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OFFTOP 1/12/09: The Fine I'll Do It Edition

2f5fd04aeb55d43d24e294a1eb3f8b0b_tiny by thewyrm on Comment 920 comments

I don't really have any topics so lets just do what we always do:  Argue about music and/or movies.

 

Best film of 08.

Best Song of 08.

Thing you are most looking forward to in 09.

Person most in need of a junk punch.

Does anyone else have a job that finds them routinely asking themselves what the hell am I doing here?

Why don't more people like Jimmy Eat World?  Did In the Middle burn them out?

EDIT: One more, anyone else have a ridiculous amount of music they had to upgrade in their iTunes library for the DRM removal/iTunes Plus upgrade?  I am still downloading two days later.

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I gave it a rec.

That book is such bullshit. My first reaction when my sister was explaining it to me was “So it’s New Orleans’ own fault Katrina hit them?” To which she replied, “Well I don’t agree with everything in the book.”

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think all self-help books should be prohibited

but this one is deserving of a special place in self-help hell.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I tried to watch the DVD a few times.

I can’t go 5 minutes before I start puking and gouging my eyes out. Bullshit has never been so evident in such a brief period of time.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answers

1. No comment (and no it wasn’t Twilight)
2. Forever – Chris Brown
3. The year not blowing like 2008
4. No comment
5. Constantly
6. Good question, the Middle is a pretty annoying song though.

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

There's too many answers to those questions

so I’ll skip to the last one – I never bought a ton of iTunes music, so I only have a handful to upgrade. How do you upgrade it? Do you have to re-download it?

I will not address the Jimmy Eat World question because any answer I give will make me sound like a music snob.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Answers:

1. No Country for Old Men, or The Dark Knight. I can’t decide.
2. I usually don’t have favorite songs…just favorite albums.
3. The new Star Trek movie.
4. Brett Favre
5. Not really.
6. I really really really don’t like Jimmy Eat World. And I’m going to echo pdb’s sentiment about my reasons.

Another thing: I watched Tropic Thunder last night and hated almost every second of it. Does anybody else feel that movie was overhyped?

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 9:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And, fuck, No Country for Old Men came out in 2007.

Okay, I’m going to then say my answers were to the question: “Favorite movies I saw in 2008” and leave it at that.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tropic Thunder was hysterical

why didn’t you like it? Probably the funniest movie I saw last year.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I laughed maybe five times throughout the whole movie.

To me, it played it too safe. They had a chance to make a great farcical action movie, but it wasn’t clever enough to pull it off. And it wasn’t silly enough to get low-brow laughs either.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The part when he plays Flo Rida was fantastic

I loved “a nutless monkey could do your job. No. Seriously. A nutless monkey.”

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now go take all the credit.

Seriously, a nutless monkey.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I read a story about Cruise dying to play that role.

It mentioned that he’s had some awful run-ins with studio heads, and he pretty much created that character out of his hatred for them.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The thing about it though

is that it isn’t an action movie, nor is it a farce – it’s a parody of the Hollywood way of making movies and of the pompous windbags that inhabit Hollywood. The whole “don’t go full retard” speech is far and away the funniest Hollywood criticism I’ve heard in a long time.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched the first 30 minutes of Tropic Thunder and turned it off.

Maybe I will give it another try, but I didn’t find it hilarious either.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answers:

Movie: the Dark Knight
Song: Decode by Paramore
Looking forward to: new albums by U2 and hopefully Muse

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I could tell from a few offtops in the past that Jimmy Eat World is polarizing.

Personally, I love them. I think a lot of people disregard them because of the “emo” stigma and because for an entire summer you couldn’t go more than three songs without hearing In the Middle. I think a lot of people would like them if they just gave them a chance but whatever. Their latest album Chase This Light was fantastic.

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly, I feel the exact opposite about Chase This Light

I have to be in the right (slightly emo, but not Death Cab) mood for that album and I love Futures almost endlessly.

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Aww SB, I was totally in love with you

but you had to go and badmouth Death Cab. It hurts.

And yes, I know they probably aren’t popular around these parts. Oh well.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 12, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Death Cab

Zooey Deschanel (swoon!) just got engaged to that wanker, Ben Gibbard.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was versus the Mariners.

He’s a known Ms fan.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 12, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And a great guy.

They get no love – from people like me, honestly – but they’re still cool in my book.

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know and it breaks my heart

not so much because I could have ever married Zooey Deschanel but because it means that being a stupid wanky beardo can be rewarding. Which is not right.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's just a phase Zooey will grow out of.

They’ll divorce within 2 years and she’ll hook up with a Brad Pitt or a Matthew McConaughey. An obvious example is Angelina Jolie having married Billy Bob Thornton. Although, Pamela Anderson never really grew out of that phase.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Death Cab is great

I just need to be in the right mood for them! J.E.W. Futures is great all the time

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked "Get it Faster".

Everything else can go jump off a bridge.

And if you think you had it bad listening to The Middle, every single radio station played it here every half hour, due to them being “Jersey Boys” (They also did this with Fountains of Wayne)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 10:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Stacy's Mom drove me crazy

because I was already (and still am) a huge FoW fan. In fact, I heard Stacy’s Mom a few days early due to a store selling the CD before the release date, and thought it was a good song at that time.

The repeated play of the song has totally killed it for me, and it gets skipped every time I play the album.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Jan 12, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion their best song is If You Don't, Don't

I would even say it has to be amongst my five favorite songs of all time.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They made their name in Jersey, playing firehouses.

Every single person I’ve ever talked to around here considers them a “Jersey band”.

I will, however, use this as a bludgeon against them in future conversations.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This dates back to when they had their first big hit.

And earlier, because they were pretty huge in the small club circuit. I can’t think of a fire show they did out here that wasn’t sold out.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I once almost flew to Seattle because Jimmy was opening for Green Day at the Tacoma Dome.

Had I gone, I probably would not have stayed for Green Day.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw them at the Crocodile in Seattle

it’s my one “I saw them before they were big” story – right after their first two Lookout! records, and before they were anybody, they opened for Best Kissers In The World in front of a crowd of about 8 people, and blew them away. They’re nothing original, or unique, but they do what they do pretty dang well.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

they were reasonably decent live powerpop, though.

But to their credit, after Green Day finished their set, they came out and the first thing that Gerald Collier said was “Uh, we can’t really follow that!” which was funny.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! The Lemons

I used to see them all the time. (I assume we’re talking about the same band)

Nabil Ayers, who went on to start Sonic Boom, was their replacement guitarist for a while, after his other T-town band, Spontaneous Funk Whorehouse broke up.

I saw BKITW once – the night before I took the SAT. They played with a bunch of great local bands somewhere in downtown tacoma… damn, wish I could remember who headlined.

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Answers

I only saw about 3 movies in the theater last year. I’ll say Dark Knight.

I abstain on best song, since I wasn’t paying much attention the last 12 months or so.

I am looking most forward to huge change.

I’m a lover, not a junk puncher.

I don’t know if I’ve ever heard Jimmy Eat World. Sorry.

by royalcurve on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Odd comment for the Secret's product descrtption.
The Secret that utterly transformed the lives of every person who ever knew it… Plato, Newton, Carnegie, Beethoven, Shakespeare, Einstein. Now YOU will know The Secret. And it can change your life forever.

What? Beethoven had an unbelievably miserable life.

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Newton used the Secret to bring about the plague;

Einstein, the atomic bomb; and for Plato, the death of his mentor.

by Matthew on Jan 12, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And here I was planning to use it to get a Pinarello Prince

I need to think bigger, obviously.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was insane.

Kind of like the Washington/Cal game on Saturday.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was a little peeved by that.

Not that it mattered, but the Chargers were flagged for celebrating and flagged for a late hit, and I saw the Steelers do both of those things to essentially the same degree, and nothing.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a 15 year old girl in my store that did that

The most I’ve ever done was 2,500 in a month.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The average number of monthly texts for a 13- to 17-year-old teen is 1,742, according to a Nielsen study of cellphone usage.

What. The. Fuck.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that's about 60 texts a day

do teenagers never speak out loud any more?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not that much

Considering its 30 back and forth and some phones will split longer messages into 2. Not only that but it also counts CC messages sent to multiple people individually

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still.

That’s ridiculous.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have only seen my 15yo niece make about five actual phone calls ever.

She is however constantly sending texts and IM’s via her iPhone.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a gift.

She is spoiled and always has been, but she is a pretty good kid.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They aren't that expensive.

Especially since buying her a phone and an iPod would be just as spendy.

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

why a kid of 15 needs more than a basic free phone I will never understand

free phone + off-brand mp3 player = good enough goddamit.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you're also not 15 years old and you make good money

if I had a 15 yo kid and they wanted an iPhone, I’d say “fine, you want one, go earn the money to buy one”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

15 years old is about the right age, I think.

They’re starting to drive. That should be reason enough.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I did just fine at 15, 16, 17, 18 without a cell phone.

Although I will say that it was easier to find a working pay phone in those days. But still.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heck.

I didn’t have my first cell phone until I was about 23 (provided by my employer), then I went from about 26 until 30 without one again.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I got one at 19.

But it’s a different day.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the problem.

Society has been convinced that cell phones are “necessary” rather than a luxury. Now people think that kids need phones as soon as they can talk.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Every material necessity

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cell phones are not a necessity.

Unless you need them for business.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your car is not a necessity

Your house is not a necessity

It’s a really dumb standard to judge things by.

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Samsies

My cell comes to 27 dollars a month. It is my smallest monthly bill.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mine is at $50

but that’s because I have a dataplan on mine.

…thank God work is paying for this.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

$70

Damn iPhone and AT&T’s data plans.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am angry Apple and AT&T re-upped their exclusive contract for an additional three years.

I was looking forward to competition to drive the data plans down. I have the first gen iPhone and I love it so much I won’t ever go back to a regular cell phone, but I will probably upgrade to the 3G version when my contract is up in August.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It makes sense for apple

There aren’t any other viable GSM providers in the states for at least another 3 years till Verzion switches over.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want Verizon so bad.

They were a great provider for me before going to the iPhone. Never had any problems with reception and dropped calls.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Verizon almost screwed me once.

But other than that I’ve been with them for 8 years and they’ve been mostly great.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a big fan of Verizon Wireless

they have the best reception of any company I’ve ever dealt with, and in the nearly 7 years I’ve been with them I’ve had exactly three dropped calls.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just had my first dropped call about one month ago.

I was so puzzled because it had never happened before.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Verizon

I would never leave them, even though they’re a bit pricey and their phone selection sucks. After having to deal with AT&T’s coverage in LA for a year, I’ve found that Verizon is more than worth the extra $5 a month or whatever it is I pay for them. I get a 20% discount through work anyway so…

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Little pricey and small phone selection is correct.

But their service has been impeccable as long as I’ve been with them.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd want my kid to have a phone

but they don’t need bells or whistles. A phone that calls and texts is fine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Which can be hard to find.

last time I was in the States I needed to pick up a cell phone for the time that I was there. I told the guy I just wanted to make phone calls and text, no camera, no internet etc. Dude looked at me like I had 9 heads.

by coolguyrob on Jan 12, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next time you're back

just go to any Verizon store and ask for their most basic free phone. They’ll never try to convince you to get one because they get no commission on them, but they do have them if you ask.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly what I ended up doing.

Plus once she found out I was military she gave me 100 minutes free. Thanks!

by coolguyrob on Jan 12, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is incorrect

Commission has nothing to do with the phone and everything to do with the added services. And its gotten to the point where every phone offered can perform at pretty much a equal level.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My boys have something like "Go" phones, with a certain amount of pre-paid minutes on them.

For use in emergencies only. The 18 year old is allowed to add minutes to his phone, but if it’s ever empty when we call, the phone will be taken away and he can get his own plan and pay for it himself. The 15 year-old has had 30 minutes pre-paid on his phone for about 6 months, and he still has minutes left.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is true.

But you can never exceed your minutes, and it encourages the older boy to get his own damn phone.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think in this day and age 14+ needs a phone

I regret not having a phone while I was in high school, and I couldn’t live without mine for more than like 12 hours

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

After I started driving and got my first job in high school

my parents decided to get me a cell phone. No regrets from anyone over that.

Personally I think 14 is a bit too early. I’d go with 16-17 or whenever someone starts transporting themselves places.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You can still call from wherever you're going.

That’s what I used to do when I was a teenager.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I would never let my kids leave the house without me if they didn't have a phone.

I think around the age they begin sleeping over at friends’ houses is when it is time for a phone.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My God.

How did we survive growing up?!? No bike helmets, no cell phones, no portable video games! The horror!!!

If you were hit by a car, I would hope someone called 911 (and your parents) for you. THis is what always happened when we had accidents when we were younger.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I get run over by a bus, who says I'm going to be able to grab my cell phone and make a call?

Or who says my cell phone isn’t destroyed in the accident? What next, do we make our kids where helmets when they walk to school?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

People got by fine without cell phones, sure.

But now that we have them and they’re fairly cheap, why not? When I was a teenager I still had to call my parents; once I had a cell phone, I could just step outside and call rather than having to find stop what I was doing, find a payphone, make sure I had change, etc etc etc.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

98% of adults carry credit cards.

Should we start hooking our kids up with them when they turn 10?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My little sister has one

They never gave me one though :(

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate people.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate my parents

I never got my own credit card

They pay for her gas too. And sent her to Japan last summer. When I was 16 I washed dishes at a summer camp. She went on some bullshit leadership tour to Japan

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

10 might be a little early.

But 15? Why not?

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm... No job?

Therefore no way to pay the credit card bill?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But I do.

It’s all about trust and teaching children the importance of credit and money management. Also so they have a way to make emergency purchases.

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by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

There was not once in my life before I was 18 that I had to make an "emergency purchase".

Anything I needed could wait until my parents could show up (and use their own credit card if necessary). Name me one thing so urgent that a 14yo needs to purchase that it can’t wait for their parents.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Giving a kid a Visa card is not how you teach money management.

This is called “allowance” or a “job”.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My parents didn't even bother handing me cash as an allowance

they just kept a running tally of how much allowance I had saved up and let me use it as a debit card when we were out.

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At the same time, allowing them to charge purchases that others will pay back

as also a moderately silly argument to make for “teaching people smart money management.”

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Money is money

You have to teach the kid the value of the dollar the hard way before giving him any forms of money to go throw around all willy-nilly

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we're too dependent on technology and we're raising a bunch of pussies

but some things have made life better and cell phones are one of them.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are some drawbacks to cell phones, sure

but I agree with you. The pros far outweigh the cons.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

YES

YES YES YES

If I could go back 30 years the first thing I would do is assassinate everyone who helped create the internet

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've considered becoming Amish

I think today’s technology has made us all (myself included) a bunch of paranoid pussies with too much access to information

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ass-beards?

Yuck.

Assa-Beards?

Yuck.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's too late now

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The damage is done

Eliminating the internet from myself is bad if the rest of society needs it- I just don’t think it should exist at all

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The sheer wealth of information available to everyone thanks to the internet

is wonderful. I’m an idealist. I think that if something exists that can easily spread knowledge to billions of people it should be commended.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jeez. No kidding.

I mean, heck – remember when parents used to freak out about their kids running up $300 long-distance phone bills?

Kids are going to be kids and do kid things. The fact that I don’t have to worry about my future teenager running up a $300 phone bill too much is OK by me…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My first phone bill in college was $279

that sobered me up right quick.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is going too far--the other houses would have phones.

I’m just saying that as long as I was driving, particularly on backroads, I was glad I had a phone. Otherwise it’s unlikely I would have had as much freedom.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 12, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's just not true

It’s almost considered child abuse these days to kick your kid out on the street all day and tell him to play outside

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's no way this is true.

We spent 20 years as a society freaking the fuck out about stranger danger and gangs and blah blah blah; if nothing else, cell phones have allowed teenagers to regain some of the freedom they lost when we entered a 24 hour news cycle.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding right?

My boys had plenty of freedom, as did my little brother who is thirteen years younger than I am. In fact, they had more freedom than I did, and more freedom then my parents or their parents.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not at all kidding.

My cousins weren’t allowed to play in their front yard until they were 14. I had friends that weren’t allowed to stay out past 10:00 on the weekends (in OLYMPIA WASHINGTON) because their parents were worried about gangs. The vast majority of parents are ridiculously paranoid.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I keep Silas in the bubble.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Jan 12, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you live in a craptatsic neighborhood, this is probably more of an issue.

However, a cell phone isn’t going to protect you from a drive-by, and a credit card makes you more likely to get robbed.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Most kids I knew that grew up in bad neighborhoods had more freedom

because their parents lived in the neighborhoods that boring white people are scared of and realized that it wasn’t a war zone.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The fact that I was allowed to drive to my best friend's house

on backroads rather than the long way around was not too much freedom.

I think you are trying too hard to argue a point here. While I agree to an extent that society is overdependent on being ‘plugged in’, this argument is getting a bit ridiculous.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 12, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the argument comes down to convenience versus necessity

and I think most of the younger members of this community would argue on the side of convenience. Yeah, we’d survive without our phones, but since they’re cheap and easily obtained, why the hell not? Same with getting a credit card at 15 or whatever. Don’t need it, but it’s nice to have just in case, to have that security of knowing if you need to buy something that you have the means to do so.

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda agree with thingray somewhat

I’m all for kids having cell phones – if I had a kid, they’d have one. But a credit card? No. There’s no way a 15 year old kid “needs” to buy something that he can’t talk to his parents about first.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My boys have cell phones.

They do not have the freedom to send 400 texts per day on them, nor are they to be used for calling their buddies. They are only for contacting us when necessary.

If they want to socialize on a cell phone, they can get a job and get their own.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hell, I wish to God my parents had given me a credit card at 15.

Then when I was on my own at age 17 finance and money wouldn’t have been such a steep learning curve. My credit is still suffering from poor decisions I made back then.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But remember in typical cases the parents names are on the card

and they are paying the bill – it doesn’t help you learn to manage money if you’re not the one paying in the end

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My point is that I never "had" to buy something at 15.

Anything that was a necessity my parents would pay for. The things I “wanted” did not require a credit card, and were not an emergency.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Same boat for me.

My junior year in high school I got rear-ended on my way to work. The accident really screwed up my neck and left me in no condition to drive. To make matters worse I was on the shoulder of 405 between Mill Creek and Bothell.

The cell phone let me call my dad, who drove with my brother to come pick me and my truck up.

In that situation, it’s a piece of security to both myself and my family. I’d only been driving for about two months at that point, so I imagine that if I didn’t have it I probably would have been panicking.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No police.

The asshat that hit me wrote down his insurance number, left it with me, and took off.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's completely illegal

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it is.

Doesn’t change the fact that it happened and I was on my own, though.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no it doesn't

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Generally in an accident of this severity,

the police show up on their own.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Call me a misanthrope

but I’d just assume take control of a situation like that myself rather than throw myself at the mercy of those around me.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand this.

I still don’t think it’s a reason to start kids on cell phones and credit cards at 10.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My policy as a parent somewhere down the line

will be that my kid gets a cell phone the minute they stop taking the Freshman Limo to and from school.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some things that may make your kids stay safer

could also turn them into giant wimps and incapable of taking care of themselves as adults. The world isn’t always safe and kids need to learn that eventually. Sometimes that requires being in situations that are a little risky.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

antibacterial soap should be illegal.

And I’m not kidding.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Totally agreed

My older sister had a kid 6 months ago. WE STILL HAVE TO SANITIZE OUR HANDS BEFORE TOUCHING HER BECAUSE SHE’S AFRAID WE’LL GET THE KID SICK.

The kid isn’t going to have a fucking immune system

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this.

We don’t use it in my house.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree wholeheartedly.

I refuse to even use it, which sometimes requires scalding the hell out of my hands.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there's a line there though

It’s healthy for kids to find themselves in binds occassionally and have to problem solve for themselves though

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or the DOT cameras picking up the accident,

and sending the WSP or DOT.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ironically my parents gave me a phone when I started driving to Boise from McCall

The strange part about this is that there’s virtually no phone service from Boise to McCall

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I rather text than talk.

It keeps convos short and sweet, isn’t rude to do around other people in most situations and allows me to keep track of past correspondences.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I find it incredibly rude when I go somewhere with a group

and no one is talking because everyone is on their damn phone sending texts.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I take a call I always leave the room.

People who do not know how to do this are the same as people who sit there and text all the time.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate hate hate talking on my phone in front of people

And I make so much of a point to leave the room that I’ve had people accuse me of talking about them behind their backs

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But if you're hanging with a group of people, and constantly leave the room,

that’s being very rude as well. What people need to do is learn to ignore phone calls and texts, or turn off their phone occasionally.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

THIS

Oh my god I can’t believe people that refuse to turn off their phones. Unless you’re a doctor on call or a transplant patient waiting for a kidney, you can turn off your phone for an hour and the world will still spin just fine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now you are just being a little ridiculous.

Sometimes people NEED to know things. Do you wanna miss a birth? A loved one in the hospital?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It worked just fine.

Home phones and answering machines, or home phones and call-back-when-someone’s-home, worked like a charm.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate this line of argument.

How did people get around before cars? They rode horses. They got where they were going, didn’t they? How did people deal with the pain of surgery before local anesthetic? They drank whiskey. They got through the amputation didn’t they?

I don’t deny that some technology has made the world worse, but I don’t see how anyone can argue that cell phones are in that category. I wish people would use them differently than they do sometimes, but I have been in so many situations that would have sucked ass before cell-phones it’s not even funny. If you want to go live off the grid out in the middle of the desert and eat varmints, fine, more power to you. As long as I don’t have to listen to your logical fallacies anymore, feel free.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I see your point.

If we replace land lines entirely with cell phones, then children need cell phones.

But there is a certain level of ettiquette that should be observed with any device. If you were throwing a dinner party and your home phone rang (back in the old-timey days), would you pick it up and have a long, loud conversation, or would you politely tell the person that you will have to call them back because you;re entertaining?

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As I said, I mostly agree with your point.

I think it’s rude to answer a phone in a restaurant or other such situation. I believe if you’re in a group and not expecting a call either from someone who will be joining you or from a very specific source, you shouldn’t answer your phone.

But to carry it so far that people don’t need phones, or kids don’t need phones, that’s just being a bit of a devil’s advocate.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Jan 12, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you have a landline,

I don’t believe children need cell phones. The only reason my 15yo has one is because he is in marching band, and travels out of state, or far away, and sometimes he has to call us to pick him up when they get back late at night (when the school is closed).

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Again, call my home phone.

My family knows the number. If there is a baby expected, I’ll leave my phone on (of course).

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know very few people under the age of 25 who have home phones

we don’t have one in our house and never thought about.

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Then leaving it on for emergencies makes sense.

But you can silence it when it’s appropriate.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a landline at my place

but only because work is footing the bill. It makes sure they have multiple ways to get a hold of me at 2 in the morning.

If I wasn’t working for this office, I probably wouldn’t have a land line.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Does VOIP count?

I surrendered my land line to Comcast…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Name one that can't.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your sewer line just broke.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Again,

if you’re that far away, what are you going to do? Whoever knows your sewer line is broken can call a plumber.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wait, what?

Your question was “name one emergency that can’t be solved by dialing 911”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I never said cell phones are bad.

I said they aren’t a necessity for most people, and that I don’t think children “need” them.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there are different definitions of need.

Yes, you don’t “need” a cell phone to live, but I think you could justify using “need” in certain situations, and for some families I think it would apply.

by acblue on Jan 12, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you're that far away from your dog,

what are you going to do about it? And whoever is calling you can (should) take them to the vet.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, what's that like?

As if I cared what time people called me when I was in college?

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t turn my phone off because who the hell calls you unless they really need you past midnight on a work night?

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you have friends/family in a very different (like, oh, 8 hours) time zone

this is important. Still, these people call my land line, which is why I desperately want to destroy my corded phones and rip the phone jacks out of the wall. Or cancel the service, one of the two.

And I often turn off my cell phone at night because of the scourge that is drunk-texting. Even with the sound off, the little alert light thing makes it look like a UFO is landing in my kitchen if the entire house is dark.

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I started texting

and I can’t turn off my phone 100% just airplane mode.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guarantee you your phone will in fact turn off

press and hold the red button for a few seconds and off goes the phone.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And I guarantee you are wrong.

Holding the little red button just turns off the phone radio. The phone itself can not be turned off without removing the battery.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In my career I am on the job 24/7

I had to leave the room at the USSM/LL meeting on Saturday because a client called. Either your friends understand who you are and what you do or they don’t.

My issue is that people are losing the ability to be present with the people they happen to be with at any given time.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If there is a work issue this is fine.

But when cell phones are going off during funerals, there is a problem with society.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the last sentence,

I do worry about that. I try not to, but even when I have guests over, it’s hard not to check the laptop every few minutes to check for e-mail.

These are usually pretty close friends who are just there to watch a game or something, so it’s not like they need my attention, but it’s still something I’m conscious of. I fear becoming addicted to technology sometimes.

But then again, I always find that once I turn off the computer/phone, I’m not anxious or anything. I should probably do it more often.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is a real issue now.

People who say it is not an issue are generally the ones who are offending.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have my phone on 24/7 and don't have that problem

If I am company at someone’s house, I’m not going to respond to a text or a call unless really important, and I’m not going to the the phone/computer to start a conversation with someone else.

It all comes down to being a prick/not a prick and technology has little to do with it.

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rude people are rude people.

Take away their cell phones and they’ll probably just fart at the table.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My comment is not directed at you or technology.

It is more in regards to how people do not interact on a personal level as much as they used to.

Available technology may play a role in that, but it is not solely to blame. If you are not seeing this in your personal life you are lucky.

by Sec 108 on Jan 12, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't even have a landline anymore.

Cell phone is my primary means so it stays on.

by coolguyrob on Jan 12, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This makes sense.

I have a landline still, so people can reach me in emergencies, even if my cell is off.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So for you 24/7 access is necessary.

For most people it isn’t.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I totally realize that I'm way in the minority.

And agree with you. It kills that I can be out on a date and I have to have my crackberry right there with me and I can’t shut it off.

by coolguyrob on Jan 12, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I'm just hanging at the bar on a Friday it doesn't bother me.

But if we’re out at dinner with friends or something, I silence my phone and just check it after dinner is over.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It might be important. Same reason I keep my phone on silent in the movie theatre.

I have a policy with everyone who knows me. Call me twice in rapid succession if it is urgent.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish people would leave messages.

Or call, and if I don’t answer, text. But if you call and don’t leave a message, I’m under no obligation to return your call.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Or even the “call twice for an emergency thing is fine”, but I don’t need to answer every call that comes in 24/7.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just toss my cell on those kinds of things.

Typically (especially with jobs), I want the person calling to be able to reach me whether or not I’m at home. If I’m out, I can always tell them “you know, this isn’t a great time for me, can we arrange another time to speak more in detail.”

by seattlebruin on Jan 12, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to do the same thing when I was working at Mills Music.

It’s a nice touch for a customer. You’re pretty much saying that “Even if I’m not on the sales floor, I want to be able to help you out. Here’s my cell number so you’re guaranteed to talk to me directly.”

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Call my home phone.

If you don’t know my home number, you’re probably not anyone I want to talk to anyway.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you here.

I walk out of the room/office whenever I get a call on my cell phone. Privacy is a little bit of it, but mostly I just don’t want to annoy people. It bothers me when people do it, so I try to do my part.

Also, since cell phones don’t give you the voice feedback that a land line does, people apparently don’t realize that they’re screaming into the phone.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but leaving people at a table to take a long phone call is rude too

I think that if the texting is done discreetly, I’m fine

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Trump this...

When interviewing a candidate for a role in our team recently, my manager took a call during the interview. Didn’t even apologise either.

How am I supposed to just gloss over that and ask another question?

W1 L2 (.333)
Coming to a baseball stadium near you this June

by MarkE on Jan 12, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm completely uncomfortable talking on the phone in a room full of people

It amazes me that there are people totally comfortable with it

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just try to do all of my correspondence by e-mail.

I can type ~75 words a minute on a keyboard, and ~1 word a minute on my phone. And I’m near a computer pretty much all day. Texting is nice when I’m on the road, but other than that, I avoid it.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I fully believe with the contraction/death of "old media"

and the actual death of old sportswriters that the HoF balloting process will be more scientific in 15 years than it is today, and until that time there’s no use in getting up in arms about it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stay away fanboys.

But thanks to what must have been a mastermind bent on villiany and evil, I am in the market for a new mp3 player. I’ve had experience with iPods before thanks to a generous purchase plan through my alma mater and are comfortable with them. I have the following needs for portable music player(s):

-something that’s easy to use at the gym
-something that’s easy to use while driving
-something that helps kill time on the bus

Thanks to lala, I no longer need an mp3 player when I have net access. I previously had a 2nd gen nano, which was small enough to use at the gym and easy enough (UI folders and an actual visual screen) to scroll through for driving.

I want something in the 8GB range of memory, and after some price shopping, my current thoughts run toward getting two players. One that’s the cheapest and smallest that I can find that will play mp3s and will only play mp3s (for gym) and a more full-featured player like the nano for more general use.

I’m curious about people’s thoughts on either or both lines of players. Have a cheap player that’s durable? I’m also curious about anyone who owns an iPod Touch and they’re overall thoughts on it. It seems like a really fun gadget, but is it worth the extra cost?

by Matthew on Jan 12, 2009 11:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The touch is really cool gadget for everything but a MP3 player.

Zunes and creatives are usually high quailty players without the hassel of itunes.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By that, do you mean the audio quality of the touch sucks?

I already deal with iTunes for other reasons and will have to no matter my player, so that’s not an incentive for me.

by Matthew on Jan 12, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just from playing with my friends iPhones

It appears to be very cumbersome to operate while moving around. I hate my ipod but the one thing that I like is that I can operate it without taking it out of my pocket. From my moderate experience with the touch that appears to be quite difficult. The other gimmicky stuff is top notch though.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the best thing about the ipod for me

I don’t have to look at it to operate it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want a MacBook Wheel So Badly

:-)

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm an old man and I hate touch wheels

I want tactile buttons to press (and a dedicated volume control if I can find it)

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You also hate keyboards...

…either that or they hate you :-)

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love my new keyboard

and if you check my comments you will see that my keyboard related bitching has gone down to nearly 0% since I got it.

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't say things you can't take back.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love this keyboard so much.

Finally a worthy successor to my decade-old Natural Pro.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point.

Not sure how much it would effect me, but I hadn’t thought about that before.

by Matthew on Jan 12, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I told my brother not to get one

It looks neat, but the control interface is probably annoying and you won’t be able to operate it without looking at the screen.

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I use Mediamonkey to load my iPods (don't think it does touch)

There are a lot of good media managers that do iPod loading and organizing.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have SanDisk Sansa (8 GB).

And I love it. It doesn’t have too many features, which is great for me, but it’s a rock-solid player. I’ve had it for a year and a half now and haven’t had any problems with it.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I will agree with the Sansa as a good "gym" player.

I would still go with a Nano or iPod classic as a car player, though.

I wouldn’t rec the touch for driving, too much going on, need to look at the to change anything.

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by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a 3rd gen Nano (the square one) and I love it for the gym

it’s a great shape, it’s flash memory so there’s no moving parts to jar while running, and mine’s 8 gig so it holds a ton of stuff. I also have a 4 gig one that I would part with (bought the 8 gig for the extra capacity when they announced the 4th gen nanos, which went back to the rectangular shape), but it sounds like you want something bigger – but if a 4 gig 3rd gen nano would interest you drop me a line.

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The whole non-ipod market has gone tits up

I pods are good and dandy, but I don’t like the small screen, I hate the scroll wheel, and itunes is a big resource hogging turd.

Personally, I liked my Creative player (no longer made), and my Zune (except for the Y2K bug) just fine, but Microsoft will be pulling out of that market too.

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

...Itunes is like 80% of the problem

That and apple is really douchey and smug to I try to avoid when possible.

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Companies can't be smug, or douchey.

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by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't tell me Graham has a thing against a little elitism, now?

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by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got to go with Graham on this one

I love just about every Apple product I’ve ever owned, but I absolutely hate their marketing department. Every time I see a PC vs Mac ad I want to charter a flight down to Cupertino so I can strangle someone.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I see that as two sides of the same coin.

If you make the products the everyone loves, you can afford to be smug/douchey/elitist.

I’m sure pushing their products in that way doesn’t hurt their bottom line, as even MS fanboys will still get iPods over Zunes when push comes to shove, and reinforcing stereotypes of the hip underdogs probably brings in the anti-establishment morons.

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by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And Apple has a few monopolistic tendencies of its own, really.

I’ve never really understood the difference between an awesome business and a monopoly, to be honest. It’s a hard line for me to draw.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As does google

I’m not entirely convinced that an open-source monopoly is any better than a proprietary one.

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's probably a little too close to politics for this site,

but it has to do with deliberately preventing competition, as opposed to just crushing it in the open marketplace.

Think IE automatically resetting itself as default browser at startup, to mess with Netscape.

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by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's unfair

but I don’t have a problem with Microsoft bundling their own web browser and media player in with Windows.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not bundling.

The start of the Euro anti-trust suits was that you couldn’t uninstall IE, and it would reset itself as default should something take it away.

But bundling is part of any software, really, so no, I have no problem with that, and it turns out that anti-trust lawyers don’t either. You just have to be able to uninstall the pieces if you don’t want them.

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by Faux on Jan 12, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I own the iPod Touch

If you don’t need more than like 12 GB of space for music, it works perfectly. Picture for videos is very high quality, and you can go on the internet wherever there is Wi-Fi. Also what I like most is that Apps you can get for them. Now you don’t have to pay for all of them, and they can sometimes can be very handy when you are on the go.

by Fin on Jan 12, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've used a lot of MP3 devices

but the iPod is still at the top of my list as far as usability and ease goes. I’ve got a 30GB video and 8GB iPhone, and I love both. The 30GB video is great for long road trips.

My brother owns the newer 8GB nano and he absolutely loves it.

As for the Touch, what Robert said.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a creative zen V, and it looks like the Creative Zen Mosaic might fit your needs

Like JI, I don’t use (and will never use) iTunes, so I just needed a small mp3 player with a decent screen. My old Zen V has a decent screen, great battery life, and pretty good sound. Dedicated volume.
I’ve had mine for 2 years, fwiw.

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't mind my iPod when I had it (I had one of those huge clunky ones)

and I don’t mind my Zune now (other than the name and the fact that people act like fucking retards when asked to do anything with it). Zune’s are pretty easy to use while driving and while there are a few things I’d change about the display, it’s a fine device. If I were you I’d just go for whatever is cheapest because if you just want music to listen to there really isn’t a reason to own a Touch or something wacky like that.

by Fogel on Jan 12, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd go with the latter

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's situation dependent

On a backroad in the middle of the night I think both are fine, in 45 MPH traffic on I-5 at 630 PM I think you should be instantly jailed for either

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You can run off a back road into a tree as easily as you can hit another car in traffic

if your eyes aren’t on the road and focused on what you’re doing.

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Difference though

Running into a tree only hurts yourself

Running into another car hurts someone else

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Laws can't be drawn that finely, though

and shouldn’t laws help protect all people, self or otherwise?

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want laws protecting myself from myself, only myself from others

but I’m not sure this is going in a good direction

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not

but one final question: you’re on a rural road, texting away because your conversation just can’t wait. You miss a curve, and my house is on that curve. You plow your car through, let’s say, my garage door. Nobody’s hurt, but if that’s my garage door I want a law in place saying that what you did is illegal. Otherwise, I have almost no recourse short of my insurance, which may or may not cover the damage you did and if it does, will probably adversely affect my rates. SHould what you did be considered illegal, given that nobody got hurt?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The act of running into your garage door should be illegal

How I did it should not be an issue

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by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 12, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually kind of agree with you here

Because if you did this while eating a cheeseburger, which can be just as much of a distraction, no laws come into play. Except for reckles driving I guess.

by coolguyrob on Jan 12, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But the argument could be made

that if you weren’t texting, you would have been focused on the driving, and thus not run off the road into my garage door, could it not? If you ran into my garage door because your brakes and steering failed, that shouldn’t be illegal. Intent matters.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But you'd still have to pay

What are you asking the law to DO here?

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Recognize that driving should be a singular activity

if texting is covered under “reckless driving”, great, but if not I think the definition of “reckless driving” needs to be expanded.

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It shouldn't be expanded by itemizing each gadget or

food item that’s distracting.

If you drive off the road into someone’s garage, you’re liable. What more needs to be said here?

by marc w on Jan 12, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't mean an itemized list

But the RCW currently only defines “reckless driving” in terms of either speed (x mph over the posted maximum) or impairment by drugs or alcohol. The language should be expanded so that it catches things like eating, texting, brushing your teeth, etc. – in other words, things you do behind the wheel that are detrimental to the safe operation of a vehicle.

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No it's not

not even close, it’s no worse than changing the stereo

by JI on Jan 12, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was my initial line of thought,

but after figuring out that a Touch would cost me ~$100 over a plain mp3 player, I’m trying to gauge whether the stuff like the App Store, wifi access, etc is worth that much to me.

by Matthew on Jan 12, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd stick with a more vanilla MP3 player.

The Touch’s wifi support is neat, but if you’re in a place with wifi you probably should just use a laptop instead.

Either that or go with an iPhone and be able to use it’s non-MP3 functionality everywhere.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't need or want a phone.

And I do not carry laptops around with me.

by Matthew on Jan 12, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still stand by my thoughts on the Touch.

It’s a neat device, it just doesn’t do anything particularly well. It’s an okay music player, but the battery life leaves a lot to be desired. The app store applications tend to be more novelties than anything.

As far as value goes, you’re probably better off with a device that’s more dedicated to MP3 and music playback.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a 32GB touch and love it (got it for $225)

But I don’t really use it to listen to music. Mostly just videos when I’m flying and games. But I agree with BrianL says if your trying to get around your music library and switching between songs it can become frustrating.

YES YES YES YES YES

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 12, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yes it is

I use my shuffle mostly for listening to music. I just fly a lot for work now so I really needed something to do on the plane.

Oh and I love the Wifi browser btw.

YES YES YES YES YES

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 12, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

O yes, it is great.

The iPod touch is basically for people who want an iPhone but already has a phone.

by Fin on Jan 12, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

I think it is much easier to use the letters on the side to go down to the artist you want and etc.

by Fin on Jan 12, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Woot frequently features mp3 players - especially during Woot-offs

I have bought a couple of mp3 players from Woot and have gotten fantastic deals.

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by mem on Jan 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, this!

A few years ago, I got a AAA-powered 1-gig MP3 player for $25 (when similar models were going for at least $50).

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by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Big fan of both, it suits my lifestyle. Or did but still prefer a small/large combo.

For exactly what you said, for cycling or working out a stick memory player that is lightweight, and virtually indestructible is fantastic. I do like being able to haul around the lionshare of my music collection on occasion.
What I really need is a better set of head phones for working out, little rubber bands and plastic are annoying. And innocuous, I think it’s illegal to ride even on the Burke with headphones on.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 12, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heard that this morning.

He’s been considering retirement for years. I hope he gets to enjoy it.

Man do I love midgets.

by Thingray on Jan 12, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I had the misfortune of watching "What Happens in Vegas" a while back and it got me to thinking.

Are there seriously any people out there who think gags based on the concept that men should leave the toilet seat down so women don’t fall in the toilet by accident funny? Seriously, how ancient is that “gag?”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a plot line from "According to Jim."

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Jan 12, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it'd be great if SNL went the way of the Groundlings or Second City

because it’s a fantastic breeding ground for comic talent – it’s just that it doesn’t really need to be seen on national TV. Either that or Lorne Michaels needs to step away from it – his ego is all over that show and that’s to its detriment.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lorne probably needs to step down.

…and Tina Fey needs to take over.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Niblets!

Argggggh. My G4 MDD tower died this weekend. I’m fairly confident it’s the power supply – which to purchase the part would be more than what the computer’s worth.

It was gaggingly slow for doing my photos, though, and I was hoping to buy a new one at some point anyway. Now I’m pretty much forced to do it, since my laptop just doesn’t cut it for doing critical work.

So, I’m trying to cobble together a budget. Likely it’ll be in the neighborhood of $1200-1500 absolute max. That pretty much rules out the new Mac Pro towers, so I’m having to hit the G5 tower market. And, hence, a used computer (which I’m really hesitant about in the first place, but as long as I wipe and low-level format the HD, I’m less creeped out by it).

My rules:

1) Has to run OS-X (10.4 is OK).
2) Has to have 1 gig memory at least
3) Has to be a reliable sytem
4) G5 processor at a minimum.
5) Tower, not a laptop – something I can hook my sweet 17" Studio display into. Yes, I know I can get a DVI-ADC connector (actually just got one so I can use it on my wife’s Mac Mini), but part of why I want a G5 is because of the ADC option. Towers are easier to expand and upgrade later, and generally are more reliable in my experience.

My friend was thinking about selling me his dual-1GHZ G4 tower which would be a nice bandaid, but I need something more long-term, and with the economy he’s very hesitant to buy a new computer for himself. So at this point, I’m not considering that to be an option.

Any Mac-savvy folks able to help a brother out???

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by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I actually don't want an iMac.

I don’t want one with a built-in screen.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

I’m well aware of CL stuff. I’m looking for potentially other sources. I just heard RE/PC might be a good option. Stuff like that…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes it is...

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by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My brother got one

Lets just say the video capabilities aren’t a gimmick

YES YES YES YES YES

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 12, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, they're really not.

That and the D90… I mean if Redrock already has accessories for both dSLRs as video cams, that’s a pretty reasonable endorsement of their video capabilities.

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by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Always take a look on eBay and CL.
This Mac Pro tower is going for $1300 on eBay

Looks to be a decent machine and it’s a generation up from your G4’s and G5’s.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I’ll have to watch Mac Pros on ebay. Certainly, ideally, I’d like an Intel-based Mac Pro. But, then again, I don’t have CS3 and I don’t really believe in torrenting, so…

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by PositivePaul on Jan 12, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whywhywhy can't The Verve just fucking END a song?

One of my pet peeves: Long-ass outros in songs.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

As BrianL would say:

Richard Ashcroft needs a fucking editor.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I have been wanting to put together a nice playlist that has a variety of music.

I have put it off for a long time now because every time I open my music collection, it just seems too daunting of a task to even get started. How would you suggest I go about tackling this problem? Go down the list by genre? Maybe just do artists from A-Z?

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 1:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is something I have yet to come to terms with.

I have two playlists. My “Music of Nobuo Uematsu” playlist and my “Cruising down the highway” playlist.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

See, I have like 15 different playlists broken up by genres.

Most of them only have 10-15 songs in the playlist because I never get around to completing them. I want to have a full playlist (300-400 songs) with a variety of genres that I can feel I can groove to whatever the situation. I’m just horrible at making playlists of a single genre that I don’t know how I am ever going to complete something so large with a variety of genres.

Gah! It’s frustrating.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a playlist for general listening, or for a specific use (work, gym, etc)?

What I would do is start by thinking of 15-20 of your favorite songs – songs that always come to mind when you think “what do I want to listen to now”? Then, build from there – find songs that sound similar, have similar tempos, and things like that.

Do you use iTunes? Smart playlists are great, because you can also set up a smart playlist that only features things you haven’t played in X amount of time, or things like that.

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by pdb on Jan 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would do artists alphabetically, but that's just my taste.

Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms. *edit: well, shit. This isn't going well.

by kevin_ess on Jan 12, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I do.

I go down the list alphabetically, adding whatever sounds good. If I then need to pare it down to fit onto a CD, I go through the list I’ve just made and get rid of the ones that don’t immediately jump out at me. As soon as I get it to the size I want, then I can tweak it to make a good flow.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

See, my problem going alphabetically is that jumping between genres changes my mood and then I want to go a totally different direction with it the whole playlist.

Maybe I will just start with one genre at a time, pick the best, and then combine them all. I just hate having the playlists I have because I know exactly what song and sound is going to come next. I want it to be like playing the radio and just a random, good song comes on.

by Wilder. on Jan 12, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm weird in that I usually have all sorts of genres in a single playlist.

Switching back and forth never bothers me. In fact, I start to get a little bored if I’m hearing too much of one thing.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I started using the little rating system on my iPod a little differently.

1- 4 stars each has a different play list. When I hear a new song and have an urge to put it into a specific play list, I usually forget about it by the time I get anywhere near my computer. This way I can use the iPod to give it a rating, and sort the songs out next time I sync the computer and iPod.
My biggest complaint about my iPod is the software isn’t intuitive enough, so I have to do junk like this to make it work for me.

Formerly dpseadvr.

by Kermit. on Jan 12, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit, Best Buy is blowing out video games right now.

Ninja Gaiden II – $9.99
Condemned 2 – $9.99
Guitar Hero III – $19.99
Saints Row 2 – $39.99

Plus more.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For $10, I might buy it for the second time.

(It got stolen a few weeks ago along with all my other games, so I’m rebuilding my collection.)

As Brian says, the graphics inexplicably got way worse, but they patched it so the frame rate is better, but still not good. But pitching is a blast. I like the game enough play it a few times a week, but it’s not great.

by Teej on Jan 12, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Has anybody played Civilization Revolution?

I guess I was expecting something a little more challenging (I’m a Civ II NUT) and was disappointed with the simplicity of this game. Though the animations were kinda funn.

by Phildopip on Jan 12, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ever since finding Fall From Heaven II I have yet to play a game of Vanilla Civ.

I’ll only get Civ add-ons if the FFH modders move on to the new expansion.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jan 12, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs