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Detroit Tigers @ Chicago White Sox

09/29/08 11:05 AM PDT

Detroit Tigers Chicago White Sox
Curtis Granderson - CF Orlando Cabrera - SS
Gary Sheffield - DH Dewayne Wise - LF
Magglio Ordonez - RF Jermaine Dye - RF
Miguel Cabrera - 1B Jim Thome - DH
Marcus Thames - LF Paul Konerko - 1B
Ryan Raburn - 2B Ken Griffey Jr. - "CF"
Brandon Inge - 3B Alexei Ramirez - 2B
Dusty Ryan - C AJ Pierzynski - C
Ramon Santiago - SS Juan Uribe - 3B
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Gavin Floyd 16-8 32 32 1 0 0 0 200.1 185 105 87 30 68 137 3.91 1.26

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Freddy Garcia 1-1 2 2 0 0 0 0 10.0 9 6 5 3 3 9 4.50 1.20

I really really really want a one-game playoff.

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Wheeeeeee!

That’s the spirit!

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Worth repeating:
General manager John Mozeliak confirmed that Lohse was meeting with team doctors instead of making his start.

The team has scheduled a press conference for Monday afternoon.

Senior baseball writer Joe Strauss has learned that the expected value of the contract is akin to the deal signed by Carlos Silva last offseason. Silva received a four-year, $48-million deal from Seattle. Sources have confirmed that the average annual value is worth better than $10 million.

I can’t believe that this FO is “saber” it has to be a lie.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineups:

Detroit, (Garcia)

1. C Granderson, CF
2. G Sheffield, DH
3. M Ordonez, RF
4. M Cabrera, 1B
5. M Thames, LF
6. R Raburn, 2B
7. B Inge, 3B
8. D Ryan, C
9. R Santiago, SS

Chicago (Floyd)

1. O Cabrera, SS
2. D Wise, LF
3. J Dye, RF
4. J Thome, DH
5. P Konerko, 1B
6. K Griffey Jr., CF
7. A Ramirez, 2B
8. A Pierzynski, C
9. J Uribe, 3B

I think the Tigers want this one more.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Sox site says it's on WGN

and of course it’ll be on mlbtv

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They never did before.

You should be fine.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 29, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makeup game that got rained out.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 29, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh.

I was wondering why it wasn’t the Twins against the Sox.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by Taylor H on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Especially with Ozzie running the show.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm man enough to say I've been cockpunched by a jockey.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 29, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vidoe please.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 29, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or video. Either one.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 29, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They would probably put everyone on a plane to MIN or TOR,

and play the game the same day.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 29, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago has HF in the event of a one game playoff

SO it is possible the fly Twins into Chicago for a possible DH, but doubtful because a one game playoff would sell out.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess Sheffield is one away from 500

and I haven’t heard a peep about it form the press.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Go Tigers

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Someone actually agrees with me on this one. Excellent.

by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoo hoo

Regressive Tax
Labor Economics is awesome!!!!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Tigers!

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 29, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Sox!!

Bring back José Cruz Jr!

by darmok on Sep 29, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's go either one!

I prefer the Sox, but I’m not going to get in an upheaval about it.

by royalcurve on Sep 29, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also,

I will forever hate the White Sox for the 2005 ALCS.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 29, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

I mean, heck, for the first time in history, someone ACTUALLY stole first base!

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-0!!

Bring back José Cruz Jr!

by darmok on Sep 29, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gavin Floyd

Backtrack Player of the Year Candidate 2009

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Needs more shoes. Stat.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 29, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you had tickets to this, and then it started to rain

why would you leave? You’ve already committed your day to the game. Wait it out.

by Jeff on Sep 29, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be surprised if it was close to being sold out in the first place.

But Jesus, if the Cubs draw well the White Sox should at be able to have people in the upper deck for what is absically a playoff game— in fact the delayed start time should me more walk ups.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

US Cellular doesn't have real baseball fans.

It is disgustingly bad. Safeco has more knowledgable fans.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's pretty god awful.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unsuccessful Ones

having unsuccessful teams breeds better fans then good teams

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the Mariners

But the Yankees
But the Caridnals

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but Inge blows at hitting

he shouldn’t start

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh

he’s had competent years with the bat and last time he played full time I believe he ranked 1st in defense at 3rd base.

And he makes 6 million dollars next year

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

for that three year stretch he was league average with a bat and the rangiest 3rd basemen in the game not named Feliz. (admittedly he has always been error prone) that has value.

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

but their farm system is bare of position players, it’s not like he’s blocking anyone

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would be awesome

if one delayed the other by a couple seconds so you could have instant replay

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nay sir

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

People with satellite dishes have WGN

Well…at least my parents do and they have Dish Network.

by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN2 is carrying the game

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 29, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, look at that.

Has it been on the whole time?

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so

wasn’t listed

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes they are

Especially when the TIGERS win! Wooooo

by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit

my internet just started acting up

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

aw

that pitch looked good to me

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

his production

is remarkably similar to Jose Lopez

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

all tied up!!!!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

1st and 3rd

0 outs

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 3:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This at bat causes me to recall the "head regular" at VEB

emphatically stating his cause that Granderson was a bad ballplayer because he strikes out too much, and is bad against lefties.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

or do you mean

“…than mine”

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could mean

“than VEB”

Which would be quite a damning statement

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on

They’ve got to score here.

by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well he got out alive.

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

your tv must be way ahead of mlb.tv

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Rays/ Twins series

would have a good chance at being baseball’s last all indoor playoff series

/Stark

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not even comparable

not even the same hemisphere

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In terms of refusal to decline, though?

Although, wow, you’re right.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point I wouldn't be surpirsed

if he posted a .290 OBP next year, missed most of 2010, and won the MVP in 2011.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His 2006 was holy balls redonk.

I could never leave Stat Corner and be perfectly fine with that.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SP with xIP > 10 
John Van Benschoten  		PIT  	-0.19884417  	SP
Dontrelle Willis 		DET 	-0.18126544 	SP
Gio 	Gonzalez 		OAK 	-0.14908845 	SP
Jason 	Jennings 		TEX 	-0.14070745 	SP
Doug 	Mathis 			TEX 	-0.13822112 	SP
Matt 	Palmer 			SFN 	-0.13190041 	SP
Jimmy 	Barthmaier 		PIT 	-0.13151345 	SP
Steve 	Trachsel 		BAL 	-0.12927873 	SP
Tommy 	Hunter 			TEX 	-0.12911962 	SP
Dan 	Meyer 			OAK 	-0.11246834 	SP
Daryl 	Thompson 		CIN 	-0.10885753 	SP
Matt 	Morris 			PIT 	-0.10693944 	SP
Nick 	Adenhart 		ANA 	-0.10570795 	SP
Chuck 	James 			ATL 	-0.10316391 	SP
Homer 	Bailey 			CIN 	-0.10281862 	SP
Wade 	LeBlanc 		SDN 	-0.10002870 	SP
Miguel Batista 		SEA 	-0.09875639 	SP
Luis 	Mendoza 		TEX 	-0.09820204 	SP
Adam 	Loewen 			BAL 	-0.09803511 	SP
Dennis Sarfate 		BAL 	-0.09760531 	SP

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Justin Verlander

surrounded by incompetants

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'w welcome to come over here and deal with that.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 29, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*he's

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 29, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHOA!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"This ballgame is tied at twooooooooooooo - YES!"

I no longer want a one-game playoff. I want Hawk to die tonight.

by Jeff on Sep 29, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN2 has Steve Phillips

but they also have HD

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As they should

I imagine Leyland said something along the lines of “this is our playoffs” before the game. Like everyone does.

by Jeff on Sep 29, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would if I were him

because it’s the (pardon me) RIght Thing To Do

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lohse will receive a $1.25 million signing bonus, $7,125,000 in 2009, $8,875,000 in 2010 and $11,875,000 in each of the final two seasons. He also gets a full no-trade clause.

by Jeff on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a plus note for the Cardinals

Lohse probably can’t pitch as bad as Silva did this year

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we are only probably

the worst run team in baseball

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this is any thing like the Tiger playoff games I am used too

Seay will follow this up by throwing the next comebacker into the stands

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pravada
"The game plan as stated by club officials is to finalize a short list this week, begin the interview process the following week and have the position filled prior to or soon after the World Series. In almost all cases, Major League Baseball does not allow clubs to make major announcements during the Fall Classic. "

by Robert on Sep 29, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

!!!

!!!

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or NVM!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ALEXI RAMIREZ!

OK, that was so worth it.

by Garces on Sep 29, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh shit.

Well that blows.

by l0nepinemall on Sep 29, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BALLS

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That sounds

alot sexier than I hope you intended.

by AZSEAfan on Sep 29, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha...

Not exactly what i meant…

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy is not typing real words on that laptop in the Angels commercial

In fact, I’m pretty sure he’s just tapping the h key over and over

54!

by joof on Sep 29, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck you hawk!!!!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 29, 2008 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

1) He sucks
2) He is a year removed from not sucking

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a 1 yr deal.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's his defense, though?

His offense wasn’t that terrible.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I call correctly, it is mediocre.

Even if his BABIP regresses some, his hitting still isn’t that could, some of his power/walks/speed would need to return to make him a bargain pickup

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was cheap enough and we were able to dump Yuni, I'd be okay with it I think.

He’s a better hitter than Yuni and I don’t care what RZR says, I’m sure he’s better defensively too.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy/ P / Everett

batting 7, 8, 9, would make for some short games

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. Yeah, maybe not.

Renteria might actually be a good way to go.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you want to go long term though?

With the impending Ludwick, Ankiel and Pujols situations?

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a fantastic player

give him three years.

Plus with the new park they will probably have a bunch of revenue to blow… I have to admit I’m not nearly as familiar with the Cardinals budget structure as I am the Mariners.

9=8

by JI on Sep 29, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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