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The Off-Topic Thread of Pre-Weekend Joy (September 5th edition)

So there's a new 24-Hour Fitness center in Everett, and it's awesome. I spent an hour on a cross-trainer eliptical machine and didn't care because they mounted a TV on top of it so I could watch the NFL opener.

In the news today:

US readies for Hanna; Category-4 Ike close behind.

Sony recalls 440,000 Vaio laptops, further proof that you should buy a Lenovo Thinkpad.

Yesterday was the 15th anniversary of Jim Abbott's no-hitter.

For Robert - Lofa Tatupu's fine.

Team NINJA and Tecmo settle lawsuit, Itagaki not part of the settlement.

Sting to appear as a Guitar Hero in-game character.

The first KORG-DS10 album has been released.

Other topics for discussion:

  • What gives Mr. Sullivan his powers of awesomeness? Does he have a "kryptonite?"
  • Why does Matthew prefer blueberry muffins over poppy seed?
  • When did The X-Files jump the shark?
  • What's your favorite under-appreciated TV series
  • Anyone using a cool iPhone app? 
  • Why do I lead such a dull and boring life?
  • What the hell am I supposed to think about this:

 

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Ghostbusters III is go

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Two writers from the US version of The Office have been recruited to write a third instalment of Ghostbusters, according to trade newspaper Variety.

Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky’s hiring is seen as a sure sign the long-mooted comedy will finally be made.

Ghostbusters and its 1989 sequel saw Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis as bumbling scientists who rid New York of paranormal threats.

It is hoped the new film will reunite the original cast.

by Alex B on Sep 5, 2008 7:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh whatever.

They’ve been talking about this for years.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not excited about this

Bill Murray has turned into a petulant dick in his old age, and I have no interest in seeing him chew scenery again, 20 years later.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

True.

One of the few things I’ve read or seen with him recently that I could stand.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of related (in a petulent actor way) -

why is Chevy Chase so much of a purported prick that he can’t be in funny movies anymore???

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

National Lampoons were awesome movies.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vacation was good

the rest of them were very, very meh.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fletch wasn't a Nat'l Lampoon, was it?

Fletch was indeed a great movie.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't believe so.

And yes, Fletch ruled.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll go out on a limb and say that Christmas Vacation was the best of the catalog.

But without the first Vacation formula, Christmas Vacation probably doesn’t exist.

Hey, you suck McBain.

by oc on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I liked Christmas Vacation the best, but Vacation is still a classic. You can’t go wrong with either choice.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, all these guys are beyond their years

A 3rd Ghostbusters just won’t work unless there’s some new blood.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which would probably make it worse

because that new blood would probably be Dane Cook or something.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as it involved Dane Cook crossing the streams, I'd be cool with it.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe crossing the streams at the beginning of the movie perhaps?

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

DANGER DANGER DANGER

that’s almost as bad as Dane Cook.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has a schtick

and that schtick can be funny, but more often than not he’s an annoying frat boy.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very true.

Worked in Wedding Crashers, though.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

I enjoyed Dodgeball, and thought the Break-Up was decent, but aside from that his star vehicles have been pretty bad.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Swingers. Made.

Awesome.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually had a discussion with a friend earlier this week about this

I can’t stand Dane Cook but love Vince Vaughn and for him the opposite is true.

by Robert on Sep 5, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vince Vaughn, Jack Black, and Ben Stiller might work.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Black is a terrible actor

And I say this with Tenacious D being one of my top 3 favorite bands of all time

by Robert on Sep 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's that bad an actor.

I love School of Rock for all of it’s cheesiness.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You could throw Owen Wilson in as the 4th.

I can feel my nerd blood pressure rising already.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, he'd be good.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Rock.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was my first thought.

He’s no Ernie Hudson, but he’ll do.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Chappelle.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

As Tron.

Hey, you suck McBain.

by oc on Sep 5, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

but I’d love to see Steve Carell cast in a new Ghostbusters flick.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck happened to the Moses one, though?

That whole movie was riding on him, and it felt like an anal fissure watching it in the theater.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 5, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad I have no idea what this feels like.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't see it.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is not.

I don’t know anyone who has seen it.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw it and did not enjoy it

Steve Carell played the same character he plays in every other movie and the office, and it was boring. The Rock was really bad. The plot was like swiss cheese. On the upside Anne Hathaway is hot, but she didn’t get naked.

All this coming from someone who has only vague memories of the original show though.

by appleshampoo on Sep 5, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

Michael Schur is the man.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, where are the tags?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Gracias.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Favorite unappreciated tv series?

There are so many.

Arrested Development.
Freaks & Geeks
Sports Night
How I Met Your Mother
Firefly

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I must be the only person on the planet who thought Firefly kinda sucked and was WAY overrated.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like scifi or westerns

but for some reason I really liked Firefly. I can see why people wouldn’t, though.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You and the millions of people who didn't watch it, and thus its early demise.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to admit I never saw an episode.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and most of those short-lived TV series don't have an on-going story.

They have episodes that wrap up within the show’s timeframe. Maybe Firefly is that way, but from the previews I have seen, it is an on-going story similar to something like Lost. If Lost ended abruptly without a conclusion, I wouldn’t ever consider watching it, no matter how good the first few seasons or 20 episodes were.

I don’t want to get caught up in something that is going to end in disappointment. And I will say sci-fi isn’t really my thing in the first place. I probably wouldn’t like Firefly based on this notion, although I would give it a chance if it wasn’t so short-lived.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can spot the exact moment when the Firefly cast found out the show wasn't going to continue

(the mourning scene in the snow, for those that have seen the series) and after that, the show doesn’t quite roll as smoothly, but the movie did tie up the show pretty well.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Serenity'

Great film, can stand on it’s own without the series, I didn’t netflix the series until after the film. Personally I thought it was everything the new set of Star Wars could have been (more Han Solo!!) Lot of action, compelling characters, nice story line.

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chiwetel Ejiofor!!

Great actor, hadn’t heard of him until this movie, now I look for him. Awesome heavy, really terrific bad guy, real scene stealer.

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like it that much

my coworkers at the time were so into it that I gained some appreciation for it but I didn’t think it was all that.

I think if it had lasted longer people would’ve seen how bad it was.

Also one of my favorites that probably sucks, Briscoe County Jr.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 5, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yes.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

In order-

1. –

2. – Can’t risk flunking court mandated U.A.s.

3. – After the movie.

4. – King of the Hill.

5. – I’m obsessed with Wikipanion. Not all that exciting, I suppose, but still awesome.

6. – Can’t drink?

7. – Stay away from MDMA.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 AM PDT reply actions  

King of the Hill is one of the more subtle hilarious shows.

Hank has to go down with Costanza and Homer Simpson as one of the greatest characters ever.

Agree with # 7, but somebody has talent to put that vid together

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I talk to people all the time that hate King of the Hill.

I just don’t get it. Maybe the humor is too subtle, maybe the jokes fly over the heads of people who aren’t from the south. I dunno’. It’s one of my favorite shows of all-time, though.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love King of the Hill.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, King of the Hill is pretty good.

I’m still waiting for the day when Beavis and Butthead make a cameo.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And now I'm sad.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beavis and Butthead Do America was one of the greatest moments of my childhood.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like it a lot

but I always forget to watch it. I’ve been catching up on the DVD’s.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking about ordering the whole series.

I’ve got all of the Simpsons that’s been released, and I like King of the Hill almost as much.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The opening song by The Refreshments always makes me smile

Am I the only person who really liked that band? They were straight fun times rock and roll but they just disappeared on me years ago.

by Sec 108 on Sep 5, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paraphrase

I’ve got the bullets
so I’ll take the Peso’s
yeah that’s not bad

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah its been about a decade

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a combo.

I’ve got the pistol
So I’ll take the pesos.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOVE love love.

Now of course it’s Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers, in case you didn’t know.

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even better, in my opinion.

I just love his voice, and how much fun the songs are.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I should get off my curmudgeonly ass

And check it out then. I gigged with them once in Tempe in ’95 and they were awesome guys.

by Sec 108 on Sep 5, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to say

I appreciate you guys doing this. I don’t watch the news to keep myself sane so it is nice to read some decent articles that are not about the apocalypse.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I hate to say this, but we're all going to die at 4:00 PM today. I just heard it on the 700 Club.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sucks too, as i was going to have a really good hamburger at 5:00.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that 4pm our time or east coast time?

The apocalypse has an east coast bias.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mountain time.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a real big fan of this band,

But damn is this ever an awesome cover of Holy Diver. Not to mention being an overall excellent music video.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Also, that drummers beard is epic.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should see his back.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm attempting to grow something similar.

A decent beard is rare around here it seems. I’m bringing it back.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that most of them are in reference to classic movies.

The secret to successful pop culture satire is to satirize things that have already stood the test of time; that way, your chances of being relevant ten years out are much better.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

IIIIIT STINKS!

man, I loved that show.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was a cartoon years ago about a psychiatrist.

I’m trying to look up the name, but the cartoon was awesome, and each week there was a famous comedian who played his patient.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!!! THAT'S my pick.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Jay Sherman FTW

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Lovitz is an underappreciated comic genius

he’s really never done anything I haven’t liked.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

His scene in Happiness is one of those few times I've openly wept at a movie.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Happiness

Is one of those movies that evokes emotions from me far different from weeping

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The rest of the movie, yes

but Lovitz’s scene at the very beginning of the movie is so heartbreaking.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of movies with Happy in the title that invoke emotional responces

I just watched this yesterday. Excellent movie.

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.277/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't much enjoy it.

It is a great story, it just seemed to miss a lot of details I would have expected in a real life story.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't a fan of Patton Oswalt until recently

I shouldn’t say that – all I knew him from was Ratatouille. I knew he was a standup comic, but never heard his stuff; he played the Sub Pop comedy show, though, and he was freakin’ hysterical. On a night that David Cross absolutely SUCKED BALLS, Oswalt was the funniest part of the whole night.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was absolutely awful.

He came out and started making a bunch of inside jokes about Jews in Hollywood. In Seattle. Where there are 9 Jewish people and no movie industry. When those fell flat, he really got rattled; about 10 min into the set, a baby started crying, so he started making fun of the baby, wouldn’t let up even when the jokes didn’t land, and he just sounded like a dick. 20 minutes into his set, he couldn’t find his notes, so he left the stage to find them – he got Patton Oswalt to come back out while he looked. He found his notes, started telling the jokes on them, and they were even worse.

By this point, the crowd wasn’t even in the mood to heckle; they were just waiting for Kristin Schaal to come back out.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's too bad.

I’ve seen him just absolutely kill live, but the nature of his comedy is such that complete failure is always a distinct possibility.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was really, really looking forward to his set

and it was really just cringeworthy. I’m ok with comedic failure, but this wasn’t even that good – once his Hollywood jokes fell flat, he just mailed the rest of it in, and it was painful to watch.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy moley - There are millions of Jewish folks in Seattle.

I think they’re most of the population of the Queen Anne area.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right

but the nature of Seattle is such that people don’t wear their religions on their sleeves like they do in other cities, so it seems like making jokes based on religious stereotypes/archetypes doesn’t fly so well in Seattle.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

True.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ever hang out in Bryant/Wedgewood/Viewridge?

Lots of Jewish family’s around, I’m completely ignorant of the religion, but many appear to be Orthodox of some type. Yarmulke’s, beards, the curls in front of the ears. Pretty interesting conversations at the park.

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's something on 35th, not sure if it's Orthodox.

Judging by the crowd coming and going, it may be. And the new Jewish center in the U-District is a pretty building architecturally. Nice addition for that corner, surprised me they put it there, frat central.

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right

Saw him when he came to UW a few years ago and he was terrible. I was so pumped to see him do stand up too. He did manage to offend pretty much the entire crowd in one way or another, so that was cool.

On a related note, I still miss Mr. Show

by ack on Sep 5, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go watch Run Ronnie Run sometime

And no what it’s like to live in the south.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

no = know

Which is what Sonny will be throwing tonight

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by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 5, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love, love Patton Oswalt

If your life had a face, I'd punch it in the balls.

by royalcurve on Sep 5, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Answers

- He keeps drinking the chemicals in his workplace.
- Because you touch yourself at night.
- Fanfic. Fanfic is always the point of shark-jumpage.
- I think, given a broader look, any underappreciated TV series is ultimately very appreciated. Underappreciated series usually get canceled.
- No iPhone sorry
- Because you touc- because you need to go outside more.
- I’m so thankful I’m at work and filters won’t let me see this.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Okay, so BrianL (or anyone else)

I’m looking to find someone who is upgrading to a new laptop and has a fairly newish laptop in decent shape they’re willing to part with for cheap. Any ideas other than Craigslist? I know I’ve asked before, but I’m desperate.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks - I'll look into it.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uhhh.... Cheap?

I mean, this has to be something someone just wants to part with because they’ve got something better, you know?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd troll Craigslist.

And like I’ve said before, Thinkpads are awesome and you would love one.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any of 'em, or are some better than others

if key features equal battery life/hardiness/etc.
I don’t need super top of the line stuff. Just a solid machine for when I get too tired of trying to type on the tiny eeePC keyboard.

(and Kevin, if you want cheap, look at the eeepc. Don’t know what you want to do with the laptop, but if you just want cheap/fast/reliable, there you go. No optical drive, pretty much no storage, so it ain’t for everything)

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've looked at those - I go back and forth on the storage issue.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

We use the eeePCs as loaner laptops at my office.

They’re great for e-mail and DVD viewing purposes (if you buy an external reader), but I wouldn’t want to type on them for any extended length of time. Add to that, the default partitioning and primary drive size is an absolute bitch to work with.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The T-Series thinkpads are the tanks of Lenovo's lineups.

The X-series are the lighter, more battery efficient model.

Personally I’d go with the X-60 model. Mid-range price, great performance, good battery life.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

And just to elaborate on how great Thinkpads are

I’ve had an R50p for four years now and it’s still a strong laptop. All I’ve had to do was replace the lithium battery.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I'd like to add some more RAM to my laptop, but I've never done such a thing before.

How difficult a process is it for a complete and total novice/moron such as myself? Having 1 GB of memory is starting to get slightly annoying.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Depends on the laptop.

You can usually find service manuals that make it pretty easy.

Google “yourmodellaptop## service manual”, and you should be able to tell how easy it will be.

HPs, Dells, are pretty easy. Old thinkpad T series, old compaqs, vaios are a pain in the ass.

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by Faux on Sep 5, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I now have a reason to get a Nintendo DS

Oh.

Em.

Gee.

I want this.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Ahahahahahahaha!

They thought it looked like the MS-20!

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine is really into noise music

and a lot of her scene buddies are super excited for this.

I was impressed by the quality of the album. Not really my type of music but it was pretty well done.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 5, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not really my type of music either

but I can’t help but be incredibly impressed with the fact it was created on a freaking handheld gaming device.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who is going to the game tonight?

And does anyone know someone who knows someone who has extra tickets?

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

You need? I have.

Ummmm…crap. Reply quickly. I don’t want to post my cell number on here but I won’t have internet for very long.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I tried to get one on Stub Hub but they said

they would let me know when the seller confirms within 48 hours? WTF?

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, sorry. It looked smaller than it turned out.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Much much smaller

but you know there’s legions of Apple fanboys out there that are drooling over this even though it’s completely not real.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow - why does it look so small on my computer?? Weird.

Sorry again – feel free to hide it.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looks fine on my monitor.

But then again I don’t have a 15 inch screen like most of people here it seems.

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by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fine:

But then again I don’t have a 15 inch screen 800×600 resolution like most of people here it seems.

Or:

But then again I don’t have a 15 inch screenI’m not on dialup like most of people here it seems.

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by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Calling PositivePaul

PostivePaul to the white courtesy IPhone please.

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by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

No, the OTHER white courtesy iPhone, please…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn. That really sucks.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was oddly affected by reading it as well

considering I haven’t even THOUGHT about Todd Cruz since about 1984.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that picture of him.

Put him on ice and he wins the gold.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

He looks like he's smiling as he pirouettes towards the ball

9.8
9.7
6.4
9.7
9.8

stupid Russian judge.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't he the guy that coined "the Mendoza Line" phrase?

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good guess. I'm looking, this ought to take me awhile.

I’ve only heard Dave Niehaus tell that story about a zillion times, which is why this is bothering me.

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by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice - I've never seen this.
Sometimes when I reflect on all the beer I drink, I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. I think, “It is better to drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver.”
— Babe Ruth

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

A True American Hero

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by Goose on Sep 5, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a gigantic whoosh

Or am I gonna do a great show today and help people?

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

So did anyone see any decent shows/planning on seeing decent shows at MFNW?

I got to feel like a kid again last night, and I don’t even mind not being able to hear anymore.

Picked up that funhouse comp featuring a track from acblue’s band as well.

Anyone see Steel Pole Bathtub?

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

The AFCGT song on that thing just absolutely rips.

Loves me some Part Man Part Horse and the Intelligence as well. And that live Pierced Arrows song is, of course, quite brilliant.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will sadly be out of town this weekend

and there’s nobody playing tonight that I really want to see. The Gits movie is showing today, but it’s at the Mission at 1pm and I have to work.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's because it's a fantastic song.

The disc that contains that song (is that disc 2?) is my favorite of the three 69 Love Songs discs.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is indeed

and it fit right in after “Into My Arms”. Even the photographer was impressed with our music selection (we did the whole thing ourselves). He wanted a copy of the playlist.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

At the wedding I shot a few weeks ago, I was wondering why they didn’t play more Coldplay…

(I’m KIDDING, sheesh!)

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nick Cave's "Into My Arms"?

That’s a beautiful song.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's the one. Indeed it is.

And I don’t regret choosing it for a minute, even though it was seemingly EIGHTEEN GODDAMN MINUTES LONG when the entire assembled wedding gathering was watching us.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I wish my wife had allowed Nick Cave in the wedding.

Unfortunately, she can’t get the song “The Carny” out of her head.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we didn't use that one.

We thought about using The Curse Of Millhaven towards the end of the night, just to make sure everyone left before we had to surrender the room, but that didn’t happen either.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

"No Pussy Blues" would be a pretty hilarious song to play at a wedding.

Probably aren’t a lot of people that would go for it, though.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really, really love that song

we didn’t even ponder that one, unfortunately, mostly because we were focused on finding things that people could/would dance to.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stagger Lee would've been awesome.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

While completely off the topic,

We played Aretha Franklin’s “Oh Me Oh My (I’m a Fool for You)” for our first dance. I think the fool part is about me.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wedding advice:

While Into My Arms (Nick Cave) is a fantastic song, for a first dance it’s UNBELIEVABLY LONG. About halfway through it, my wife looked at me and said “is this song EVER going to end?” So, yeah, go with something shorter.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Papa was a rodeo, mama was a rock n roll band...

Good god I love that song.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 5, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uhh...
Ears ringing? The Monkey Pub isn’t quite as frenetic a scene, and it’s cheap(ish).

Cheapish yes, but if you’re ears are ringing, the Monkey Pub on a Saturday night is a really, really bad place to go for some quiet. It’s tiny, has low ceilings and books nothing but really, really loud bands.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you Holly Anderson

BTW, Joshua Ellis’ Citylife column was also called All Tomorrow’s Parties and it predated this drek by about a decade.

Hot-Spots columns are usually mainstream fluff, and worthless.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tangenitally related:

One of these days I’m going to figure out a way to get to the All Tomorrow’s Parties festival.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Work will pretty much guarantee that I can’t make ATP or SXSW, but who knows. Maybe someday.

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can never be forgiven

for Horse With No Name or whatever that damn song is called.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go to Pandora right now

And add The Association, the Zombies, The Ocean Blue, and Simon & Garfunkel to your America channel, and that’s pretty much what I listen to all day.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should have taken today off

we submitted last night and half the team isn’t here today.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 5, 2008 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

D'oh lead programmer just walked into my area

and saw me playing Madden on my dev kit. Didn’t say anything about it but did give me something to look into.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 5, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Self Adhesive records and our own studio, haven't done Avast.

I’ve heard good things, though.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

$500 (not including tape) for 12 hours, considering what their set up is like, is a pretty good deal.

I’m just wondering if it might be a little overboard for our purposes. (Of course, there’s a chance we might not be the ones that are paying for it, so in that case it’s a moot point.)

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

True. My dork-ass bandmates shelled out 15 grand (you read that right)

for our last album. It sounds GREAT, but we could have recorded a good enough demo ourselves and simply paid to have it mastered by Endino (like our first album).

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what Endino's rates are like...

I know he won’t engineer anything he doesn’t think is good, so it might be moot, but that would be pretty awesome.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest, I have no idea.

I never dealt with the monetary side of things.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to be in a band...

…of course beyond the church band I’m currently in, of course.

I want to put my digital recording studio into use. For things other than my kid trying to sing, of course…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course...

… no doubt about it.

Why the HECK did I use “Of course” three times in that post, including twice in the same sentence…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got a game on my iPhone called Labyrinth.

It’s basically a digital representation of that old labyrinth toy. You hold the iPhone parallel to the ground and tilt it to move the ball towards the finish line.

by borgy on Sep 5, 2008 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's cool

I downloaded that a few weeks ago.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, this seems like a good place to ask

I turn 21 on Monday. I have never consumed alcohol in my life, honest to G-d truth.

I’m planning on waiting until Friday to actually drink, due to scheduling reasons, but what should I try?

I’ll probably have assloads of birthday money, so cost probably wouldn’t be a major object, but I don’t wanna go out and blow a load of cash on something I might not enjoy.

by Fez on Sep 5, 2008 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you actually going to do a full-on 21 run bender thing, or something a bit less extreme?

It’s hard to answer that question until your Friday plan is clear – the answer really depends on your goal. The fact that you’ve never drunk or been drunk before kinda changes the parameters a bit.

If the goal is to get so blasted that you don’t remember the evening, a mix of Jagermeister and beer should do the trick. If, however, you want to have some memories of the evening, I’d stick with beer.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a 3-day weekend

I’m planning on, hopefully, having some memories, but I am perfectly fine with vomiting.

by Fez on Sep 5, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are you going out with friends that have drank (have drunk? drinked?) before?

If so, let them be your tour guide on your first excursion deep into the wonderful world of bllllarrrrrrrrrrgh. Otherwise, make sure that you only drink things you can identify by their names (gin and tonic, jack and coke, jagermeister) and stay far, far away from drinks that don’t have understandable names (sex on the beach, long island iced tea, etc). You want this night to last as long as possible, and if you start drinking Long Islands or the like, you’ll be comatose by 9.

And, eat. Before you go out drinking, go get a Mexican dinner – don’t gorge yourself, but eat yourself full. You’ll thank yourself later.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a fan, but they're fine once you've learned to handle your booze.

But yeah, it’s like having four drinks at once, so it’s best to be avoided on your first night out.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Years ago, my buddy and I would taxi to the Hurricane and drink Hurricanes while playing darts.

We’d play and drink until we couldn’t hit the dartboard any longer.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I ♥ the Hurricane

when I was a janitor, I’d go down there almost half of the nights after I got off work if only to have a bite to eat and wind down.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 5, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rrrright....

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Technically he is not lying because

He did not finish the line with “On my head.”

by Sec 108 on Sep 5, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forever is good

There is no good reason to drink a Long Island ice tea.

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got in trouble when I was a bartender

Because every time someone ordered one of those I would ask why.

by Sec 108 on Sep 5, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are the best bartender ever.

When I saw the Hold Steady at the Crystal Ballroom last month there was a sign behind the bar that said “NO DOUBLES AND NO LONG ISLANDS”. The guys in front of me actually got annoyed that they couldn’t get a Long Island.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Virginia Inn will not serve a Long Island either

when some guy asked why she told him “It makes people stupid and this isn’t that kind of place.”

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

One of the bartenders there is a good friend of mine. That may well have been her saying that.

by Sec 108 on Sep 8, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

And no AMFs

AMF > Long Island, but goodness, they’re so tasty!

by seattlebruin on Sep 5, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you haven't had alcohol before, be careful.

On your 21-run, there will be pressure to drink a LOT. Be smart. Drink lots and lots and LOTS of water. Eat a decent meal beforehand, and don’t be afraid to order bar food during the night; it will help prevent a hangover and can safely prolong drinking. Be aware that it takes an hour or so for the amount of alcohol you’ve consumed to take its full effect.

Stay away from sugar-laden drinks. Don’t mix anything with Red Bull. Makes hangovers far worse, and it can do weird and unexpected things to your system, especially if you haven’t had alcohol before.

As far as what you should drink, that all depends. The Irish Car Bomb is a favorite 21-run drink, and as far as I’m concerned, your 21st birthday is the only time such drinks are acceptable. Also (and this is the only time you’re likely to ever hear me say this) cheap beer is a good way to go. Micros and craft beers are amazing, but they’re definitely an acquired taste, and the generally high alcohol content can sneak up on you pretty quickly. Import pilsners like Stella are always good too, if you can’t deal with Bud. My suggestion: Irish Car Bomb (or the like,) vodka & soda with lime (and since it’s a vodka & soda, get decent vodka,) a shot of bourbon, and beer the rest of the way, drinking at least a pint of water after each drink. Take a little break and maybe get some food before you switch to beer. Be safe and have fun!

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, whatever you eat while drinking should have a fairly high sodium content.

Alcohol depletes your sodium levels. If you replenish them, you’re less likely to get dehydrated.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday, by the way.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

And remember this:

1. Alcohol leads people to think they can drive like Dale Earnhart when they in fact cannot.

2. Alcohol makes ugly people seem more attractive. Try not to wake up next to a female Bert Reynolds in the morning.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, this cannot be overstated

Before this evening starts, you’ll need to do two things:

1. Surrender your car keys, or leave them at home
2. Enter the following number into your cell phone’s address book: 206.622.6500. Yellow Cab.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

oooh, good one

and if you have a girl that you kinda like, but have yet to ask out for whatever reason but would like to:

  1. Take her number out of your cellphone.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or a female Steven Tyler for that matter

WTF IS JOAN RIVERS DOING IN MY BED????

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by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch out for the joke drinks.

“Cement Mixer” comes to mind, only one I can think of.

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by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'm looking forward to this movie

but the fact that the same guy that made Clerks 2 also made Dogma and Jersey Girl makes me nervous when he makes non-Randal and Dante movies.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yuck. Semi-nude Dane Cook bastardizations of iconic John Lennon photographs are precisely the kinds of things the MPAA should be shielding us from

I couldn’t agree more

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just LOOKS like someone with bad breath.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should stick to his own lousy schtick and leave everyone else alone.

THERE’S ONLY ONE OCTOBER!!!!!

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, this is FUNNY.

Link

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

My favorite answer:
yes. i have been to Canada many times and like most places and buildings in the world, the doors do open, lock and some have electronic key cards.
pretty much same as the U.S.A

It does not seem to have and inkling of sarcasm attached.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's fantastic.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I just went out to get a taco

and “”http://www.amazon.com/Red-Hot-Blue-Tribute-Porter/dp/B000008JUM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1220648037&sr=1-1" target="new">Miss Otis Regrets/Just One Of Those Things" just came up on my ipod. I forgot what a fantastic song this is. Decent album overall, but this song is probably the high point.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing like a good taco.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing that Portland Mexican food is missing

is carne seca. Carne asada’s pretty good, but carne seca – man, that’s some good dried meat.

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by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna be stuffing my face on fresh seafood in Cannon Beach by this time tomorrow.

So the type of carne available isn’t that important to me at the moment!

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be north of where this picture was taken, but thank you!

I can’t wait to get there and have some steamed clams washed down with some Celtic Copper Ale.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

U2, Neneh Cherry, Thompson Twins, Annie Lennox, Erasure…

That sounds definitely like something I’d like.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a pretty good album

and it’s covers of old Cole Porter songs, which is an added bonus. The Annie Lenox song is really good, the Neneh Cherry….not so much (but I’m not a huge Neneh Cherry fan, so there’s that). The David Byrne song is also great.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He captured the Comet perfectly!

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by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

I miss the comet that wasn’t a hipster hangout.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend and her friend got in a fight with some hipster doofus at The Comet

He was apparently a regular who was upset that they sat in “their spot.” The dude actually said something to the effect of “this is a locals bar, we don’t like tourists here.” So the lesson is if you live in Greenlake or Ballard, don’t go to The Comet… they don’t like tourists.

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That really disappoints me

as a person who used to HAVE a regular spot at the Comet, next to all of the unemployed/between gigs union plumbers and random homeless dudes that hung out there during the day. The current Comet makes me cry.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This makes me wish I could have seen the Comet in it's glory days.

I’m not going to bother to go see it now.

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the beautiful thing

the Comet then didn’t look a whole lot different than it does now. it was the people that were there that made it fun. Now it’s just another hipster douchebag hangout – because Seattle doesn’t have enough of those.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was afraid this would happen to my bar with all the new condos

but fortunately, I hang out at a crappy bar so it hasn’t changed much.

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love crappy bars.

That’s where I hang out up north. No pretentious BS.

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well depends on your idea of a dive but my favorites

Lock & Keel, People’s Pub, The Smoke Shop, Ye Old Pequliar, Wingmasters (formerly Epps Place), The Viking and though I used to avoid it like crazy a sorta friend bought the T-Bird on 15th and is trying to clean it up. This week in The Stranger under “The Happiest Hour” column they really slammed him. I won’t go to Golden City or The Bit though. Oh and Bad Albert’s is pretty good. So yeah. A few divey places left. Though Ballard Ave gets pretty crazy these days no matter what the venue.

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the People's, but I wouldn't call it a dive.

I’ve been to the Smoke Shop twice and had really bad experiences with the servers both times.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same... People's is awesome, but is fairly upscale

Damn good goulash.

The Sunset is closer to dive bar, but again, but maybe more like 1/2 dive and 1/2 hipster or something.

Now Tacoma….Tacoma has dive bars.

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't call People's upscale though.

I call it “a dive” because it isn’t high falutin like Bel Mar or The Matador. And it’s old school Ballard. I like it because the servers and patrons are laid back. When I was up here 10 or so years ago looking for a place to stay the girl and I were looking at a menu and some guy came out and tells us that they don’t like yuppies in there. First and only time I’ve been called a yuppie.

by nwtrev on Sep 5, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little Red Hen in Greenlake is pretty good.

One of the few horseshoe bars left and they play some great bands in there. Ravenna Alehouse is pretty divey, and the Reservoir in Maple Leaf. Owl and Thistle downtown on Wednesday nights used to be one of my favorite places, but the Vinyl Avengers dropped the gig.

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 5, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ballard of 10 years ago is dead.

I guess we just have different definitions of dive. If everything that’s even a bit less upscale/pretentious as Matador is a dive then, yeah, I guess People’s is a dive.
I think there’s a hell of a lot in between Matador of 2008 and the Rendezvous of 1998.

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Up north = San Francisco

looks at that proper capitalization!

by seattlebruin on Sep 6, 2008 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with being hip?

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant the "cool doesn't advertise" thing.

He thinks he has to show off all the time.

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a lesson he has to be taught by his peers.

My dad tried to impress it upon me, but I had to get my ass kicked before it clicked.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he gets his ass kicked soon.

He’s eighteen, I think he’s about ready for it.

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then he's overdue.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily. I had a pretty huge ego.

It’s amazing how quickly a group of skinheads can deflate such an ego. (I was actually in the right in the situation, but I didn’t handle it very well.)

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So does he until you knock him down a peg.

But it comes right back a day or two later.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

His actual father never did.

I’m hoping he doesn’t end up the same way.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not look forward to this. Considering the asshole I was...

If you don't have anything nice to say, you're likely reading Bakers comments section.

by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's really true.

Jack Endino looks exactly the same now as he did 20 years ago, and there aren’t too many people cooler than Jack Endino.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 5, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

One difference between cool people and hipsters:

Take Endino for instance… He’s a nice guy, not an elitist.

If you don't have anything nice to say, you're likely reading Bakers comments section.

by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I don’t know Endino personally, but that’s the biggest difference to me – cool people are great to sit down and have a beer with, hipsters just want to tell you about the new sneakers they just bought that you can’t find because you don’t go to the right stores.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This comment doesn't surprise me, given that shirt you're wearing.

I bet that bike you ride wasn’t made with locally-sourced fair-trade metals.

by marc w on Sep 5, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The UW is frustrating.

I need to get to a specific school, and yet the website refuses to provide me an address or specific location. Instead it gives me driving directions to parking garages. Apparently no one approaches the university on foot.

So instead I’ll sit here and catch up on the off post and drink cappuccino.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Evans School.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah okay

I believe they’re based in Parrington Hall. If you walk to the west edge of campus, where NE 41st St meets 15th Ave NE (not the overpass, but the next intersection north), you just walk straight into the campus, up the stairs, keep going straight and it’ll be the first building on the left, facing the big roundabout with the flagpole.

Yeah, navigating UW’s website is like walking through the neighborhood streets of Queen Anne at night. You have no idea where to go and there’s not much to point you in the right direction other than a well-placed search.

In terms of which office to go to once there, someone should be able to tell you

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent, thank you.

2.75 hours to find it, dig up information, and find my way back downtown. Seems a lot but yet something tells me I will still wind up hopelessly lost.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

The stairs: if they’re to the left of a parking garage entrance, you’re at the right intersection.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find that particularly funny...

…because one of the best schools of web site usability that I know of usability actually is a part of UW…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 5, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

NFL Broad cast maps are up

Find out what shitty games you get!

http://the506.com/nflmaps/

My area:

Favre at the Lolphins
Tampa at Reggie Bush
Leinart on the bench vs 49ers

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 5, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh thank fucking GOD I get to watch Brett Favre on Sunday.

I have no idea what he’s been up to and can’t wait to catch up.

Seriously, two-thirds of the country has to watch Jets-Dolphins on opening weekend?

by Teej on Sep 5, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, they're really pimping that Jets/Dolphins game

Am I the only one who doesn’t give a shit about it?

by OlSalty on Sep 5, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

@ Reggie Bush?

huh? I thought he plays for the Aints. Fitting, ain’t it?

by seattlebruin on Sep 6, 2008 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone needs tickets for tonight, I have two that are yours if you can figure out a way of letting me know.

I’m shutting this off to go determine my educational future.
I’m not posting my phone number on here.
You can reach me through facebook messages as it will text to my phone, but I can’t link to it since for some reason it won’t load my profile. I’m on the LL group.
If you don’t facebook and you want these tickets, there are multiple people who hang in this thread that can get you my phone number. Just let me know who you are.

There, I’ve done my good deed for the day.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 5, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't remember who I was having this conversation with...

…about the MLS and the fact that they’re in the CONCACAF Champions League now, and how that will be a good measure of how well the MLS is progressing as a competitive league. Ooooooops, not so fast.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh, whoops

I’d say MLS needs to scale back their schedule, but I bet a lot of their payrolls and new venues are banking on ticket sales for every game they’ve got on the slate for the next few years.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not a question of scaling back the schedule, it goes back to attracting better talent

Until they can either attract or develop better talent (hint to MLS: attract), they’ll always be a third-tier league.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 5, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Though being worn out from a long season was apparently also a factor.

by Gomez on Sep 5, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woah crazy NHL 09

comes out on Tuesday. Way too early to be thinking about hockey it seems like.

And the Kings signed a dude from the Oilers, Jarrett Stoll.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 5, 2008 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

This kid is very lucky to have survived this.

If you don't have anything nice to say, you're likely reading Bakers comments section.

by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Hope that's not too big.

If you don't have anything nice to say, you're likely reading Bakers comments section.

by kevin_ess on Sep 5, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all.

That should be bigger, because it’s funny as hell!

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by Thingray on Sep 5, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

atta boy

I want my kids to do that

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by Corco on Sep 5, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to make a comment about the Alice in Wonderland video.

If everything used to make that music came from the movie, I must say that is pretty impressive. It isn’t that creepy if you avoid watching the video itself.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently it's 90% from the movie, which isn't too shabby.

I do find it funny that the guy who made it is nicknamed “Fagottron.” You know he has serious issues.

I also find the oooo’ing flowers quite amusing.

by Wilder. on Sep 5, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that alternating six-beat/two-beat background wasn't from the movie.

Most of the rest was, so yeah, kind of impressive. Still weird, though.

by BrianL on Sep 5, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I root for the Huskies, I'm not a huge booster or anything.

That was the most ridiculous load of horse shit I have seen in forever. I would protest this game of I were Tyrone Willingham.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I am way more pissed about this than I would expect.

I HATE HATE HATE people trying to take the fun element out of sports.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember the whole "there is no floor" thing?

Yeah. That’s doubly true as far as the officiating in the PAC-10 goes.

Chances are there will be absolutely no fallout for this and the officiating crew doesn’t even get a slap on the wrist.

by BrianL on Sep 6, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure why

but most of my friends seem to be shunning Provo for Rexburg.

by BrianL on Sep 6, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are stupid.

Rexburg is a ghost town. People go there and realize very quickly they made the wrong choice. Most kids transfer after their freshman year because it is so lame.

If they don’t want to go to BYU-Provo, they should take a hard look at BYU-Hawaii. But I would recommend just going to UW or another major school if they do not want to go to BYU-Provo. As for me, if I had to do it over again, I would probably go to UW. BYU is so damn cheap, though. And to be in the 8th ranked business school in the nation at $5000 a year cost, you can’t get better education for the price. Well, unless of course you have your entire schooling subsidized. I am not that book smart to qualify for something like that.

by Wilder. on Sep 6, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops, didn't finish my thought.

The problem I have is that UW shouldn’t have gotten close to the goal line. There was a blatant holding call on an earlier play in the final drive that was not called. I forget if it was 3rd or 4th down, but Locker connected with his receiver for a 16-yard completion for the first down.

Karma is a bitch and BYU legitimately blocked a PAT… although I believe UW would have gone for 2 points had they not been penalized.

I grew up a UW fan, but I do go to BYU. Seeing as BYU has the chance to go to a BCS bowl, I am glad they won. Had this been next year, when UW is going to have a great team, I would probably be upset. But I want to see BYU have the opportunity for a BCS bowl and/or National Championship.

by Wilder. on Sep 6, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see where you're coming from, but holding calls are missed all the time.

A missed call is a hell of a lot different than a ridiculous “excessive celebration” penalty, and more than feeling like UW got jobbed, it pisses me off because of this continuing trend of trying to take all of the fun out of sports, especially in college. He’s a 20 year old kid fer crissakes, and he just led a long comeback drive and scored a TD that should have tied up a game in which his team was a huge underdog. Let him celebrate with his teammates. It’s really more the implication than anything.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The excessive celebration call was stupid.

And the holding call I was referring to was a blatant miss call. Most holding penalties go uncalled, but this one was just as ridiculous of a non-call as the excessive celebration call.

But I guess I have no reason to argue about the non-call because BYU won. I do feel bad for Locker, though. He is a stud and this will go down as another learning experience as he leads UW back to glory in 2009 and 2010.

by Wilder. on Sep 6, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

A really bad missed call is still a mistake. Mistakes I can deal with.

This whole “zomg no fun” BS is threatening to take away the emotion from college football, and the emotion is a huge part of what makes college football so great.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 6, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you watch Sportscenter, they show the blatant holding non-call.

It happens on 2nd and 19 with 45 seconds left. No. 77 (BYU) is being held by No. 71 (UW). If that penalty is called, it’s 2nd and 29 with 35 seconds to play. Who knows how it would play out, but that is a big hole to get of.

by Wilder. on Sep 6, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the excessive celebration is a make up call?

Sorry not trying to be dense here, just putting the event together from the comments here, and I’m not finding these eye witness accounts in the press write ups. Also, in college football are they not allowed to asses a penalty on the following kick-off? I think I’ve seen that before… maybe I’m thinking NFL.

"Steee-rike!" cries the umpire, and the westward course of empire flows unchecked. Paul O'Neil in SI.

by dpseadv on Sep 6, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the excessive celebration isn't a make up call. That was flat out stupid.

But when the non-call on the holding penalty happened, I was just as irate when I saw that as people were with the excessive celebration call. Converting on 2nd and 19 was huge, as a penalty should have been assessed to make it 2nd and 29. If it had been correctly called (the back/head referee was looking right at it), this whole excessive celebration debate would not be going on.

by Wilder. on Sep 7, 2008 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Alice In Wonderland video...

…It’s like a song Bjork and Tricky would have done.

Hey, you suck McBain.

by oc on Sep 6, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

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