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The Rumble in Anaheim.. err... LA is over edition

 

ANAHEIM, Calif. -- The city of Anaheim is dropping its legal challenges to the name of the Angels.

Mayor Curt Pringle says the City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to give up its battle to restore the team's name to the Anaheim Angels. The city had argued that team owner Arte Moreno violated the city-owned stadium lease agreement when he changed the name to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in 2005. A California appeals court ruled against the city last month, and an Orange County Superior court jury sided with the team in 2006.

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Oh thank goodness we finally got the go ahead

by Robert on Jan 14, 2009 10:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I for one look forward to

the New York Jets Of New Jersey At Exit 16W.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 10:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

But if they move to Brooklyn, I would think they'd be the "NY" Nets.

Not the “Brooklyn” Nets. I guess I worded that funny.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they'd be called the Brooklyn Nets.

Most of my family’s from there, and they’re still smarting about having lost the Dodgers.

Big Z is the MAN.

by Taylor H on Jan 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my question about that - are they that much farther

from NY than the Giants? Because the Giants play in NJ, but call themselves NY.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And the Jets.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"they're"

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

they're both sharing the meadowlands

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Meadowlands consists of three buildings.

The racetrack I can’t remember the name of, Giants Stadium, and Izod Center.

Jets and Giants play at the stadium, Nets play at Izod.

I would argue that IZod is probably slightly closer to NY, but maybe by 1/4 mile, and they’re all in the same complex, so it really doesn’t matter.

And I think that Eyebrows got the NJ Nets confused with the NY Jets. Both football teams are NY.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What did I get wrong?

The Jets and Giants are NY, but the Nets are NJ. That’s what I said, right?

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, was Thingray.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew the Nets were in NJ,

I just meant that if they move to Brooklyn, they’ll probably adopt the “NY” name instead of “Brooklyn”.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose so.

The “still” in your comment was what confused people, I think.

I’d assume they’d still be the “NY” Nets though.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right.

Like I said in another post, I worded it funny.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you'll see this happen again.

This is the only team I can think of that was named after a suburb.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not the same

but weren’t the A’s considering becoming the Fremont A’s if/when they ever make their move?

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't heard that,

but I think it would be a big mistake.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Story

here.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's more common with hockey though.

They tend to be okay with smaller markets.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also like when it goes the other way, like the New England Patriots, or the Golden State Warriors.

Teams that represent more than a city.

How about The Bible Belt Cowboys

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Northwest Mariners.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The M's already enjoy the largest sphere of influence in MLB.

Changing their name wouldn’t really make any difference as that location is already pretty firmly in Seattle’s hands. Fairbanks , AK has an affiliate that broadcasts every Mariners game for crying out loud.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even in your country and I think I'm in Mariners territory.

MLB, of course, disagrees, and blacks out all the Jays games on MLB.tv.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

more so than Expo games

Canada is the great expansion market for MLB, too bad there’s only minimal interest

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want a team in Moose Jaw NOW

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Where? Vancouver? Ottawa? Quebec?

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tuktoyaktuk!

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

all of the above plus Calgary

according to BBM circa 2060

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But like you said, minimal interest.

You can’t just name cities that have market size to support it.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your point?

Montreal has the population to support a team (and the Expos actually drew alright once they got good in the 80s). Problem is now a days there’s only minimal interest in baseball there.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we're both arguing the same point here.

Canada has markets that could support major sports teams, but no interest in baseball. The same could be said for a hockey team in Mexico City.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pro hockey games, perhaps

But there are ‘professional sporting games’ in Mexico.

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the point is that a team in Mexico City would have trouble competing in a North American league.

They would have to charge less which would lead to lower payroll etc etc etc.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't so.

Mexico City has the eighth largest urban income in the world.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but how is it distributed?

Something tells me the average person couldn’t afford to pay $125 bucks to take their family to the ballgame on a Saturday night.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

According to wiki
Average household spending in the city was US$52,389 in 2006, up to five times of some of the provinces and twenty percent higher then the next-highest spending region (Nuevo Leon). This level of expenditure is close to that of an average household in Italy or France.

I realize that it is, of course, not the best source, but it backs up what I remember from my studies. The point is that Mexico, DF is much wealthier than the surrounding nation, and that it’s quite possible that if baseball were popular there then a team could be supported.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 14, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes there's an average but how is it distrbuted

How much is at the top, the middle etc.

If the money is in the hands of a few I doesn’t help much when you have to draw 30,000 fans and sell a cable tv package to be viable

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Found this in the wiki entry
The city’s GDP per capita is $22,696, the highest of any city in Latin America. However, this number is skewed by the small number of extremely rich households that shift the mean income upwards. The top decile of households in the entire country had a mean disposable income of US $98,517 in 2007, most of these are located in Mexico City. Their extremely high spending power makes the city attractive for luxury goods companies. The growth of luxury stores established in Mexico D.F. has been impressive since 2003, especially those dealing in luxury cars, designer clothes and expensive jewellery.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In some sense it doesn't matter how it's distributed

So much of attendance revenue is now tilted towards luxury boxes that if this hypothetical club could sell a decent number to the ultra-rich, they could afford to sell cheaper tickets to the hoi polloi.

Second, if construction costs are a lot lower, they’d have a lot less debt to repay.

Third, the cable TV market is probably pretty lucrative down there. Hell, there’s a decent enough market for cable packages for US sports. The first team is going to have basically all of Mexico and a decent chunk of the southern US as supporters, the way the Jays/TSN have in Canada.

All in all, I think we’ll see a US-league pro team in Mexico City at some point in my lifetime. Baseball makes by far the most sense.

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh. I'll be jiggered.

I knew it was really metropolitan and had something of a chip on its shoulder, but I didn’t know it was as wealthy as it is.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Most of those don't, though.

Calgary is just 1 million people, with effectively no metropolitan area. Plus, with the random seasons, and altitude, and the wind, it’s a terrible place to play baseball.

Edmonton’s a better suggestion (same size, lower altitude, less wind) as long as you’re willing to risk playing games at 10°F from time to time.

Quebec isn’t that big. Ottawa isn’t that big (and neither one is as wealthy as Calgary and Edmonton, which matters).

The only good expansion targets would be Vancouver and Montreal. But Seattle should complain about Vancouver, and there’s a stigma against Montreal because baseball already failed there (though that wasn’t Montreal’s fault).

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, agreed

The part about Baseball Mogul in the distant future was a joke. Edmonton would have to play indoors.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Retractable.

It would be a great place to play outdoors in the summer. But summer’s only reliably about 10 weeks long.

We had to genetically engineer wheat in order to grow it fast enough to avoid frost damage. It’s really fucking cold on the Canadian prairies.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And yet they had an outdoor baseball stadium and a team in AAA

for quite some time. I wonder how many games they postponed per year…

Helps that the AAA season is shorter, of course.

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure. The Edmonton Trappers.

And Calgary had a successful AAA team for years (the Calgary Cannons – a name that never made much sense), but with the wind and the thunderstorms and the like it wasn’t the best place to enjoy a game (and the altitude may well have messed up a few swings).

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

SS Danny Tartabull. Yes, SS...

Billy Swift, Mike Campbell, Erik Hansen, Dennis Powell…

And a little Jerry Narron for good measure, even.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And, dang...

If I couldn’t go back in time to catch even one home series in this season in Bellingham…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I loved seeing games in Bellingham.

Players had to use the same bathrooms as the crowd, autographs were easy to get after the games, and every seat was great. My parents took us to more games there than the Kingdome.

The cool part about asking for autographs was players were so young and new to being pros that they seemed surprised and grateful that kids wanted their autographs.

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by Jed MC on Jan 14, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of Tacoma, a bit, really...

…Except by AAA you FINALLY get separate bathrooms in the locker room. Well at least the HOME team does…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've only been to Everett.

Other than my love of prospects, I could have passed on the experience.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't been to a minor league stadium since

about 1990, so I’d probably have a very different opinion of it now. I was also 7 to 12 years old when we were going to Bellingham, so I had a pretty different view of pro baseball players than I do now.

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by Jed MC on Jan 14, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the MLB is as warm weather a sport and the NHL is a cold weather.

If you look at distribution, there’s really no contest in terms of youth sports. All across the southern edge of the US is where the year round baseball leagues are, and good luck finding year round hockey programs in Arizona, for instance.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Edit:

I think the MLB is as much a warm weather sport as the NHL is a cold weather sport.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are independent leagues that operate in Canada, but there's not much interest.

I blame the team nicknames.

The Edmonton Cracker-Cats? Really?

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know. It's funny.

I wish I didn’t know what it really meant.

The name is derived from the oil industry term “fluid catalytic cracking” (cat cracking for short), which is part of the process of refining crude oil into gasoline by converting high boiling hydrocarbons into smaller molecules.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like how much oil drives the local culture.

The Oilers. The Cracker Cats. Calgary’s lacrosse team is the Roughnecks.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see. Arctic.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't as good after season 10 but it still has its moments

and holy hell I have had this discussion about eleventy billion times too many.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The first time I realized it had completely gone in the shitter

is when the spisode starring the Who wasn’t the least bit funny despite Roger Daltrey being a real actor.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Season 7 is really really good, Seasons 8 and 9 were where the show started to get wacky, but at least it was entertaining and funny. Season 10 is where the show really started to fall off, and it was done by season 11.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What? Seriously?

Better than 4 and 5? That’s crazy.

by Phildopip on Jan 14, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

I love seasons 2-9 pretty much equally, but most of my favorite episodes are in seasons 7-9.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the peak is 4-7

With the remainder of 1-9 being quality and 10 being OK

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Hank Scorpio episode was great.

The Rodney Dangerfield episode aired the next week (my least favorite episode ever) and it was hit or miss after that. The last episode I remember liking was where Springfield elementary was split by gender.

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by Jed MC on Jan 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Penguins live in the south.

That’s a huge pet peeve of mine. I hate seeing penguins on Christmas stuff.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Make sure he and his elves are comfortable while making and delivering billions of toys each year.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Santa doesn't shop at Wal*Mart.

Somewhat surprisingly, he finds their labor practices abhorrent.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Slavery is illegal

I’ve known of several people who have worked at Wal*Mart and all were paid. Even the guy who crapped his pants twice.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Half of me desperately wants to hear this story,

and the other half wants to run away screaming.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if half of you hears the story

do you only hear about one of the pants poopings?

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They pay them in chewing tobacco.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No they pay them in US dollars.

No one that I know personally who works/has worked at Wal*Mart chews chaw.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

SSS

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But it's an establish tradition.

Try explaining that to your kids. Santa’s at the north pole, but penguins live in Antarctica, so why the hell are they represented together so much?

Popular culture could at least try to make sense.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Smart kids do.

Kids who think critically do.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We sing about it before every ball game

Corco gets violent when people suggest after 200 years it’s a bit played

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I stop when the anthem plays (and remove my hat if necessary).

I was never in the military, so I don’t salute.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We're only supposed to slaute if we're in uniform.

When not, in uniform we just stand at attention. We don’t put our hand over our heart.

by coolguyrob on Jan 14, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you don't make it obvious, how will the country know you love it?

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Valentine's day is just around the corner

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's how I understand the War of 1812.

Britain was conscripting US sailors to fight Napoleon, and the US was pissed about that. So, they invaded Canada to use that as a bargaining chip against the British.

The invasion of Canada was a spectacular failure, with almost every major battle taking place on US territory (if the front is in your country, you’re not winning). But, the British were also unable to capture any territory from the US, despite a very successful blockade of US ports.

With Napoleon defeated, the British were able to bring their full military might to bear against the US. The Duke of Wellington was asked to take command in Canada, and he wrote, in a letter to the Prime Minister, that sending him to Canada would be a huge waste of time. As he said it, the line defined by the great lakes couldn’t be passed by either side without naval superiority on those lakes, but neither side had any chance of achieving that. He did, however, suggest that capturing New Orleans might allow the British to trade it back to the US in exchange for Maine.

Despite Wellington’s assurances, the British shipped 20,000 soldiers to Montreal, who did no good at all, because the front was simply too big for either side to do anything with.

And then they negotiated peace.

So, if the US goal was to get the British to stop conscripting their sailors, that did happen, but mostly because after Napoleon was defeated the British had no need for American sailors.

The war basically served no purpose at all save to give us something to laugh at. We’re taking about battles involving literally dozens of men with maybe 4 cannons to a side.

Canadians take far too much pride in that war (mostly for having burned down the White House).

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You left out my favorite part!

Where Andrew Jackson attacked the British after peace had been negotiated, though I suppose he’s off the hook for that one since it took the news awhile to reach him.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good part

probably the most lopsided defeat for the British.

Still, Llewdor is right, and the ‘We won the war of 1812!’ spiel only works if you leave out the parts where we lost.

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say he was wrong.

I just like the part where we Pearl Harbored the British.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And the same goes for Canadians.

Canadians often claim that we won the war of 1812, but we didn’t really.

Nothing came of it. It may as well have never happened (though it did neatly demonstrate that state militias weren’t an effective offensive force).

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

1812 was basically a draw.

What were the others?

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But we got Maine and Washington State from you fuckers

Hell, we’ve even maintained control of Point Roberts

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why you wanted Point Roberts.

54-40 or fight didn’t really amount to much.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just so we can say we can have it

And to allow people the ability to live a Canadian lifestyle within American soil. Hyder Alaska is the same way but cooler

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

54-40 is a pretty good band

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ALLLL RIGHT!

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a fan of "It's Ok"

but mostly because of the bas ass cover Pearl Jam did of it years ago. It was on their live DVD “Touring Band”

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's cool that Eddie is down with Dead Moon and all

but I am NOT okay with him fucking with Fred’s lyrics.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would hardly calling it fucking with the lyrics

He does the same thing with the lyrics to Rockin’ in the Free World and Blue, Red, and Grey

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if only he could do it without messing with the lyrics though

I wouldn’t want someone to show me a Mona Lisa with a mustache.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you misunderstand

They’ve never performed the whole song, it’s just a call/response with the audience set to the music of Daughter. It’s not a full song, just a tag.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well Eddie does say it's a Dead Moon song

so there’s that. Plus I absolutely love that song.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know Eddie loves Dead Moon and I have actually rocked out next to him at Dead Moon shows.

It’s more ongoing frustration with the world for not making Fred and Toody rich.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess if you not a fan it may bug you

but he’s always changing lyrics to every thing his songs, Clash Songs, Neil Young songs, Pink Floyd songs, Beatles songs, Who songs, his own songs, his bandmates’ songs it’s done out of love, and it’s done to make the performances unique and unpredictable and it’s not meant to offend.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I’m not a huge PJ fan but Eddie is definitely a good egg.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And I enjoy this about his covers

Why do a cover if it’s going to be the exact same song that the original artist performed? Might as well put your own spin on it.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yessir, they really WHOOPED YOUR HIDE

No they didn’t…Vietnam was a tie!

by waldo rojas on Jan 14, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are those the only two teams that do that?

I can’t think of another one off the top of my head. Minnesota Twins?

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Florida Marlins

Texas Rangers
Colorado Rockies
Arizona Diamondbacks, Cardinals
etc.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the Twins because they do the "TC" thing on their caps.

But I can’t think of any other teams that are named for an area, or a nickname for a state.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Golden State Warriors.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoopsie.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

New England Patriots and Golden State were the two listed above.

I’m trying to figure out if there are any others.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tampa Bay?

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought it was a city

but google seems to indicate that you are correct and I am not.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tampa and St. Petersburg are cities,

but “Tampa Bay” is not.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I... always thought... that dogs... laid eggs.

I… learned something…. today

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay Peter.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And the Rays play in St. Pete.

The Buccaneers and Lightning play in Tampa.

by Teej on Jan 14, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good one.

They’re not specific to north or south, so they aren’t named for a state.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like them.

Who says your fan base is limited to that one city? So many teams don’t even play in the city their named after anyway.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems like a weak attempt to pander to the fan base

I’m not stupid, I know if it weren’t for Boston there’d be no Patriots.

by JI on Jan 14, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still a very large population base.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, didn't get your point at first.

Consider me to be supporting your argument.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

word.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's at least one state level politician that advocates for this every year,

and usually a couple of hastily dropped lawsuits.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not nec that name, but turning the NY back into NJ.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean exit 16 W right?

Because 16W is a completely different exit and leads you to Old Jersey instead.

by Matthew on Jan 14, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

HOLY CRAP YOU'RE RIGHT

That’s why I always ended up in Kentucky when I was trying to get to the Meadowlands.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was "Exit The 16 W" though...

Because Exit 16 W takes you to the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This offtopic took long enough to get to the first page.

I was starting to get a little antsy.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 10:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Before the Bears rebuilt (and ruined) Soldier Field,

they considered moving to a suburb or starting from scratch and destroying Soldier Field.

Mayor Daley told them: The Columns of Soldier Field will remain, they are iconic. Feel free to move the football team out of Soldier Field, but then you will no longer be the Chicago Bears. You will have to be the Downer’s Grove Bears or the Naperville Bears.

They stayed, and consequently landed an Alien spacecraft in soldier field.

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's gotta be the ugliest NFL stadium in existence.

But good for Daley. Chicago knows how to get things done.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's strange seeing the stadium the way it is, especially in the context of the other museums in the area.

Both the Field Museum and Shedd Aquarium have classic architecture, and so does the base of Soldier… I can’t understand why they did to it what they did.

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You got me.

From what I’ve heard, everyone in Chicago hates it too.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But at least it's meant to look like something indigineous to the area.

Plus the whole thing has one look, instead of looking like the crap I used to make with mixed Lego sets as a kid.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's supposed to look like a cactus

but it looks like a finished pan of Jiffy Pop.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you that.

The moveable field tray is pretty cool though. I didn’t like the “Bird’s Nest” at the Olympics either.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really did like the Bird's Nest

just because it was so completely different from anything I’d ever seen, stadium-wise. In that same vein I also like the Allianz Arena.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Birds Nest was sweet

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like an ugly tire normally.

But when you see the pictures of it lit up, that’s pretty cool. The Birds Nest was amazing as far as the engineering and all of that, but as far as being nice to look at, I didn’t enjoy it.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So, the NHL's salary cap is killing small market teams.

Didn’t I say this would happen? A salary floor (which unions always demand in combination with a salary cap) means that small hockey markets can’t afford teams.

There have been a lot of calls for the NHL to move teams back to cities like Winnipeg, Quebec, and Hartford, but those cities couldn’t afford a $40 million payroll hockey team right now anyway, and that’s the minimum.

The Phoenix Coyotes will likely be the first team to fail (and the league can’t be honest about that without exposing the pyramid scheme that is expansion fees), but they actually have bigger problems. They’re tied into a 30 year lease in an arena that was built as part of a failed sububan development. So now no one lives near the arena, and going to the arena reminds everyone of how much their lives suck.

The NHL needs to overhaul completely their financial model, and probably get smaller.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's less the NHL's fault than the economy's, though

They’re tied into a 30 year lease in an arena that was built as part of a failed suburban development. So now no one lives near the arena,

The Phoenix area is one of the hardest-hit areas in the country as far as real estate – largely because of developments like the one in Glendale, which was almost entirely built on spec. Construction of that part of Glendale started when times were good – they started building in 2006 – and didn’t end until mid-last year, which is when the bottom dropped out. And don’t forget that in Phoenix, no one lives near ANYTHING – driving from suburb to suburb is how they live down there, so that’s not so much of an issue as far as the Coyotes’ troubles go.

The main issue is that Phoenix is IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRICKING DESERT and as such has no history with hockey – it was a novelty for them when the Coyotes started, and when Gretzky was named manager, but now it’s back to being a tiny niche in a city of golfers, baseball players, and Cardinals fans.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That main issue is the thing I blame on the league.

The failed property developments I’m getting enough of up here. The construction of the Olympic Village is funded entirely by pre-sales of the condos they’re going to be after the games. Except no one’s buying.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Seattle's an excellent market for the NHL.

Winnipeg is too small, but Seattle isn’t. Seattle would be awesome, and there’s a natural rival just to the north.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what the dirty clothes pile is for.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Febreeze is your friend.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Febreze

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I never use it, so I wouldn't know.

Seems stupid to name it that, when you need the long e sound.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It should be feb-reh-zay

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that is a good rapper name

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or pimp name

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

apropos of nothing?

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've missed something entirely. What movie are you referencing

that apparently involves some facsimile of Justin Long?

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

indeed I have not.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do it now.

Not the best movie ever, but is hilarious in parts.

by Phildopip on Jan 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think its just the concept of the movie which is fascinating.

And yea, its a stupid comedy, but still has its funny moments.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It'd be hard to make it better.

I know it has its flaws and all, but a good third act for this movie would be really hard to do.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The e at the end gives you the long E sound.

A vowel followed by a single consonant and then another vowel is long – standard English prnunciation rules.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Breeze is the root of that word.

I understand the concept, but stick with the conventions that you go into it with.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

General you, not specific.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Use a wooden barrel and suspenders.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Then things like this happen

http://improveverywhere.com/missions/the-no-pants-subway-ride/

The first ride included 7 participants, all male. One participant entered the train pantless for 7 consecutive stops. They pretended not to notice each other, and if asked claimed that they "just forgot" their pants. On the 8th stop, someone came through with a duffle bag selling pants for $1. No photographs were taken, but the above video was captured with our single a hidden camera.

The guy with the pants fort sale is what takes it from funny to hilarious.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Socks, more often.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Go pantsless.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and he got meat!

MEAT!

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Meat! Beer!

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The gift that keeps on giving.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thats a good typo

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How about

Student auctions off virginity for $3.7 million?

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

She's nasty

and why would you pay a lot for sex with a virgin anyway? That sucks. I’d rather go with a pro.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Richard Simmons is not a virgin.

At least not in the broad sense.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Waka did an interview on KJR this morning.

When asked about the usual questions about Ichiro’s supposed selfishness and lack of leadership Waka responded with something along the lines of “What the fuck are you on?”*

*Not really, but Waka said that it was stupid to blame the problems of last season on Ichiro and that vocal leaders are overrated.

Said that the Mariners will go into spring training with Brandon Morrow getting every chance to be a starter. Also said they plan to work on Felix’s high pitch-count problems as well as teaching him to use his pitch selection more appropriately.

by BrianL on Jan 14, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Has anybody heard of Funny or Diet? Some of this stuff had me rolling.

NSFW, unless a 2 year old calling Will Farrell a bitch is ok with your boss. Will Farrell’s Landlady.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would assume most everyone has heard of funny or die, especially "The Landlady"

Funny or Diet would be a good mashup of the celebrity weightloss shows mixed with Last Comic Standing.

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good call.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even more shocking, Ricardo Montalbon is dead.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOO!

KHHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

by Phildopip on Jan 14, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously not as important, because he didn't get a BREAKING NEWS!!!! banner on MSNBC.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What?

I am not a number ! I am a FREE MAN!

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Le Plane Came! Le Plane Came!

And took Ricardo away…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the story about Shop Rite

not wanting to make the cake. Funny stuff. In other shitty baby names I knew a girl in middle school named LaTrina, which was pretty awesome. And a pediatrician friend of mine delivered a kid whose parents wanted to name their child after a flower and so they went with Gonorrhea.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some great recent names from our local hospital

“Shithead” – ’it’s pronounced ShÉ™-THEED’ and twins named ‘Drone’ and ‘Clone.’

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Le-a

Pronounced Ledasha.

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by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

really? that's just... wow.

My favorites are still D’Brickashaw (Ferguson, LT for the Jets) and Lacedarius (Dunn, of the Baylor Bears)

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My buddy (who is white) named his son Aneus.

Pronounced Uh-knee-us. I used to call him Lil’ Anus.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Geez.

And people thought I was crazy when I wanted to name a boy (if I ever had one) Bryn.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

there are both. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt in using the u,

but clearly Aeneas is a superior namesake. Aeneas Williams was a good football player, and I enjoyed him more because of his name.

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. That's how it's spelled. Mine was a typo.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've always thought the most badass thing you could name a kid

would be Prometheus. However I would never go so far as to name a kid that.

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you ask me,

the worst is when people name kids things like “Buster”, “Junior” or “Bubba” as their legal name.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brothers..

Boss and Champ Bailey

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well damn me for not looking it up

I misremembered that they were actually named that.

Sort of like how BJ (Upton) stands for Bossman Junior, bu the is actually named Melvin. My bad.

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by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And people told me naming my son Silas was weird...

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Silas is actually a sweet name.

Have no idea if my future wife would approve of it though.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of the old church camp song...

“Two for Paul and (pause) SI-LAS!”

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mine is named Eyan

Pronounced E-In

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by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're insane, and I no longer trust you. What a monster.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 15, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever

Go to hell

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by tootthekazoo on Jan 15, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know I was joking, right?

I mean, you’re still a monster, but your son’s name is cool.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 15, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its actually islamic

My dad is a white muslim. I just go by Fin for simplicity.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Because when his grandmother began calling him that, I found it funny.

My buddy wouldn’t be my buddy if he didn’t have a sense of humor.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 15, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

D'Brickashaw is a classic but what about

Ovington J’Anthony? As in Ovington J’Anthony Mayo? There are other that I cannot remember at this time as well.

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually made a list with my buddy a few years back

which consisted of us combing thinking through every major sports team and picking out the winners.

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by abender20 on Jan 15, 2009 8:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

The parents did their kids no favors by naming them as they did, but taking them seems a bit much.

Shoulda just made your own cake, guys . . .

by Teej on Jan 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, unless any sort of abuse can be proven

it seems a little strong to actually take the kids.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Though giving the kids those names doesn't exactly scream "GREAT PARENTS" at you

whether or not you’re a white supremacist, I can’t see the logic in giving your children names which will almost certainly inhibit them later in life

by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect we haven't heard everything reguarding this case.

I’m not saying that CPS definitively had enough reason to do it. However, with these parents I’d be kind of surprised if there wasn’t all sorts of evidence to warrant the decision. I’ll wait and see what else pops up before coming to a conclusion, though.

by BrianL on Jan 14, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm the same way

Plenty of kids have survived having douchey parents, so I’m inclined to think there was more going on here.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

very cold vodka

pickle chaser. Can’t be beat.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like you've been to Russia.

When I was there I tried that. I wasn’t a fan.

by coolguyrob on Jan 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Grew up there

vodka needs to be good. you were either drinking bad vodka, doing it wrong, or just don’t have a taste for strong drink. bet there’s nothing like -20 degree vodka with good chaser and a bowl of borscht

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? Awesome

I’ve been to St. Petersburg a couple of times. It’s one of my favorite cities in the world. I think it’s more just me being not so much a fan of vodka straight up. Even super cold like that. If I’m drinking straight liquor I prefer a good dark rum.

by coolguyrob on Jan 14, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've had an apple cider drink with a shot of something in it, delicious.

What kind of hard alcohol goes well with cider?

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd think rum and bourbon would be ideal.

Vodka might work well too if it wasn’t mixed very strong.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rumpleminze

In hot chocolate is tasty. My roommate used to always do shots of this. Ugh. One drunken night my biddy and I ran out of Crown Royal so I dug under the couch and took a warm shot of Rumpies. Bad Idea

by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fireball.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I tried making pan fried noodles last night using rice noodles.

They rapidly tried to become a solid lump in the bottom of the wok. Has anyone else tried doing this, and can you tell me what I did wrong?

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Keep it moving.

It’s like watching the guys in the back of a Chinese place, they never let anything sit for more than a second. Also, how heavy were your noodle/sauce, because I can see that having an effect.

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by Faux on Jan 14, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I frantically tried to keep everything moving,

and all I was using was a little soy sauce and some sesame oil. I think I might have made the batch to big, or screwed up on preparing the noodles in the first place.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Separate them?

Ummm. No.

I prepared them as per the instructions on the packet, then left them in the sink to drain while the chicken/broccoli/garlic cooked, then dumped them in straight out of the strainer.

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by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be the issue.

Drain them while rinsing with cold water and stirring.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I find it's also important to cook them only for 3-4 minutes.

Then set them aside. After that they can get mushy.

by royalcurve on Jan 14, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mushy wasn't a problem, sticky was.

I didn’t rinse the rice noodles, are you supposed to do that?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Soak them AFTER cooking them as recommended on the packaging?

Or simply soak them for 30-45 minutes as the method of cooking?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying your recipe NOLA,

It tasted great, but my noodles got kind fo sticky/clumpy.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tell ya,

good the next day too! Much better than the crappy lunch options around here.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So soak, then boil,

Then add to the pan without rinsing.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Somehow I think we've got two different cooking methods going on here.

My mom does pan fried noodles by:

1)Prep by soaking in warm water for 30 minutes prior to cooking
2)Using a wok or pan, set the stove to high heat and dump noodles in. Use two large spoons to constantly toss the noodles. (Make sure there is a bit of water in the pan to keep the noodles from burning). No boiling
3)After noodles are soft and cooked, rinse then dump back into wok
4)Add sauce, veggies, meats.

by BrianL on Jan 14, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, different approach.

I see where youre going with that though, I might try it that way sometime.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 14, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Depending on the noodles you have

Make sure you separate and soak them in warm water for about 30-45 minutes prior to cooking, use high heat in the pan, toss the noodles constantly making sure there’s a bit of water in the pan, and add the sauce after the noodles are cooked.

(This is per my Cambodian mother who I’m on the phone with right now)

by BrianL on Jan 14, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

confirmed. This is the method.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And uh hey be a real friend and maybe forward that to recipe to me?

No worries if family recipe’s are a close held secret, there are some of those in my family so I’m familiar with that.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah I'm sure she won't mind.

Soon as I get it I’ll send you a copy.

by BrianL on Jan 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually cooked my wife's favorite meal...

…without looking at one page of the recipe book I normally use as a reference for cooking it.

I guess you can say it’s become MY family recipe.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BOTD???

The pan in the bottom-left corner of the stove is bacon and onions in prep for the Kartoffelsalat…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay a lot of you know I am a Paramore fan, enough so that one could call me a Paramore apolagist.

But have any of y’all ever heard their cover of Sunday Bloody Sunday? Righteous political rage coming from Hayley’s voice is just kind of odd. It just fails on so many levels. I hate it when a band I love produces a terrible cover of a song by another band I love.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can't imagine wanting to hear such a thing

and that’s nothing against Paramore, I just can’t imagine ANYONE covering that song in any sort of satisfactory way.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally off topic, but there was a roughneck who got through the first round of American Idol last night.

I know, I know, but the show fascinates me.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard about that guy actually.

I don’t watch until they trim to at least five people. While I was in Hawaii I went to a show featuring Jasmine Trias.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd bet he sings rock songs.

But the image of a roughneck, complete with drilling mud covered boots, greased stained clothes, and hard hat belting out “I will always love you” by Whitney Houston made me snort. Hot coffee.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll root for him as long as he represents us and rock well.

In other words, don’t be a Daughtry sized douche bag.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Found a country song about working offshore on a drill rig. GOM of course.

20 Miles From Shore, Hawkshaw Hawkins. GOM of course.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*Dolly Parton

Sorry, but I loves me some Dolly and I insist she get credit where credit is due.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly, Whitney sued Dolly over the use of that song.

Whenever I think of that show, every contestant is belting out that song.

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by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Paramore I have this fear about them.

While they do have a very good drummer, musically they are nothing special. The guitarist rarely takes any risks and their music has a very polished and radio friendly quality. They totally survive based on Hayley Williams voice and awww shucks girly cuteness. She would probably be better off artistically and financially if she just went solo. Of course half the charm about her is that she insists Paramore is a band and not just Hayley and her back up.

I can only hope that their single off the twilight soundtrack is a sign that they will try to challenge themselves to write more unique music.

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by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They will be the Female Foo Fighters in about 5 years

and there’s nothing really wrong with that, if that’s what they want to do – there are worse business models to follow. Churning out unchallenging, radio-friendly pop/rock has paid Dave Grohl’s bills quite nicely for the last 15 years.

Of course, the argument there is that bands shouldn’t follow business models, but that’s a whole ’nother can of worms.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy with that.

As long as everything stays consistently good with the occasional masterpiece like Everlong or Best of You thrown in there, I’d call that a good body of work.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh, I don't like seeing them compared to Foo Fighters.

Musically, Paramore is leagues below Foo Fighters as far as music goes. As far as popularity, they could be the same.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think "leagues" is a little harsh.

I mean they are no the Mars Volta by any stretch of the imagination but they do have talent.

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by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

I think they would be above maybe, what, Britney Spears or Katy Perry in talent. But I don’t really think of them as a real rock band like Foo Fighters. They are kind of hovering around that emo hipster area. Not quite there, but kind of pandering to that crowd.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a big argument with my buddy as I tried to explain that Paramore is not Emo.

They are just a pop/rock band. Real emo is some hardcore shit.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 14, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't understand how emo came to mean "whiney alt-pop"

and hipster became of subgenre of mainstream fashion.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True, but emo has had a musical change in the last few years.

It’s widely thought that Weezer were the grandfathers of emo. Next came Sunny Day Real Estate. A few years ago, the sound was somewhat adopted by punk and hardcore (primarily straightedge) bands. Now it’s an umbrella to which quite a few genres reside.

I prefer terms like, “something I would listen to,” and “something I would not listen to.” If I need to explain the sound to someone, I’ll break down the musical components that the band exhibits, rather than use some term that may confuse people.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What 80's bands do you have in mind?

The Cure? Does Fugazi count?

I know I shouldn’t, but I’ve always considered Diary and Pinkerton to be cornerstones of the genre.

by katal on Jan 14, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rites of Spring and a bunch of other D.C./Dischord stuff.

Fugazi, maybe even later Minor Threat. You could make an argument for Husker Du as well. Jawbreaker and Sunny Day Real Estate were both around before Weezer.

I don’t have a problem with Weezer being classified as emo at all though, I just think maybe it should have stopped being called emo after Pinkerton came out because there’s really not a whole lot of connection between the mid-80s stuff and what people call emo nowadays. I just tend to think of that stuff as alt-rock anyway.

by acblue on Jan 14, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot all about Rites of Spring

Never got into Jawbreaker.

Agreed about Weezer. Everything they’ve done this decade has as much connection to emo as modern Dylan has to folk.

by katal on Jan 14, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My god, I loved Jawbreaker.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 15, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They were good

I prefer Cap’n Jazz for that early 90s emo thing.
SDRE was always my fave for that, but Cap’n Jazz is great. Too bad I, and pretty much everyone else, didn’t know them when they were around – just that Jade Tree reissue thingy in the mid 90s.

AC – I think it’s clear that what WE mean by ‘emo’ and what most everyone means now are totally different, and have no relation to each other. Kevin’s probably right that many think of Weezer as emo godfathers, which mean it’s a totally unrelated, distinct genre. Not saying it’s bad or good, it’s just confusing as hell.

I STILL don’t know what this new version of ‘hipster’ is supposed to mean, but oh well.

by marc w on Jan 15, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Weezer is not the granddaddy of emo

But I see ac has already covered who is.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 15, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I said many people think that to be true.

I did not say I did.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 15, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's a regional dialect?

I’m with you, ac, I can’t make heads or tails of that sentence.

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be quite honest, I am so out of the MTV loop, I don't know what is up to date.

I just assumed emo and hipster are thrown around by the mainstream media. Such as calling Fall out boy emo and White Stripes hipster, even though both I guess wouldn’t be either respectively because they both sold out? I have no idea. I can’t watch MTV for more than 10 minutes without getting suicidal thoughts.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are 'emo' bands who are techincally phenomenal musicians and songwriters

Genre is not the same as musical talent.

Unless it’s jazz.

by Graham on Jan 14, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're not alone...

Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who thought of thewyrm when seeing that…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The guy kept driving home the point that his job was the fifth most dangerous in the world.

I mentioned to my wife that in no way does being a roughneck beat “Bangkok Hooker.”

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And did you catch that fake-ass rocker who kept crying?

Pure gold.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's a closet Manilow fan.

And, man, you should see his Yanni collection!

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How will I ever get wacky cat videos now?

And I hope to god the Benny Hill theme is in the public domain or that will be the end of comedy.

(yup, not bothered about youtube becoming a ghost town)

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OH MY GOD

Genius. It needs to work with gifs; I mean this really is the jelly to lawn dart’s peanut butter.

by marc w on Jan 14, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I know!

Rick Roll EVERYONE by replacing the audio track with that song…

Okay, so muting’s better.

Still, this is quite lame.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This seems like the logical way to do this

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Jan 14, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been listening to Run-DMC's Raising Hell and NWA's Straight Outta Compton all afternoon

and I forgot how much I love 80’s/early 90’s rap. Any other good examples of that era of rap that I may not know about*? I’ve always kinda been a fan of Too Short, but I know only a couple songs of his – are any of his albums good?

*Digital Underground = not good

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 3:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, after I wrote that I thought of all the caveats

I’ve got some Ice-T (nothing after O.G, though), the aforementioned other Run-DMC, other NWA, and even the odd 2 Live Crew.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kid Sensation also.

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's get live with the KID SENSAY-SHUUUUUUN!

You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.

by Sentinel on Jan 14, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Early Ice Cube, very solid.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!

by abender20 on Jan 14, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gods, I hate that song.

I even remember the lyrics.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jan 14, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Public Enemy

"Beer is ... love ..." Ben Franklin

by Jed MC on Jan 14, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Don’t Sweat the Technique by Eric B and Rakim
and
Liquid Swords by GZA
are two of my favorite rap albums of the nineties

by Fogel on Jan 14, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My faves from the early to mid-90s

(was a bit too young to be paying attention in the late 80s)

Nas – Illmatic
Wu-Tang – Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
B.I.G. – Ready to Die
Mobb Deep – The Infamous
GZA – Liquid Swords
Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Any Tribe album
Dr. Dre – The Chronic
Snoop Dogg – Doggystyle
Souls of Mischief – 97 ’til Infinity
Ghostface – Ironman
2Pac – All Eyez On Me

Might not be your cup of tea, but since you asked . . . and yeah, I have a pretty heavy Wu-Tang and Death Row bias.

by Teej on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting read

Hack your brain

I can verify the upper left and middle work. When May rolls around and we see the sun again, I’ll give the lower right a go.

by Matthew on Jan 14, 2009 4:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That was a good read.

I am willing to try some of those out as well. The static one especially seems interesting.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, Im going to try it when I get home

I have a white noise app on my ipod, I am wondering if that is comparible, and it the different noises (such as pink noise, brown noise, blue noise, white noise, etc.) would show something different.

by Fin on Jan 14, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That fake hand trick works, they use something like that for phantom pain relief.

Used to work with a guy that had lost a leg, he said the phantom sensation nearly drove him insane before he was cured.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 14, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, some therapy involving a fake limb and mirrors.

It was interesting, trained his mind to recognize the limb was missing so it would stop receiving signals from nerves that were no longer there. He said it felt like his foot was alternately cramping, or he was walking on tiptoe. I think it was something similar to this study. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/21/2206

The first time I worked with him he popped out of the water after a dive and threw his leg on the deck, freaked me out. I hadn’t realized it was gone below the knee. This kind of stuff is neat, it’s parlor tricks but there’s applications. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an expert, I’m just slightly familiar with this one because I worked with a guy

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by Kermit. on Jan 15, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know

That’s a game I somehow never played.

by katal on Jan 14, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Despite never going to real college

Beer pong is one of the very few things that I am naturally good at.

by Robert on Jan 14, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

I’m curious how much Apple’s stock dropped today…

Only 2.7% – actually above what the market itself dropped today (2.9%)…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know what his medical condition is?

Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.

by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rumors are pancreatic cancer

So its likely bad news bears

by Robert on Jan 14, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This makes me quite sad

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow Hyundai has a great promotion out now

If I go buy a new Hyundai and then lose my job within a year I can give it back. That makes me want to buy a Hyundai, especially since it means the Koreans are giving us free stuff

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 6:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How is that free though?

I assume that “give it back” doesn’t entail a full refund of payments made to that point.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the impression I get

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just reading the small print

and you have to have made at least two payments, and then Hyundai determines the value of your car, and “provided you have made at least two scheduled payments on your loan or lease, you pay for the amount above the Hyundai Assurance benefit (if anything) and any car payments that were due prior to your filing for the benefit”, after which you can walk away with no negative impact to your credit. So, not free.

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by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well fuck that then

There was a chance I was going to actually consider buying a Korean car but no more

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 14, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's not a bad deal at all

considering that if you get laid off you can give the car back and only be out $1000 or a bit is not too shabby.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure it will sell a shit ton

I still get emails from the HMFC district manager, so I have a copy of all the fine details if anybody is interested.

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know who's really, really good?

Andrei Kirilenko. I’m not a big NBA guy, but boy, he is something.

Big Z is the MAN.

by Taylor H on Jan 14, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

AK is a fantasy monster because he gets lots of blocks and steals

in reality, he’s a good but overrated defender and an average or slightly-below average offensive player. He’s merely an adequate shooter for a forward and has very little 1 on 1 game. He is a good passer, but coupled with only average ball-handling skills make for a combination of a slightly above average player. Nothing close to the star his fantasy stats suggest he is.

by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought fantasy sports were reality though

at least that’s how it looks down here in the basement.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 14, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This I will agree with you on

Stephen Curry is a beast.

Not sure how he’ll do in the NBA, but he’s one of the best college players I’ve ever seen

by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was nearly roped into pulling an all nighter with my boss (my dad) tonight

But he would have to teach me several different things he has to do and just couldn’t spare the time. I feel bad for him, because he literally has a fucking pile of estimates to write, let alone all of the year end tax stuff which is due by the 31st. And he arrived at work at 4 this morning. Owning and running a business seems to suck quite a bit

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But at least you get the satisfaction of owning and running your own business

as opposed to being some tiny little person in a 120,000+ employee company

Also, you might enjoy this

by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is way more info than I am able to process right now

But that could come in handy, for sure.

I think the issue with his business is that it isn’t quite large enough to warrant having dedicated people to handle the books and stuff, but it’s not small enough to easily handle doing it solo like he is. I mean, when things are normal for us, he works from 5 am until 7-8 at night. That’s normal for him. As of now, we are super busy (yay snow!) and it is t