and returned a camera bag that didn’t work for me. No hassles. They were fine.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

AND looking at the Geek squad makes you feel like a stud.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

They're not really that geeky.

I went in looking for a SATA cable, and they didn’t have any.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought my home computer there, as well as my digital camera.

Both were good deals, and the service was excellent. I just wish I had other options to choose from if necessary (and Sears doesn’t count).

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I used to do all of my computer component shopping at CompUSA

or if I had to CompUCare. For a brief period in time my dad could go to Computer City.

Now all that you can do to pick up barebones components locally is go to Best Buy (crap selection) or Fry’s (Terrible return policy).

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember Egghead stores?

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Good grief, only vaguely.

I think their brick-and-mortar stores when out of business around 1998. I was ten at the time.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Me too. I was sad to see them go.

I don’t think they were ever out of stock of anything.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I would just stare at all of the computer games....

and laugh at the prominent display of Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Computer Surplus FTW!

Is InfoTech still in business? Man, I used to score EVERYTHING there. I was so happy they opened a store – the only time I was able to get stuff was at the now-defunct quarterly computer show at the Kent Commons…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and 4th Dimension isn't so bad.

Except now they can’t sell Macs anymore…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually liked CompUSA

I hated when they went under.

If you’re looking for a TV or anything though you still have Video Only, Costco, Magnolia, etc.

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm....

When’s their clearance sale start? I’ve been eyeballing a camera that they sell…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Paul, what would you suggest for someone who wants to get into photography a little more but doesn't want to spend a lot of money?

I’ve seen some Canon Rebel XTi kits for ~$400 on clearance at Office Depot and Sears, but I was wondering if you had other suggestions for an affordable, beginner’s level DSLR

by seattlebruin on Jan 16, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

If you see a decent price on the XSI, you might consider that instead

I’m debating that and the older 40D. I think I may just go with the XSI, and at least online, it’s not a whole lot more than the XTI.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

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by seattlebruin on Jan 16, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Pornography, I assume...

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a co-worker who did that.

She was an economist, but she was bored, so she started a boudoir photography studio.

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by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Old Nikon D200.

Ones like this are all over the place.

Get a good 50mm 1.8/f fixed lens to start, and then you can expand as needed.

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

If the budget is >$700 for a lens & camera, then abso-freakin-lutely!

I was thinking $500 and below, though…

But I LOVE my D200 and I paid under $800 for mine awhile ago (back when they were still going for $1100-1200).

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Or if you don’t want to have to change lenses (i.e. want something a bit smaller), but still want good image quality and the ability to adjust camera settings, a Canon G10 is a heck of an alternative. Or a Panasonic LX-3. These are both “point and shoots” that have features like an SLR. The Panasonic in particular is made in partnership with Leica (whose version of the exact same camera is twice as much – but there’s virtually no difference between the two).

Nikon D40 or a used D70 kit(I wouldn’t pay more than $400 for the kit) .

The only reason to get a DSLR is if you a) want to (succumb to) spend a metric ton of money on lenses and accessories b) want to change lenses c) make gallery-quality prints larger than 13×19 d) need a fast camera for chasing kids around or shooting sports or e) need the ability to crank the ISO past 800 to shoot without flash (but note – you generally need expensive lenses on a DSLR to get a fast enough shutter speed to make sharp photos or a super-expensive DSLR that makes ISO 6400 look like ISO 400 on lesser cameras – like the D3 or D700 or Canon 5D; all the other DSLRs use funky noise reduction above ISO 800 that is hit and miss, quality-wise). The Panasonic, with its f/2.0 lens (bigger glass = faster lens) and the Canon with it’s solid higher-ISO performance, however, make these differences less important.

XTi’s are pretty solid, but Canon’s ergonomics (camera handling, menus, etc.) are pretty lame. YMMV, though, since camera ergonomics are very personal. That said, I want a Canon 5D so badly (a Mark II, preferably, but now that they’re out – the original 5Ds can be had for a song).

My next DSLR will likely be a Canon 5D (original) but my next camera will likely be either a G10 or the LX3. My “carry in the car” Panasonic FZ-10 serves its purpose, I suppose. But ultimately I want something a little smaller (i.e. reasonably pocketable) but still controllable. I may save some bank and spring for an LX-2 or a G7, but after playing with a little Kodak at the pawn shop, I’m starting to treasure the ability to capture HD video on a small camera. Especially since I actually use my current Panasonic as my main video camera now.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that's weird...

Originally my second paragraph was the subject. No idea how it became the second paragraph, and should be the first.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be hard to implement most likely.

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by joof on Jan 16, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I would stay away from the D40/D40x/D60

The lenses for it are really expensive for not that great functionality. You’re basically stuck to AF-S lenses which cuts out all the large aperture lenses unless you go manual focus.

The D70 supports AF lenses, I would gravitate towards that over the D40.

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, wait...

The AF-S 55-200 VR kit lens is a poorly-constructed but FANTASTIC lens. While, yes, it’s not a fast/large aperture lens, the VR does help a little bit with lower-light images. The 18-55 and 18-70 lenses are both quite stellar for kit lenses, again accepting the point that they’re NOT fast-aperture lenses.

Most beginners don’t use prime lenses, which tend to be faster than zooms. While, yes, the D40/40x/60 only AF with AF-S lenses, the cheap lenses they make for these cameras are very good, and the focal length covered by the kit lenses (18-55 and 55-200) is very much complete.

While, yeah, the D70 is a better camera you can ONLY get it used nowadays (whereas you can still find the D40 new in several stores, or as the link I gave up above suggests – refurbished but with the factory warranty from a authorized and respected dealer). The D70 is still my favorite sub-$400 camera. But for a “new” camera in this price range, I personally like the D40 over the Rebel. Although, I do recognize that the D40 does limit access to the standard AF lenses (which by the time most people might want to buy something faster or outside of the focal range covered by the kit lenses, they’ve moved on to another more complex camera), whereas the Rebel can use any of the lenses in Canon’s AF stable. But faster lenses and specialty lenses are generally not used by people exploring SLR photography for the first time.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

OK I lied...

My next camera may have found its way into my hands. I saw (as I mentioned above) this Kodak point-and-shoot that’s shirt-pocket-tiny, but has built-in HD video capabilities – with stereo microphones even! I read some reviews online and while it’s neither the Canon G10 or Panasonic LX3 that I ultimately want, the reviews for the video portion of the camera were pretty good. I’ve wanted my next pocket camera to have video capabilities because I don’t want to buy a dedicated video camera if I’m only doing video snapshots, and the Mini-DV format takes waaaaay too long to bring into the computer. I was spoiled with my Panasonic FZ-10, in that the video capabilities for what I use it for were pretty solid (even if they were less than what newer cameras offer). When I saw the Kodak and started playing with it, I couldn’t put it down! I’m trying to determine if the photo capabilities are useful enough for me, or if the video capabilities are good enough for me to justify keeping it as my “video” camera and occasional snapshot. I’ve got basically a week to determine this…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

In theory, this weekend, and it runs for about ten weeks.

I wouldn’t expect any deep discounts soon. Should be gradual, and if it’s a camera that has sold well over time, I wouldn’t expect it to be more than 10-20% off.

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by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 16, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

By the way, Captain Chesley Sullenberger is one awesomely badass dude

He’s the guy who pulled off the crash-landing of that Airbus in the Hudson yesterday. It was a mind-numbingly difficult task, with absolutely no margin for error (if he got the entry angle even slightly wrong the fuselage would have broken up and it’s likely that many would’ve drowned), and he executed perfectly.

Read about in the link above. Truly impressive stuff. Guy’s a hero.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 10:17 AM PST reply actions  

Absolutely.

Any roll on the wings and it could have been a disaster. Not too many attempted ditches where everyone walked away. Lousy geese.

by J.W. Pezzino on Jan 16, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not just that though: he had to GUIDE THE PLANE PAST SKYSCRAPERS AND OVER THE GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE...

…as it was descending to the landing in the Hudson. That plane could easily have taken out the GW bridge. And imagine the aftermath of THAT.

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by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Seconded.

Absolutely amazing. And the typical PI/Times idiot commenters are spewing their normal garbage about how he’s no hero and would hope ALL professional pilots would be able to do the same thing he did.

Um. No. Sulley’s got some extra special skills and tons and tons and tons of experience that normal commercial pilots can only dream of having. I mean he’s a crash investigator and runs his own airplane safety consulting company…

He’s beyond a hero – he’s an angel!

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by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

It's actually not that difficult to fly a plane.

It just takes hundreds and thousands of hours of training because they do not want just anyone to be able to fly planes. Look at our roads to see what that would turn out to look like. Our roads would be safer if they increased the price of training, both in time and money.

But this guy is definitely a hero. His cool head and knowledge of emergency situations can only be tested during a real crisis. Needless to say, he is a rare breed when it comes to passing that test.

(For the record, my grandpa was a commercial pilot, I have two uncles who are commercial pilots, my dad and brother have their private pilots license, and I have 30+ hours of flying under my belt.)

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Have you ever been in the cockpit of a commercial airliner?

I’m guessing not, otherwise the title of your post would have been “oh my GOD these things are so complex I’m so glad that pilots get amazing amounts of training!”

There is NOTHING simple about flying a commercial airliner. Computers have taken over to a large extent, but the whole “push a button and go” thing is a complete myth.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you a pilot?

(sincere question)

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

nice pun

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey yeah, it was wasn't it?

I’m so smart I don’t even know I’m smart!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

you're so meta

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Umm, pdb...
(For the record, my grandpa was a commercial pilot, I have two uncles who are commercial pilots, my dad and brother have their private pilots license, and I have 30+ hours of flying under my belt.)

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I know flying an airplane is not pushing a button and letting it go.

It’s not that easy.

However, back in 2001, I was flying into Seoul, Korea, and the fog was so thick they were not landing airplanes. Except of course the airplane I was in. It had been equipped an auto-landing feature like most new commercial jets have these days. Anyway, it was the smoothest landing I have ever experienced, didn’t feel a thing when hitting the ground.

Flying isn’t as easy as pushing a button, but it really can be. However, there will always be pilots because you computers can fail.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely not

(again, apologies for my tone above)

I think that’s what chaps me the most, when people say “a computer does most of the flying anyway I don’t know why pilots make all that money!”. Sigh.

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by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not insanely complex to fly an airliner once it's airborne

but it takes years and years of training to become proficient at takeoff, landing and emergency situations, which just happen to be the most important situations.

There’s a reason the armed services spend ~$1.5M per pilot to teach them to fly.

by seattlebruin on Jan 16, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just reading salon.com's "ask the pilot"

which I shan’t link to since it’s a paysite, but you can find it yourself and read it if you watch an ad. Anyway. The Pilot was talking about this incident, and he strongly criticizes the media for going off on how “miraculous” this was – he made the same point as the PI but didn’t do it dickishly. These guys are trained to within an inch of their lives, and anybody who thinks a pilot just sits there and turns on the autopilot before heading to the drinks cart is completely wrong.

This guy executed his training flawlessly, and he had some good fortune as well (in choppy water a smooth landing like that would be a billion times harder), but what happened yesterday was not the result of a miracle, but of a complete professional executing his duties to his fullest capability.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That story is a beautiful way to kick off the year.

It is also extremely heartening to know that the “In the event of a water landing” spiel is actually well planned out and capable of being executed properly all the way around.

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Never let that man buy a beer again

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by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

One of my coworkers used to be a consultant with GE

they test their aircraft engines by chucking frozen turkeys into running engines.

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just looking for a clip of a turkey cannon, that kind of stuff cracks me up.

One of those low tech kind of ideas that blow your mind to see implemented.

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by Kermit. on Jan 16, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If it can handle a frozen turkey, a live one should be no problem.

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless it was wielding a sword.

You have to think about these things, man.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You're welcome.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

One would think, but perhaps they react differently.

Besides, who the hell hits a turkey with a plane? They can’t fly!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Mal does the same with his spaceships, except with people

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by joof on Jan 16, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

One more thing about this crash.

The last time I left New York, two weeks later 9/11 happened. And as of tomorrow, it will be two weeks from when I left New York again (took off from La Guardia as well).

Maybe I shouldn’t go through New York anymore. Bad things seem to happen roughly two weeks after I leave. It’s funny, too, because my cruise ship went right up the Hudson where this plane landed.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, do me a favor and visit LA.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems to only work for New York.

Good things actually happen when I go through LA. The Lakers won their third title back in 2001 while I stayed overnight at the airport.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Do me a favor and stay out of LA.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

How about Boston.

Maybe you need to spend some time there.

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by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Never been.

Might be able to make a stop later this year when I go job hunting.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I live in LA currently. please no

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by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Here are my answers

Good Luck Bear
Kittens
Naps are terrible for you.
And I don’t watch enough Simpsons to answer the last question.

by Fin on Jan 16, 2009 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

No.

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by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Big update for Rock Band on Tuesday

Steve Miller Band – “The Joker”
Steve Miller Band – “Space Cowboy”
Steve Miller Band – “Take the Money and Run”
Godsmack – “I Stand Alone”
Belly – “Feed the Tree”
Ghost Hounds – “Wind Me Up”
Mute Math – “Typical”
Rob Zombie – “War Zone”

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Best lawsuit ever?

Wife of college basketball coach sues cab driver for accusing her husband of assault, says that the accusation has led to a lack of sexual relations for her and her husband. Link#

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Damn. Almost got the tag right.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Jan 16, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Answers

I hated the Care Bears.
Great website.
I’ve never understood the fascination with ponies. Unless they’re ponies of the Shetland variety. Kittens all the way.
I’m incapable of napping; when I go to sleep I’m in it to win it.
Rod

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

Re-grabbing my man card...

I’m with AC.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 16, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that only reinforces your point.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I did actually once set my crotch on fire

but luckily there was enough Ronsonol on the surface to gove me ample time to put it out before disaster occurred.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ronsonol?

And do I want to know how this happened?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

lighter fluid.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew I knew that name from somewhere.

Sounds like a bong accident I would have had back in my high school days or something. I’m amazed I lived long enough to grow up.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

When you're 16 and in a bad punk rock band

you have to do things to make people stick around to watch you play.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

especially when you are a readheaded band named "Firecrotch"

expectations are high

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't think of the name of the band

but once upon a time a heavy metal singer was seriously injured by a cockrocket

by JI on Jan 16, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

I need to buy a new cell phone today

I’m considering the LG Voyager. Anybody have one and like it? Here’s what I need from a phone:

Has to be Verizon
QWERTY keyboard
Good call quality

uh, that’s about it. I don’t need internet on my phone (although I’m OK with having a phone that’s capable of it, I don’t really use it so it’s not a priority), I don’t care about lots of fancy frills, I just need a decent phone with a QWERTY.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

Everyone I know has one of these.


Link

Apparently it’s a very good phone, keyboard, and all around device.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I have it and I hate it

that’s the one I’m looking to replace.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting.

You’re the first. What don’t you like about it? (I’ve been considering getting it from the rave reviews from coworkers)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's why

 - Lack of headphone jack (sometimes when the Bluetooth is dead I need a corded headphone)
 - Crappy Bluetooth range (anything less than head-to-pocket is fine, but anything more is a gamble)
 - annoying-as-fuck QWERTY keyboard (have to hit NUM LOCK to use the numbers, then hit it again to use the letters)
 - keyboard is starting to wear out after less than two years of moderate use (maybe 20 texts/week)
 - awkward form factor if used as a phone (as opposed to using bluetooth)
 - the dual hinge is loose and the phone doesn’t close flush any more – the top of the clamshell is about 4 degrees right of the bottom when it’s closed
 - no zoom on camera (not a deal breaker, but still kind of annoying)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

You don't have to hit NUMLOCK to get the numbers.

If you press and hold the key that has a number on it, the number will work (like the punctuation keys)

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, still annoying though.

I can use the keyboard fast enough that it totally interrupts the flow of what I’m typing if I push/hold, which is still irritating. One of the things that I like about my wife’s phone (the LG enV) is the dedicated number row at the top of the keyboard.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, but that phone is a BRICK!

I looked at that one too, but it’s fucking huge.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it?

that’s…not good. That’s the one thing that the Alias has going for it, is how small it is. I’ve resigned myself to having to get something slightly bigger but I don’t want to carry around something ridiculous. I’m off to the store now to see for myself.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

And as a word of warning

Any phone that can be classified as a “Smartphone” must get the 30 dollar data plan.

by Robert on Jan 16, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

my favorite type of phone!

although, anyone remember the NBA Read to Achieve commercials? there was one with Reggie Miller, and you caught him reading a line to a bunch of kids saying “Rrrrinnggg! It wass the bone phone!”

Needless to say, my friends and I have turned that phrase for descriptive use in other arenas

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I have the Voyager.

It does have internet capability but I’m not willing to pay the monthly bill for it. The QWERTY keyboard is nice and big, but of course the downside is that you have a bulky phone to carry around in your pocket.

by Double06 on Jan 16, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't trust any company that has to change its name to escape its own brand identity.

I don’t really want a Lucky Goldstar phone.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I have the Verizon version of the HTC touch, which I like as a smartphone.

But Winmo interface is not so great, so I use a third party interface on it called Winterface.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I just got back from the store

didn’t actually buy one – Verizon changed their upgrade policy. I can upgrade now if I want (got an email telling me that), but since my contract’s not up until March I don’t get the $50 “new every two” discount. So I’ll wait till March.

The env2 looked pretty good, as did the Voyager, but now I have more time to figure out which one I want to tote around.

All phones have ridiculous names – what’s wrong with identifying it by a model number? My phone doesn’t need a personality, dammit.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

oooh good to know

Verizon’s store by me didn’t have a “sale” as such – they had a $50 debit gift card rebate thing – but if I wait until March and get their typical $50 instant rebate plus my $50 new-every-two I can get the Voyager for $30. Seemed silly to pay $129 for it now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If you can wait until March and get it for $30 after the rebates, just do that.

Let us know the other phones you might be considering and the price. $30 for the Voyager is a great deal and I don’t know if you can find better.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I HATE the phone. I have an iPhone and love it.

I only make 4 phone calls a week. (2 friends, my mom and the suicide hotline*)
Still I use the iPhone every single day because all the stuff it does. I don’t even think of it as a phone.

I hate phones. But I love having a PDA.

*that last one is a joke by the way.

by mark sobba on Jan 17, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Noooooooooooooooooooo!!

Keanu Reeves to play Spike Spiegel in live action Cowboy Bebop!!!

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

Keanu Reeves? I can't see that at all.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 16, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck.

He’s write.

I don’t know of who I’d want off-hand, but it doesn’t make this any less terrible.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Write?

Right.

I’m not posting for a while.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Read your own sig.

Don’t give up now!

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Wright again.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Rite.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

God dammit the only thing worse than this

is if they cast Natalie Portman as Motoko in the live-action Ghost in the Shell movie.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Paris Hilton

or Lindsay Lohan.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know who I'd want to play Motoko

but if those two are allowed to even audition for the part I’ma hurt someone.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

and how many other SBN blogs have .gif filled seizure fests in celebration of uninformed accusation?

the gremlin spinning Youk was a real knock out

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

DRB

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

what is drb

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

.

4ChanEast

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

R.J. is trying to clean it up over there.

Needs more work, though.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's an odd place.

Coining “Rule 34” was probably what put them on the map.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Some things just work so well that you have to go with it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Blazers Edge does.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 16, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm making yogurt this weekend and making vanilla and/or mixed berry yogurt seems to defeat the purpose of doing it yourself.

Anyone have suggestions for possible flavor combinations? I like the unconventional but I’m of the opinion that yogurt should stay within the realm of fruity/sweet/floral etc.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

Pomegranate.

Only because I’ve always wanted to try it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm.

This must be a recent development. I think it’s time to go looking.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well Trader Joe's has it which won't work for you

but pretty much every company that makes greek style yogurt has fig (also delicious) and pomegranate.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh?

I live right next to one. I just am suspicious of yogurt, and so skim that section. Knowing that it’s there means I will look much more closely next time.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought I remember you saying you didn't have access to one.

There’s a house brand (decent) and also a non-house brand whose name I cannot currently recall (quite good.)

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone else here doesn't.

I think it was in Vancouver (WA)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Weed and Cheetos yogurt.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a big weed fan, but the two seem to go hand in hand.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yogurt and weed?

I can’t say I was a big yogurt fan back in my weed days.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No - weed and cheetos. He was asking for combinations.

In reality, I do not recommend this combo.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Cooking with weed is a great idea in theory but it tastes like crap.

That’s why you mix it in with the butter. Hemp seeds are delicious though.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

Other than the obligatory “brownies”, I’ve never heard of anyone actually trying to cook with it.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, spaghetti sauce, tacos, cake, you name it.

Stoners have replaced any green herb imaginable with weed and used pot butter for anything calling for butter at some time or another.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, pot butter I've heard of.

The rest seem like too much work for a true stoner.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

These people can make bongs out of anything.

Being stoned doesn’t make you industrious but it does make you creative.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Very true, and I've been unwillingly subjected to it more than a few times.

Hey hippies, if you’re going to cook with mind altering substances, please warn your dinner guests.

Thanks.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That's not cool.

At least give people the option.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Simple is better in my opinion.

I do mine with some olive oil, salt, pepper, and then a touch of some simple herbs (Thyme, oregano, rosemary, whatever you like). Spread them on a baking sheet and then let them roast away in the oven.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I usually quarter them, but it depends on the size of the taters you're using.

But I always cut them up first. They seems to absorb more roasty goodness that way.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

As said below, Yukon Golds are excellent for this.

But give yourself adequate time for them to roast.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

First time I tried it I thought they'd be done in about 10-15 minutes.

Needless to say there were no potatoes with dinner that night.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

payback for carne seca.

get some yukon gold, some purple or somethign interesting, and a sweet potato or two.

Slice them into spears, toss them with a little olive oil, some garlic, salt, pepper, chile powder, and oregano, and bake them until soft and starting to brown and crisp on the surface of the wedges.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Those would work too.

Anything but bakers should be fine.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Just the basics

Quarter or smaller-ize them. (about three pounds)
Pour over about 1/3 cup olive oil or melted butter
sprinkle minced garlic on top
sprinkle with plenty of rosemary

bake at 425 unless you are in an apartment in which the alarm goes off when the oven is up this high, in which case lower to 400. Bake about 1 hour but stir about every 15 minutes

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 16, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

How many bands do you love so much you purchase and/or download every one of their B sides?

I get some for some bands, but I get them all for U2, Muse, and Paramore.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

I am this way with Spoon, and was with Pavement and Granddaddy as well.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm concerned with how well Pavement has held up for me

I was just listening to “Brighten the corners” and I really dislike it, for some reason – I liked it when it came out but now Malkmus’ voice just bugs me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

That’s odd. I’ll say this: I don’t get the hype about Mr. Malkmus and his Jicks – DESPITE the genius of having Janet Weiss in the band. But old pavement is still great to me. Crooked Rain? Amirite?

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Crooked Rain and Slanted and Enchanted still make me happy

but Brighten the Corners used to as well and it’s kinda slipped over time, at least to me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Odd. I still like Brighten the Corners.

“Stereo” “Embassy Row” “Date with IKEA” are really good songs. “Starlings in the Slipstream” “Transport is Arranged” – there are a lot of solid songs on that.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Wowee Zowee was genius.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Not only do I have B-Sides

but I have many unreleased Springsteen and Pearl Jam songs.

by JI on Jan 16, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Only a few.

Tom Waits, Morphine, The National, Soul Coughing. I used to do it with TV on the Radio but as they’ve gotten more and more popular I seem to be less and less impressed with them.

I think I have a collection of Refused and Dillinger Four B-Sides too, left over from my punk rock days.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You're my hero for liking Morphine.

It’s a rare thing to find somebody who actually likes that band.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked it at first,

but it definitely didn’t hold up on subsequent listens. I don’t think Shame is a bad song, nor is Mile High, and their longer tracks were interesting for experimental purposes, but most of if was pretty weak as a whole.

Now I’m sad again that there won’t be any more Morphine, which makes The Night all the more haunting.

Have you heard The Twinemen? Are they worth it?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried to get into 'em

but they just didn’t have the same dynamic. It’s solid stuff, musically speaking, but it just didn’t grab me.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 16, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Dillinger Four is still awesome.

I don’t care how ridiculous it is to be basically middle aged and pogoing to a band on fucking Fat Wreck Chords, but there you have it. I… I love Dillinger Four. Still.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Something about midwest punk rock tends to grab me more than the east bay stuff.

I was also a pretty big fan of Naked Raygun, and Cleveland Bound Death Sentence when Cometbus ran through the Twin Cities, but D4 has just been solid for years, they just don’t release much.

I don’t know why more people don’t know about Midwestern Songs of the Americas because that’s one of the best, in my opinion. It’s almost conceptual, in some ways.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The B-side of my band's 45 is way better than the A-side.

After a few months of seeing which songs get airplay this was a poor choice.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It's sort of shocking how often this happens.

Pinback’s best song is a b-side to the ‘Fortress’ single.
Arab Strap’s cover of “Why Can’t This Be Love?” is a b-side
No Age’s best songs have always been the b-sides to their ‘album tracks’

My question to you, Mr. Musician, is why?

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

In our case, it's because the record flowed better that way.

Side one starts out all angry and punky and the songs are 30 seconds long. Side B is a little more mathy and the outro to the last song (which is the best one on the record) is really pretty and has an organ and ends the record on a nice note.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And TV on the Radio...

New Health Rock, which was technically on a single and not released as part of any album, is one of their best songs.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets see them put the euro spec diesel in it and then we'll talk.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a better question for Corco, as I've lapsed as well.

But from what I’ve looked at while looking for a new car, I’d say no.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope so

And it seems like diesels are slowly resurging over here.

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

it's all about perception though

in their first go-round, diesels here were dirty, smoky, and it was hard to find diesel stations. None of those things are currently the case, but that’s the image that sticks in people’s minds when the word “diesel” is uttered.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

you think fuel cells flop?

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

FCX Clarity is usable and in production.

the issue is from the hydrogen production and storage side and that, you’re right, is a difficult charge

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Mostly because it's not really a fuel, it's a energy storage system.

The difference being that it takes more energy to make it than the energy you get out of it, and it can’t be tapped like any other natural resource. It’s more like a battery than a fuel.

What really needs to happen is people need to stop thinking of cars as a necessity, and start using transit as their main transport. You’ll save more fuel(money) and need less infrastructure support by conserving than any non-fossil fuel will give you.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Transit works great in Seattle and I think that needs to be the future for big cities

But for everyone not in a big city, transit has little or no functional use. Laramie, Wyoming, for instance, is never going to have enough people to justify a comprehensive bus service

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I was actually thinking about this on my bike ride last night

Even in cities, there will always be a segment of the population for which alternative modes of transport are just not feasible – construction workers that have to schlep their tools and gear around to job sites, doctors who are on call at hospitals for emergencies, that sort of thing.

I fully support the concept of a limited-range electric or hydrogen or whatever car for people in cities to use to commute – but it should be cheap enough that people can own an electric car for commuting and errands, and can also own a “traditional” car for long car trips and such.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

This

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't really know enough about it to speak to it

I was just going for “alternative modes of powering a vehicle” and wanted more than just electric, so I used hydrogen as an example.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

See, I don't support "limited range" EVs in cities.

If you build a good infrastructure, that is. There is no need to have personal vehicles within a city if the transit structure can hold the people. Commercial vehicles are obviously different, but should remain commercial.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate driving in the city but because of my job I have to.

Seattle is at least 100 years away from having a transit system that’s comprehensive enough to make a carless center city a reality.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Could you get by with easy zipcar access?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

At least once a week I have to be at the store within ten minutes.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the problem, though

most cities’ transit structures can’t hold the people. When gas was $5 a gallon here last summer, everyone decided to take the bus, and every single bus was bursting at the seams during rush hour. Transit agencies have no money to expand their service, so this won’t change any time soon.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless you restructured small towns so that everyone lived in a central residential core

and all the farms and agriculture were served by bus lines leaving the town, I don’t know how it would work.

But that’s not a small town, that’s a commune

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If energy gets expensive enough, you'll see a lot more of it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

But it will be voluntary.

That makes it better.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

There have been some societies in the middle east? structured like this.

Several of them pretty ancient, I’m trying to find a link to the example I’m thinking of, it’s in an old Smithsonian Magazine issue I believe. Works ok to a point, but the centrally located population outgrows the space allotted to it, basically. Hemmed in by the agriculture.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 16, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Rural communities are never going to be easily served by transit.

I’m not denying this. But look at traditionally planned small towns; central business district (Main Street) bordered by residential areas in close proximity to said business district.

I’ve been to and through tons of small towns, but I’ve only spent a significant portion of time in one; Minden NE. You can walk anywhere in town in fifteen minutes tops and most places in five. It’s not big enough to support a lot of sprawl, but if you look at Kearney it’s got the same sort of core and then a bunch of strip malls on the periphery. The only reason anyone needs to drive is to get to the buildings that were constructed after auto-centric planning caught on, and auto-centric planning is just dumb.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 17, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

This makes sense

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by Corco on Jan 17, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The point being that if you can get everyone that can use transit to use transit,

the availability of non-transit sources will increase, and the cost goes down for everyone.

That being said, the cost of having small municipal “direct to stop” buses is the answer to a good amount of the car-per-person problems in smaller towns.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I've always blamed their lack of popularity on Chevy.

They converted a 350 block to diesel, they sucked. It’s been so long now I don’t think most people remember that. Our original base model humvee when I first joined the army had on of those gas engine block converted to diesel POS’s.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 16, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Same thing with small cars.

The American automakers were so absurdly incompetent at producing them early on (or absurdly competent depending on how cynical you are) and they turned a lot of people off to the idea of ever owning a compact car again.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Bitching.

Okay Nissan, rebadge and import the Clio, GO GO GO.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do that when they've already got their own badged compact - the Micra - that's ubiquitous in Europe

It’s weird – people in the UK think of Nissan as the people who make a decent, tiny, subcompact. And I tell them that in the US, Nissan is known as the people who make a very nice 3.5L 6 cylinder engine. We both just stare, not really comprehending each other.
I guess it’s like Ford selling lots of Kas in Europe, and selling a fuckton of F-150s here.

I’d love to see the Ka available if it could pass safety/impact testing. It’s actually really fun to drive.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I would also love to se the Ka in the US.

The Micro is by all accounts a great car, but I love love love Renaults and Nissan rebadging them is the only hope I have of ever getting one.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The new Fiesta is coming and should be really cool (in all likelyhood will be the first new vehicle I buy)

If that sells well I can see it opening the door for the Ka

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

we have a distinct lack of hot hatchbacks in the states

i’d kill for a Fiatt 500 CC Abarth

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

At what price?

those little things are like better looking mini’s on steroids

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably a lot

But they haven’t announced pricing yet. I’m skeptical- supposedly we’re getting a bunch of Alfas in late 2009. If that happens then expect to see the 500 about a year later

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

that is the whitest possible.

scrunch up the nose, push your glasses up, and nasally say “bitching”

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

My car key.

But considering that I remember nothing but trying to convince Matthew to read Vice magazine and eating a pretzel after arriving at Casa de Sexy it is entirely possible that I left my pride there as well.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't regret it any more because Green River was hilarious.
She looked at me with dignity, said
“Baby there’s one thing you’ve gotta see
Even though we’re headed for war
this nation’s prouder than ever before
Yes, there’s a sprit in the air
We’re more American than anywhere.”
Well, I just smiled ‘cause I could tell
This little girl’s going to hell

All the warmth in her heart can’t keep
My blood from running cold
First I fell for her looks
Now I just wanna go for the throat
I tried to tell her a hundred times
This little girl didn’t understand at all
Pride comes before a fall

Now I wouldn’t mind if you swallow my pride
Make me feel all right, deep inside
Feel all right
Pride comes before a fall

This ain’t the summer of love (4x)
I don’t know what you’re thinking of
This ain’t the summer of love

This ain’t the garden of Eden
There ain’t no angels above
Things ain’t what they used to be
This ain’t the summer of love

This ain’t the garden of Eden
There ain’t no angels above
Things ain’t what they used to be
This ain’t the summer of love
This ain’t the summer of fun

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 18, 2009 3:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Actiong?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

His guitar.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Only you.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay new food topic: unconventional popcorn toppings.

I’ll start. Tamari, brewer’s yeast red pepper flakes, sriracha.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Honey.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It would, and it's not that portable

but honey on hot popcorn in small doses is really good. Drizzle it on lightly right after it’s popped.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Bacon Salt

I previously posted as "Man From Nantucket"

by mem on Jan 16, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Crushed black pepper.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that unconventional? And I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

I agree that it is delicious but I’ve been putting black pepper on popcorn for years. Am I a trendsetter?

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't understand why people slather their popcorn with that shit.

i refuse to eat popcorn with that on it in the same way i wont eat that liquid nacho cheese garbage.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah. but buying 100 calorie bags of things

make you feel like you likely should buy tampons as well

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Because not eating like a fucking pig makes you a total girl

and everyone knows girls are stupid and nowhere near as important as men.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

ok settle down.

I was referring to the nabisco snack things that are specifically tageted at women (which I find annoying). I’m certainly an advocate of healthy, I just don’t like the concept involved.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly. the 100 calorie feature only furthers stereotypes.

I am okay, however, with Tampon commercials only featuring women

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

SEXIST

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

/kidding

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to see a tampon commercial with men riding bikes.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh! Maybe so! I know they were playing tennis...

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah i remember that for sure

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't

that’s why my house is cleaned by a Mexican

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 16, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hahahahahaha

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm

/that’s racist gif

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

And yet garlic?

Is there a vampire problem in San Diego?

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Some people can't have nice things.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I beg your pardon?

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

"Honey, kick tha bucket!"

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

speaking of PED's

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Smart Balance and it's hippified cousin Earth Balance

but otherwise you’re correct.

As an aside, working at a theatre that serves real butter on their popcon was actually pretty annoying because people would bitch at us when we asked if they wanted butter for their popcorn.
“Aren’t you supposed to say butter FLAVOR?”
“Uh, no, it’s real butter.”
“Look, don’t lie to me. I know it’s canola oil.”
“It’s totally not.”
“NO MOVIE THEATRES USE REAL BUTTER!” I JUST WANT YOU TO BE HONEST!"

And so forth.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone is always shocked when they see me do it. I don't know why.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I sort of disagree.

The store bought movie theater butter packs smell like gym socks when they’re popping, but wind up delicious.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Tulo!

Big Z is the MAN.

by .Taylor on Jan 16, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

all of em, right here

thanks, google

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet. Thanks!

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Without looking at Google, my guess is 14 or 15.

I think #9 happened against us in Boston 10-15 years ago.

(Time to look at the Google to see how I did.)

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit!

I couldn’t remember John Valentine’s name and it was the 10th, not the 9th in history!

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I am so laughing my ass off at the rest of the US today.

So many places are suffering record low temperatures and right now in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska it is warm enough to go outside without a coat.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

People are weird.

I’ve been email back and forth with this guy who wants a bread maker that’s been sitting in my closet for about 4 years. I tell him that it worked last time it was used, and then sat in a closet for 2 years, this is his response:

Could you make a loaf of bread for me if I decide to pick it up tonight, therefore proving it works.

Should I tell him no and let him possibly buy it anyways, or should I just not let him even know where I live? Am I overreacting?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

then smash it and send him the video

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Or go to a deli and buy a loaf of bread

and pass it off as your own when the dude shows up.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I like this line of reasoning.

Take it a step further and place a loaf of Wonder in the breadmaker.

by Sec 108 on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck fucking Macintosh.

I wanted to upgrade a computer I got from a friend, and because it’s running OS 10.3, they no longer offer upgrades. Proprietary assholes.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

If I have a PC running Win95 and want to go to Vista, there's NO FUCKING PROBLEM.*

*as long as I have enough room, of course.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as the computer supports it (G4 or better)

you can absolutely upgrade in the same way you’d go from 95 to Vista. By doing a fresh install.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Who wants to help me with that? I have either 10.4 or 10.5 at home.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I just havent yet purchased a copy of 10.5 which they are selling for over 100.

especially with 10.6 coming out soon.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If you have the upgrade discs, then put the 10.4 in and upgrade the 10.3 to 10.4, then do the same for the 10.5.

If you have the retail install discs, just put in the 10.5 and select the Archive and Install or the Erase and Install.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hasn't worked.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Which discs do you have, retail or upgrade?

Keep in mind the upgrade discs often are keyed to a certain form factor (ex: Powerbook, iMac, Mac Pro) and putting them into the wrong one won’t let you continue.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh. Retail.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Retail you should have no problem putting the 10.5 discs in and selecting Erase and Install.

It’ll be in the Options button when you select what hard drive you are putting it on.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, it's possible that it won't let you upgrade

because the hard drive is formatted in Mac OS Classic format. In that case the Erase and Install is necessary.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks man.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

10.3 was three entire OS's ago though

Windows doesn’t offer upgrades of 3.1 or Win2000 machines any more – and OS X is a different architecture than 10.3 so it’d be incredibly complex to upgrade it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Good lord.

While my boss is in the office he streams a local radio station from his home in rural Mississippi. I have now heard Wanted Dead or Alive by Bon Jovi four times today.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

just start shreiking the high pitched "waaaaantedddd"

maybe he’ll get the picture.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I get Warm 106.9...

It could be worse.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I just got to put in Sirius/XM for my office.

Holy shit I love switching it to rock after hours.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Underground Garage! Underground Garage!

you need no other station.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a fan of Faction until I realized they only play 30 songs.

UG is too old for me. I expected more “underground” and not so much “Beatles”.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

They do play a fair amount of Beatles, yeah

but listen to Handsome Dick Manitoba’s show (5pm west, I assume that means 8pm east but I don’t know if there are separate feeds) and you’ll hear far more “underground”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm wearing crock pot shoes.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Making a brisket?

I’d soak these babies for a while.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I have yet to make brisket,

but I hope my first one doesn’t smell like feet and punched hobos.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I refuse to guarantee anything.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You've never had my cooking.

That’s probably a smart move.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll just be over here with Lisa if you need me.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a skinny Irish cook.

I wouldn’t trust me, but I’m doing the best I can.

Note: Thingray is actually a decent cook.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I like anyone who smells like cabbage and haggis.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Woof.

Even I have a rough time with haggis.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 16, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

specifically?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Deadliest Catch!

Whenever I hear that song, I think of those guys out on the seas. It is also funny to think they are filming the next season right now. Wonder what kind of shitty day they are having today?

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You know

I should get into the pop music writing business. I only need to know four chords.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

So I have a single mp3 file that contains 14 individual songs

is there some Mac software that I don’t know about that I can use to make this into 14 mp3s, one for each song?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

iTunes used to.

Otherwise look forward to paying 30$ for a crappy piece of shareware!

(Note: I’m sure there are some tools that will do it, I just haven’t found one after a cursory glance)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

When you say "used to"

which version? And how?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You used to be able to (I want to say V7) by adjusting the play length in the properties and changing the format.

It’ll create a new file with just the length you put in the properties.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 16, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure there are freeware editors that will split tracks.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Gimme a minute

I used to have some stuff for this but I completely forgot what it was called.

by BrianL on Jan 16, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This may be what I'm looking for

I’ll play with this tonight when I get home…thanks.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

*as an mp3

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

unless you weren't telling me to convert it to vinyl

but asking if it came from vinyl, in which case yes – it’s a collection of singles.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what I was asking, yes.

I’m going to tackle the conversion of my record collection soon so I wanted to know if I needed to make a note of this thread.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 16, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, you should

Audacity looks like it’ll work a treat for splitting a single file into multiple mp3’s, and the JMP3 splitter looks handy too. I’ll try ’em both this weekend and let you know.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Audacity is great

It’s what I’ve used to encode my vinyl to mp3. I’m sure there are better ways to do this, but….free.

by marc w on Jan 16, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

it's pretty useful for a free program.

most clipping software is either very difficult to use or very bogged down by requests to upgrade to full versions.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 16, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Is anyone else having a problem with their browser?

Look

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

the only way that constitutes a "problem"

is that the bacon is not edible.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 16, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

My pal at MC posted it. Hilarious.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

No, that's just perfect.

I used to like my bacon fairly undercooked, actually, but then I grew up.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 16, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I'm hungry.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit. Where were you five minutes ago?

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 16, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hotwire.com

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That hostel in downtown San Fran is the biggest piece of shit ever

I highly do not recommend it to anyone

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, that was the joke.

I don’t think you could ever recommend anything in Tenderloin to anyone, ever (unless you’re a fan of crack whores).

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 16, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't realize Tenderloin was such a shitty neighborhood

Maybe that’s why I hated San Francisco so much

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by Corco on Jan 16, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Why don't you marry it, then?

Aaaaaand… back to 2nd grade.

You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.

by Sentinel on Jan 16, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Tenderloin was awesome.

My wife and I decided to walk through there on the way to somewhere else and it was…eye-opening.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 19, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Late to the party, but I'll have a go.

1. Funshine Bear
2. Don’t know: goddamn work computer won’t open the site
3. Can I choose bees?
4. Overtly awesome (have kids and you’ll know why)
5. Todd, and I can’t explain why

To continue on with the Care Bears:

When I lived in Bellingham, my friends and I debated about the most powerful weapon in the world, real or fake. We decided on the Care Bear Stare, since it consists of pure goodness and completely takes away any motivation to do evil. Would you all agree or disagree with this?

Also, I’m buying a new 360 game soon, and have my choices whittled down to Fallout 3 or Call of Duty 4. Which would you suggest? Take into consideration that I’m not currently on Xbox Live.

You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.

by Sentinel on Jan 16, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply actions  

If you're not on Xbox Live, don't go with Call of Duty 4

It’s really the only reason to buy the game, although the flamethrower is pretty awesome.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 16, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I played both single and multiplayer at a buddy's house.

I thoroughly enjoyed both aspects of the game, though I didn’t get through much of the single player campaign. I did have a blast during the sniper scenario and the part where you’re covering your guys on the ground from the AC-130 (is that the right plane?).

Anyone with an opinion on Fallout 3?

You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.

by Sentinel on Jan 16, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Fallout 3?

BOOOOOOOOOO BETHSEDA, BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 16, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Please elaborate.

You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.

by Sentinel on Jan 16, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Just being old and stuck in my ways.

I’m 21 years old! I can’t be having things change on me.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That was last week for me.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 16, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2008-2009 Hornets are pretty good too.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 16, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He obviously wasn't being serious.

Otherwise these choices are laughable.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 16, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't follow football. =/

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 17, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

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