9/28: Open Game Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 12:00 PM PDT
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Also: A Big Fat Fucking Thank You For This Blog And All Your Hard Work On It.
No
The chances of picking first are almost gone.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Washington sucks.
They had a huge chance to at least tie the game in the ninth yesterday and completely blew it, remember?
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm saying Strasburg is not necessarily going to be the first pick
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh.
Still, nobody who has an education would want to not pick Strasburg.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
A player like Strasburg doesn't come around very often.
Price shouldn’t be an object.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
We're having an "event" at our house, so unfortunately I can't sit on my ass watching the M's all afternoon.
Muster some GTE for me, will you?
We were 11-10 at one point?
Wow, we’re reaching.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 28, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Mariners, we don't have to lose anymore.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 28, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions
Iwas was watching the MEts and Brewers
Now I have to punch channels
grrrr
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there anything more stupid than extra innings between a clinched team and a non-playoff team on the final day of the season?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I want all the one game playoffs that are humanly possible.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Detroit has to play Chicago tomorrow if both teams hold on
and Chicago will almost surely win
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but that game isn't reliant on the Tigers/Rays game.
As long as the White Sox win that game will take place.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
you might as well try to win the division outright within reason
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Edwin Jackson is pitching.
It’s not fun at all.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
*Although I really enjoyed the shot of that balding Mets' fan crying.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you're in the wrong place.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
At least alcohol flows freely there.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I made limoncello a few months ago and it's ready to drink.
Plus the pub was a sad place, as it was Spurs vs Portsmouth. Let’s make it two losses in one day!
CC is just a pure ace. I hope Felix turns into that one day.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
GRIT!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Although now that the Sox win
I think we are guaranteed a makeup game
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet.
It’s not quite the same though
I want the Twins to win so they’ll be fighting for their lives.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Look like we'll get out wish
bases loaded, this just helps the Rays
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If the White Sox have to play three games, potentially in three cities...
burning two extra starters…
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Burning Liriano would be pretty grand.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Liriano vs Danks!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
One game playoffs are the best thing ever and since I don't care that much
bring them on
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a good way for the Brewers to clinch. Playing another would ruin.
I do want to see a Chicago/Minnesota playoff game though.
The Rockies/Padres playoff last year was simply amazing to watch.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine is the Super Bowl last year.
It wasn’t baseball, but it was ridiculous.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Before I wanted them to lose because of the draft.
Now I want them to lose because fuck them that’s why.
J.K.L.
Urhhhh ohhh....
For some reason I still want us to lose today even though we lost the race.
I am concerned.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
Post-Traumatic Suck Disorder
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
His BABIP has been absurdly low
hope hope hope
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at that game. It was epic.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Woooo!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Shit, Millwood hasn't been as bad as everyone says he's been this year.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions
True, but he's been pretty damn unlucky as well
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by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
*Sound of being punched in stomach.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Valbuena or Lopey?
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Lopez would play shortstop like Betancourt hits
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't follow.
Seemingly good, but actually not that great?
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Entertaining to watch?
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by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Betancourt hits like Betancourt fields.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
O great baseball gods, how have we offended thee?
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven't seen him range to his left yet but going to the right he's a-ok
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That doesn't happen very often.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't even get TBS HS and it's been over a year
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Aside from sports, it's worthless.
They just take old movies — in their 4:3 formats, no less — and stretch them to 16:9. It’s awful.
Don't know, will shuffle
was Alfie/Vermette/Fisher a few days ago.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like finding that awesome hidden level in Psychanauts!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
A man named Church batting on a Sunday
is not even remotely near the definition of irony you tway.
I was just screaming at my TV about that.
One of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a while. Is that Chip Caray?
People don't know what that word means.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't even care about the misuse of irony.
I was more just cringing at the dumb attempt to tie his name to some divine outcome.
At least they didn't say something like:
Retribution against Koufax!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Mets out!
GO BREWERS!
OMG IF THE RAYS AND BREWERS MEET IN THE SERIES, I WILL DIE HAPPILY IN A POOL OF SILKY GREATNESS.
Chance of that happening? I'd say about 8%.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do I not question that this is a scientifically exact number?
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
WOOOOO!!!!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
Can somebody update me on the Mets game?
MLB.com seems to have completely, spontaneously broken.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
THEY LOST
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
YAY!
woo!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Mets lose! Weeping and wailing and gnashing and rending of garments! I'M SO HAPPY I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO CRY.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
They've been the the world series
but hahaha they were destoryed
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahahaha, take that, New York teams
No playoffs in the final year at Shea or Yankee Stadium. Awesome.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
Seems strange considering it worked fine on Opening Day
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the weekend?
All the sports sites seem to work like shit on the weekend.
Oh joy FoxSports broke.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny thing is, the White Sox were SUPPOSED to face Cliff Lee today
But he had a sore neck. Talk about dodging a bullet.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
They have to win two now.
AWESOME
POTENTIALLY TWO PLAYOFF LIKE GAMES
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't really remember anytime when the media really supported more than one player from the same team.
I’m sure if it weren’t for Pedroia there would be
Ha, from the Fark thread:
Meet the Mets, meet the Mets,
Head for the park and beat the Mets.
Hot dogs, green grass all out at Shea,
Guaranteed to have a shiatty ass day.
Because those Mets are really chokin’ this year.
Son of a biatch get me another beer.
Long Island, New Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens, Uptown and Down,
Let’s Go Mets: that’s the fail all over New York town.
So ESPN is stupid..but we all know that.
How can you have such a big day with baseball and ESPN is showing Billiards and ESPN2 is showing WNBA. Ugh.
I fucking hate you Mariners
TBS has nationals rights during the afternoon
ESPN the evening
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Value defined by WPA
A-Rod = choke-a-holic this year in high leverage sits
Depends on your definition of MVP.
If you go by value, then you have to use WPA and in that case it’s not even remotely close.
If you go by overall stats, then you should use bRAA + Defense + position and that would go to A-Rod
I am much more inclined to go the second route.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not
the second is far more predictive but the first talks about actual value, which seems to be the heart of the award.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're looking back on a season and trying to identify the most valuable player
it makes sense to look at the player who most helped his team win, no?
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Well really you'd take the best player on the best contract.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
But in the spirit of the seasonal award
I’m taking the best overall player, not the best guy who was the most clutch
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The best player is the most valuable going forward
but I don’t think that’s what the award is supposed to be about.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
'Provided most value' is pretty obviously different to 'best'
by Graham MacAree on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
How could the player who is the most valuable not be the best?
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
"Best" implies true talent level.
Insanely talented players slump and fall victim to bad luck.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Because perhaps the best player didn't provide value at the right times
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This is just as retarded as all the lame sportswriter arguments
but from a different direction.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
No it's not
Player A: x true talent
Player B: 1.1x true talent
Player A: great in clutch situations
Player B: average in clutch situations
Player B is the better player, but Player A was the more valuable of the two over a given time frame.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, if you truly believe timely hitting
merit based
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Regardless of how fluky or unsustainable it is
clutch hits still happen. If a guy accumulates a lot of them, it will have made him pretty valuable until he stops.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The value is irreverent if it's not skill based.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
On a team basis sure
but it doesn’t determine the most valuable individual player
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If you bet your life's savings on green and win
It’s not like they then take the money away because it’s unsustainable.
by Graham MacAree on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They don't give you an award for being a smart investor either.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
But the money is the value
Not your investment capability
by Graham MacAree on Sep 28, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't make it any less true
Over the course of the 2008 season, Joe Mauer was the most valuable hitter in the American League (by a fair margin).
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
And his team may make the playoffs!
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yogi Berra, Thurmon Munson, Pudge.
That’s some pretty good company.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Yankees @ 730
YES only, MLB TV if you can get it.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
So I guess there's no watching the last M's game of the season.
MLBTV better be giving me the 8$ for the person that took my spot today.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
We would have been so pissed off by all of this if we were still contending for Strasburg,
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
I don't think any teams would consider it really
it’s a more difficult position and he’s never played it.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
11:00 am, WGN
nvm
I can’t belive that they had it on their schedule.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I just meant I can't wait for this to end
I won’t be able to watch that game tomorrow anyway.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
My daily routine during hockey season is much much better
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But rarely and hockey is way better anyway
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
My girlfriend is excited about the end of baseball season.
Little does she know I plan on being much more engaged in the playoffs this year.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a good substitute for coffee, though.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nats fired the entire coaching staff.
Dave N. just put it out on the radio.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
No, Acta and PC Randy St. Claire are staying put
per rotoworld.
I'm thinking this will turn the team around, overnight.
Good thinking, the staff was the biggest problem.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Riggleman sounds smart,
just not baseball smart.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ.
Couldn’t they have waited a day or two?
Should tell them their jobs are secure.
Call them up at 3 in the morning on Christmas Eve. It kind of bothers me to see guys that devote their careers to baseball get scapegoated.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Part of the job
I’m sure they saw it coming.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus, could you imagine being the guy that thought he would weather the storm?
“No problem honey, new addition to the house will look great!”
Somewhere in time, that guy has existed.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
FUCK WHOEVER DID WHATEVER JUST HAPPENED
Bye!
by chinn on Sep 28, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't tell if that was worth giffing
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
213 hits to finish out the year.
Remember when people thought Ichiro wasn’t going to get close to 200 this year?
Those people don't understand how often he bats
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
So, Jeff
how has Ichiro done since you wrote “Ichiro is Fine”
You can calculate this amazingly quick using the gamelogs at bbref.com
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And gloat I shall!
Barring something unforeseen, I expect Ichiro’s numbers from this point forward to look a lot more familiar than they have to date. If his batting average between tomorrow and the end of the season isn’t in or around the .310-.330 range, I’ll eat a hat.*
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll assume .333 means you don't have to eat a hat
but I still think you ought to for the entertainment value.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The asterisk said "or a delicious sandwich"
I think I’d prefer the sandwich
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But that has significantly less comedic value.
However, its nutritional value probably outweighs that.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's too bad he didn't say he would east his shoe.
Then he could be like Werner Herzog.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Not only was his BA during that span .333
his season average wound up in that range.
Ichiro is in decline and we should trade him.
That was the first line of one of the first player guides I read as a 8 year old
You’ve heard it said before by the experts:
“Baseball is 80% pitching… baseball is 90% pitching!”
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
WIllie Boomquist, Miguel Cairo, and Raul Ibanez are 2009 FAs.
Dave Sims: I don’t think any of them come back.
God bless you, Dave.
I can hardly conceive of a Mariners team without Willie Ballgame
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch us never have a capable 25th man ever again.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh the good 'ol days of Charles Gipson.
Guy couldn’t hit his way out of a wet paper sack, but he had some moments.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Very
but they’re misleading because he’s looked really good.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang, I'm in that lull before the storm.
After the Nat’s cleaned house today, now I’m antsy for changes in the M’s organization.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
? Whoosh. It's just hard not to hold my breath.
Will they wait until the playoffs are over? Argh. Patience, not like I have a choice or anything.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Being charitable to myself, figured I missed an in-joke.
Usually it’s just the joke. Reply fail is much better.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
He's gonna' strike out the side on 9 pitches.
6 98 MPH FBs, two perfect splitters and the most ridiculous curve ever.
J.K.L.
by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Ridiculous as in he suddenly has a good one, or because he still throws it?
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Gotcha. I'm hoping myself. Hoping beyond hope he puts something together and gets going.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
Forkballs are technically held a little deeper in the hand but the idea is the same
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
In this game the forkball had twice the downward break
but yes they’re basically the same
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
KKK! Ballgame! Mariners win!
61-101.
What a miserable fucking waste of a season.
Please be kind to us in the off season baseball gods.
Yay
Hopefully there will game threads for the playoffs.
I'd rather check in on the playoffs here than on say, the Twins thread.
I follow some of the teams, but watching their playoff high makes me a little sad and bitter.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
I secretly hope Ibanez comes back
Without Beltre i need someone to entertain me during the shit season
Next season will not be shit
Nowhere to go but up!
But mediocre probably actually sucks more.
At least we had a kick chasing the Nats for Strasburg and having something to care about.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ciao 2008 Mariners
Don’t come back soon! I look forward to seeing you blown up.
Time to metamorphose into Shark Fan.
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