9/29: Open Extra Baseball! Game Thread
I really really really want a one-game playoff.
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It's really not the regular season anymore
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It is as far as data processing is concerned.
I am very tired.
Worth repeating:
General manager John Mozeliak confirmed that Lohse was meeting with team doctors instead of making his start.
The team has scheduled a press conference for Monday afternoon.
Senior baseball writer Joe Strauss has learned that the expected value of the contract is akin to the deal signed by Carlos Silva last offseason. Silva received a four-year, $48-million deal from Seattle. Sources have confirmed that the average annual value is worth better than $10 million.
I can’t believe that this FO is “saber” it has to be a lie.
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Lineups:
Detroit, (Garcia)
1. C Granderson, CF
2. G Sheffield, DH
3. M Ordonez, RF
4. M Cabrera, 1B
5. M Thames, LF
6. R Raburn, 2B
7. B Inge, 3B
8. D Ryan, C
9. R Santiago, SS
Chicago (Floyd)
1. O Cabrera, SS
2. D Wise, LF
3. J Dye, RF
4. J Thome, DH
5. P Konerko, 1B
6. K Griffey Jr., CF
7. A Ramirez, 2B
8. A Pierzynski, C
9. J Uribe, 3B
I think the Tigers want this one more.
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They never did before.
You should be fine.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Why is there a game today? This isn't a one-game playoff!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 29, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply actions
Makeup game that got rained out.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Ahhhh.
I was wondering why it wasn’t the Twins against the Sox.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially with Ozzie running the show.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm man enough to say I've been cockpunched by a jockey.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
They would probably put everyone on a plane to MIN or TOR,
and play the game the same day.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Chicago has HF in the event of a one game playoff
SO it is possible the fly Twins into Chicago for a possible DH, but doubtful because a one game playoff would sell out.
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I really want to see Junior somehow fuck their season over today.
Preferably with a severe lack of range.
I want the Twins to win the division...
…so I pray the Tigers kill the Sox.
Agreed
Go Tigers
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Yes!
Someone actually agrees with me on this one. Excellent.
by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoo hoo
Regressive Tax
Labor Economics is awesome!!!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Why?
I mean, heck, for the first time in history, someone ACTUALLY stole first base!
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Sep 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, so I just remembered why I want the White Sox to fail
“He gawn”
ugh
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*Actually would rather see the Sox win than see Freddy do well
Make up your damn mind.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
I'm happy he was trade because
“Wizard of OC” is the worst nickname of all time
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part is how it required a little clever to be that bad
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It confused me for years because
O.C. doesn’t exactly rhyme with oz
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Gavin Floyd
Backtrack Player of the Year Candidate 2009
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Needs more shoes. Stat.
If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.
by kevin_ess on Sep 29, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you had tickets to this, and then it started to rain
why would you leave? You’ve already committed your day to the game. Wait it out.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be surprised if it was close to being sold out in the first place.
But Jesus, if the Cubs draw well the White Sox should at be able to have people in the upper deck for what is absically a playoff game— in fact the delayed start time should me more walk ups.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
US Cellular doesn't have real baseball fans.
It is disgustingly bad. Safeco has more knowledgable fans.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It's pretty god awful.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, but how many team actually have a "good" fanbase?
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Unsuccessful Ones
having unsuccessful teams breeds better fans then good teams
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
But the Mariners
But the Yankees
But the Caridnals
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
take that Jeter!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
If I were a GM I swear I'd collect players like this
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
he’s had competent years with the bat and last time he played full time I believe he ranked 1st in defense at 3rd base.
And he makes 6 million dollars next year
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Career OPS+ is 84, worse than the '08 Mariners
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but
for that three year stretch he was league average with a bat and the rangiest 3rd basemen in the game not named Feliz. (admittedly he has always been error prone) that has value.
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
I'm sure his hitting will only improve at the age of 32 after two off years.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
No
but their farm system is bare of position players, it’s not like he’s blocking anyone
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
So my tv gives me a 4:3 feed and mlbtv gives me a 16:9 feed
…switching over
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm watching both the mvbtv feed and the tv feed for the fun of it.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
it would be awesome
if one delayed the other by a couple seconds so you could have instant replay
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
nay sir
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
People with satellite dishes have WGN
Well…at least my parents do and they have Dish Network.
by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
People that aren't me don't count.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is pretty much the only time I've ever cared about having WGN.
But $15 a month for limited basic is pretty good.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's a ripoff considering You get two channels worth watching
WGN and Vs. and you’re not even supposed to get Vs. as it comes in fuzzy)
It boils down to $150 a year for decent recpetion
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't get anything but the broadcast channels either.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I pay $120 for digital cable, internet and phone.
Not too bad, although I have no need for digital phone.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I was shock when I was in Bellingham
and couldn’t find it
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN2 is carrying the game
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, look at that.
Has it been on the whole time?
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Go White Soxs! One game playoffs are awesome!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Yes they are
Especially when the TIGERS win! Wooooo
by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So Miguel Cabrera went and had a nice season, it seems.
I kinda forgot about him.
the other angels fan
Is the National League really that bad
or did the AL stars just have off years?
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
dammit
my internet just started acting up
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
aw
that pitch looked good to me
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
his production
is remarkably similar to Jose Lopez
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
The gameday picture had that well into the gap
I had to figure it wasn’t Junior messing it up.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
all tied up!!!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
1st and 3rd
0 outs
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
I would disagree as someone appears to have given him a major league job.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's refering
to his BABIP with a 23.5% LD rate
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
This at bat causes me to recall the "head regular" at VEB
emphatically stating his cause that Granderson was a bad ballplayer because he strikes out too much, and is bad against lefties.
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You think a better blog would have more clarity.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Could mean
“than VEB”
Which would be quite a damning statement
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So this blog is better because the author's comments are multi layered and cause the reader to look within one's self?
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the depth that really puts this place over the top
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see BCB try to be that daring
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
your tv must be way ahead of mlb.tv
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
I hope he gets stuck on #499
and no one offers him a job
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
A Rays/ Twins series
would have a good chance at being baseball’s last all indoor playoff series
/Stark
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He bobbled, and then threw the ball away
basically a three base mistake
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He's pulling an Ibanez, but better.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Not even comparable
not even the same hemisphere
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
In terms of refusal to decline, though?
Although, wow, you’re right.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point I wouldn't be surpirsed
if he posted a .290 OBP next year, missed most of 2010, and won the MVP in 2011.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have bet anything he was done after 2004.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
His 2006 was holy balls redonk.
I could never leave Stat Corner and be perfectly fine with that.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
SP with xIP > 10
John Van Benschoten PIT -0.19884417 SP Dontrelle Willis DET -0.18126544 SP Gio Gonzalez OAK -0.14908845 SP Jason Jennings TEX -0.14070745 SP Doug Mathis TEX -0.13822112 SP Matt Palmer SFN -0.13190041 SP Jimmy Barthmaier PIT -0.13151345 SP Steve Trachsel BAL -0.12927873 SP Tommy Hunter TEX -0.12911962 SP Dan Meyer OAK -0.11246834 SP Daryl Thompson CIN -0.10885753 SP Matt Morris PIT -0.10693944 SP Nick Adenhart ANA -0.10570795 SP Chuck James ATL -0.10316391 SP Homer Bailey CIN -0.10281862 SP Wade LeBlanc SDN -0.10002870 SP Miguel Batista SEA -0.09875639 SP Luis Mendoza TEX -0.09820204 SP Adam Loewen BAL -0.09803511 SP Dennis Sarfate BAL -0.09760531 SP
Poor Justin Verlander
surrounded by incompetants
He'w welcome to come over here and deal with that.
If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.
It's like everybody forgot how they landed Lohse in the first place
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
How does David Pinto make a living doing what he does?
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Whore links?
I’m not sure, but apparently you should be a lot more profitable than you are.
"This ballgame is tied at twooooooooooooo - YES!"
I no longer want a one-game playoff. I want Hawk to die tonight.
ESPN2 has Steve Phillips
but they also have HD
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
As they should
I imagine Leyland said something along the lines of “this is our playoffs” before the game. Like everyone does.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I would if I were him
because it’s the (pardon me) RIght Thing To Do
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Lohse will receive a $1.25 million signing bonus, $7,125,000 in 2009, $8,875,000 in 2010 and $11,875,000 in each of the final two seasons. He also gets a full no-trade clause.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This will be fun when Ankiel and Ludwick are in line for raises
and Pujols hits free angency
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
When does Pujols hit free agency?
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least it's just one year.
You could backload Pujols and be okay. Still insane.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ankiel is a free agent in 2010
They need to lock him up at some point
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That's almost as bad as the Silva contract.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
On a plus note for the Cardinals
Lohse probably can’t pitch as bad as Silva did this year
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
With that contract though, how likely is it to be relevant?
It’s still stupid of course, but it’s not 48 million.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Lohse is better now,
but off the top of my head I think
Silva before 2008 > Lohse before 2009
by a touch
Depends on how you weigh the NTC but I think it's a wee bit better
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Chruchill's source must be liar
or Mo has no power what so ever
one of the two
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I'm being quite rational in my state.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes I wish we could have our knowledge undone
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 29, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If it weren't for the good hitting and spectacular outfield defense
Kyle Loshe would have never looked superficially pretty enough to propose this contract to.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Now we are only probably
the worst run team in baseball
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
If this is any thing like the Tiger playoff games I am used too
Seay will follow this up by throwing the next comebacker into the stands
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Pravada
"The game plan as stated by club officials is to finalize a short list this week, begin the interview process the following week and have the position filled prior to or soon after the World Series. In almost all cases, Major League Baseball does not allow clubs to make major announcements during the Fall Classic. "
I'm all for Equal Opportunity, but this is pushing it.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.
A one game playoff is far far better than no baseball
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not at the risk of more White Sox.
We’ve been over this tough.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You underestimate how much I hate the White Sox.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
GREAT interview with him in Sporting News a couple issues back.
I swear he’s mentally retarded.
Screw you, Mariners. I'm back in football's loving arms.
*though
That actually changes the tone and meaning quite a bit.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
BALLS
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
That guy is not typing real words on that laptop in the Angels commercial
In fact, I’m pretty sure he’s just tapping the h key over and over
54!
fuck you hawk!!!!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Well
1) He sucks
2) He is a year removed from not sucking
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a 1 yr deal.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
According to RZR he's not very good.
Yuniesque even.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
How's his defense, though?
His offense wasn’t that terrible.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
If I call correctly, it is mediocre.
Even if his BABIP regresses some, his hitting still isn’t that could, some of his power/walks/speed would need to return to make him a bargain pickup
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If he was cheap enough and we were able to dump Yuni, I'd be okay with it I think.
He’s a better hitter than Yuni and I don’t care what RZR says, I’m sure he’s better defensively too.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
But since that's not happening, I think he'd be a decent stopgap for someone else who might compete.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish defensive value was as easy to predict and quantify as offensive value.
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Kennedy/ P / Everett
batting 7, 8, 9, would make for some short games
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm. Yeah, maybe not.
Renteria might actually be a good way to go.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you want to go long term though?
With the impending Ludwick, Ankiel and Pujols situations?
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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a fantastic player
give him three years.
Plus with the new park they will probably have a bunch of revenue to blow… I have to admit I’m not nearly as familiar with the Cardinals budget structure as I am the Mariners.
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by JI on Sep 29, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions

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