9/28: Open Game Thread
Oakland Athletics at Seattle Mariners, Sep 28, 2008 1:10 PM PDT
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That song is ridiculously long.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's still echoing in my ears.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHat is the song called.
It is awesome though!
by Slurvey on Sep 28, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rarely do I forget to do two steps.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need two screen names if you're going to keep this up.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we change it back so I can make _JI
?
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can this not be your alternate?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you just want to change your SBN name, not make two?
Then stop talking to yourself.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can bang me whenever you want.
Also: A Big Fat Fucking Thank You For This Blog And All Your Hard Work On It.
by chinn on Sep 28, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Might as well win.
The chances of getting Strasburg are gone. :(
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No
The chances of picking first are almost gone.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington sucks.
They had a huge chance to at least tie the game in the ninth yesterday and completely blew it, remember?
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying Strasburg is not necessarily going to be the first pick
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Still, nobody who has an education would want to not pick Strasburg.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A player like Strasburg doesn't come around very often.
Price shouldn’t be an object.
"Hole in one, eh?"
by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're having an "event" at our house, so unfortunately I can't sit on my ass watching the M's all afternoon.
Muster some GTE for me, will you?
by chinn on Sep 28, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Washington wins it'll go a long way
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im gonna miss you Krueger
You god damn idiot
by BigR on Sep 28, 2008 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewers tied up the Cubs.
And the Marlins are tied with the Mets.
Com’on Brewers and Marlins!
by Wilder. on Sep 28, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LETS sEND THE YEAR OUT WITH THE BEST GAME THREAD EVER
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I SEE NOBODY SHARES MY ENTHUSIASM
WELL ITS ALL GOOD!
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were 11-10 at one point?
Wow, we’re reaching.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mariners, we don't have to lose anymore.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My MLB.tv is acting up and I hate it
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now it won't load
Watch me not care!
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iwas was watching the MEts and Brewers
Now I have to punch channels
grrrr
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it just righted itself?
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins and Sox both winning late
YES YES YES
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there anything more stupid than extra innings between a clinched team and a non-playoff team on the final day of the season?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want all the one game playoffs that are humanly possible.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit has to play Chicago tomorrow if both teams hold on
and Chicago will almost surely win
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but that game isn't reliant on the Tigers/Rays game.
As long as the White Sox win that game will take place.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers have to throw something at them
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you might as well try to win the division outright within reason
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not fun unless you are coming from behind
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwin Jackson is pitching.
It’s not fun at all.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gather from this that he will not be in the postseason rotation
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would seem that way.
Sonnanstine!
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Although I really enjoyed the shot of that balding Mets' fan crying.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was so beautiful.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On September 20th the Mets had an 86.9% chance of going to the playoffs
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I'm home from the pub.
I’m ready for baseball.
by royalcurve on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you're in the wrong place.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you implying I should have stayed at the pub?
by royalcurve on Sep 28, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least alcohol flows freely there.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made limoncello a few months ago and it's ready to drink.
Plus the pub was a sad place, as it was Spurs vs Portsmouth. Let’s make it two losses in one day!
by royalcurve on Sep 28, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how on the one day all year I used MLB.tv it shits the bed for me
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Arthur Rhodes in New York
this is our best chance at aq one game playoff tomorrow
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Time to go hang out at Amazin Avenue for a little while
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How long will you last before you are banned?
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just assume he goes elsewhere to troll
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC is just a pure ace. I hope Felix turns into that one day.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GRIT!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delgado BLASTS ONE DEEP!
…and is caught by Willingham.
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
by Devin on Sep 28, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THREE CHEERS FOR ARTHUR LEE RHODES!
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I want baseball tomorrow
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NY staying out of the playoffs is worth not seeing baseball tomorrow.
by Devin on Sep 28, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although now that the Sox win
I think we are guaranteed a makeup game
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet.
It’s not quite the same though
I want the Twins to win so they’ll be fighting for their lives.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look like we'll get out wish
bases loaded, this just helps the Rays
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the White Sox have to play three games, potentially in three cities...
burning two extra starters…
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on who the starters are.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burning Liriano would be pretty grand.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 28, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liriano vs Danks!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One game playoffs are the best thing ever and since I don't care that much
bring them on
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good way for the Brewers to clinch. Playing another would ruin.
I do want to see a Chicago/Minnesota playoff game though.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies/Padres playoff last year was simply amazing to watch.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the top 5 games I have ever seen.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is the Super Bowl last year.
It wasn’t baseball, but it was ridiculous.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before I wanted them to lose because of the draft.
Now I want them to lose because fuck them that’s why.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
mlb.tv will not load the Twins game. Goddamnit.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Urhhhh ohhh....
For some reason I still want us to lose today even though we lost the race.
I am concerned.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Post-Traumatic Suck Disorder
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His BABIP has been absurdly low
hope hope hope
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Outman wondering where the outs are"
Oh Dave. No.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Burke hits his first career homer again
by BigR on Sep 28, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at that game. It was epic.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit, Millwood hasn't been as bad as everyone says he's been this year.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
True, but he's been pretty damn unlucky as well
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Sound of being punched in stomach.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Outman looks a lot better than I thought he was
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Nats had won he'd be garbage.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't even get Gameday to load for the Mets
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So I kind of like Valbuena's defense a lot.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Valbuena or Lopey?
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lopez would play shortstop like Betancourt hits
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't follow.
Seemingly good, but actually not that great?
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by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Entertaining to watch?
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Betancourt hits like Betancourt fields.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
O great baseball gods, how have we offended thee?
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't seen him range to his left yet but going to the right he's a-ok
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't happen very often.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ducky?
I thought his name was Clyde.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB.tv officially will not load the Mets game either
so much for delicious screenshots.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't even get TBS HS and it's been over a year
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from sports, it's worthless.
They just take old movies — in their 4:3 formats, no less — and stretch them to 16:9. It’s awful.
by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Denorfia looks like a roadie for Wolfmother.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But Winchester had been playing well
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know, will shuffle
was Alfie/Vermette/Fisher a few days ago.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No New York in playoffs. I'm pretty happy about that.
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The New York teams have officially become as indifferent for me as most of the teams in the league.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually enjoy the Mets.
But I want the Brewers in the playoffs, so screw ’em.
by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like finding that awesome hidden level in Psychanauts!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A man named Church batting on a Sunday
is not even remotely near the definition of irony you tway.
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just screaming at my TV about that.
One of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a while. Is that Chip Caray?
by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People don't know what that word means.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even care about the misuse of irony.
I was more just cringing at the dumb attempt to tie his name to some divine outcome.
by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least they didn't say something like:
Retribution against Koufax!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the Mets have Chavez and Easley hitting behind Wright
hmmm
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THE METS ARE MADE OF EPIC FAIL!
BREWERS BREWERS BREWERS!
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets out!
GO BREWERS!
OMG IF THE RAYS AND BREWERS MEET IN THE SERIES, I WILL DIE HAPPILY IN A POOL OF SILKY GREATNESS.
by Slica on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chance of that happening? I'd say about 8%.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I not question that this is a scientifically exact number?
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOOOO!!!!
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting for the Brewers to go all the way.
Sorry Rays.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can somebody update me on the Mets game?
MLB.com seems to have completely, spontaneously broken.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THEY LOST
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted a playoff
but on the other hand
NO NEW YORK NO NEW YORK NO NEW YORK
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's over!
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets lose! Weeping and wailing and gnashing and rending of garments! I'M SO HAPPY I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO CRY.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God
a 25 year playoff drought is unbelievable.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They've been the the world series
but hahaha they were destoryed
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers vs Cubs/Brewers vs Phillies
Go Dodgers/Brewers.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Cubs/Brewers!
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Sep 28, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha, take that, New York teams
No playoffs in the final year at Shea or Yankee Stadium. Awesome.
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Sep 28, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it was broken by too many users?
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems strange considering it worked fine on Opening Day
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the weekend?
All the sports sites seem to work like shit on the weekend.
Oh joy FoxSports broke.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing is, the White Sox were SUPPOSED to face Cliff Lee today
But he had a sore neck. Talk about dodging a bullet.
B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"
by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They have to win two now.
AWESOME
POTENTIALLY TWO PLAYOFF LIKE GAMES
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked there hasn't been more Youk for MVP talk.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't really remember anytime when the media really supported more than one player from the same team.
I’m sure if it weren’t for Pedroia there would be
by BigR on Sep 28, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, from the Fark thread:
Meet the Mets, meet the Mets,
Head for the park and beat the Mets.
Hot dogs, green grass all out at Shea,
Guaranteed to have a shiatty ass day.
Because those Mets are really chokin’ this year.
Son of a biatch get me another beer.
Long Island, New Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens, Uptown and Down,
Let’s Go Mets: that’s the fail all over New York town.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So ESPN is stupid..but we all know that.
How can you have such a big day with baseball and ESPN is showing Billiards and ESPN2 is showing WNBA. Ugh.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TBS has nationals rights during the afternoon
ESPN the evening
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If PEdrioa is MVP it will be dumb
but not nearly as dumb as the Morneau selection
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Best hitter: A-Rod
Most valuable: Mauer
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Value defined by WPA
A-Rod = choke-a-holic this year in high leverage sits
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way I'd give it to Mauer is on PT.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on your definition of MVP.
If you go by value, then you have to use WPA and in that case it’s not even remotely close.
If you go by overall stats, then you should use bRAA + Defense + position and that would go to A-Rod
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am much more inclined to go the second route.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not
the second is far more predictive but the first talks about actual value, which seems to be the heart of the award.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're looking back on a season and trying to identify the most valuable player
it makes sense to look at the player who most helped his team win, no?
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well really you'd take the best player on the best contract.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in the spirit of the seasonal award
I’m taking the best overall player, not the best guy who was the most clutch
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you not value the best player?
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best player is the most valuable going forward
but I don’t think that’s what the award is supposed to be about.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Provided most value' is pretty obviously different to 'best'
by Graham on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could the player who is the most valuable not be the best?
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Best" implies true talent level.
Insanely talented players slump and fall victim to bad luck.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because perhaps the best player didn't provide value at the right times
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just as retarded as all the lame sportswriter arguments
but from a different direction.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it's not
Player A: x true talent
Player B: 1.1x true talent
Player A: great in clutch situations
Player B: average in clutch situations
Player B is the better player, but Player A was the more valuable of the two over a given time frame.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if you truly believe timely hitting
merit based
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of how fluky or unsustainable it is
clutch hits still happen. If a guy accumulates a lot of them, it will have made him pretty valuable until he stops.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The value is irreverent if it's not skill based.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's not because it happened
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a team basis sure
but it doesn’t determine the most valuable individual player
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you bet your life's savings on green and win
It’s not like they then take the money away because it’s unsustainable.
by Graham on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't give you an award for being a smart investor either.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the money is the value
Not your investment capability
by Graham on Sep 28, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't make it any less true
Over the course of the 2008 season, Joe Mauer was the most valuable hitter in the American League (by a fair margin).
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
And his team may make the playoffs!
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yogi Berra, Thurmon Munson, Pudge.
That’s some pretty good company.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morneau was roughly the 4th best player on his team.
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by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 2006 MIN Bullpen might have been the best bullpen of all time.
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Shrug*
But, jesus, look at this:
http://www.statcorner.com/team.php?team=MIN&leag=MLB&year=2006
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees @ 730
YES only, MLB TV if you can get it.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins win 6-0.
Tomorrow’s White Sox game should be good.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The broadcast is preparing us to say goodbye to Raul
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So I guess there's no watching the last M's game of the season.
MLBTV better be giving me the 8$ for the person that took my spot today.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say
Luis Valbuena has impressed me a little bit.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
winning is fun again!
by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We would have been so pissed off by all of this if we were still contending for Strasburg,
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Luis Valbuena has never played shortstop as a professional
and yet I am intrigued.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think any teams would consider it really
it’s a more difficult position and he’s never played it.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What just happened?
Stupid MLB.tv isn’t working
Bring back José Cruz Jr!
by darmok on Sep 28, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have any idea when that Tigers/ Sox game is tomorrow?
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
11:00 am, WGN
nvm
I can’t belive that they had it on their schedule.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I just noticed that Jose has 190 hits.
Neat.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't stay mad at these useless fuckers.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is always the worst day of the year :(
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just meant I can't wait for this to end
I won’t be able to watch that game tomorrow anyway.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My daily routine during hockey season is much much better
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My life is more boring in the winter
I need something to occupy three hours everyday
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does hockey generally conflict with football?
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the correct answer to my orginal question would have been "Sometimes hockey conflicts with football"
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But rarely and hockey is way better anyway
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree but it's still more exciting than baseball
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My girlfriend is excited about the end of baseball season.
Little does she know I plan on being much more engaged in the playoffs this year.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't understand why one would want to have his nostril hairs singed by a baseball game
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a good substitute for coffee, though.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That depends on how often you wash your hands.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is grosser than my Silva fried chicken comment.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are worse people to steal from.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nats fired the entire coaching staff.
Dave N. just put it out on the radio.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, Acta and PC Randy St. Claire are staying put
per rotoworld.
by edddgar on Sep 28, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking this will turn the team around, overnight.
Good thinking, the staff was the biggest problem.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to have a manager with a functioning brainstem
by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Riggleman sounds smart,
just not baseball smart.
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a job well done
They’ve earned a vacation.
by ThundaPC on Sep 28, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ.
Couldn’t they have waited a day or two?
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should tell them their jobs are secure.
Call them up at 3 in the morning on Christmas Eve. It kind of bothers me to see guys that devote their careers to baseball get scapegoated.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of the job
I’m sure they saw it coming.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, could you imagine being the guy that thought he would weather the storm?
“No problem honey, new addition to the house will look great!”
Somewhere in time, that guy has existed.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK WHOEVER DID WHATEVER JUST HAPPENED
Bye!
by chinn on Sep 28, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
They couldn't have waited one more day?
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We listened to it during LL softball
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two syllables
that’s why the o is small
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Raul way to not go for that ball at all!
by Fogel on Sep 28, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't tell if that was worth giffing
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
213 hits to finish out the year.
Remember when people thought Ichiro wasn’t going to get close to 200 this year?
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Those people don't understand how often he bats
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, Jeff
how has Ichiro done since you wrote “Ichiro is Fine”
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can calculate this amazingly quick using the gamelogs at bbref.com
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to give Jeff a chance to gloat.
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And gloat I shall!
Barring something unforeseen, I expect Ichiro’s numbers from this point forward to look a lot more familiar than they have to date. If his batting average between tomorrow and the end of the season isn’t in or around the .310-.330 range, I’ll eat a hat.*
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll assume .333 means you don't have to eat a hat
but I still think you ought to for the entertainment value.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The asterisk said "or a delicious sandwich"
I think I’d prefer the sandwich
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that has significantly less comedic value.
However, its nutritional value probably outweighs that.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 28, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's too bad he didn't say he would east his shoe.
Then he could be like Werner Herzog.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only was his BA during that span .333
his season average wound up in that range.
Ichiro is in decline and we should trade him.
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we supposed to weep becasue this is Raul's last aB?
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Riggleman pulls Ibanez for a defensive sub I'm gonna be hella pissed
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe Mike Mussina won 20 games
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least this will get him into the HOF
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CY WALKS TO END THE GAME! RANDY JOHNSON WINS #296! And pitches 184 innings.
82-80. Bah.
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the first line of one of the first player guides I read as a 8 year old
You’ve heard it said before by the experts:
“Baseball is 80% pitching… baseball is 90% pitching!”
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WIllie Boomquist, Miguel Cairo, and Raul Ibanez are 2009 FAs.
Dave Sims: I don’t think any of them come back.
God bless you, Dave.
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can hardly conceive of a Mariners team without Willie Ballgame
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's going to be strange, that's for sure.
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch us never have a capable 25th man ever again.
J.K.L.
by acblue on Sep 28, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh the good 'ol days of Charles Gipson.
Guy couldn’t hit his way out of a wet paper sack, but he had some moments.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padres/Pirates seems like a fun game
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What did you mean to say instead of fun?
by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap Valbuena's small sample defensive stats are horrible
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Very
but they’re misleading because he’s looked really good.
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Jones has the highest RZR in baseball
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe we are worse than the Giants
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe that Giants won 70 games
9=8
by JI on Sep 28, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when everybody thought they would have a historically awful offense?
by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember early on how we used to console ourselves by saying "At least we aren't the Giants"?
No floor indeed.
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Them getting swept by the Sox again would make me so damn happy.
by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Them signing Francisco Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira to some ridiculous 10-year contracts would be pretty neat too.
by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the lineup posted above is wrong
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang, I'm in that lull before the storm.
After the Nat’s cleaned house today, now I’m antsy for changes in the M’s organization.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
? Whoosh. It's just hard not to hold my breath.
Will they wait until the playoffs are over? Argh. Patience, not like I have a choice or anything.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being charitable to myself, figured I missed an in-joke.
Usually it’s just the joke. Reply fail is much better.
"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.
by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No
He has the perfect batting line
by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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