OTFPOTD: September 30th edition (Free toy with proof of purchase)
In the news today:
- Boating at night is stupid. One dead, nine injured in another late-night boating collision.
- Merv Griffin's company sues Ed McMahon. Heyoo.
- Holy shit: Phoenix lander spots snow falling on Mars.
- Metallica drummer hates the internet, tells children to get off his lawn.
- People are paying for LittleBigPlanet beta keys. I still don't even want to buy a retail copy when it's released.
Other potential discussion topics:
- I haven't seen Ironman. Should I buy a copy on DVD?
- Has anyone played anything on the PS3 that's not named Uncharted: Drake's Fortune or MGS4?
- Why did I purchase a PS3 when it just sits on top of my desk never to be turned on and played with?
- Any Doctor Who fans here?
- Has there been confirmation that Robert is king of the gnomes?
Tags are incoming, you needy bastards.
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How long until there's a snowboard commercial involving Mars now?
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 7:42 AM PDT
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I have a friend with a PS3.
He has Uncharted (which he actually just sold) and Hot Shots Golf. That’s it.
Iron Man wasn’t that great of a movie.
by Phildopip on
Sep 30, 2008 7:44 AM PDT
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I foolishly bought a PS3 thinking that at some undefined point in the future
I’d get to play FFXIII on it.
Then FFXIII when multi-platform (boy the fanboy fallout from that was amusing to watch). Now I have an expensive Blu-Ray player that occasionally plays video games.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 7:46 AM PDT
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Is there any other reason to own a PS3?
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on
Sep 30, 2008 2:24 PM PDT
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Since many people here seem to use internet music suggester-type sites (there must be a name for this)
Perhaps you can answer my question.
Which is the best site:
Pandora
last.fm
slacker
or something else of which I’ve yet to hear?
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 7:48 AM PDT
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I don't use any of them
but I hear Pandora is fantastic.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 7:53 AM PDT
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I use Pandora
I have been happy with it. Be sure to use the ratings to keep it on track though. I know others have complained about its selections, but it yet to pick any song by Coldplay for me.
by Man From Nantucket on
Sep 30, 2008 8:01 AM PDT
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The ratings can screw you up, though.
It seems like if you give it too much feedback, it will create a very specialized playlist for you and not play too much else. But if you keep switching up the stations, it’s pretty nice. Listening to Pandora right now, actually.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on
Sep 30, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
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Yeah pretty much.
I’ve been listening to Testament radio and i get them Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Exodus on infinite loop. Not complaining to bad but theres got to be more thrash out there than that.
by DCMariner on
Sep 30, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
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I have a Coldplay station.
And I keep thumbs-upping music. Maybe THAT’s why everyone complains about getting too much Coldplay. All of my associations have overtaken the real similarities, and perhaps this has flooded the market.
Whoops. Hella sorry dudes…
:-)
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on
Sep 30, 2008 2:27 PM PDT
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The real question is,
suggest some more so I can try and find one that’s not blocked
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:03 AM PDT
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I've been getting my music horizons expanded on KEXP.
Now and then a song blows me away so I note the time and check it out online. This method is probably a complete analog suggestion to your digital world question.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on
Sep 30, 2008 2:45 PM PDT
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Pandora's very cool, but it tends to get repetitive.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
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I'm so sick of my music though that I need something to help.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:22 AM PDT
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The new Ben Folds comes out today
so that might help somewhat. Ben Folds is good. Not that I’m a music expert, understand, I’m just a dude.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
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I like Ben Folds.
But I also have no patience. Therefore, I need something immediately accessible.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
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MP3 download from Amazon isn't immediate enough?
kids these days.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
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If I buy an album, I like tangibility.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
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Gotcha.
Don’t know what your predominant musical style is, but WFMU has many good shows that stream and have all their archives (and playlists) online - Three Chord Monte, Downtown Soulville, and the Glen Jones Radio Programme are three of my faves.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
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My style is pretty much piano rock, but definitely thanks for this.
I have decided I will be performing a scientific experiment. I will create a Ben Folds station on Pandora, Last.fm and Slacker.
I will use one per day and then report the results on Friday. Because I’m sure y’all are interested.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:35 AM PDT
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Be sure you keep track of how many songs into the playlist it takes for Coldplay to show up.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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For the good of LL I will do so.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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I used launchcast before I got a mp3 player
and it only takes for you to admit that you like one song outside your bubble before they start serving up a bunch of freaky weird shit. Be careful of slippery slopes.
9=8
by JI on
Sep 30, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
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This is the main reason I stopped using launchcast.
I like one song by one artist and want to hear that song again, and suddenly it gives me dozens I have to ban.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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It does take a little bit of time for it to cater to your tastes.
I have a ton of ratings (10,500+) so all-in-all it’s pretty agreeable.
by Phildopip on
Sep 30, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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So far on Pandora
It has played two Ben Folds, two Ben Folds Five, and two Guster.
I don’t know if I can stick out this experiment.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
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Ooooh exciting I had not heard it was today
And Free Coffee is on it!
by Fogel on
Sep 30, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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Yeah. Agreed.
I keep switching around the “stations” though and this seems entertaining. Ess’ suggestion of Reindeer Section makes for a pretty darn good station for right now. Until Pandora starts playing the same playlist over and over and over again.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on
Sep 30, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
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But it's not influenced by artist picks, right?
I want manipulation.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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You should definitely see Iron Man
but you could probably get it from Netflix rather than owning it.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 7:55 AM PDT
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Agree, you should definitely see this if you haven't
I think owning it is a pretty good idea, though.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on
Sep 30, 2008 10:28 AM PDT
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Why are you spreading lies about me, you blogging equivalent of Jose Lopez?
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 7:57 AM PDT
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Perhaps because you refuse to blog through a hangover
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 7:58 AM PDT
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Drunk is the new sober.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 7:59 AM PDT
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I entertain the masses with my lackadaisical antics.
You just piss off Geoff Baker.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 7:59 AM PDT
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I love the word lackadaisical.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 7:59 AM PDT
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Baker was on Baseball Tonight the other day arguing that Halladay should win the Cy Young over Cliff Lee.
And he was siting groundballs, strikeouts, and that Cliff Lee has been lucky with his home run rate on fly balls.
by Phildopip on
Sep 30, 2008 8:03 AM PDT
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Geoff Baker says a lot of really stupid things for a pretty smart guy
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:04 AM PDT
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(this being in reference to his blog of course)
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Sep 30, 2008 8:04 AM PDT
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I wonder if he really believes in a lot of the crap he spouts off in his blog.
Part of me thinks he’s only posting that stuff to get a rise out of Dave and Derek.
(…hi Geoff)
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:06 AM PDT
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I entertain the masses with my tags
but I have a tearful confession to make. I’m not deserving of being best tagger. It’s acblue. I’ve been taking tagging enhancing coffee for all my great tags. I should give up my LLemmie.
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
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As though ac doesn't take anything which alters his performance.
Have you seen the hours of his posts?
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:06 AM PDT
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It's OK, at least I got 4/48 and you got moved to first base because everyone thinks you're a lazy blogger
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
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I have a partially not torn labrum
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:10 AM PDT
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You're still a pussy and I'm going to irrationally hate you
because I foolishly advocated trading five young bloggers for you and now I’m trying to hide that fact.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:14 AM PDT
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Not to mention he doesn't answer your stupid questions with stupid answers.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 8:15 AM PDT
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Seattlebruin is not accountable
because he doesn’t allow me to use him as a secret blog insider.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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Wait, so you're the blogging equivalent of Geoff Baker?
That makes you the Mexican Geoff Baker, right?
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
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Bahahahahahahahaha
Yes, I’m Pepe Baker.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
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I'm eagerly awaiting your book calling out the M's blogosphere
ala “White Jays”.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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This seems like it would be a fairly easy book to compile.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
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I also eagerly await Graham's
three word, two sentence response:
“Wrong. Fuck off.”
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
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I want to see Geoff and Graham meet in person.
That would be rather entertaining.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
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It would be even more hilarious if they're both really nice in person
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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Graham is a cuddly panda.
And for the record, it was Robert that said this.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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Aren't pandas half-black and half-white?
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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Do you have a better suggestion?
A care bear, perhaps?
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
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Viva marsupials!
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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So they're the UCLA Koalas, then?
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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D'awwwww.
I want to give Graham a hug.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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Not sure it would be wise to take it this far.
Apparently pandas are territorial.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
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Graham has permission to mark me as his territory.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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It was only a matter of time before the homoeroticism extended to the mods.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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Your own homoeroticism has already extended to Jeff.
I respectfully request that it stop on Matthew and not progress to Graham.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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I've made it abundantly clear
that I will suck up to and verbally fellate all members of the holy triumvirate.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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I think the rest of us should make it abundantly clear
that we don’t really need a play-by-play of said fellation.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
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we can only hope.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 1:04 PM PDT
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Nah that's my creepy quota for the month.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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Of course, tomorrow is a new month.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.
by kevin_ess on
Sep 30, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
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...oh now I get why this is so creepy.
I really should get some sugar into my system before commenting.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
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How could it be perceived as not creepy
by Fogel on
Sep 30, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
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I find the word fag extremely offensive and would appreciate if you did not use it
by Fogel on
Sep 30, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
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I have a friend in Las Vegas whose surname is Fagel
It’s pronounced like ‘bagel’. He’s a cop.
by Gomez on
Sep 30, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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Graham is also like the virgin mary
You see his face in everything
by Robert on
Sep 30, 2008 8:39 AM PDT
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“Thanks to this website, I’ve become acutely aware of my minimum sleep threshold necessary to still be a functional member of society the next day”
- Jeff Sullivan, 9/27/08
I AM CURRENTLY BELOW THIS THRESHOLD
Tea count = 3. Tea Happiness equation for today – H = 1.5*(TC)^1.5 – [C-(10-S)]
H = Happiness
TC = Tea Count
C = Coffee Count
S = Hour of sleep
Currently H = something negative
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:02 AM PDT
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How long did it take you to determine this?
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
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Can't be too far below the threshold if there's advanced math involved.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:06 AM PDT
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If it contains anything other than a plus sign or a minus sign
to me, it’s advanced level math.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:12 AM PDT
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What about greater than signs
IE > Firefox
60,000 employees > 4 employees!!
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Sep 30, 2008 8:13 AM PDT
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Those I can sometimes handle.
especially when it confirms the primacy of a company like Microsoft, with its legions of programmers turning out lean, nimble code that does exactly what it’s supposed to every time.
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Sep 30, 2008 8:15 AM PDT
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I heard that was the greatest operating system in the history of mankind.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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I heard that was the greatest operating system in the history of God.
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:22 AM PDT
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Well, it has to be, doesn't it?
I mean, look at all the money Microsoft has.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:23 AM PDT
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Yes but how do tea, coffee, and hours of sleep relate to one another
by Fogel on
Sep 30, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
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Let's find the rate of change of your happiness!
by Fogel on
Sep 30, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
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Have you taken multi-variable yet?
I’d start by deriving with respect to TC since that is the controlling variable for the most part
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Sep 30, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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I have not because it is not offered at my school
by Fogel on
Sep 30, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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Hmm, I think I need to make this a function of time somehow
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Sep 30, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
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You need two equations to make this work with what I've learned
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Sep 30, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
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Yes, which is why I need a time based equation as well
I’ll have to get back to you
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Sep 30, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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Iono, I made it up
it’s based on facts and stuff!
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So pretty much you're saying you're tired.
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Sep 30, 2008 8:13 AM PDT
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Yes
I was absolutely tripping the first half hour, but now I’m awake and reviewing documents
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Ironman is no Dark Night, but it is fun and definitely worth watching.
Fear the NPE
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Sep 30, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
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Talk about niche: I can't answer any of those questions
So I’ll ask one that bruin sort of touched upon above: In light of Jeff’s reference to minimum sleep threshold, what’s your’s? Mine is about a hair over 5 hours.
by Gomez on
Sep 30, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
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Also, I definitely got more than that the last two nights so no problems there
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Sep 30, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
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Mine's actually about 7 hours
but I can survive on 5 for a day if need be. But if I get 5 one night, the next night I go to sleep at about 8pm.
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Sep 30, 2008 8:22 AM PDT
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So it wasn't you that stole my lawn gnomes and windmills then.
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
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You know, I'm tempted to blame the Mexican Geoff Baker
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Sep 30, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
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SENOR BAKERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sep 30, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
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on a steel horse, he rides?
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My threshold is whatever value of S leads to H > 0
so it’s a problem with many possible solutions.
This is assuming the more standard H = 2*(TC)^2 – [C-(10-S)] equation though.
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Sep 30, 2008 8:21 AM PDT
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It depends.
I can get by with about 3 hours of sleep if it’s just one night. But if it’s a week of less than optimal sleep, I can’t get by with fewer than 6 hours of sleep.
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Sep 30, 2008 8:23 AM PDT
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I've actually found I function best on 6.5-7 hours of sleep.
I can make it through a day on 4-5, but I’ll definitely be crashing early.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:26 AM PDT
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I usually only sleep every other night.
I feel worse if I sleep over 4 hours at a stretch than I do if I sleep 2. I’ve gone to doctors for insomnia, but all sleeping pills do is make me hyper.
2AM bike rides are awesome, though.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
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Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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I used to work at a law firm in DC and we'd often work through the night if there was a trial or a deposition upcoming.
In so doing, I learned the following:
I can function for two days without sleep in between.
I can function for about a week on 3-4 hours of sleep a night.
I can function continuously on 5+ hours.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
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Sep 30, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
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Define functioning.
Does this mean not falling asleep in the middle of the day or does it mean able to move about in a normal fashion?
My answer would be ~5-6 hours. Sometimes I’m tired after 8 or 9 hours so I don’t really know.
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Sep 30, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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Also.
I never go to bed before 11. I’m basically tired from when I get up until about 9 PM. This saddens me.
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Sep 30, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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Able to think clearly (enough) and stay upright
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Sep 30, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
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Ah.
I’d go with 3 or 4 hours. Not consistently. So ~5-6 hours per day.
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Not sure about the Gnome question but I do want to hear more about what drove you to these lengths
Hey Corco
my ex girlfriend dumped me to become a lesbian. Can I get you to exact revenge for me?
by Robert on
Sep 30, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
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Hahaha
How did I miss this subthread the first time around?
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Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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I would give you a phonenumber
But his FB shows no record of ever having one :/
by Robert on
Sep 30, 2008 8:40 AM PDT
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Hidden in the craziness of Felix slam/Felix injury
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Sep 30, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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since that happened in April
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Sep 30, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
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Wait, I thought that was the one in the Felix injury...
But I’m not Robert.
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Which speaking of all of this
Corco has secured a coffee date
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I'm back to rec-ing some weird comments
this is one of them
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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she asked me
I’m just going to assume she’s not photogenic
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
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who?
Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org
by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
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still don't get it
Who is Inga?
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by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
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See my comment below
Inga is the animated welcomer on the site
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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yeah never mind then
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by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
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We have to log in or create an SN to see her profile
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
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oh screw that then
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by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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Somebody create a SN and pick six that shit
by Robert on
Sep 30, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
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It's all you
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by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:55 AM PDT
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I like Generic Pop Group and Sellout Hip-Hop artist a lot
also, I like TV Show With Lots of High-School Drama – when’s it coming back again?
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
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You're in luck.
90210 is getting a new lease on life.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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Since I wasn't old enough to enjoy the original, I'm actually rather excited for this
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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I wish I had TV to watch this.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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Sadly no.
I have yet to discover if Gossip Girl and ANTM are putting their shows on the internet again this year.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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Oh man, I watched it all the time when I was a kid.
I still have an infatuation with Jennie Garth.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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My guilty pleasure...
My former college roommate and I (after we were no longer roommates) would meet at his place for donuts, beer, and 90210. Of course, we pretty much liked to mock the characters the whole time, so…
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on
Sep 30, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
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I hope it never comes back
because TV Show was much better before.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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Everyone says they focus on plot too much now, but I still like it
I have the DVD box set!
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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I was at Costco yesterday.
They had Christmas decorations for sale.
It’s not even October yet.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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When I lived in Hartford
I went to Westfarms Mall over Labor Day weekend and they already had their Christmas stuff up. I haven’t seen any in Portland yet this year, thankfully.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:40 AM PDT
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They've got a great electronics return policy.
Fuck you, Fry’s.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
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The BJ's by me has had the blow-up Christmas decorations since August.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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Wow, this is quite the word combination.
Like yesterday and the backseat not being used until you met your girlfriend…
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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Both are true and non-sexual in nature,
unless you take them the wrong way.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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Fuck 'em.
Fred Meyer, too. I was like “C’mon. September???”
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on
Sep 30, 2008 2:38 PM PDT
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They've been up since Memorial Day.
I caught myself looking at the display, and suddenly wanted to run from the store. It was an embarrassing moment.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on
Sep 30, 2008 2:53 PM PDT
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The stupid stock market is going up.
C’mon, Dow, I want an 8000 close by year end!
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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You people are scary
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by I'm NOT Corco on
Sep 30, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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I have no real "portfolio" to speak of
I have a 401K that I rebalance once a year and forget about. I see no need to panic, because I made reasonable financial decisions and didn’t tie my entire economic future to a bunch of day-traded stocks and an overpriced house in a superstupid market; what’s happening now has needed to happen for several years, and if that means people go broke, so be it; most of those people shouldn’t have been in the market in the first place.
I still maintain that one of the worst things to happen to the American economy was to allow “average people” to invest in the stock market at will.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:48 AM PDT
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"what’s happening now has needed to happen for several years"
Absolutely. At least the housing part.
The stock market is kinda different. I think anyone who can afford to store a percentage of their income in a 401(k) or IRA should be doing so, but through mutual funds or some other balanced investment. Putting everything you’ve saved into just a few stocks is insane.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
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I know this sounds incredibly selfish
but I’m kind of glad this housing crash happened. My parents can finally afford to buy the house they’ve always wanted (and in my mind have always deserved) without having to leave this area.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 9:02 AM PDT
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I'm not sure if this is terrible or really nice
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt though
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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I've felt that way all along.
I wish no ill will on people, but I just can’t afford a $500,000 two-bedroom converted condo and never will be able to. Most everyone else in San Diego can’t either. It’s an inflated market driven up by out-of-town investors, and it creates a weird situation where something like 76 percent of the people in this city can’t afford a median-priced home. So while I feel terrible that people are losing their homes and ruining their credit, it has to happen. It’s a natural market correction.
And if prices plummet even further to the point where those of us who were responsible with our money can finally buy a home, I can’t help but be satisfied. After years of being told that I was an idiot for not buying a home, I’m just kinda laughing now.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
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I so badly wish I had the money to buy a home right now...
Escondido and/or Mira Mesa have never looked so good…
If only I ever had a hope of affording something decent in La Jolla
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
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A friend of mine's trying to sell in Escondido and having no luck.
Seems like a pretty awful time to be selling, but I’m not her father.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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It's a terrible time to sell.
The market is saturated in homes but no one is buying.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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The house across the street from mine has been on the market for almost 8 months now.
D’oh…
by Phildopip on
Sep 30, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
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The house my parents are looking at has been on the market for a year.
And they were the first ones to make an offer on it in that time.
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
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Isn't it nice when your fiscal responsibility finally rewards you?
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
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It's a sad day when "not getting completely hosed" qualifies as a reward,
but yes, I guess it is quite nice to know that I don’t have a bad mortgage right now. I’m just hiding in my apartment, storing money and food and playing Xbox, waiting for the end days.
Has anyone read “The Road” by Cormac McCarthy? I’m pretty sure that will be the state of Earth by the time I’m 30, so I’m getting ready now.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
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Agree
Home prices just went sky high the last few years, and all because of outside investors who circled jerked home prices through the roof, combined with lenders who got too many people to bite off more than they could chew.
What shocked me were all the otherwise intelligent people who insisted there was no bubble, that nothing would burst. Uh… where is all this money coming from? The rules of supply and demand don’t change, and all value derives from the finity of one or the other. You can’t assume something so unnatural would last forever.
I can’t believe how many otherwise intelligent people defended this.
by Gomez on
Sep 30, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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It took a lot of stupid to make this happen.
I’m no financial expert, but since I graduated college and moved here in 2004 and started paying attention, it seemed extremely simple to me:
1. Actual people in our neighborhoods weren’t the ones buying most of these houses.
2. The people who were buying said houses were buying in bulk and renting them to suckers like me.
3. The locals who did manage to buy houses were lacking certain qualifications — like jobs.
4. Wages weren’t rising enough to justify this. Hell, they weren’t even rising period, when adjusted for inflation.
5. Oh, balls.
As has become pretty apparent by now, banks were blinded by easy money and regulators were either oblivious or impotent.
by Teej on
Sep 30, 2008 9:41 AM PDT
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My dad was looking at this market back when he was first looking at homes in 2005.
He gave up a few weeks later, telling my mom that “this market is going to crash and crash hard.”
by BrianL on
Sep 30, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
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This is the first time I've heard/read a person asses the situation like this.
My wife and I had many many conversations touching on most of the points you listed, and a couple not included. Up until about 3-4 months ago everything we read (about the Seattle market at least) was all wine and roses. Experts!
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on
Sep 30, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
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Explain why 'average people' shouldn't invest 'at will'
But avoid politics!
Is it something more than: “People shouldn’t treat the stock market as an up-market dog track where they try and retire at 40 based on day trading and leverage?”
What about institutional investors – should pension plans invest in the stock market at will?
by marc w on
Sep 30, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
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Thing is, actually, much of the current problem had everything to do with wealthy bankers and investors
They played investment chicken with a bunch of time-bomb mortgages.
by Gomez on
Sep 30, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
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Right, none of which says anything one way or the other
about plain vanilla investing. It’s probably a good idea for ‘average people’ or ‘investment banks’ to avoid products that swear they’re risk free even though the ultimate security is laughable mortgages.
by marc w on
Sep 30, 2008 9:39 AM PDT
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Yeah. All investment is a gamble at any level.
Average citizens as a whole did very little trading-wise to cause this… though their role lies in taking the bait on bad mortgages.
by Gomez on
Sep 30, 2008 9:41 AM PDT
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Average people shouldn't invest at will because they don't know what they're doing
Pension planners are trained to understand the ebbs and flows of a market over time. Average people panic when the Dow drops 100 points.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
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If recent TV news programs are at all accurate
the people who are the most freaked out this week are institutional/professional investors. OK yes, the very-close-to-retirement folks are also panicky right now, but I understand that.
Still, I’m just not convinced that average people know dangerously little when it comes to this stuff. The people I worry about are those that have convinced themselves that there’s a system to day trading, or to investing in a few stocks to maximize profits. Most ‘average people’ buy mutual funds, index funds and the like. That’s 10 times better than the pros who yell a lot on TV – the ones who like to make Bold Claims about this or that commodity, stock or market trend.
The point is: don’t be a dumbass and the market is usually fine.
by marc w on
Sep 30, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
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Maybe I'm naive
but couldn’t stock market crashes be avoided if people didn’t sell their stocks rapidly?
by Mariner John on
Sep 30, 2008 3:41 PM PDT
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You're asking people to not be stupid.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Sep 30, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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Yeah, so naivete
I’m no stock expert but I’ve though this since I first heard about the Depression. Seems like common sense to me but I guess it doesn’t work if only one person is doing it.
by Mariner John on
Sep 30, 2008 3:44 PM PDT
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There's a tipping point, too, when not pulling your money out puts you at great risk.
So it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
J.K.L.
by acblue on
Sep 30, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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Well, yeah - not selling your stocks
means accepting a fairly high degree of risk . If it works, benefits are highly dispersed and if it doesn’t work, ha ha, sucks to be you.
Money + uncertainty leads people to behave in non-pareto optimal ways, but I don’t think that’s necessarily stupidity – it’s more like the necessary byproduct of fear.
A ‘smart’ person might reasonably wish to reduce risk as much as possible because, oh, they’re about to retire and don’t care if everything will be all right eventually. I still don’t get people who close their checking account in an FDIC insured bank because the news said “crisis,” but that’s perhaps a different argument.
by marc w on
Sep 30, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
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It's really scary how bad most engineers are at writing
by seattlebruin on
Sep 30, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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Too much literal, not enough interpretive
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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at least with my brother-in-law's writing, anyway.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
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Not as hilarious when its a engineer that thought you how to write
by Robert on
Sep 30, 2008 8:55 AM PDT
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So thanks to whoever recommended the D-Link IP camera last week...
…but I got it home and tried to set it up and it’s not Mac-compatible. Anybody know of a Mac equivalent to the D-Link DCS 920? The D-Link site is almost spectacularly unhelpful.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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Uh, yeah.
I’d check the Linksys ones, they should be OK with macs since they host their own webservers. You have to specify, most people on the internet are still Windows.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on
Sep 30, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
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According to Mac users I know, heres one that works.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AE9QQ4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=shopzilla_rev_412-20&linkCode=asn
Don’t like the brand name, but supposedly it works just fine.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on
Sep 30, 2008 9:44 AM PDT
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Why does pandora need to know my gender?
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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Because girls like girly music, duh
(actually I have no idea)
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by pdb on
Sep 30, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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Music station comparison begins at 10:57am CDT.
With a Ben Folds song.
by NOLAmarinergirl on
Sep 30, 2008 8:59 AM PDT
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