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9/28: Open Game Thread

Oakland Athletics at Seattle Mariners, Sep 28, 2008 1:10 PM PDT





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - R.A. Dickey 4-8 31 13 0 0 0 0 106.2 118 62 62 14 50 56 5.23 1.58


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Josh Outman 1-1 5 3 0 0 0 0 19.2 26 10 10 1 7 14 4.58 1.68

Let's go out with a bang, shall we?

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by chinn on Sep 28, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Might as well win.

The chances of getting Strasburg are gone. :(

"Hole in one, eh?"

by Coach Owens on Sep 28, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Strausburg?

I think you mean Shitsburg!

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Shitsburg?

I think you mean Strasburg

by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers tied up the Cubs.

And the Marlins are tied with the Mets.

Com’on Brewers and Marlins!

by Wilder. on Sep 28, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Arthur Rhodes in New York

this is our best chance at aq one game playoff tomorrow

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

GRIT!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Delgado BLASTS ONE DEEP!

…and is caught by Willingham.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

by Devin on Sep 28, 2008 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

THREE CHEERS FOR ARTHUR LEE RHODES!

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I want baseball tomorrow

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before I wanted them to lose because of the draft.

Now I want them to lose because fuck them that’s why.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Urhhhh ohhh....

For some reason I still want us to lose today even though we lost the race.

I am concerned.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 28, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Woooo!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ducky?

I thought his name was Clyde.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

A man named Church batting on a Sunday

is not even remotely near the definition of irony you tway.

by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I was just screaming at my TV about that.

One of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a while. Is that Chip Caray?

by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

People don't know what that word means.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even care about the misuse of irony.

I was more just cringing at the dumb attempt to tie his name to some divine outcome.

by Teej on Sep 28, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least they didn't say something like:

Retribution against Koufax!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mets out!

GO BREWERS!

OMG IF THE RAYS AND BREWERS MEET IN THE SERIES, I WILL DIE HAPPILY IN A POOL OF SILKY GREATNESS.

by Slica on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Chance of that happening? I'd say about 8%.

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOOOOO!!!!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Can somebody update me on the Mets game?

MLB.com seems to have completely, spontaneously broken.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

THEY LOST

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

YAY!

woo!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted a playoff

but on the other hand

NO NEW YORK NO NEW YORK NO NEW YORK

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahahaha, take that, New York teams

No playoffs in the final year at Shea or Yankee Stadium. Awesome.

Bring back José Cruz Jr!

by darmok on Sep 28, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny thing is, the White Sox were SUPPOSED to face Cliff Lee today

But he had a sore neck. Talk about dodging a bullet.

B.J. Upton's new nickname = "Laggard McShambleslow"

by esoteric on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

They have to win two now.

AWESOME
POTENTIALLY TWO PLAYOFF LIKE GAMES

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, from the Fark thread:
Meet the Mets, meet the Mets,
Head for the park and beat the Mets.

Hot dogs, green grass all out at Shea,
Guaranteed to have a shiatty ass day.

Because those Mets are really chokin’ this year.
Son of a biatch get me another beer.

Long Island, New Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens, Uptown and Down,
Let’s Go Mets: that’s the fail all over New York town.

by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

So ESPN is stupid..but we all know that.

How can you have such a big day with baseball and ESPN is showing Billiards and ESPN2 is showing WNBA. Ugh.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

If PEdrioa is MVP it will be dumb

but not nearly as dumb as the Morneau selection

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Value defined by WPA

A-Rod = choke-a-holic this year in high leverage sits

by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on your definition of MVP.

If you go by value, then you have to use WPA and in that case it’s not even remotely close.
If you go by overall stats, then you should use bRAA + Defense + position and that would go to A-Rod

by Matthew on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not

the second is far more predictive but the first talks about actual value, which seems to be the heart of the award.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

But in the spirit of the seasonal award

I’m taking the best overall player, not the best guy who was the most clutch

9=8

by JI on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The best player is the most valuable going forward

but I don’t think that’s what the award is supposed to be about.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Best" implies true talent level.

Insanely talented players slump and fall victim to bad luck.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

No it's not

Player A: x true talent
Player B: 1.1x true talent

Player A: great in clutch situations
Player B: average in clutch situations

Player B is the better player, but Player A was the more valuable of the two over a given time frame.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't make it any less true

Over the course of the 2008 season, Joe Mauer was the most valuable hitter in the American League (by a fair margin).

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed

And his team may make the playoffs!

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yogi Berra, Thurmon Munson, Pudge.

That’s some pretty good company.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees @ 730

YES only, MLB TV if you can get it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twins win 6-0.

Tomorrow’s White Sox game should be good.

by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

So I guess there's no watching the last M's game of the season.

MLBTV better be giving me the 8$ for the person that took my spot today.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 28, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I gotta say

Luis Valbuena has impressed me a little bit.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

My life is more boring in the winter

I need something to occupy three hours everyday

by Robert on Sep 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend is excited about the end of baseball season.

Little does she know I plan on being much more engaged in the playoffs this year.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nats fired the entire coaching staff.

Dave N. just put it out on the radio.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus Christ.

Couldn’t they have waited a day or two?

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should tell them their jobs are secure.

Call them up at 3 in the morning on Christmas Eve. It kind of bothers me to see guys that devote their careers to baseball get scapegoated.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus, could you imagine being the guy that thought he would weather the storm?

“No problem honey, new addition to the house will look great!”
Somewhere in time, that guy has existed.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

213 hits to finish out the year.

Remember when people thought Ichiro wasn’t going to get close to 200 this year?

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

So, Jeff

how has Ichiro done since you wrote “Ichiro is Fine”

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And gloat I shall!
Barring something unforeseen, I expect Ichiro’s numbers from this point forward to look a lot more familiar than they have to date. If his batting average between tomorrow and the end of the season isn’t in or around the .310-.330 range, I’ll eat a hat.*

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 28, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not only was his BA during that span .333

his season average wound up in that range.

Ichiro is in decline and we should trade him.

by BrianL on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang, I'm in that lull before the storm.

After the Nat’s cleaned house today, now I’m antsy for changes in the M’s organization.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

? Whoosh. It's just hard not to hold my breath.

Will they wait until the playoffs are over? Argh. Patience, not like I have a choice or anything.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being charitable to myself, figured I missed an in-joke.

Usually it’s just the joke. Reply fail is much better.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

KKK! Ballgame! Mariners win!

61-101.

What a miserable fucking waste of a season.

Please be kind to us in the off season baseball gods.

by Goose on Sep 28, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay

Hopefully there will game threads for the playoffs.

by Slica on Sep 28, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd rather check in on the playoffs here than on say, the Twins thread.

I follow some of the teams, but watching their playoff high makes me a little sad and bitter.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 28, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ciao 2008 Mariners

Don’t come back soon! I look forward to seeing you blown up.

Time to metamorphose into Shark Fan.

by Paytheline on Sep 28, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

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