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The Rumble in Anaheim.. err... LA is over edition
ANAHEIM, Calif. -- The city of Anaheim is dropping its legal challenges to the name of the Angels.
Mayor Curt Pringle says the City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to give up its battle to restore the team's name to the Anaheim Angels. The city had argued that team owner Arte Moreno violated the city-owned stadium lease agreement when he changed the name to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in 2005. A California appeals court ruled against the city last month, and an Orange County Superior court jury sided with the team in 2006.
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I demand my natural rights.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
In the olden days the males would be the propety holders
So Coach likely holds your rights, while Butthol stays homes to cook and rear you.
I'm older than Coach is...
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by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I for one look forward to
the New York Jets Of New Jersey At Exit 16W.
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There was some hubbub a while back about the Nets moving to Brooklyn.
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by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I'd assume they'd still be the "NY" Nets though.
Man do I love midgets.
But if they move to Brooklyn, I would think they'd be the "NY" Nets.
Not the “Brooklyn” Nets. I guess I worded that funny.
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You're probably right, but Brooklyn would be cooler.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I hope they'd be called the Brooklyn Nets.
Most of my family’s from there, and they’re still smarting about having lost the Dodgers.
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by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Here's my question about that - are they that much farther
from NY than the Giants? Because the Giants play in NJ, but call themselves NY.
the other angels fan
I think their in the same sports complex (the Meadowlands), but I could be wrong.
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they're both sharing the meadowlands
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The Meadowlands consists of three buildings.
The racetrack I can’t remember the name of, Giants Stadium, and Izod Center.
Jets and Giants play at the stadium, Nets play at Izod.
I would argue that IZod is probably slightly closer to NY, but maybe by 1/4 mile, and they’re all in the same complex, so it really doesn’t matter.
And I think that Eyebrows got the NJ Nets confused with the NY Jets. Both football teams are NY.
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What did I get wrong?
The Jets and Giants are NY, but the Nets are NJ. That’s what I said, right?
the other angels fan
Sorry, was Thingray.
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I knew the Nets were in NJ,
I just meant that if they move to Brooklyn, they’ll probably adopt the “NY” name instead of “Brooklyn”.
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I suppose so.
The “still” in your comment was what confused people, I think.
I’d assume they’d still be the “NY” Nets though.
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After reading this thread I feel dazed, and slightly confused.
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I think you're right.
Like I said in another post, I worded it funny.
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I don't think you'll see this happen again.
This is the only team I can think of that was named after a suburb.
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Not the same
but weren’t the A’s considering becoming the Fremont A’s if/when they ever make their move?
the other angels fan
I hadn't heard that,
but I think it would be a big mistake.
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That's more common with hockey though.
They tend to be okay with smaller markets.
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I also like when it goes the other way, like the New England Patriots, or the Golden State Warriors.
Teams that represent more than a city.
How about The Bible Belt Cowboys
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After Katrina the Saints briefly flirted with the idea of changing their name to the Gulf Coast Saints.
Fear the NPE
I'm sure in the weeks following Katrina
they could have just been the Gulf Saints
The M's already enjoy the largest sphere of influence in MLB.
Changing their name wouldn’t really make any difference as that location is already pretty firmly in Seattle’s hands. Fairbanks , AK has an affiliate that broadcasts every Mariners game for crying out loud.
Fear the NPE
I'm not even in your country and I think I'm in Mariners territory.
MLB, of course, disagrees, and blacks out all the Jays games on MLB.tv.
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The Blue Jay players have parents who love them
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more so than Expo games
Canada is the great expansion market for MLB, too bad there’s only minimal interest
Huh?
Where? Vancouver? Ottawa? Quebec?
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But like you said, minimal interest.
You can’t just name cities that have market size to support it.
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Your point?
Montreal has the population to support a team (and the Expos actually drew alright once they got good in the 80s). Problem is now a days there’s only minimal interest in baseball there.
I think we're both arguing the same point here.
Canada has markets that could support major sports teams, but no interest in baseball. The same could be said for a hockey team in Mexico City.
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There is an economic factor, I'll give you that.
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Pro hockey games, perhaps
But there are ‘professional sporting games’ in Mexico.
I think the point is that a team in Mexico City would have trouble competing in a North American league.
They would have to charge less which would lead to lower payroll etc etc etc.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
No what I mean is that I don't care how legit a soccer game is no one will pay to see it,
It could have been worded a tad bit better.
This isn't so.
Mexico City has the eighth largest urban income in the world.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah but how is it distributed?
Something tells me the average person couldn’t afford to pay $125 bucks to take their family to the ballgame on a Saturday night.
The average person here can't either! Not with this economy!
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According to wiki
Average household spending in the city was US$52,389 in 2006, up to five times of some of the provinces and twenty percent higher then the next-highest spending region (Nuevo Leon). This level of expenditure is close to that of an average household in Italy or France.
I realize that it is, of course, not the best source, but it backs up what I remember from my studies. The point is that Mexico, DF is much wealthier than the surrounding nation, and that it’s quite possible that if baseball were popular there then a team could be supported.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yes there's an average but how is it distrbuted
How much is at the top, the middle etc.
If the money is in the hands of a few I doesn’t help much when you have to draw 30,000 fans and sell a cable tv package to be viable
Ok, first of all there is a Mexican League baseball team in Mexico DF
Diablos Rojos de Mexico.
Second, tickets to the World Baseball Classic cost $248.
Third, my head hurts
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Found this in the wiki entry
The city’s GDP per capita is $22,696, the highest of any city in Latin America. However, this number is skewed by the small number of extremely rich households that shift the mean income upwards. The top decile of households in the entire country had a mean disposable income of US $98,517 in 2007, most of these are located in Mexico City. Their extremely high spending power makes the city attractive for luxury goods companies. The growth of luxury stores established in Mexico D.F. has been impressive since 2003, especially those dealing in luxury cars, designer clothes and expensive jewellery.
the other angels fan
In some sense it doesn't matter how it's distributed
So much of attendance revenue is now tilted towards luxury boxes that if this hypothetical club could sell a decent number to the ultra-rich, they could afford to sell cheaper tickets to the hoi polloi.
Second, if construction costs are a lot lower, they’d have a lot less debt to repay.
Third, the cable TV market is probably pretty lucrative down there. Hell, there’s a decent enough market for cable packages for US sports. The first team is going to have basically all of Mexico and a decent chunk of the southern US as supporters, the way the Jays/TSN have in Canada.
All in all, I think we’ll see a US-league pro team in Mexico City at some point in my lifetime. Baseball makes by far the most sense.
Huh. I'll be jiggered.
I knew it was really metropolitan and had something of a chip on its shoulder, but I didn’t know it was as wealthy as it is.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Most of those don't, though.
Calgary is just 1 million people, with effectively no metropolitan area. Plus, with the random seasons, and altitude, and the wind, it’s a terrible place to play baseball.
Edmonton’s a better suggestion (same size, lower altitude, less wind) as long as you’re willing to risk playing games at 10°F from time to time.
Quebec isn’t that big. Ottawa isn’t that big (and neither one is as wealthy as Calgary and Edmonton, which matters).
The only good expansion targets would be Vancouver and Montreal. But Seattle should complain about Vancouver, and there’s a stigma against Montreal because baseball already failed there (though that wasn’t Montreal’s fault).
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Yeah, agreed
The part about Baseball Mogul in the distant future was a joke. Edmonton would have to play indoors.
Retractable.
It would be a great place to play outdoors in the summer. But summer’s only reliably about 10 weeks long.
We had to genetically engineer wheat in order to grow it fast enough to avoid frost damage. It’s really fucking cold on the Canadian prairies.
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And yet they had an outdoor baseball stadium and a team in AAA
for quite some time. I wonder how many games they postponed per year…
Helps that the AAA season is shorter, of course.
Sure. The Edmonton Trappers.
And Calgary had a successful AAA team for years (the Calgary Cannons – a name that never made much sense), but with the wind and the thunderstorms and the like it wasn’t the best place to enjoy a game (and the altitude may well have messed up a few swings).
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Ah, the Cannons. M's affiliate through the glory years
of Edgar, Tino, Omar….
SS Danny Tartabull. Yes, SS...
Billy Swift, Mike Campbell, Erik Hansen, Dennis Powell…
And a little Jerry Narron for good measure, even.
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
And, dang...
If I couldn’t go back in time to catch even one home series in this season in Bellingham…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I loved seeing games in Bellingham.
Players had to use the same bathrooms as the crowd, autographs were easy to get after the games, and every seat was great. My parents took us to more games there than the Kingdome.
The cool part about asking for autographs was players were so young and new to being pros that they seemed surprised and grateful that kids wanted their autographs.
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Reminds me of Tacoma, a bit, really...
…Except by AAA you FINALLY get separate bathrooms in the locker room. Well at least the HOME team does…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
I've only been to Everett.
Other than my love of prospects, I could have passed on the experience.
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I haven't been to a minor league stadium since
about 1990, so I’d probably have a very different opinion of it now. I was also 7 to 12 years old when we were going to Bellingham, so I had a pretty different view of pro baseball players than I do now.
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I think the MLB is as warm weather a sport and the NHL is a cold weather.
If you look at distribution, there’s really no contest in terms of youth sports. All across the southern edge of the US is where the year round baseball leagues are, and good luck finding year round hockey programs in Arizona, for instance.
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There are independent leagues that operate in Canada, but there's not much interest.
I blame the team nicknames.
The Edmonton Cracker-Cats? Really?
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I know. It's funny.
I wish I didn’t know what it really meant.
The name is derived from the oil industry term “fluid catalytic cracking” (cat cracking for short), which is part of the process of refining crude oil into gasoline by converting high boiling hydrocarbons into smaller molecules.
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Funny little logo though.
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I like how much oil drives the local culture.
The Oilers. The Cracker Cats. Calgary’s lacrosse team is the Roughnecks.
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Better than naming them something that has nothing to do with the area I suppose.
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I love him and find his persistence endearing
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
It's the dolphins we need to worry about.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Way to respond to a reference to an awesome Futurama episode with a reference to a crappy Simpsons episode
I think he meant the Futurama episode.
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I have a shiny metal ass,
and a suggestion for you.
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No the Day of the Dolphins section of the Treehouse of Horror is hilarious.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't as good after season 10 but it still has its moments
and holy hell I have had this discussion about eleventy billion times too many.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
The first time I realized it had completely gone in the shitter
is when the spisode starring the Who wasn’t the least bit funny despite Roger Daltrey being a real actor.
Agreed
Season 7 is really really good, Seasons 8 and 9 were where the show started to get wacky, but at least it was entertaining and funny. Season 10 is where the show really started to fall off, and it was done by season 11.
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
When was the last time you watched seasons 7-10?
Seriously, they’re not good.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 14, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I watched season 5-10 this weekend.
They’re very very good.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Well, 10 is hit-or-miss.
7-9 are my favorites.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
What? Seriously?
Better than 4 and 5? That’s crazy.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 14, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Not really.
I love seasons 2-9 pretty much equally, but most of my favorite episodes are in seasons 7-9.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
I think the peak is 4-7
With the remainder of 1-9 being quality and 10 being OK
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
The Hank Scorpio episode was great.
The Rodney Dangerfield episode aired the next week (my least favorite episode ever) and it was hit or miss after that. The last episode I remember liking was where Springfield elementary was split by gender.
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There have been some pretty good episodes this season.
Treehouse of Horror was excellent.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Penguins live in the south.
That’s a huge pet peeve of mine. I hate seeing penguins on Christmas stuff.
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Because Santa Claus living at the north pole is so realistic.
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Yes.
Make sure he and his elves are comfortable while making and delivering billions of toys each year.
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Santa doesn't shop at Wal*Mart.
Somewhat surprisingly, he finds their labor practices abhorrent.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WalMart also would provide a slave army of cheerful, pointy-eared labor
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Slavery is illegal
I’ve known of several people who have worked at Wal*Mart and all were paid. Even the guy who crapped his pants twice.
Half of me desperately wants to hear this story,
and the other half wants to run away screaming.
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if half of you hears the story
do you only hear about one of the pants poopings?
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They pay them in chewing tobacco.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
No they pay them in US dollars.
No one that I know personally who works/has worked at Wal*Mart chews chaw.
SSS
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Well if they're working at Wal*Mrt they're not really people.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
More slaves, really.
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But it's an establish tradition.
Try explaining that to your kids. Santa’s at the north pole, but penguins live in Antarctica, so why the hell are they represented together so much?
Popular culture could at least try to make sense.
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I don't think kids put that much thought into it.
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The US has failed to beat Canada in something like 8 wars
by Graham MacAree on Jan 14, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
They beat the British in the War of 1812 so that has to count for something
by Robert on Jan 14, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We sing about it before every ball game
Corco gets violent when people suggest after 200 years it’s a bit played
Corco also obnoxiously stands and salutes the flag from the middle of the concourse to make sure everyone knows how patriotic he is
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I stop when the anthem plays (and remove my hat if necessary).
I was never in the military, so I don’t salute.
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We're only supposed to slaute if we're in uniform.
When not, in uniform we just stand at attention. We don’t put our hand over our heart.
If you don't make it obvious, how will the country know you love it?
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Valentine's day is just around the corner
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Let's not get started with this
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The Canadians were the British in the War of 1812
by Graham MacAree on Jan 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Here's how I understand the War of 1812.
Britain was conscripting US sailors to fight Napoleon, and the US was pissed about that. So, they invaded Canada to use that as a bargaining chip against the British.
The invasion of Canada was a spectacular failure, with almost every major battle taking place on US territory (if the front is in your country, you’re not winning). But, the British were also unable to capture any territory from the US, despite a very successful blockade of US ports.
With Napoleon defeated, the British were able to bring their full military might to bear against the US. The Duke of Wellington was asked to take command in Canada, and he wrote, in a letter to the Prime Minister, that sending him to Canada would be a huge waste of time. As he said it, the line defined by the great lakes couldn’t be passed by either side without naval superiority on those lakes, but neither side had any chance of achieving that. He did, however, suggest that capturing New Orleans might allow the British to trade it back to the US in exchange for Maine.
Despite Wellington’s assurances, the British shipped 20,000 soldiers to Montreal, who did no good at all, because the front was simply too big for either side to do anything with.
And then they negotiated peace.
So, if the US goal was to get the British to stop conscripting their sailors, that did happen, but mostly because after Napoleon was defeated the British had no need for American sailors.
The war basically served no purpose at all save to give us something to laugh at. We’re taking about battles involving literally dozens of men with maybe 4 cannons to a side.
Canadians take far too much pride in that war (mostly for having burned down the White House).
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You left out my favorite part!
Where Andrew Jackson attacked the British after peace had been negotiated, though I suppose he’s off the hook for that one since it took the news awhile to reach him.
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That's a good part
probably the most lopsided defeat for the British.
Still, Llewdor is right, and the ‘We won the war of 1812!’ spiel only works if you leave out the parts where we lost.
I didn't say he was wrong.
I just like the part where we Pearl Harbored the British.
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And the same goes for Canadians.
Canadians often claim that we won the war of 1812, but we didn’t really.
Nothing came of it. It may as well have never happened (though it did neatly demonstrate that state militias weren’t an effective offensive force).
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A tonne of minor border wars out west.
by Graham MacAree on Jan 14, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
We used to have land north of Montana/North Dakota :(
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But we got Maine and Washington State from you fuckers
Hell, we’ve even maintained control of Point Roberts
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I don't know why you wanted Point Roberts.
54-40 or fight didn’t really amount to much.
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Just so we can say we can have it
And to allow people the ability to live a Canadian lifestyle within American soil. Hyder Alaska is the same way but cooler
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I'm a fan of "It's Ok"
but mostly because of the bas ass cover Pearl Jam did of it years ago. It was on their live DVD “Touring Band”
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
As having seen this in person, yes it is awesome
but it’s not as cool as the Spanish version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-ajvoGx8Y
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's cool that Eddie is down with Dead Moon and all
but I am NOT okay with him fucking with Fred’s lyrics.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
I would hardly calling it fucking with the lyrics
He does the same thing with the lyrics to Rockin’ in the Free World and Blue, Red, and Grey
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
I know but I'm really protective of Dead Moon because the world never really appreciated their genius.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
Hey and now you have a really famous guy who loves them turning people on to their music
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
if only he could do it without messing with the lyrics though
I wouldn’t want someone to show me a Mona Lisa with a mustache.
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I think you misunderstand
They’ve never performed the whole song, it’s just a call/response with the audience set to the music of Daughter. It’s not a full song, just a tag.
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Like anyone thinks that's not a Pearl Jam song they never recorded.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well Eddie does say it's a Dead Moon song
so there’s that. Plus I absolutely love that song.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Most people don't because it's not on any of their albums and always played as part of the improv during Daughter
and on the video it’s captioned “It’s Ok by: Dead Moon”
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
I know Eddie loves Dead Moon and I have actually rocked out next to him at Dead Moon shows.
It’s more ongoing frustration with the world for not making Fred and Toody rich.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
I guess if you not a fan it may bug you
but he’s always changing lyrics to every thing his songs, Clash Songs, Neil Young songs, Pink Floyd songs, Beatles songs, Who songs, his own songs, his bandmates’ songs it’s done out of love, and it’s done to make the performances unique and unpredictable and it’s not meant to offend.
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I know.
I’m not a huge PJ fan but Eddie is definitely a good egg.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
And I enjoy this about his covers
Why do a cover if it’s going to be the exact same song that the original artist performed? Might as well put your own spin on it.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I cried every time I saw this song live.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
That's how I feel about the PJ version
I loved how he gave the crowd a part in the chorus. I really need to see PJ live.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Pig War = win for US (eventually)
Oregon boundary fight even was somewhat of a victory for us.
Yessir, they really WHOOPED YOUR HIDE
No they didn’t…Vietnam was a tie!
by waldo rojas on Jan 14, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Are those the only two teams that do that?
I can’t think of another one off the top of my head. Minnesota Twins?
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Florida Marlins
Texas Rangers
Colorado Rockies
Arizona Diamondbacks, Cardinals
etc.
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I was thinking the Twins because they do the "TC" thing on their caps.
But I can’t think of any other teams that are named for an area, or a nickname for a state.
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New England Patriots and Golden State were the two listed above.
I’m trying to figure out if there are any others.
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I always thought it was a city
but google seems to indicate that you are correct and I am not.
the other angels fan
Tampa and St. Petersburg are cities,
but “Tampa Bay” is not.
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I... always thought... that dogs... laid eggs.
I… learned something…. today
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I like them.
Who says your fan base is limited to that one city? So many teams don’t even play in the city their named after anyway.
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It seems like a weak attempt to pander to the fan base
I’m not stupid, I know if it weren’t for Boston there’d be no Patriots.
New England is a very small geographic area though
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The Denver Dudes
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They could be sponsored by McDonalds
and call themselves the Denver McNuggets.
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Still a very large population base.
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True, but they aren't all in Boston which is why they are the New England Patriots.
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Sorry, didn't get your point at first.
Consider me to be supporting your argument.
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It would be different if they changed their name (like the Angels),
but since they started out that way, I think it’s cool.
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They moved to the NFL, and moved out of Boston,
therefore they changed the name. Makes sense to me, and it’s the only name the club has had as an NFL team.
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well it should be the New England Jack Bauers, as he is really what patriotism means
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There's at least one state level politician that advocates for this every year,
and usually a couple of hastily dropped lawsuits.
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Not nec that name, but turning the NY back into NJ.
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You mean exit 16 W right?
Because 16W is a completely different exit and leads you to Old Jersey instead.
by Matthew on Jan 14, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HOLY CRAP YOU'RE RIGHT
That’s why I always ended up in Kentucky when I was trying to get to the Meadowlands.
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I thought it was "Exit The 16 W" though...
Because Exit 16 W takes you to the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople.
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Spacing doesn't apply in exits as there is no set precedent where exit #x leads to a different situation then # x
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This offtopic took long enough to get to the first page.
I was starting to get a little antsy.
the other angels fan
Before the Bears rebuilt (and ruined) Soldier Field,
they considered moving to a suburb or starting from scratch and destroying Soldier Field.
Mayor Daley told them: The Columns of Soldier Field will remain, they are iconic. Feel free to move the football team out of Soldier Field, but then you will no longer be the Chicago Bears. You will have to be the Downer’s Grove Bears or the Naperville Bears.
They stayed, and consequently landed an Alien spacecraft in soldier field.
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That's gotta be the ugliest NFL stadium in existence.
But good for Daley. Chicago knows how to get things done.
Man do I love midgets.
It's strange seeing the stadium the way it is, especially in the context of the other museums in the area.
Both the Field Museum and Shedd Aquarium have classic architecture, and so does the base of Soldier… I can’t understand why they did to it what they did.
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You got me.
From what I’ve heard, everyone in Chicago hates it too.
Man do I love midgets.
Arizona's new stadium is pretty hideous.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 14, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
But at least it's meant to look like something indigineous to the area.
Plus the whole thing has one look, instead of looking like the crap I used to make with mixed Lego sets as a kid.
Man do I love midgets.
It's supposed to look like a cactus
but it looks like a finished pan of Jiffy Pop.
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I'll give you that.
The moveable field tray is pretty cool though. I didn’t like the “Bird’s Nest” at the Olympics either.
Man do I love midgets.
I really did like the Bird's Nest
just because it was so completely different from anything I’d ever seen, stadium-wise. In that same vein I also like the Allianz Arena.
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The Birds Nest was sweet
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Looks like an ugly tire normally.
But when you see the pictures of it lit up, that’s pretty cool. The Birds Nest was amazing as far as the engineering and all of that, but as far as being nice to look at, I didn’t enjoy it.
Man do I love midgets.
what, you mean the University of Phoenix Diaphragm?
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I was sure hoping that Pink Taco would win the naming rights.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 14, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
that would have been the most unfathomable choice
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That would have been the most awesome choice.
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So, the NHL's salary cap is killing small market teams.
Didn’t I say this would happen? A salary floor (which unions always demand in combination with a salary cap) means that small hockey markets can’t afford teams.
There have been a lot of calls for the NHL to move teams back to cities like Winnipeg, Quebec, and Hartford, but those cities couldn’t afford a $40 million payroll hockey team right now anyway, and that’s the minimum.
The Phoenix Coyotes will likely be the first team to fail (and the league can’t be honest about that without exposing the pyramid scheme that is expansion fees), but they actually have bigger problems. They’re tied into a 30 year lease in an arena that was built as part of a failed sububan development. So now no one lives near the arena, and going to the arena reminds everyone of how much their lives suck.
The NHL needs to overhaul completely their financial model, and probably get smaller.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
After the shut down, you would have think they could have gotten it right.
Man do I love midgets.
That's less the NHL's fault than the economy's, though
They’re tied into a 30 year lease in an arena that was built as part of a failed suburban development. So now no one lives near the arena,
The Phoenix area is one of the hardest-hit areas in the country as far as real estate – largely because of developments like the one in Glendale, which was almost entirely built on spec. Construction of that part of Glendale started when times were good – they started building in 2006 – and didn’t end until mid-last year, which is when the bottom dropped out. And don’t forget that in Phoenix, no one lives near ANYTHING – driving from suburb to suburb is how they live down there, so that’s not so much of an issue as far as the Coyotes’ troubles go.
The main issue is that Phoenix is IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRICKING DESERT and as such has no history with hockey – it was a novelty for them when the Coyotes started, and when Gretzky was named manager, but now it’s back to being a tiny niche in a city of golfers, baseball players, and Cardinals fans.
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That main issue is the thing I blame on the league.
The failed property developments I’m getting enough of up here. The construction of the Olympic Village is funded entirely by pre-sales of the condos they’re going to be after the games. Except no one’s buying.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Yeah, the league got way too greedy in the 90's
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Yeah, Seattle's an excellent market for the NHL.
Winnipeg is too small, but Seattle isn’t. Seattle would be awesome, and there’s a natural rival just to the north.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
So does anyone else still like Ladytron?
I assumed I would grow out of it, but here we are, almost ten years later and I still love them.
Anyone ever get up to get ready to go to work and then realize they're out of pants?
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That's what the dirty clothes pile is for.
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Find the cleanest pair.
Man do I love midgets.
Febreeze is your friend.
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Febreze
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I never use it, so I wouldn't know.
Seems stupid to name it that, when you need the long e sound.
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that is a good rapper name
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apropos of nothing?
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I've missed something entirely. What movie are you referencing
that apparently involves some facsimile of Justin Long?
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indeed I have not.
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Do it now.
Not the best movie ever, but is hilarious in parts.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
I think its just the concept of the movie which is fascinating.
And yea, its a stupid comedy, but still has its funny moments.
It'd be hard to make it better.
I know it has its flaws and all, but a good third act for this movie would be really hard to do.
the other angels fan
The e at the end gives you the long E sound.
A vowel followed by a single consonant and then another vowel is long – standard English prnunciation rules.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Breeze is the root of that word.
I understand the concept, but stick with the conventions that you go into it with.
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General you, not specific.
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Use a wooden barrel and suspenders.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Then things like this happen
http://improveverywhere.com/missions/the-no-pants-subway-ride/
The first ride included 7 participants, all male. One participant entered the train pantless for 7 consecutive stops. They pretended not to notice each other, and if asked claimed that they "just forgot" their pants. On the 8th stop, someone came through with a duffle bag selling pants for $1. No photographs were taken, but the above video was captured with our single a hidden camera.
The guy with the pants fort sale is what takes it from funny to hilarious.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Besides wrapping yourself in football players?
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Although I can see you doing this already.
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I'd make a really badass watch with them
by Graham MacAree on Jan 14, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
this sounds scary
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Did I somehow miss a reference to this story?
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions
Considering the cost of raising a child I'd say he is a shrewed business man.
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
and he got meat!
MEAT!
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Meat! Beer!
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The gift that keeps on giving.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
thats a good typo
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and some day old chuck roast
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How about
Student auctions off virginity for $3.7 million?
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She's nasty
and why would you pay a lot for sex with a virgin anyway? That sucks. I’d rather go with a pro.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Richard Simmons is not a virgin.
At least not in the broad sense.
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She looks like she might be a dude with implants
ew
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Waka did an interview on KJR this morning.
When asked about the usual questions about Ichiro’s supposed selfishness and lack of leadership Waka responded with something along the lines of “What the fuck are you on?”*
*Not really, but Waka said that it was stupid to blame the problems of last season on Ichiro and that vocal leaders are overrated.
Said that the Mariners will go into spring training with Brandon Morrow getting every chance to be a starter. Also said they plan to work on Felix’s high pitch-count problems as well as teaching him to use his pitch selection more appropriately.
I can't wait for when we get to blame Felix's poor starts on Jeff.
by JI on Jan 14, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
OH LOOK ANOTHER FUCKING SLIDER
WHAT A SURPRISE
the other angels fan
by Eyebrows on Jan 14, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Has anybody heard of Funny or Diet? Some of this stuff had me rolling.
NSFW, unless a 2 year old calling Will Farrell a bitch is ok with your boss. Will Farrell’s Landlady.
Formerly dpseadvr.
I would assume most everyone has heard of funny or die, especially "The Landlady"
Funny or Diet would be a good mashup of the celebrity weightloss shows mixed with Last Comic Standing.
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Even more shocking, Ricardo Montalbon is dead.
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Obviously not as important, because he didn't get a BREAKING NEWS!!!! banner on MSNBC.
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Le Plane Came! Le Plane Came!
And took Ricardo away…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
I remember the story about Shop Rite
not wanting to make the cake. Funny stuff. In other shitty baby names I knew a girl in middle school named LaTrina, which was pretty awesome. And a pediatrician friend of mine delivered a kid whose parents wanted to name their child after a flower and so they went with Gonorrhea.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Some great recent names from our local hospital
“Shithead” – ’it’s pronounced Shə-THEED’ and twins named ‘Drone’ and ‘Clone.’
which also included the instant classics,
Lemonjello and Orangejello, pronounced Le-MON-gelo and o-RON-gelo
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really? that's just... wow.
My favorites are still D’Brickashaw (Ferguson, LT for the Jets) and Lacedarius (Dunn, of the Baylor Bears)
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My buddy (who is white) named his son Aneus.
Pronounced Uh-knee-us. I used to call him Lil’ Anus.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Aneus and not Aeneus? at least that's tied to mythology
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there are both. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt in using the u,
but clearly Aeneas is a superior namesake. Aeneas Williams was a good football player, and I enjoyed him more because of his name.
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Yep. That's how it's spelled. Mine was a typo.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
I've always thought the most badass thing you could name a kid
would be Prometheus. However I would never go so far as to name a kid that.
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It'd be a cool name as an adult but horrible as a kid.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
If you ask me,
the worst is when people name kids things like “Buster”, “Junior” or “Bubba” as their legal name.
Man do I love midgets.
Brothers..
Boss and Champ Bailey
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well damn me for not looking it up
I misremembered that they were actually named that.
Sort of like how BJ (Upton) stands for Bossman Junior, bu the is actually named Melvin. My bad.
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And people told me naming my son Silas was weird...
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Reminds me of the old church camp song...
“Two for Paul and (pause) SI-LAS!”
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Mine is named Eyan
Pronounced E-In
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by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
You're insane, and I no longer trust you. What a monster.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Whatever
Go to hell
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by tootthekazoo on Jan 15, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
You know I was joking, right?
I mean, you’re still a monster, but your son’s name is cool.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Because when his grandmother began calling him that, I found it funny.
My buddy wouldn’t be my buddy if he didn’t have a sense of humor.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
D'Brickashaw is a classic but what about
Ovington J’Anthony? As in Ovington J’Anthony Mayo? There are other that I cannot remember at this time as well.
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I actually made a list with my buddy a few years back
which consisted of us combing thinking through every major sports team and picking out the winners.
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Wow.
The parents did their kids no favors by naming them as they did, but taking them seems a bit much.
Shoulda just made your own cake, guys . . .
Yeah, unless any sort of abuse can be proven
it seems a little strong to actually take the kids.
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Though giving the kids those names doesn't exactly scream "GREAT PARENTS" at you
whether or not you’re a white supremacist, I can’t see the logic in giving your children names which will almost certainly inhibit them later in life
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I suspect we haven't heard everything reguarding this case.
I’m not saying that CPS definitively had enough reason to do it. However, with these parents I’d be kind of surprised if there wasn’t all sorts of evidence to warrant the decision. I’ll wait and see what else pops up before coming to a conclusion, though.
Yeah, I'm the same way
Plenty of kids have survived having douchey parents, so I’m inclined to think there was more going on here.
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That's not necessarily why they took them.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap hot chocolate with Bailey's in it is the nectar of the gods.
Anyone else have any favorite cold weather drinks?
very cold vodka
pickle chaser. Can’t be beat.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Grew up there
vodka needs to be good. you were either drinking bad vodka, doing it wrong, or just don’t have a taste for strong drink. bet there’s nothing like -20 degree vodka with good chaser and a bowl of borscht
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 14, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Really? Awesome
I’ve been to St. Petersburg a couple of times. It’s one of my favorite cities in the world. I think it’s more just me being not so much a fan of vodka straight up. Even super cold like that. If I’m drinking straight liquor I prefer a good dark rum.
I've had an apple cider drink with a shot of something in it, delicious.
What kind of hard alcohol goes well with cider?
Formerly dpseadvr.
I'd think rum and bourbon would be ideal.
Vodka might work well too if it wasn’t mixed very strong.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Spiced rum would do the trick certainly
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Wasn't even funny the first twenty six times.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I am sorry.
You set me up for it. I couldn’t help it. I wasn’t aware it was used before, even though I am not surprised if it was.
Rumpleminze
In hot chocolate is tasty. My roommate used to always do shots of this. Ugh. One drunken night my biddy and I ran out of Crown Royal so I dug under the couch and took a warm shot of Rumpies. Bad Idea
by Willie Mays Haze on Jan 14, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Fireball Island.
Best board game ever.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 14, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I tried making pan fried noodles last night using rice noodles.
They rapidly tried to become a solid lump in the bottom of the wok. Has anyone else tried doing this, and can you tell me what I did wrong?
Man do I love midgets.
Keep it moving.
It’s like watching the guys in the back of a Chinese place, they never let anything sit for more than a second. Also, how heavy were your noodle/sauce, because I can see that having an effect.
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I frantically tried to keep everything moving,
and all I was using was a little soy sauce and some sesame oil. I think I might have made the batch to big, or screwed up on preparing the noodles in the first place.
Man do I love midgets.
Separate them?
Ummm. No.
I prepared them as per the instructions on the packet, then left them in the sink to drain while the chicken/broccoli/garlic cooked, then dumped them in straight out of the strainer.
Man do I love midgets.
That would be the issue.
Drain them while rinsing with cold water and stirring.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I find it's also important to cook them only for 3-4 minutes.
Then set them aside. After that they can get mushy.
Mushy wasn't a problem, sticky was.
I didn’t rinse the rice noodles, are you supposed to do that?
Man do I love midgets.
And above apparently.
Man do I love midgets.
Soak them AFTER cooking them as recommended on the packaging?
Or simply soak them for 30-45 minutes as the method of cooking?
Man do I love midgets.
I was trying your recipe NOLA,
It tasted great, but my noodles got kind fo sticky/clumpy.
Man do I love midgets.
Sorry I forgot the warning about that...
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 14, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I think I made the batch a bit too big as well.
Man do I love midgets.
Tell ya,
good the next day too! Much better than the crappy lunch options around here.
Man do I love midgets.
So soak, then boil,
Then add to the pan without rinsing.
Man do I love midgets.
Somehow I think we've got two different cooking methods going on here.
My mom does pan fried noodles by:
1)Prep by soaking in warm water for 30 minutes prior to cooking
2)Using a wok or pan, set the stove to high heat and dump noodles in. Use two large spoons to constantly toss the noodles. (Make sure there is a bit of water in the pan to keep the noodles from burning). No boiling
3)After noodles are soft and cooked, rinse then dump back into wok
4)Add sauce, veggies, meats.
Yep, different approach.
I see where youre going with that though, I might try it that way sometime.
Man do I love midgets.
Depending on the noodles you have
Make sure you separate and soak them in warm water for about 30-45 minutes prior to cooking, use high heat in the pan, toss the noodles constantly making sure there’s a bit of water in the pan, and add the sauce after the noodles are cooked.
(This is per my Cambodian mother who I’m on the phone with right now)
confirmed. This is the method.
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And uh hey be a real friend and maybe forward that to recipe to me?
No worries if family recipe’s are a close held secret, there are some of those in my family so I’m familiar with that.
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Nah I'm sure she won't mind.
Soon as I get it I’ll send you a copy.
I actually cooked my wife's favorite meal...
…without looking at one page of the recipe book I normally use as a reference for cooking it.
I guess you can say it’s become MY family recipe.
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
BOTD???
The pan in the bottom-left corner of the stove is bacon and onions in prep for the Kartoffelsalat…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
That looks like a pretty complicated meal
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Okay a lot of you know I am a Paramore fan, enough so that one could call me a Paramore apolagist.
But have any of y’all ever heard their cover of Sunday Bloody Sunday? Righteous political rage coming from Hayley’s voice is just kind of odd. It just fails on so many levels. I hate it when a band I love produces a terrible cover of a song by another band I love.
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I can't imagine wanting to hear such a thing
and that’s nothing against Paramore, I just can’t imagine ANYONE covering that song in any sort of satisfactory way.
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Exactly. It's just so weird and totally wrong for them. They love U2, but there are much bettersuited songs they could try to cover.
Their cover of Jimmy Eat World’s Hear You Me is pretty good though.
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Totally off topic, but there was a roughneck who got through the first round of American Idol last night.
I know, I know, but the show fascinates me.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
I heard about that guy actually.
I don’t watch until they trim to at least five people. While I was in Hawaii I went to a show featuring Jasmine Trias.
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I'd bet he sings rock songs.
But the image of a roughneck, complete with drilling mud covered boots, greased stained clothes, and hard hat belting out “I will always love you” by Whitney Houston made me snort. Hot coffee.
Formerly dpseadvr.
I'll root for him as long as he represents us and rock well.
In other words, don’t be a Daughtry sized douche bag.
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Found a country song about working offshore on a drill rig. GOM of course.
20 Miles From Shore, Hawkshaw Hawkins. GOM of course.
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*Dolly Parton
Sorry, but I loves me some Dolly and I insist she get credit where credit is due.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
If I remember correctly, Whitney sued Dolly over the use of that song.
Whenever I think of that show, every contestant is belting out that song.
Formerly dpseadvr.
Actually I once saw Dolly say in an interview that Whitney had done the better job on that song.
She was very gracious about it.
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Actually, from what I remember through my wine haze, he had a pretty standard contemporary voice - not that Daughtry/Nickelback yowl.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Speaking of Paramore I have this fear about them.
While they do have a very good drummer, musically they are nothing special. The guitarist rarely takes any risks and their music has a very polished and radio friendly quality. They totally survive based on Hayley Williams voice and awww shucks girly cuteness. She would probably be better off artistically and financially if she just went solo. Of course half the charm about her is that she insists Paramore is a band and not just Hayley and her back up.
I can only hope that their single off the twilight soundtrack is a sign that they will try to challenge themselves to write more unique music.
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They will be the Female Foo Fighters in about 5 years
and there’s nothing really wrong with that, if that’s what they want to do – there are worse business models to follow. Churning out unchallenging, radio-friendly pop/rock has paid Dave Grohl’s bills quite nicely for the last 15 years.
Of course, the argument there is that bands shouldn’t follow business models, but that’s a whole ’nother can of worms.
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I'd be happy with that.
As long as everything stays consistently good with the occasional masterpiece like Everlong or Best of You thrown in there, I’d call that a good body of work.
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Ehh, I don't like seeing them compared to Foo Fighters.
Musically, Paramore is leagues below Foo Fighters as far as music goes. As far as popularity, they could be the same.
I think "leagues" is a little harsh.
I mean they are no the Mars Volta by any stretch of the imagination but they do have talent.
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True.
I think they would be above maybe, what, Britney Spears or Katy Perry in talent. But I don’t really think of them as a real rock band like Foo Fighters. They are kind of hovering around that emo hipster area. Not quite there, but kind of pandering to that crowd.
What the hell has happened to the words emo and hipster?
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
I had a big argument with my buddy as I tried to explain that Paramore is not Emo.
They are just a pop/rock band. Real emo is some hardcore shit.
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I just don't understand how emo came to mean "whiney alt-pop"
and hipster became of subgenre of mainstream fashion.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Right but they don't usually evolve into meaning the exact opposite of what they meant originally.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
True, but emo has had a musical change in the last few years.
It’s widely thought that Weezer were the grandfathers of emo. Next came Sunny Day Real Estate. A few years ago, the sound was somewhat adopted by punk and hardcore (primarily straightedge) bands. Now it’s an umbrella to which quite a few genres reside.
I prefer terms like, “something I would listen to,” and “something I would not listen to.” If I need to explain the sound to someone, I’ll break down the musical components that the band exhibits, rather than use some term that may confuse people.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
by kevin_ess on Jan 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd say emo predates Weezer by at least ten years.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
What 80's bands do you have in mind?
The Cure? Does Fugazi count?
I know I shouldn’t, but I’ve always considered Diary and Pinkerton to be cornerstones of the genre.
Rites of Spring and a bunch of other D.C./Dischord stuff.
Fugazi, maybe even later Minor Threat. You could make an argument for Husker Du as well. Jawbreaker and Sunny Day Real Estate were both around before Weezer.
I don’t have a problem with Weezer being classified as emo at all though, I just think maybe it should have stopped being called emo after Pinkerton came out because there’s really not a whole lot of connection between the mid-80s stuff and what people call emo nowadays. I just tend to think of that stuff as alt-rock anyway.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot all about Rites of Spring
Never got into Jawbreaker.
Agreed about Weezer. Everything they’ve done this decade has as much connection to emo as modern Dylan has to folk.
They were good
I prefer Cap’n Jazz for that early 90s emo thing.
SDRE was always my fave for that, but Cap’n Jazz is great. Too bad I, and pretty much everyone else, didn’t know them when they were around – just that Jade Tree reissue thingy in the mid 90s.
AC – I think it’s clear that what WE mean by ‘emo’ and what most everyone means now are totally different, and have no relation to each other. Kevin’s probably right that many think of Weezer as emo godfathers, which mean it’s a totally unrelated, distinct genre. Not saying it’s bad or good, it’s just confusing as hell.
I STILL don’t know what this new version of ‘hipster’ is supposed to mean, but oh well.
Weezer is not the granddaddy of emo
But I see ac has already covered who is.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jan 15, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
I said many people think that to be true.
I did not say I did.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
Maybe it's a regional dialect?
I’m with you, ac, I can’t make heads or tails of that sentence.
To be quite honest, I am so out of the MTV loop, I don't know what is up to date.
I just assumed emo and hipster are thrown around by the mainstream media. Such as calling Fall out boy emo and White Stripes hipster, even though both I guess wouldn’t be either respectively because they both sold out? I have no idea. I can’t watch MTV for more than 10 minutes without getting suicidal thoughts.
There are 'emo' bands who are techincally phenomenal musicians and songwriters
Genre is not the same as musical talent.
Unless it’s jazz.
by Graham MacAree on Jan 14, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
You're not alone...
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who thought of thewyrm when seeing that…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
The guy kept driving home the point that his job was the fifth most dangerous in the world.
I mentioned to my wife that in no way does being a roughneck beat “Bangkok Hooker.”
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
I thought commercial fishing and Bangkok hooking were the same thing.
Formerly dpseadvr.
The hookers wear t-shirts that read, "I'd rather be fishing."
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
And did you catch that fake-ass rocker who kept crying?
Pure gold.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
He's a closet Manilow fan.
And, man, you should see his Yanni collection!
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Huh.
Youtube is muting videos that feature unauthorized copyrighted music.
Hell, they even muted the Rick Roll.
How will I ever get wacky cat videos now?
And I hope to god the Benny Hill theme is in the public domain or that will be the end of comedy.
(yup, not bothered about youtube becoming a ghost town)
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Hey, I know!
Rick Roll EVERYONE by replacing the audio track with that song…
Okay, so muting’s better.
Still, this is quite lame.
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by PositivePaul on Jan 14, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
That's the stupidest thing they could ever have done
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I've been listening to Run-DMC's Raising Hell and NWA's Straight Outta Compton all afternoon
and I forgot how much I love 80’s/early 90’s rap. Any other good examples of that era of rap that I may not know about*? I’ve always kinda been a fan of Too Short, but I know only a couple songs of his – are any of his albums good?
*Digital Underground = not good
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
*Also I already own other Run-DMC and NWA albums
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Yeah, after I wrote that I thought of all the caveats
I’ve got some Ice-T (nothing after O.G, though), the aforementioned other Run-DMC, other NWA, and even the odd 2 Live Crew.
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I love and have always loved and will always love Sir Mix-A-Lot.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I only have Swass and it's fantastic
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Early Ice Cube, very solid.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
Gods, I hate that song.
I even remember the lyrics.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
My faves from the early to mid-90s
(was a bit too young to be paying attention in the late 80s)
Nas – Illmatic
Wu-Tang – Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
B.I.G. – Ready to Die
Mobb Deep – The Infamous
GZA – Liquid Swords
Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Any Tribe album
Dr. Dre – The Chronic
Snoop Dogg – Doggystyle
Souls of Mischief – 97 ’til Infinity
Ghostface – Ironman
2Pac – All Eyez On Me
Might not be your cup of tea, but since you asked . . . and yeah, I have a pretty heavy Wu-Tang and Death Row bias.
I mentioned this in an OTFPOTD a few days ago.
Just plain wrong, isn’t it?
The marketing makes me want to stab people, but I get where it's targeting.
And I really like the idea.
I heard about that here.
Maybe last week.
Interesting idea. Terrible ad campaign.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Can somebody explain why
this old article is number 3 on the Seattle times recent most read list (scroll down).
Smells like something 4chan would do.
It's pretty much always on their most read list.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting read
I can verify the upper left and middle work. When May rolls around and we see the sun again, I’ll give the lower right a go.
interesting indeed. Although I have no real desire to trick my brain into thinking I stabbed my hand
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
That was a good read.
I am willing to try some of those out as well. The static one especially seems interesting.
Hmm, Im going to try it when I get home
I have a white noise app on my ipod, I am wondering if that is comparible, and it the different noises (such as pink noise, brown noise, blue noise, white noise, etc.) would show something different.
That fake hand trick works, they use something like that for phantom pain relief.
Used to work with a guy that had lost a leg, he said the phantom sensation nearly drove him insane before he was cured.
Formerly dpseadvr.
No, some therapy involving a fake limb and mirrors.
It was interesting, trained his mind to recognize the limb was missing so it would stop receiving signals from nerves that were no longer there. He said it felt like his foot was alternately cramping, or he was walking on tiptoe. I think it was something similar to this study. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/21/2206
The first time I worked with him he popped out of the water after a dive and threw his leg on the deck, freaked me out. I hadn’t realized it was gone below the knee. This kind of stuff is neat, it’s parlor tricks but there’s applications. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an expert, I’m just slightly familiar with this one because I worked with a guy
Formerly dpseadvr.
You know
That’s a game I somehow never played.
Despite never going to real college
Beer pong is one of the very few things that I am naturally good at.
Hmmm.
I’m curious how much Apple’s stock dropped today…
Only 2.7% – actually above what the market itself dropped today (2.9%)…
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Anyone know what his medical condition is?
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Kenji Johjima couldn't catch him.
This makes me quite sad
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Wow Hyundai has a great promotion out now
If I go buy a new Hyundai and then lose my job within a year I can give it back. That makes me want to buy a Hyundai, especially since it means the Koreans are giving us free stuff
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How is that free though?
I assume that “give it back” doesn’t entail a full refund of payments made to that point.
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That's the impression I get
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I was just reading the small print
and you have to have made at least two payments, and then Hyundai determines the value of your car, and “provided you have made at least two scheduled payments on your loan or lease, you pay for the amount above the Hyundai Assurance benefit (if anything) and any car payments that were due prior to your filing for the benefit”, after which you can walk away with no negative impact to your credit. So, not free.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
Well fuck that then
There was a chance I was going to actually consider buying a Korean car but no more
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That's still a pretty cool promo and it makes tons of sense for them.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it's not a bad deal at all
considering that if you get laid off you can give the car back and only be out $1000 or a bit is not too shabby.
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It will definitely sell a lot of Hyundais
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I'm sure it will sell a shit ton
I still get emails from the HMFC district manager, so I have a copy of all the fine details if anybody is interested.
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by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
My only question is is the offer valid on Genesi?
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Anything financed through HMFC, if I understand it correctly
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by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
You know who's really, really good?
Andrei Kirilenko. I’m not a big NBA guy, but boy, he is something.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions
AK is a fantasy monster because he gets lots of blocks and steals
in reality, he’s a good but overrated defender and an average or slightly-below average offensive player. He’s merely an adequate shooter for a forward and has very little 1 on 1 game. He is a good passer, but coupled with only average ball-handling skills make for a combination of a slightly above average player. Nothing close to the star his fantasy stats suggest he is.
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
I thought fantasy sports were reality though
at least that’s how it looks down here in the basement.
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I stand corrected. That's really excellent analysis, even if you did just blast my favorite basketball player.
Actually, no. My favorite basketball player is Stephen Curry.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Well, same here, but damn he's good.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
This I will agree with you on
Stephen Curry is a beast.
Not sure how he’ll do in the NBA, but he’s one of the best college players I’ve ever seen
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
He reminds me of Ray Allen.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
In that he's seen as a pure shooter, but he's actually a great passer, and plays pretty good defense (not that that really matters in the NBA)
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Curry is a decent college defensive player because he can defend opposing ones
he’s going to be a huge liability in the NBA because the ones will be too quick for him and he’s way to small to guard an average two
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Except the whole thing how Ray Allen is five inches taller and a genuinely outstanding athlete
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Did you play basketball in high school?
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 14, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Eh. I'm white, and I go to... well...I'm enrolled at two schools, but nevermind that...
And I’ve been playing basketball since 6th grade.
Big Z is the MAN.
by .Taylor on Jan 15, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Being a basketball fan has brought me my only sporting joys
by seattlebruin on Jan 15, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
I went to the most prestigious basketball high school in the state of Washington
and then to the most prestigious basketball college in the world, and I root for the Seahawks and Mariners. What else was supposed to happen?
by seattlebruin on Jan 20, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
And also a sign that it's time to go home.
by Aaron Campeau on Jan 14, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
I was nearly roped into pulling an all nighter with my boss (my dad) tonight
But he would have to teach me several different things he has to do and just couldn’t spare the time. I feel bad for him, because he literally has a fucking pile of estimates to write, let alone all of the year end tax stuff which is due by the 31st. And he arrived at work at 4 this morning. Owning and running a business seems to suck quite a bit
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by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
But at least you get the satisfaction of owning and running your own business
as opposed to being some tiny little person in a 120,000+ employee company
Also, you might enjoy this
by seattlebruin on Jan 14, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
That is way more info than I am able to process right now
But that could come in handy, for sure.
I think the issue with his business is that it isn’t quite large enough to warrant having dedicated people to handle the books and stuff, but it’s not small enough to easily handle doing it solo like he is. I mean, when things are normal for us, he works from 5 am until 7-8 at night. That’s normal for him. As of now, we are super busy (yay snow!) and it is tax time for him. He’s putting in 20 hour days. Insanity. I hope it is easier to handle by time I step into his spot
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by tootthekazoo on Jan 14, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of the administrative stuff will get more streamlined as you get into it more.
Having two people working on two sets of paperwork helps a lot.
Also, If you’re spending that much time on taxes and assorted accounting you need done, maybe it’s time to call in a part time guy. There are agencies that you can hire someone 2/3 days a week (or less), even for specialized work like accounting or tax prep. Hell, having a decent secretary for 2 days a week might do you wonders, depending on where your bottleneck is.
Once you get into knowing what he does, don’t be afraid to ask questions and suggest. When someone does something for years, they oftentimes don’t even see another way of doing it. Even the most reticent person will see some value in having a new set of eyes looking at things.
I went through this with my dad’s tree business. It turns out he was doing everything by hand, and it was taking him so much time to do paperwork after that would usually get home around 9-10 each night. When I came to live with him he didn’t want me to even suggest any changes, but once I showed him the wonders of an Excel database for basic entry work, digital contacts, and spending a few bucks to have his taxes done out of house (one meeting with an accountant once a month for an hour, and 15-20 hours billable work per month), he had cut down his administrative hours by half, and it actually increased his take home by allowing him to fit more site visits and personal estimates into a day, while still getting to sleep at night.
Your business is probably not as archaic as my dad’s was, but there’s always a way to streamline processes. And if your processes are already as fast as they can go, then it sounds like you definitely have the hours of work available to pay an accountant or secretary.
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