55-85, Chart
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 5, 2008 9:47 PM PDT
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Biggest Contribution: Brandon Morrow, +31.5%
Biggest Suckfest: Adrian Beltre, -6.2%
Most Important AB: Tuiasosopo double, +9.4%
Most Important Pitch: Jeter single, -7.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +42.9%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +7.1%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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Boy am I glad they kept him in the pen this year
I also want to find these nameless ‘AL Scout’ types who questioned the m’s moving him to the rotation. If I was as good at my job as you are at yours, I’d probably be arrested.
Haha, remains me of the Lewis Black routine about Al Roker
"I don’t know what’s more nuts…weather or the weathermen. A few years ago here in New York City, we had a blizzard. 36 inches of snow. I guess you Midwesterners would call that a dusting. Well, our weatherman at the time, Al Roker, predicted we’d have 4 – 12 inches of snow. Well, giving him the benefit of the doubt, that stills leaves him 2 feet off. This was an emergency condition. Now if you were a roofer and you built a roof and it was 2 feet off, you’d still be serving time. "
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
Wow. Timmay who?
Remember when “50%” of the organization was against Morrow starting? Yeah, you guys feel real stupid right now.
Go Nova
Get it out of your system, Robert.
Today’s a day you should be happy.
Who the hell knows?
Did he even field a ball?
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 5, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually got curious and had to go look
He threw out A-Rod on a grounder in the 4th.
He caught a leadoff popup in the 5th from Giambi
That’s all.
I don't think anyone was really paying attention
I recall a “nice arm” comment though
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He actually looked good, didnt look bad in any at bat, nice opposite field double
and even his fly outs to center, were pretty good swings.
This is way late but...
Anyone else hear Niehaus say tui was terrifc at 3rd base? I’m guessing Dave doesn’t have time to catch many Tacoma games…
The radio crew's going to talk up the local boy in his debut
It almost didn’t matter how Tui did today.
Yeah true..
How do you think Tui will do with more experience at 3rd? does he have potential to be a solid 3rd baseman? That was my first time seeing him play live today
He's perpetually struggled with his defense in the minors
Of course, he’s also only 22 and did get rushed some in the minors. Things could change for the better with some work, but right now he’s Morse-like with his defense, which doesn’t help with a slower Yuni at SS.
yikes.
Morse-like is about as low as you can go
Morse isn't terrible at third.
He IS terrible in the OF, and should never have even been allowed to experiment in the OF, but he can handle 3rd and 1st pretty respectably.
Tui’s got a ways to go defensively, especially since he’s only recently moved over to third. But he might get there yet. He just needs to remember to WATCH the ball into his glove:
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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Well yeah, that's what I mean by Morse-like
His glove and physical abilities are okay. His fielding fundamentals needs work. His range… heh… well….
As I was trying to race home to watch the end of this, I got a call from work.
Our CC processing was down, and I’m the only person who could possibly hope to fix it. As soon as I hung up the phone, Betemit doubled. Goddammit.
J.K.L.
Clearly it was your fault.
I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 6, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
The two stats that jump out at me are
1. Morrow only threw his fastball 58% of the time tonight
2. Average fastball velocity: 95.7 MPH
Was good to see Morrow get a decent number of swing and misses on his breaking stuff
Seriously, somebody send Felix a printout of the pitch distribution from today's game.
And HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THE OFFSPEED STUFF
What's funny is Morrow's fastball is better than Felix's, and Felix has sick breaking stuff.
This is like the opposite of what should be happening.
Stottlemyre: You need to establish the fastball.
Morrow: Establish this, bitch. [EPIC PIMP SLAP]
Stottlemyre: [flies into dugout]
Morrow: I learned that from some Vanilla Ice wannabe in Tacoma.
by Gomez on Sep 6, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
That just made the season so much easier to stomach.
Why oh why couldn’t he be in the rotation from the beginning?
(No answers please, it was rhetorical.)
True dat.
I’m excited for Felix, Bedard, Morrow, SIlva, RRS?
That is what I’m praying for anyway…
Make RRS #4 and Silva #5 and it works for me.
If RRS ends up panning out as a #4 that is.
If we had a real SS, non-disastrous LF defense, and an average 1B and DH, blah blah blah this team is dumb but I'm excited so I'll shut up.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear you
Felix, Bedard (healthy), Morrow in the rotation is enough for me to get excited about next year. Even if Morrow struggled from time to time it would be better then watching the crap they threw out there this year.
If they are going to blow things up (and they are going to blow things up) it's nice that I'm more excited about Morrow than I was at 7:00 tonight.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The nice thing is, if Morrow and RRS keep pitching well
It’s going to be very hard for them to justify keeping Washburn around next year.
Where is he going to go, though?
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Anywhere they can get partial salary relief for him, hopefully
I doubt they’ll get the full salary taken off their hands now but they can likely get a portion of it taken off their hands.
That is, if they stop being stupid and reverse course on the whole salary dump stubbornness now that they’ve gauged the fan outrage over it.
I envision the world's most expensive bullpen by mid-season next year.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be okay with that at this point
Washburn can be the Tug McGraw to Silva’s Goose Gossage for all I care.
Even if RRS pitches like crap and Morrow goes back to the pen
its going to be very hard for them to justify keeping Washburn around next year.
Washburn’s salary == Strasburg’s signing bonus
I see the future. I see cake.
You're forgetting...
…who’s President of this club (and thinks he’s a pocket general manager)…
I think one of the best parts of tonight
Was that (and I don’t have pitch F/X data to confirm this so take it with a big grain of salt), but it seemed like he didn’t have great control of his curveball, but he was still drawing swinging strikes with it when it was nowhere near the zone just because they were all sitting fastball.
Awesome what mixing your pitches can do.
My favorite part:
I loved the fact he went so far with the no-no with Tui at 3d and Balentien in CF.
Tui's D
Better than Willie’s. Worse than Beltre’s.
Overall, he’s a solid defensive 3B.
by .Taylor on Sep 5, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
This is about as different from everything else I've heard as is possible.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That's no good.
Does he stick at the position?
Seattle is running out of choices for a while if he is SOO awful.
I have heard from many different sources of varying credibility that his future is most likely at a corner OF spot.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
He couldn't be any worse than Raul.
Right?
Right?
I'm pretty sure I would be better than Raul.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What if I "forgot" to secure my belt and chased a flyball with my pants around my ankles?
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd play an entire gmae with TP stuck to my cleats.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again, amirite?
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
If you strike out 500 times a year, you can't hit into double plays and Ichiro gets a lot of strikes to run on.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Saunders, etc
Maybe even Prentice Redman, who knows.
by .Taylor on Sep 5, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Prentice Redman is 27 and not a prospect.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You should try it. Gets you fucked up pretty good.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would have been better if I had replied to the right comment.
I’m Prenticing balls right now, though, so it’s not all that surprising.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So that's why he never panned out
It was the peyote constantly flowing through his bloodstream.
Who's the outfield down in Tacoma now anyway?
There’s Reed and Balentien up here; who’s left?
by .Taylor on Sep 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Halman will probably be in AA to start the year, I'm assuming.
He might get up sometime, though.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly.
I saw him hit an absolute blast in Portland’s PGE Park earlier in the year. Still.. he’s got no future.
+1
WLAD made a couple of nice plays tonight.
by appleshampoo on Sep 5, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I hadn't heard
Not saying I’m a veteran LL’er, but I’ve been around off and on for a couple years and have never heard +1 forbidden. Gomez said WLAD isn’t that bad, I was just corraborating with evidence from tonights game, he had 2 really nice runnig catches. Does it mean he’s a gold glove CF, no, but he still has a small sample size as a ML CF so I think it’s relevant. Yuni has a big enough sample size that we pretty much know he sucks at his position.
by appleshampoo on Sep 5, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Tui's arm and relative speed would be OK in the OF
Wlad, I hope today, showed people that he’s very, very respectable in CF. He made some pretty awesome plays to keep the no-no going…
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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's just hope this isn't a fluke
like Clay Buchholz and his MLB debut.
I see the future. I see cake.
True, but he hasn't shown that he is an MLB caliber SP.
Although he could very easily turn it around.
I see the future. I see cake.
I just wanted to make a comment.
I think Wlad showed that he can play a pretty decent CF, too. He looked real solid out there tonight…
This signature space for rent.
He didn't really have great hands on that over the shoulder catch
But at least he made the catch, so I guess that’s all that matters.
Agreed.
Him and Reed could tandem up nicely.
OR WE COULD SIGN ELLISON FOR FIVE YEARS 60 MIL WOOOO
by .Taylor on Sep 5, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The way Balentien has looked at the plate, playing a competent CF would
appear to be his only shot at sticking here long term. His .230/300 BA/OBP with 20-25 homers could maybe be passable in CF
He's still slow as fuck
I don’t like him out there unless it’s an emergency
by JI on Sep 6, 2008 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of range...
what the hell has gotten into Yuni? Watching chubs run around like that had me busting up.
Maybe they've started him on an exercise regimen finally
….probably not.
I'll blame it on the atmosphere.
I’m betting he needs an epic nap after tonight.
by JonBBT on Sep 5, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yuniesky Betancourt placed on the 60 day DL due to chubbyness.
by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yuniesky Betancourt placed on the 60-day DL to keep Bedard company
by .Taylor on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would partially explain the difficulty hitting,
since diabetic neuropathy affects the retina, diminishing the effective visual field.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
One of the most amazing games I've ever been to..obviously
The crowd was fantastic from about the 6th inning on. Everyone was kinda buzzing but no one really overtly clamoring about what they were watching. Getting loud and pumped up before the scoreboard told them too. 30k jumping to their feet all at one moment after each strikeout late in the game. I thought we were playing for something…and I think the fans knew what it was. Our future.
I’d like to thank Morrow for getting my weekend off to a fantastic start.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I knew something was going on the minute I turned on the radio in the 7th.
The crowd was absolutely electric.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't heard it like that in years
I fucking hate you Mariners
Yes agreed
I was fortunate enough to be behind home and I was up cheering after two strikes (a la the Randy days) from the beginning of the sixth. My Father-In-Law was having me do some stop watch work for him as he’s a scout but after five innings took it from me so, in his words, I could be a fan again.
Thank you Brandon. Tonight was an oasis in a large, hot desert.
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
I actually do this all the time.
I will be sitting listening to someone talk, then I lose my attention, and the first thing I think is “rewind” when I want to hear what they said. Unfortunately, I have lost the remote for life.
:(
You can't hear that crowd and the roars...it was fantastic. Kingdome-like.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I curled up into a little ball and nearly cried after the double though
by Graham MacAree on Sep 6, 2008 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
To me, these sorts of emotional responses are just as much a part of why I'm a baseball fan as the positive ones.
Tino’s HR in Game 5 of the 2001 ALCS is probably my most vivid memory, and at the time it was unbearable. But Goddammit, I felt something.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 3:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope, Tino. 3-run-HR in the 8th Inning off Paniagua.
Game was most likely already over (it was 9-3) but that was the “hey your season is over now” moment. It was an absolute bomb to CF, and I still remember Cammy going up and just hanging over the wall. That was the one that did me in.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, now the crying comment makes sense.
I hadn’t seen this one.
I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 6, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much, yes.
I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 6, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
But guyz Morrow is more valuable in teh bullpen~!1!!1
I’m so upset I missed this game…if he’d actually gotten a no-hitter I may have just knifed myself.
I want to find every FO exec who might have thought Morrow would be better for the club in the bullpen,
show them a tape of today’s game, then shove that tape up their ass.
It wasn't meant to be.
And yet I felt more satified with this game than any in recent memory. My heart was thumping hard, too. Sweating slightly.
My God! Did I just have sex without realizing it?
I'm really not mad that Brandon lost the no-hitter.
Not in the slightest, because Brandon did something far more important.
Hope for the future has been in short supply lately. Thanks, Brandon.
My wife asks me this all the time.
Fuckin' Richie Sexson man!
He's decided not to jump after all.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Awwwwwwwwwww.
I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 6, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Good luck, my neihgborhood is dangerous.
I got robbed last weeked.
But I will take both scoops of his Raisin Brandno morrws
I read "epic,"
and for some reason, this is the first thing I could think of.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 5, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's say, hypothetically, that Adrian Beltre is traded this offseason.
Who do you think emerges as the frontrunner for everyday third baseman? Tui, maybe Lopez, someone else I’m missing? Morse? (bleh)
Beltre is probably my favorite M right now
So yes, it sucks. But it could become an important issue sooner than later.
Let's jump off that bridge when we come to it.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
The fall won't even be fun.
I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 6, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
According to Foxsports.com
Yanks almost no-hit in loss to M’s Rookie Pitcher
Idiots
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
Are you fucking kidding me?
They don’t even have a picture for Morrow. News flash, he’s been in the big leagues for AN ENTIRE SEASON.
He's no Joba.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Not only has he been in the bigs for almost an entire season
he was one of the best relievers in the entire AL the first half of this season…
They should keep the sihouette instead of a picture.
Just add some glowing red eyes, maybe they pulse a bit, PRESTO!!
"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.
Damnit
Why oh why did i decide to not watch this game.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Couldn't believe it when I woke up.
The first thing I do every morning is grab my phone, check mlb.com and then LL. I was excited when I woke up – I wanted to know how Morrow had done. When the page was loading I thought to myself how awesome it would be if Morrow went 5 IP and only gave up a few hits.
Then the page loaded. The Yankees had TWO hits?!?!? Morrow with the ‘W’?!?!? I opened the box score page, loaded the M’s section … and for the first time in months, I was excited to be a Mariner again.
Well done, Brandon. Don’t ever suck.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
Last thought upon sleeping, first thought upon waking.
I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 6, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
11:43 AM, Seattle Times is reporting that Wilson Betemit was killed ...
by a man apparently being identified only as “Robert”.
I like Mike (Saunders)
We need letters for all of them
I nominate JD Drew to be “Player B”
Not my site, not my worries
Brian Roberts
Mike Hargrove
JD Drew
David Justice
Wilson Betimeit
Matt Thornton
Carlos Beltran
Mike Reilly
Hm, my guess
Justice: Backbreaking HR against M’s in playoffs.
Thornton: Epic suck
Reilly: Screwed us in rainy weather by not delaying game in downpour in 9th inning until Yankees had reclaimed the lead… also screwed us on a non-call in said 9th where a Yankee was clearly out at 1st but was called safe.
I nominate Ryan Franklin
and I would nominate Ayala bu that’s just a big fat cliche
by JI on Sep 7, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I was about 10 when Ayala was around
And I hated his guts because my dad told me to.
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