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This has been, by far, the most physically and emotionally taxing season of my five-year blogging career. And as much as I'd like to blame it on the team being embarrassingly pathetic, the fact of the matter is that it's not that simple. Sure, the sucking contributed to the burden, but after landing a new job in March, for the first time I had to try and balance a full-time day job with what I consider to be a full-time night job, and take my word for it - it's not that easy. It's draining, and I can't tell you how many times I came home thinking to myself "the last thing I want to do right now is write about baseball." It was a challenge. It was a challenge that on many occasions I just didn't feel like facing.

I hold my writing and this website to a high standard. I always liked the way this place used to be, and I always liked being able to churn out massive daily recaps. When I realized I no longer had the time nor the energy to do that anymore, I got frustrated with myself. I started to feel like the content was slipping, that I wasn't meeting my own standards. On several nights I went to sleep wondering why I even bothered anymore. Why I still tried. I make fun of veterans all the time for hanging on when their talent has declined, and in my mind I felt like a hypocrite for basically doing that very thing. So I thought about quitting. Pretty often, in fact.

Then I'd try to picture my life without this place. And I never could. For better or worse, Lookout Landing has kind of become a major part of my identity, and I came to realize that this isn't the sort of thing that you just up and stop doing one day. LL means a lot of things to a lot of people, but it also means a lot of things to me, and every time I'd lay in bed thinking I can't do this anymore, I'd convince myself that it's worth the effort. Every time.

I don't know what my life would look like without LL, and I'm in no hurry to find out. I just need to get over the guilt I feel when I don't post enough content after a game. The guilt I feel when I take a night off to see a show, or watch the Padres, or hang out with my girlfriend, or just do nothing. It's getting better. It is getting better. I remember sitting in a bar with Teej not too long ago. At one point we started talking about the site, and he told me not to feel bad about slowing down, because he still enjoyed reading, and I was just putting too much pressure on myself. That was important. That conversation went a long way towards alleviating the guilt I felt for what I perceived to be slacking off. But I dunno. We were also drinking a lot.

I have slowed down. I've had to slow down. Thanks to this website, I've become acutely aware of my minimum sleep threshold necessary to still be a functional member of society the next day, and I just don't have enough time to put as much effort into this place as I used to. That's why I do less commenting during the day and less writing at night. It's why I switched from the recap format to the recent post-about-whatever-the-hell-you-feel-like format. Recaps were great, and they were my favorite part of the website, but they were a chore, and it got to the point at which I just couldn't do it anymore. Some sort of change was badly needed. Something to relieve the strain.

I can't thank you guys enough for embracing what this website has become. I was nervous about how the community would respond once it became clear that I could no longer do what I did,  but day after day you guys keep coming back to a website devoted to the most humbling and humiliating organization in sports, and that means a lot to me. It takes away a lot of that pressure, and it takes away a lot of that guilt. I don't like that I can't provide as much as I used to, but I am eternally thankful that, despite that, so many people still find this place worth reading. More than that, even; I am eternally thankful that so many people still find this place worth belonging to. Maybe it was presumptuous and arrogant of me to think that a change in content could really make that much of a difference, because the truth of the matter is that LL has grown into something so much greater than what goes on the front page. This is a community in every sense of the word. People hang out here. People make friends here. It's like a social networking site without the suck. Whenever I think about that, it just blows my mind.

I don't know how a little blog named after a nobody third baseman could turn into something so huge, but here we are, and I wouldn't trade it for the world. There are days that I hate it, but there are days that I hate my own mother, so I guess all I can really say is thank you, again, for making this place what it is. For the fifth straight year, thank you for hanging out. LL isn't LL without its community, and while the website has its little flaws, there is no other site on the Internets to which I'd rather belong. I love this place. Even when I don't.

Here's to a great October and the most important offseason this team has ever faced. Don't go anywhere. The fun is only just beginning.

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Biggest Contribution: Roy Corcoran, +22.1%
Biggest Suckfest: Rob Johnson, -15.1%
Most Important AB: Betancourt triple, +25.1%
Most Important Pitch: Suzuki double, -16.4%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +42.4%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -10.1%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +17.7%
(What is this chart?)

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2008 is OVER! Hopefully we get a successful off season!

And then thank you Jeff and everybody else who made LL possible.

by Slurvey on Sep 28, 2008 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank You Jeff

Without you this place wouldn’t be possible. This blog may have a large community but it’s YOUR large community. You fostered it. It would not be the same without you. You are the glue that binds it together. Thank you for all of your efforts, thank you for not giving up, and thank you for allowing such a fantastic place to come to be.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 6:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You have no idea

how much so many people love this site and appreciate all of the effort you put into this site.

Thank you very much for all of the time that you spend creating content and I look forward to your insight as this off season progresses.

by cjdseattle on Sep 28, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

cont'd

how much your effort is appreciated. I’m sure I speak for hundreds (thousands?) who might never comment but are loyal readers.

I look forward to your insight over this upcoming offseason.

by cjdseattle on Sep 28, 2008 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must thank you, Jeff

Despite the fact that this season went into the hole several months back you’re still able to pump out quality content and find the strength not to throw in the towel. It takes a strong will to gut it out with this team, let alone finding stuff to write about.

This site is one of my favorites and I don’t see myself letting up any time soon. This place is awesome.

by ThundaPC on Sep 28, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I distinctly remember the last day of last season as well

It was a lot like this.. the nostalgia of a long-ass season (even though it feels like it flew by to me.. Am I alone in that?) coming in hard. From the switch over to SBN 2.0, to off-topic fanpost of the day, to crazy GTE stemming from Carlos Beltran and Felix to the horrible trade deadline lack-of-dealing. It has definitely been quite an interesting season to say the least.

Jeff – you rock, and you are totally right, LL is not LL without the LL community – one that I would define as as tight-knit as a group of online people could get.

Hey – at least we have a possible franchise-changing offseason coming up so that we can all hang around rather than have a massive offseason dropoff.

LL FTW!

by seattlesundevil on Sep 28, 2008 6:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There is no way I would have made it through the season without you.

Thank you for putting in those late nights and churning out what always ends up being entertaining content. You’ve made me laugh and enjoy the worst sports train wreck I’ve ever had to suffer through, and you’ve educated me along the way. Don’t ever feel bad about having you life take prescient over your work. We all understand, and we all know that while you’ve got a gift, you’re human and you need breaks (especially in a season as terrible as this).

So, in short, thank you for making my favorite sport more fun. I had a great time being able to take part in this site this year.

by Smegmalicious on Sep 28, 2008 6:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking for myself,

I think your waning interest in writing about the M’s matched my waning interest in reading about them. There have been times where I just feel it best for my sanity to step back and avoid this team for a few days and all I’m doing is reading content, not producing. I think everyone here appreciates and respects the need to step away. I know I respect your baseball views and anything you want to share is more than welcome, and I hope the additions of Matthew and Graham as contributors has been as good for you as it has been for us readers.

 I’m personally looking forward to the playoffs. I feel like I just don’t have that many friends overly interested in baseball, so being able to follow the games here with other passionate fans is great. It’s just like kicking back with your boys. In many ways, it’s my favorite time of year around here whether the M’s are involved or not. The pressure from the season is gone (for us atleast) and we can just enjoy the game.

by DCMariner on Sep 28, 2008 6:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Jeff

Both for the effort and for sticking out the most hopeless season since 1988.

What ever happened with the simulation competition you were running for the 1986 season? Did you at least beat 61-101?

by G_ on Sep 28, 2008 6:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

64-98

The Yankees wound up winning the Series over St. Louis.

by Jeff on Sep 28, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 2008 M's really could have used Ken Phelps

Congrats on besting McLaren/Riggleman. You are, however, Dick Williams’ bitch.

by G_ on Sep 28, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 1993, Jim Riggleman and the San Diego Padres finished with a 61-101 record.

Interesting?

"I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul. I plan to face him with the zeal of a challenger."
-Ichiro on Dice-K

by seatownsports on Sep 28, 2008 6:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's hoping the M's figure things out in the offseason.

And just so you know Jeff, it doesn’t matter what you write about, I always find it interesting. Thanks for putting so much work into this.

*Visiting Angels fan* Never give up, never surrender!

by TheOptimist on Sep 28, 2008 6:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On a smaller scale I know exactly what you mean.

As I’ve told you before, you are very good at what you do. I have no reason to follow the M’s, yet I read this site daily due to the content. Sites like this are why SBN needs to find a way to pay their writers, especially the really good ones.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hear, hear!

They need to lock you guys down before you flee to a more lucrative destination.

by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Jeff

Even if you are a Senators fan.

by Slica on Sep 28, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I said that? I didn't realize I was that drunk.

What I meant to say was: You really need to write more, and don’t waste your life on girls, work and sleep.

In all seriousness, though, you rock. The amount of work you put into LL is staggering. The longer you keep coming to the conclusion that this site is worth your time, the better we all are for it. But if you don’t take some time away here and there, you’re going to go insane. You’ve got some talented fellow authors and vigilant commenters who can keep the site from going to shit if you take a night or two off. We’re pretty good at self-policing.

So to Jeff, as well as the other mods and the awesome people around here, thanks for all the work and entertainment during this monstrosity of a season.

by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 6:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Jeff.

In just one season here, my knowledge about this silly game that I love so very much has increased tenfold. I mean this in all seriousness, but I look at the game now in a way I never did prior to this season. Sure, this was the year out of baseball hell, but it was so incredibly enlightening for me.

So thank you, Jeff, for all the hard work you put into this site. It’s because of you that people like me can find the truth behind all of the uncertainties and intangibles within this game. I hope LL and its community is a place you can continue to take pride in.

And thank you, Matthew and Graham, for contributing to this wonderful place. Sometimes I don’t always understand what your big fancy words and pretty charts mean, but I’m slowly coming around. Best of luck with your StatCorner venture.

Hell, thank you to everyone here at LL. Thanks for treating me nicely when I showed up back in February to ask a few questions about defensive analysis and metrics. Even more than that, thank you for allowing me to be a part of this wonderful community. It’s been a long time since I was part of a place like this, where both the moderators and the users encourage eachother to adhere to a high standard of conduct.

Here’s to an exciting off-season. Take some time off and relax for a bit, Jeff. You’ve earned it.

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also Jeff

do you have a Paypal account and how much is it going to cost me to buy you a case of your favorite alcoholic beverage?

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd forgotten about that

Done. Jeff, thanks for not quitting. Share my donation with Matthew and Graham as you see fit

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Sep 28, 2008 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And done.

Thanks for all the hard work, gentlemen.

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for doing what you do.

The fact that two Angels fans are regulars in a Mariners community speaks to what you’ve created and fostered here at Lookout Landing.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 28, 2008 7:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We all appreciate the time you put into running this site.

However…

The guilt I feel when I take a night off to see a show, or watch the Padres, or hang out with my girlfriend, or just do nothing.

If you feel guilty for doing normal things in life… I know we wouldn’t want to hold from doing those things. This is a wonderful community you have built. If you want to take some of the workload off, you might want to hold open tryouts for a successor. Then you can have a protégé prepared for when you can’t do this anymore. It’s at least something you need to start considering because most of us would self-destruct if one day this page didn’t load.

Good riddance to 2008. Strasburg ho!

by Wilder. on Sep 28, 2008 7:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the worst idea I've ever heard.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd hope so.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Corco!)

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...
Now all of the potential suggestions can only be better.

Or equal.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(ASUBoyd!)

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, fine.

You or Coach could possibly be better than some people.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think I'd be a very good moderator

providing you concurrently banned me from posting

I don’t like this idea

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have made one hell of a site.

I’ve commented on, moderated, and owned on numerous boards in my life, from IRCs to forums to random comments sections on the crappiest websites. I know from experience what makes a community work: content that challenges people while being entertaining, and moderation that sets firm limits, but doesn’t act above the crowd. This place has both in spades, and is a testament to your ability to lead.

There are problems ahead, and places this site will take you that you won’t expect. I’m sure you’ve seen some of these things coming. I’ve seen the steps you’ve publicly taken, and it shows a real sense of where you want this place to go. This is an important thing for your future sanity and this site’s future existence; as more people find this and move in, a set direction allows the community to police itself.

Don’t be afraid of coming on too strong with guidelines, and let the reactions from the regulars guide your hand. One thing I would recommend is to promote some of the more senior these regulars to positions administering the threads. You have built around you a set of baseball minds, and while this setup is prime for writing about baseball, it will not be conducive to maintaining the rest of the community as it grows.

All this is really inconsequential, as the season is almost over, and another successful year of LL in on the books. Congratulations on the community you have built, and here’s to a successful offseason, and a great chance to refresh ourselves for next year.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What a crazy season, and what a crazy community.

I started stopping by this place because a friend recommended your writing. It made me remember why I love baseball, and wonder why I pulled back from it for so long. Now I’m addicted, pulled in by the people that frequent this site. I love having a place to waste my workdays as well as have an opportunity to learn about baseball.

I really don’t want to turn this into an Academy Awards thank you comment, but really, it seems everyone deserves a thanks. Thanks to Jeff, of course, for keeping this place going even when he’s about to lose his mind—sorry your charges get out of control sometimes. Also thanks M & G for your writing (and picture usage) and your mod powers.

But mostly thanks y’all for being amazing. Although at times this place makes me want to scream, for the most part, I come here to laugh. And the things that y’all have done for someone you’ve never met in person—inquired about jobs, offered a place to stay, checked in during the hurricanes…thanks. Thanks so much.

I’ll stop there. I think many of you know what it is I’m saying, anyway.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 7:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff, you have changed the way I follow baseball for the better

You are a great writer and you put up with more shit here (on the field and in the game threads) than most people would be able to deal with.

Please don’t stop, but remember that we all have lives of our own; we will understand why you may need to post less.

So basically, thanks for everything. Following the M’s from Philly/New York would be soooo hard without LL and USSM.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Sep 28, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2008 Gone, Hot Stove Season go!

First order of business, New GM/Manager.

Hopefuls? Predictions?

by IceStormV1 on Sep 28, 2008 7:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If I were older and you were single

I would offer you my first-born daughter

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 7:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You rule. Don't ever change.

Thanks for the great year. And do slow down. And let’s get shitty over the off season sometime.

by chinn on Sep 28, 2008 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Jeff

I love coming to LL to read your writing. I enjoy the community, but your writing is why I come here. I don’t mind that you haven’t written as much as you have the previous 2 seasons I’ve been here. LL still gives me a place to go to talk to people who care about Mariners baseball. It’s a like experiencing a little piece of home. I would be lonelier living overseas if it weren’t for LL.

by brayden04 on Sep 28, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This site makes me a better, more intelligent fan.

Living in New York, there’s not coverage or concern for this team. Your website changes that.

I remember going out to eat with some friends a few months ago, and LL came up in our conversations. A guy at the table next to us leans over and asks, are you guys talking about Lookout Landing? I was shocked. When that’s happening across the country it’s a pretty clear indication that this place is a success.

by CKel on Sep 28, 2008 8:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Leone to Waivers endorses me

For whatever reason

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is???

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 28, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping it's Kim Ng.

Out of all the candidates available she seems likely to be hired.(At least one of the most logical…)

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 28, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see

IIRC she was heavily mentioned last time we went GM hunting too

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 28, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see who we'll trade/ditch...

How we handle Clement, our OF, etc.

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 28, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff, you're the constant of this blog.

The name has changed, the website has changed (twice), your supporting writers have changed but you’ve been the main writer for the last 5(?) years. Even back on the ESPN board, it was obvious that you (and Trent and Devin) that you were talented even if you were just battling retards like DM and Vert. It’s been exciting to see this blog grow from a blog on blogspot rooting for a unknown AAAA 3rd baseman to the very successful site it is today.

by Mariner John on Sep 28, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, DM

How I don’t miss you in any possible way.

by Garces on Sep 28, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

I mean a lot of the posters have changed, and the content has changed in many ways, but at the same time this place feels like one of the few constants in my life. As someone who went to school thousands of miles from home and the Mariners, and without any friends who were into baseball I’ve really enjoyed this place.

I don’t post in every thread, but I try to read as many of your article as possible. I try to spread as much of the knowledge about baseball as I gain from this place elsewhere.

While I don’t grok everything that is said here and I don’t have the time to memorize or analyze as much stuff as some people here, I still feel that this site has really enhanced my love, appreciation and knowledge of baseball.

I probably won’t be chiming in much for awhile (need to cut down on web surfing at work) but I’ll still find time to read what you, Matthew and Graham have to say about this off season.

Once again thanks and I look forward to next year.

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Sep 29, 2008 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Jeff

I haven’t been commenting in game threads the last couple months very much, but that’s entirely because of the pain of this season. I still read the site every day though.

Do what you need to do. This place is still great and always will be. Being a Mariners fan wouldn’t be the same without this place.

by Happybelly on Sep 28, 2008 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I gave up on this season a while ago.

It makes me glad that not only did you want to give up, but that you never actually did, Jeff. Fantastic job you’ve been doing, dude.

by JLC on Sep 28, 2008 9:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff, your comparison is faulty

Because, unlike the average grizzled MLB veteran, your output quality hasn’t decreased – just the quantity. I honestly couldn’t have made it through this season without LL; hell, I stopped caring about the games in mid-August, which is horrifying. But anyway, this place made the rest of the season worth having, and I can’t thank you enough for that. Next time I’m in SD, the first several rounds are on me.

And I buy good beer.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 28, 2008 9:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

August?

Wow, you’re a big fan. I don’t think I made it past mid-May.

by AZSEAfan on Sep 28, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's been a horrible ride, but hey we stuck with it through the end.

Thanks for providing reasons to still care, even if that caring caused pain.
Thanks for giving us a place to vent that pain.
Thanks for showing us alternatives to the pain.

They say the bad memories fade in time and if true, then I look forward to the day when all I remember about 2008 is Erik Bedard’s first batter, Felix’s grand slam, Morrow’s first start, RRS’ curve to Garret Anderson, Adrian Beltre’s one knee homerun, carrots and some epic beer. Plus the other stuff. It could have been worse.

by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 9:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to everybody involved

I started here as a lurker in the end of 06, I believe. Since then, I’ve become more and more involved, and the team has become more and more pathetic. However, the site has maintained the quality that brought me here in the first place. In fact, I’d say it’s gotten even better. I was in on nearly every game thread last season, and for most of the early part of this season. It was fun to run through all the emotion of a game with other people. I’m the only person in my small circle of friends that even cares about baseball, so it’s nice having all of you here to act as surrogate, baseball-loving friends for me.

Jeff (and, to a lesser extent, Matthew and Graham), you owe us no obligation to write. Your writing brought most of us here, but the community has been what has kept many of us coming back. The content on this site is amazing, though, and always a source of knowledge not otherwise found in day-to-day life. Keep it up, and here’s to the most exciting offseason I’ve been able to experience as a fan.

Salut!

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Sep 28, 2008 10:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As a long-distance M's fan,

The amount of joy I get from LL’s analysis, humor, fine writing and righteous rage, when compared to the amount of joy I get from the Mariners themselves, is roughly the same ratio as the awesomeness of Felix compared to the awesomeness of Beluga Tits.

I’ve also noticed that — from the combination of being a Seattle sports fan and living in Boston — I’m much more moved and motivated by vindictive spite than love these days. So no worries on the diminishment of game posts — it’s shit like “You reap what you sow, motherfuckers” that keeps my days afloat.

Lots of love, metric tons of gratitude.

by Hoft on Sep 28, 2008 10:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Never posted here...

…but read it daily because of the great content and laughs. Thanks, Jeff and crew!

Most ordinary thiazides are renovasoconstrictors

by doctor-of-meat on Sep 28, 2008 10:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And, throughout the year, you sounded like someone who wanted to quit

Good thing you didn’t, because the Mariners blogosphere sucks without Jeff Sullivan.

Don’t ever quit. Make them drag you away. Keep up the good work.

by Gomez on Sep 28, 2008 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well,
Maybe it was presumptuous and arrogant of me to think that a change in content could really make that much of a difference, because the truth of the matter is that LL has grown into something so much greater than what goes on the front page.

It has become something more than just what’s on the frontpage, but the frontpage is what brought us all here, and the biggest reason why we all keep coming back. I think we’ve made abundantly clear in the off topic FanPosts that we come from a lot of different places and backgrounds and trains of thought, but baseball and your writing is what brings us all together. I can’t imagine what LL would look like without you, Matthew and Graham.

Count me on the J/M/G bandwagon if there ever is a real one.

by seattlebruin on Sep 28, 2008 10:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.

The reason the off-topic threads exist is that we’ve come to know one another through baseball and J/M/G. We like to talk shit about whatever’s happening in the world — from Rock Band to what kind of car you should buy — but the only reason that dialog exists is because of baseball and the way LL does a good job of separating the wheat from the chaff.

I always wonder if Jeff and Co. will come to resent how popular the site has become — the the point where people are creating non-baseball threads every day — but I see a group of people who can police themselves. And the quality of baseball discussion here inherently leads to a good group of readers who want to talk about other things, too.

Side note: Please continue to be grammar/capitalization/logic Nazis. It’s damn hard today to find a community on the Internet that expects as much from its members. You don’t have to be a genius, but do a little bit of homework, write like you graduated from middle school, and always be on the lookout for knowledge. It’s not hard, and weeding out the people who are incapable of those things makes it better for everyone. This is not a message board, and this is not Baker’s blog. Demand quality, and it will follow.

I love this place. I have been reading for a couple of years but only really jumped into the comments over the past year, year and a half. I worried that I would always be an outsider since I wasn’t around during the early early days (this place is obviously a bit members-only — and for a reason), but I’ve stumbled upon my favorite place on the Web.

I’m rambling. LL kicks ass. Done.

by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks from me as well.

Please keep up the good work – I have little time to comment, but I really appreciate all of the late hours you put into LL. What is that magic sleep limit? I’m struggling to find a balance between completely delirious (my wife and I couldn’t remember what day or date it was this morning) and just delirious enough to produce good work.

Be open minded about what you don't know.

by Jed MC on Sep 28, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to Jeff and everyone else on LL

This season sucked, but for some messed up reason I’m sad it’s over. Can’t wait for 2009!!

by MFAN on Sep 28, 2008 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know what you mean.

I’m not sure why, but this was nearly as entertaining as much of last season was, but on the opposite end of reason. I never knew how fun it could be to root for losses.

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Sep 28, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Jeff. ... LL and USSM have made being a Seattle Baseball fan worthwhiled.

To Jeff and company,

I don’t want to make a scene, but I am more grateful than you could image.

My last 18 months have been more difficult than I wish to repeat. I have relied on watching baseball as a source of conversation, entertainment, and (my poor timing) healing and hope. There were a few months there were I read every single word posted on this site, just to avoid thinking about other things. Now, fittingly with the end of the M’s season, I have moved on to a new period in my life.

So when I say I am grateful for your diligent and sometimes brilliant writing of this mockery of a professional baseball club, please understand how sincere I am.

With that said, may the Seattle Mariners have the greatest off season of any professional sports team ever.

by mark sobba on Sep 28, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you to Jeff and all of the LL community

I discovered this place before the season, and even when my interest in the Mariners waned, I still read LL multiple times a day. It got to the point where I got my M’s information from LL. Keep doing what you do Jeff, it’s keeping me a Mariner fan.

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on Sep 28, 2008 10:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I sincerely want to thank you guys for all the time, effort and typing you put into this place

And this goes for everyone. Jeff, who is the blogger I can only dream of becoming (not really because that’s weird but you know what I mean), Graham for his intelligence and verbal smackdowns (and for teaching me that yes, Livan Hernandez is truly awful) and Matthew for being the best goddamn ferry on the planet. And to all the regular and irregular posters – y’all are hilarious and good company. When I was isolated in Arizona last fall, it was amazing being able to hang online with people who loved the Mariners, were good company and weren’t complete retards. Thanks, everybody, you’re awesome.

by Nick S on Sep 28, 2008 10:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll just say ditto

to all of the above comments. You are single-handedly responsible for me losing my business since I never get a damn thing done. Next time I drive west on I-8 I would gladly buy you a tasty beverage. Uh, don’t stop believin’?

by AZSEAfan on Sep 28, 2008 11:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As someone who's been reading you since BEFORE day 1

I’ve just gotta say…this sounds like a bunch of whining to me.

Suck it up, pie faucker, or you’ll be getting a collect call from Jeff Cirillo. Believe it.

low five

by Garces on Sep 28, 2008 11:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And yes, I know that was Devin

That’s why I’m the guy in my pajamas drinking a Jubelale and you’re…well, that sounds almost right, actually.

Screw it, I’m just lazy.

by Garces on Sep 28, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All the above echo my own sentiments.

I visit this site pretty much daily, and, having made the rounds like some kind of cheap internets whore, I can say without pause that this is the greatest sports community in existence.

Thanks to everyone who makes this place tick.

by Omerta on Sep 28, 2008 11:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you so much Jeff

Starting from about 15 minutes after I learned that the Bedard trade was going to happen, this has been one of the most difficult years of my life on a personal level. I tried to use sports as a relief but with the exception of 35 sexy minutes on June 23rd, the first time one my team made me happy was last Sunday.

Yet despite this, LL helped me get through the rough parts of 08 by not only teaching me more about the game that I hate to love but connecting me with people that I can consider genuine friends. Thanks to all you people that made it happen. I owe you all

by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 11:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff you make baseball more enjoyable for so many people

You make baseball so much more that it would be by itself. Your analysis and posts make not only my but I’m sure many other fan’s days. This season has tested Mariners fans and because of this wonderful place you, the regular posters, the non-regular posters, and the lurkers were able to get through it with some laughs, some anger, and some tears. To use a dead meme, we’ve now all been through wars. And Jeff as our leader you made it easier on us all by having this place for all of us to come to and doing so much for it. Yeah kind of cheesy I know. I would also like to echo all that has been already said. The people which frequent this site are pretty awesome and no other place is like it.

I started lurking on the blog since it started and even remember some of the ESPN board days but only started posting off and on this season. It has allowed me to enjoy baseball more than what I would have since none of my friends or family are baseball fans. So I come here and read your incredible posts and enjoy this community and feel better about being a fan of this team. If I had to pick only one website that I could go to, it would be this one hands down. Thank you so much Jeff.

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2008 12:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Jeff

I’m one of the people that enjoyed the recaps more than anything else on the site too. I used to follow along in the game threads but the SBN 2 format makes it difficult. After some of the games last year, I couldn’t wait to come to Lookout Landing and check out what you had to say about the game, because you captured the emotional roller coaster of it so well – it was like reliving the game again.

I have to admit that I haven’t come here as much since the recaps stopped being included along with the charts, but I’m still a near-daily visitor. I even got to meet some LL regulars (and Red) at a game in August, which was really fun and speaks to the community that you’ve built. I hope you never stop writing.

by naviomelo on Sep 29, 2008 1:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to sound Cliché, but you made the best experience possible for being a Mariners fan.

And also made it possible for devoted Mariners fans to interact and evaluate teams and players without using hollow stats like ERA or RBI. You do an amazing job at writing, in fact the content of this site is comparable to content people write for a living, if not better. I did not know a whole lot about baseball beyond what any casual fan knew before finding USSMariner or Lookout Landing, but while I feel the intelligent input I did was probably next to nothing, its been hell of a learning experience for me. Not only that, but you made it fun to read with your witty commentary. And I can’t forget to mention Matthew, Graham, and Gomez (if Gomez is still here, doesn’t seem to be on the current mod list) for also being awesome contributors to this site as well. A team like the Mariners doesn’t deserve fans like you guys.

I haven’t posted on here in maybe a month because I lost interest of the Mariners for various reasons, including an increased work load and school starting. I couldn’t imagine how hard it would be to have to write about a team like the Mariners as a hobby on a daily basis. That shows true character and I hope that one day your effort for writing for this site will paid off, whatever it may be. I look forward to see what happens in the offseason and will look to Lookout Landing first for full coverage whatever it may be.

Here’s to hoping for a good 2009 and a 2008 Rays WS!

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Sep 29, 2008 2:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I take back the Gomez statement.

Looks like he is still here.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Sep 29, 2008 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff, Matthew, Graham

Thanks for the amazing content. I keep saying it, but it’s worth saying again – for someone relatively new to even the sport, your writing is very accessible, interesting, informative and thought provoking. And often a lot amusing.

A website’s/blog’s success owes little to its style and a lot to its content, and for that we are truly thankful.

Mariner fan, Europhile and mobile insider --- P3 W1 L2 (.333)
Sponsor of Jamie Burke's baseball-reference page

by MarkE on Sep 29, 2008 4:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Merci beaucoup mon ami!

Have to add my own thanks. I have a job that keeps me from my friends and family for long periods of time. It is so great to have a place where I can spend some time each day to keep me sane. I have you to thank for that Jeff, and I will always be grateful.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 29, 2008 7:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To echo what everyone else has already said (I'm even echoing echoes)

Thanks to Jeff and all the other mods/writers here. I don’t post a lot but I do visit the site several times a day and my life just wouldn’t be the same without LL. Let’s hope for a good off season..

by Kaorikaze on Sep 29, 2008 8:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the many big differences between Jeff and me ...

… when I reached that point I walked away.

Of course among the other major differences between us is that Jeff has a lot more talent than have I.

In a small way I handed the reins to Jeff, and he showed how the combination of talent, timing and energy is a winning combination. Thanks Jeff for being so willing (… compelled … obsessed??) to share your abilities with us.

by Steve Nelson on Sep 29, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks so much, Jeff

Not much to add that hasn’t been said above, but as a loyal lurker here for the past couple of years I wanted to let you know that I visit the site several times per day and love it just as much as the first day I visited here.

Keep up the great work; I’m looking forward to continued reading in the offseason. Maybe next year I’ll finally get the cojones to post more regularly.

by CDigg on Sep 29, 2008 10:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff, I hope you bookmark this page.

And if you ever feel depressed, come back and bask in all the praise.

You probably didn’t mean to evoke such an outpouring of support, but there’s a big community here that really values what you do… and would be deeply saddened if you had to walk away from it all.

Also, I don’t think anyone was worried about the slump in recap production. As the team goes, so goes the inspiration of all of its writers. I thought the balance was fine… since I took a few days off here and there anyway, I barely noticed any drop off.

Thanks for seeing it through, I hope the Rays give you some PS joy, and the front office does something to make you happy in the next 5 months.

by johnbai on Sep 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Obligatory Photo Post...

That photo made me realize that, in spite of my best intentions, I didn’t make it to any LL/USSM this year. And I’m a more empty person because of it…

Even when you’re not here in person, you’re here in spirit, and that says a lot about you. That you persisted and stuck it out when you had good reason to surrender says all the more. The community you’ve fostered completes it all.

The roster turnover, both good and bad, definitely helps keep this place alive. I’ve been there through most of it (though, sadly, missed out on the pre-Fire Bavasi/L43 days on the ESPN boards, as I’ve only been on blogs since 2004), and sites like this have definitely changed me as a person.

Not sure if that change is for the better or for the worse, yet, but life’s definitely more fun having this cyberspace to hang out in…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 29, 2008 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Jeff!

In 2007 LL helped me find humor in a personally trying year. In 2008 LL found ways to keep me interested in one of the sorriest MLB products I have ever seen.

Always take care of your own needs first, but I will enjoy your work as long as it is available for my consumption.

by Sec 108 on Sep 29, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm late to comment

but I’ve enjoyed the site enormously the last couple of years. The OT wackiness as well as the sabermetrics (which I don’t really understand — I’m too old-school to learn new stats. I’m halfway interested nonetheless.)

Nothing offends me. I don’t care who stole your bike. And I’ll always remember the sheer joy when FUNK BLAST!!! first came into vogue.

ignacio

by ignacio on Sep 29, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you so much LL

While I haven’t posted much on this site (largely due to moving to Maine and getting used to watching games on East Coast time), Jeff, you and the rest of this community have made watching my 22nd season of Mariner baseball bearable even during what has arguably been one of the hardest seasons to endure as a fan. The work that each of you do have helped make me a more educated fan, and made watching even the worst games leagues better than sitting in one of the local dives listening to a rowdy group of drunk Mainers shout “YOOOOOOOK!” at the TV for three hours every time the Sox play.

I’m sure you put in more time and effort than the majority of us realize, and persevered when many of us would have just thrown up our hands and say “F**k this, I quit!”. The fact that you do this out of your love for our team and the game, and not for profit makes your work even more amazing.

So thank you Lookout Landing. I look forward to keep reading, and learning, and preparing to do my little dance to the Felix Day song in 2009, and here’s to the quick demise of the Lincoln/Armstrong regime and having them replaced by a collection of rocks that give money to a competent GM. One can always hope right?

"Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew." - Charlie Papazian

by kzuudj on Sep 29, 2008 2:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love LL

Thanks Jeff. The shorter post work better for me anyway. I have been way to busy to read too much on the M’s, and I would much prefer to read your stuff over the P.I. or the Times.

by InSpokane on Sep 29, 2008 6:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There's not much to say that others haven't already said, but I'd like to echo the sentiments above.

Despite the fact that I didn’t really start participating in the community until this season, I’ve been reading since the L43 days. You’ve been really influential in my baseball education, and I thank you for all the work you’ve done over the years. The one good thing about being a Mariners fan is the quality of the blogosphere and I hope no one takes it for granted. To say that LL is the best of the lot is high praise indeed, but it’s true nonetheless and it gets better all the time. Thanks Jeff, and thanks as well to Matthew, Graham, Gomez and everyone else that’s contributed over the years.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2008 7:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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