Lowe---> America's Team
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 11:15 AM PST
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The Braves have reached preliminary agreement with free-agent right-hander Derek Lowe on a four-year, $60 million contract, according to major-league sources.
The deal, first reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, is pending a physical.
Lowe, 36, is the third starting pitcher added by the Braves this season, joining right-hander Javier Vazquez and Japanese right-hander Kenshin Kawakami.
The Cards fan in me says "Aw nutsack..."
Hope it was worth your soul; enjoy staring at this for the next four years Derek:
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Huh.
I read this headline as Mark Lowe going to the WBC for Team America…
Good for the Braves, and a good fit for Derek, probably…
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by PositivePaul on Jan 13, 2009 11:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I figured "America's Team" was either the Yankees or Red Sox.
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by Llewdor on Jan 13, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I did, actually.
It was the only way to watch Expos games (but only when they played Atlanta).
I don’t recall the “America’s Team” moniker.
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by Llewdor on Jan 13, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was the only way for most of us to watch NL games.
I didn’t have cable, but I’d watch Dale Murphy battle Andre Dawson, and it sort of put my ’Mickey Brantley is an under appreciated star" rant into context.
Glad I got to see Raines/Dawson though…
by marc w on Jan 13, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had an unhealthy attachment to Al Oliver as a child.
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by Llewdor on Jan 13, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! I DRINK IT UP!!
by abender20 on Jan 13, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I never think of the Braves as America’s team. Hell, they probably wouldn’t be Georgia’s team if they weren’t the only one there.
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by mlbnotebook on Jan 13, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I did, so what?
Doesnt mean they are America’s team just because they are on TV everyday.
-Zach Sanders
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by mlbnotebook on Jan 13, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla3Aen-GB3Aofficial&hs=1YV&q=tbs+braves+america%27s+team&btnG=Search
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They were called "America's Team" throughout the 80's and into the 90's
because they were the first team to be on TV every day – I was a Braves fan when I was a kid simply because they were always on.
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by pdb on Jan 13, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
First team to be on NATIONAL TV every day I mean.
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by pdb on Jan 13, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah - Dale Murphy and some losers
and good ol’ Zane Smith, the “I was a scary looking lefty with a mullet before RJ” guy.
by marc w on Jan 13, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And now they aren't anymore :(
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people here (Wisconsin) were Braves fans, at least when I was younger.
Now that the Brewers are semi-relevant and the Braves have stopped winning every year, some people are jumping off the bandwagon, but some stayed.
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by Jack Moore on Jan 13, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where would we put him?
If we could convince Batista or Silva to do the samurai thing and help the team by impaling themselves on a broken bat then yes, absolutely go for it. Otherwise there isn’t really room on the roster or payroll for him. But yeah, I’d sure love it. He would also be great to have around Felix, seeing as he goes to his curve a full 1/3 of the time.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 13, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We can always have Silva be the best long reliever in the AL
he’s a sunk cost as is
by seattlebruin on Jan 13, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure sure I know
but there’s some talk about there being a salary cap of sorts on the team and there is a surplus of starters. So while I’m not saying it’s wrong thing to do, I have a hard time imagining Jack Z being able to convince ownership that they need to go over their proposed payroll limit for another starter.
But again, if it happens I’m buying a round for everyone within earshot.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 13, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm not sure if there's a hard cap being imposed by ownership.
Really, it’s one of two cases:
1) Cap is “self-imposed” in that the team would prefer to spend money internally and save for 2010, which should also be a buyer’s market, rather than overpay for free agents this offseason. I don’t completely agree with this since there are some great deals to be had right now.
2) Cap is imposed by ownership, and is therefore restricting Z’s movements in a market where cheap talent is available. Also not good, since that implies ownership is still dumb and still holds a degree of power over the GM.
by JLC on Jan 13, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately it just doesn't seem feasible
by Jeff on Jan 13, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah
But if I could punt Washbrun or put Silva in the bullpen…
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I should've iced Bill when I had the chance
by Jeff on Jan 13, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe silva will eat his way into a career ending injury a la mo vaughn lol
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if hes not already there...
he’s getting close.
a few more tacos, and his pants won’t be able to fit around his fat ass. Safeco is a big park, but come on. Consider the fans Carlos, don’t block our view of the game.
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by mlbnotebook on Jan 13, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Silva doesn't suck because he's fat.
Carlos Silva sucks because he sucks. (If he even sucks, which I’m not convinced he does; I think he’s due for a regression to average and is simply overpaid, but that’s not my point.)
by acblue on Jan 13, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It think being fat has something to do with it
but the sarcasm in the inital post was missed
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not by me.
And I’m still skeptical that he would be better if he lost weight.
by acblue on Jan 13, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he plagued by back issues last season?
That very well could go away if he lost weight.
by BrianL on Jan 13, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez. No kidding.
But you and Dave both look pretty chicken sh!t when you REALLY had the chance:
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by PositivePaul on Jan 13, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have hope that the Three Guys That Catch Everything will give us a shot at reclaiming some of the lost value
by Robert on Jan 13, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to be disappointed if Washburn doesn't win the Cy Young
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and I feel like we need to trade for Julio Mateo and Ryan Franklin
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea
We need a reliever who can come in and get the groundball double play.
by JLC on Jan 13, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Screw that Lopez and Yubet can't catch anything
Unless we can get a pitcher who only allows groundballs towards third base
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Lopez ~average last year?
Jeff's guide to not looking stupid:
+/- is an absolutely terrible stat, so don't use it, and don't give up on young players before they turn 24.
54!
by joof on Jan 13, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm mostly kidding
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YOU FORGOT OLIVER PEREZ!!
Man, I am going to laugh so hard I rupture a ventricle when the Mets overpay for Ollie.
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by esoteric on Jan 13, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE
A major league scout told the Chicago Sun-Times’ Joe Cowley that the Angels have expressed interest in Jermaine Dye.
Sun Times via Roto.
My god, they could have the worst outfield in the history of everything.
This gives me an idea. Mariners should open a new subterfuge department where they train scouts and experts to give bad advice to divisional rivals. They can improve the team without altering the roster!
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 13, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jermaine Dye was projected to be worth less than a win next year
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't Willits be more valuable than Dye?
by Matthew on Jan 13, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
In this case I actually want the Angels to do the smarter thing because Reggie Willits enhances my baseball experience.
by Jeff on Jan 13, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gritty - for his pleasure.
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by Llewdor on Jan 13, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about they trade for Dye and then play Willits ahead of him?
by Matthew on Jan 13, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about they DH willits
and go with a Dye/Rivera/Vlad OF
by JI on Jan 13, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Must be a three-way trade...
I don’t want Napoli in Texas :-(
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by PositivePaul on Jan 13, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Napoli is not the difference between the Rangers being good and the Rangers being bad
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously play Willits
just so I didn’t buy my GF the tshirt jersey of a player who isn’t even on the big league roster.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
by bluemax on Jan 13, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap I love the direction the Angels are going in with these off season moves.
We’re gonna win we’re gonna win I’m dancing all over best off season I can remember
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by Kermit. on Jan 13, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The A's are going to win.
But we’ll keep it close.
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by Llewdor on Jan 13, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MLB.com seems to love their moves, too.
I can’t wait for everyone to be surprised at their mediocrity.
Big Z is the MAN.
by Taylor H on Jan 13, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MLB.com loves everybody's move
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 13, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still dancing! There's only one major hurdle I anticipate for Zduriencik.
That’s time. I’m worried too much of the fanbase bought into the idea that the M’s were really close to being competitive, that they bought into the false promises of Bavasi. Public opinion is a touchy thing, I hope it swings in support of Zduriencik and he has the time he needs to work things out.
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by Kermit. on Jan 13, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of a crap deal given how teams have been behaving.
Nothing like an intradivisional bidding war to reset marginal win cost back to 08.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 13, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, so much for the buyer's market affecting starting pitching
In semi-related news, Kenshin Kawakami also to the Braves.
by JLC on Jan 13, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nah, there were a lot of strange circumstances leading up to this:
C.C. and Burnett were classic Yanks splurge-overpays (they’re cash-flush and can do whatever the hell they please…and they’ll probably end up hating the Burnett K). Lowe, on the other hand, was a panic move on the part of an organization that was/is having The Offseason From Hell, what with the loss of Smoltz, the Furcal kerfuffle, the loss of the Burnett bidding, etc. They needed Lowe to restore some of their credibility with the fanbase as much as anything else (and their rotation was hurting anyway).
Honestly, I tend to think Lowe will earn most of his keep in Atlanta. A workhorse sinkerballer who’s remaining in the NL? He’ll probably be alright at $15M/year.
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by esoteric on Jan 13, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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