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Biggest Contribution: Brandon Morrow, +31.5%
Biggest Suckfest: Adrian Beltre, -6.2%
Most Important AB: Tuiasosopo double, +9.4%
Most Important Pitch: Jeter single, -7.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +42.9%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +7.1%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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Boy am I glad they kept him in the pen this year

I also want to find these nameless ‘AL Scout’ types who questioned the m’s moving him to the rotation. If I was as good at my job as you are at yours, I’d probably be arrested.

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, remains me of the Lewis Black routine about Al Roker

"I don’t know what’s more nuts…weather or the weathermen. A few years ago here in New York City, we had a blizzard. 36 inches of snow. I guess you Midwesterners would call that a dusting. Well, our weatherman at the time, Al Roker, predicted we’d have 4 – 12 inches of snow. Well, giving him the benefit of the doubt, that stills leaves him 2 feet off. This was an emergency condition. Now if you were a roofer and you built a roof and it was 2 feet off, you’d still be serving time. "

I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.

by ralphie81 on Sep 5, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Timmay who?

Remember when “50%” of the organization was against Morrow starting? Yeah, you guys feel real stupid right now.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Sep 5, 2008 9:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who the hell knows?

Did he even field a ball?

by Jeff on Sep 5, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually got curious and had to go look

He threw out A-Rod on a grounder in the 4th.
He caught a leadoff popup in the 5th from Giambi

That’s all.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone was really paying attention

I recall a “nice arm” comment though

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 5, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is way late but...

Anyone else hear Niehaus say tui was terrifc at 3rd base? I’m guessing Dave doesn’t have time to catch many Tacoma games…

by zeuswsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah true..

How do you think Tui will do with more experience at 3rd? does he have potential to be a solid 3rd baseman? That was my first time seeing him play live today

by zeuswsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's perpetually struggled with his defense in the minors

Of course, he’s also only 22 and did get rushed some in the minors. Things could change for the better with some work, but right now he’s Morse-like with his defense, which doesn’t help with a slower Yuni at SS.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yikes.

Morse-like is about as low as you can go

by zeuswsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Morse isn't terrible at third.

He IS terrible in the OF, and should never have even been allowed to experiment in the OF, but he can handle 3rd and 1st pretty respectably.

Tui’s got a ways to go defensively, especially since he’s only recently moved over to third. But he might get there yet. He just needs to remember to WATCH the ball into his glove:

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah, that's what I mean by Morse-like

His glove and physical abilities are okay. His fielding fundamentals needs work. His range… heh… well….

by Gomez on Sep 6, 2008 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I was trying to race home to watch the end of this, I got a call from work.

Our CC processing was down, and I’m the only person who could possibly hope to fix it. As soon as I hung up the phone, Betemit doubled. Goddammit.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 5, 2008 10:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

The two stats that jump out at me are
1. Morrow only threw his fastball 58% of the time tonight
2. Average fastball velocity: 95.7 MPH

Was good to see Morrow get a decent number of swing and misses on his breaking stuff

by zeuswsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No shit.

This was refreshing. Talent PLUS not pitching like an idiot!

by Teej on Sep 5, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

Nicely done.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Sep 6, 2008 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That just made the season so much easier to stomach.

Why oh why couldn’t he be in the rotation from the beginning?

(No answers please, it was rhetorical.)

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True dat.

I’m excited for Felix, Bedard, Morrow, SIlva, RRS?

That is what I’m praying for anyway…

by zeuswsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make RRS #4 and Silva #5 and it works for me.

If RRS ends up panning out as a #4 that is.

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you

Felix, Bedard (healthy), Morrow in the rotation is enough for me to get excited about next year. Even if Morrow struggled from time to time it would be better then watching the crap they threw out there this year.

by zeuswsu on Sep 5, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The nice thing is, if Morrow and RRS keep pitching well

It’s going to be very hard for them to justify keeping Washburn around next year.

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anywhere they can get partial salary relief for him, hopefully

I doubt they’ll get the full salary taken off their hands now but they can likely get a portion of it taken off their hands.

That is, if they stop being stupid and reverse course on the whole salary dump stubbornness now that they’ve gauged the fan outrage over it.

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if RRS pitches like crap and Morrow goes back to the pen

its going to be very hard for them to justify keeping Washburn around next year.

Washburn’s salary == Strasburg’s signing bonus

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 5, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're forgetting...

…who’s President of this club (and thinks he’s a pocket general manager)…

by rtang on Sep 5, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

It just won’t be justifiable from a rational person’s POV.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 6, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think one of the best parts of tonight

Was that (and I don’t have pitch F/X data to confirm this so take it with a big grain of salt), but it seemed like he didn’t have great control of his curveball, but he was still drawing swinging strikes with it when it was nowhere near the zone just because they were all sitting fastball.

Awesome what mixing your pitches can do.

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part:

I loved the fact he went so far with the no-no with Tui at 3d and Balentien in CF.

by batura on Sep 5, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had what, one-two plays?

I’d say it was a small sample size.. ha.

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's no good.

Does he stick at the position?

Seattle is running out of choices for a while if he is SOO awful.

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sold.

acblue in LF 2009!

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can WIllie?

Can Cairo?

Can Yuni?

Can Johjima?

Can Wlad?

Please stop me.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

makes more sense.

But Seattle obviously has better prospects slotted into the COF in the future.

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saunders, etc

Maybe even Prentice Redman, who knows.

by Taylor H on Sep 5, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have been better if I had replied to the right comment.

I’m Prenticing balls right now, though, so it’s not all that surprising.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 5, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that's why he never panned out

It was the peyote constantly flowing through his bloodstream.

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost died because of this post.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Sep 6, 2008 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's the outfield down in Tacoma now anyway?

There’s Reed and Balentien up here; who’s left?

by Taylor H on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Season's kind of over.

But Redman, Diaz maybe. Saunders. I gues…

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would make sense.

Moore should be up in AAA to start the year (off topic.. whatever)

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly.

I saw him hit an absolute blast in Portland’s PGE Park earlier in the year. Still.. he’s got no future.

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

WLAD made a couple of nice plays tonight.

by appleshampoo on Sep 5, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't heard

Not saying I’m a veteran LL’er, but I’ve been around off and on for a couple years and have never heard +1 forbidden. Gomez said WLAD isn’t that bad, I was just corraborating with evidence from tonights game, he had 2 really nice runnig catches. Does it mean he’s a gold glove CF, no, but he still has a small sample size as a ML CF so I think it’s relevant. Yuni has a big enough sample size that we pretty much know he sucks at his position.

by appleshampoo on Sep 5, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tui's arm and relative speed would be OK in the OF

Wlad, I hope today, showed people that he’s very, very respectable in CF. He made some pretty awesome plays to keep the no-no going…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buchholz isn't a fluke.

………………..yet.

by Taylor H on Sep 5, 2008 10:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True, but he hasn't shown that he is an MLB caliber SP.

Although he could very easily turn it around.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 5, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just wanted to make a comment.

I think Wlad showed that he can play a pretty decent CF, too. He looked real solid out there tonight…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 10:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He didn't really have great hands on that over the shoulder catch

But at least he made the catch, so I guess that’s all that matters.

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Him and Reed could tandem up nicely.

OR WE COULD SIGN ELLISON FOR FIVE YEARS 60 MIL WOOOO

by Taylor H on Sep 5, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still slow as fuck

I don’t like him out there unless it’s an emergency

by JI on Sep 6, 2008 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of range...

what the hell has gotten into Yuni? Watching chubs run around like that had me busting up.

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the most amazing games I've ever been to..obviously

The crowd was fantastic from about the 6th inning on. Everyone was kinda buzzing but no one really overtly clamoring about what they were watching. Getting loud and pumped up before the scoreboard told them too. 30k jumping to their feet all at one moment after each strikeout late in the game. I thought we were playing for something…and I think the fans knew what it was. Our future.

I’d like to thank Morrow for getting my weekend off to a fantastic start.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 5, 2008 10:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes agreed

I was fortunate enough to be behind home and I was up cheering after two strikes (a la the Randy days) from the beginning of the sixth. My Father-In-Law was having me do some stop watch work for him as he’s a scout but after five innings took it from me so, in his words, I could be a fan again.

Thank you Brandon. Tonight was an oasis in a large, hot desert.

Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!

by TheBishop on Sep 6, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually do this all the time.

I will be sitting listening to someone talk, then I lose my attention, and the first thing I think is “rewind” when I want to hear what they said. Unfortunately, I have lost the remote for life.

:(

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me, these sorts of emotional responses are just as much a part of why I'm a baseball fan as the positive ones.

Tino’s HR in Game 5 of the 2001 ALCS is probably my most vivid memory, and at the time it was unbearable. But Goddammit, I felt something.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 6, 2008 3:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, Tino. 3-run-HR in the 8th Inning off Paniagua.

Game was most likely already over (it was 9-3) but that was the “hey your season is over now” moment. It was an absolute bomb to CF, and I still remember Cammy going up and just hanging over the wall. That was the one that did me in.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 6, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh hey your right

The season died to me the night before anyway.

by Robert on Sep 6, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, now the crying comment makes sense.

I hadn’t seen this one.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 6, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much, yes.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 6, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't meant to be.

And yet I felt more satified with this game than any in recent memory. My heart was thumping hard, too. Sweating slightly.

My God! Did I just have sex without realizing it?

Bleeding Blue and Teal

by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really not mad that Brandon lost the no-hitter.

Not in the slightest, because Brandon did something far more important.

Hope for the future has been in short supply lately. Thanks, Brandon.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Foxsports.com
Yanks almost no-hit in loss to M’s Rookie Pitcher

Idiots

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Sep 6, 2008 12:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you fucking kidding me?

They don’t even have a picture for Morrow. News flash, he’s been in the big leagues for AN ENTIRE SEASON.

by appleshampoo on Sep 6, 2008 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only has he been in the bigs for almost an entire season

he was one of the best relievers in the entire AL the first half of this season…

by seattlebruin on Sep 6, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They should keep the sihouette instead of a picture.

Just add some glowing red eyes, maybe they pulse a bit, PRESTO!!

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 6, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damnit

Why oh why did i decide to not watch this game.

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

by wadswerth on Sep 6, 2008 3:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't believe it when I woke up.

The first thing I do every morning is grab my phone, check mlb.com and then LL. I was excited when I woke up – I wanted to know how Morrow had done. When the page was loading I thought to myself how awesome it would be if Morrow went 5 IP and only gave up a few hits.

Then the page loaded. The Yankees had TWO hits?!?!? Morrow with the ‘W’?!?!? I opened the box score page, loaded the M’s section … and for the first time in months, I was excited to be a Mariner again.

Well done, Brandon. Don’t ever suck.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 6, 2008 5:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

11:43 AM, Seattle Times is reporting that Wilson Betemit was killed ...

by a man apparently being identified only as “Robert”.

I like Mike (Saunders)

by Humongo on Sep 6, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We need letters for all of them

I nominate JD Drew to be “Player B”

by seattlebruin on Sep 6, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not my site, not my worries

Brian Roberts
Mike Hargrove
JD Drew
David Justice
Wilson Betimeit
Matt Thornton
Carlos Beltran
Mike Reilly

by Robert on Sep 6, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pardon my ignorance but...

Why Justice, Thornton and Reilly?

I like Mike (Saunders)

by Humongo on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hm, my guess

Justice: Backbreaking HR against M’s in playoffs.
Thornton: Epic suck
Reilly: Screwed us in rainy weather by not delaying game in downpour in 9th inning until Yankees had reclaimed the lead… also screwed us on a non-call in said 9th where a Yankee was clearly out at 1st but was called safe.

by Gomez on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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