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First 3 Overall Picks

I don't know about everyone here, but I'm a visual guy and it helps me to understand data when its organized as more than just numbers. With that in mind, I undertook a fairly unscientific study of the 30 drafts between 1978 and 2007. The results are as follows:

 

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A few quick notes:

-Naturally there might be some debate over who was the best player (this is all in retrospect by the way), an example being, say, Troy Glaus vs J.D. Drew of Pat Burrell vs Mark Mulder. Overall I think its fairly consistent and if someone injured themselves or didn't play for some reason I counted it against them (otherwise Hamilton vs Beckett would be a lot murkier). I didn't use a specific formula to determine the best careers, but I don't think there would be any major argument with the decisions as a whole.

-We all know the problems with All-Star balloting, but, whatever, I think its interesting to see.

-I didn't include 2008 because its too quick to judge, and obviously some of the more recent drafts will develop all-stars int he future and perhaps change who's the best player to come out of them.

With that, a couple quick conclusions/inferences:

-1st overall pick has definitely been better than 2nd, though not by a huge margin. It really drops off after that. Obviously a larger sample size, and maybe more draft poitions, would be better.

-Would anyone else have guessed that a 1st or 2nd overall pick over the last 30 years would have a 40% chance of being an All-Star? I would've guessed much lower.

-Given these are all very talented people and some just get unlucky, I'd expect the "Did not play in MLB" numbers to even out over the first three rounds with a large enough sample size.

-I'd guess there'll be less All-Stars from the top three positions as time goes on as competition for all-star spots increases from a) international signings and b) better talent evaluation / scouting turning out more all-stars from later picks.

Discuss?


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Just one mistake I see

is that Darren Dreifort did have a major league career spanning 800+ inning of league average pitching

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Sep 25, 2008 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

My bad

I must have clicked the wrong cell… the red should be on B.J. Wallace.

by Fett42 on Sep 25, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Couple things

Kris Benson over Braden Looper? Hmm, maybe, but I’d go the other way there. I think once you factor in defense, Erstad has to go ahead of Cruz, Jr. too.

Also, I don’t think it’s too useful to have a ‘best player’ selected from any of the past few drafts – we have no idea. Yes, David Price is further along than the HS bats drafted just after him, but we won’t really know for 10 years. This applies to 2005 too – Upton and Gordon are so close, it’s pretty tough to say definitively who’s going to have the better career. (I’m fairly confident Longoria will be better than Hochevar and Reynolds combined, however).

Finally, I think this shows that there IS some sort of distortion more recently – whether that’s due to slotting and bonus demands resulting in ‘signability’ picks going #1 (instead of, y’know, the best player), or whether it’s due to wider talent pool and a lack of agreement amongst scouts (remember the talk about how Longoria wasn’t that great a hitter coming out of college), I don’t know.

by marc w on Sep 25, 2008 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I could see an argument for cutting out, say, 2003-2007 for 'best player'

I think the overall #’s would look about the same for each category though

by Fett42 on Sep 25, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, yeah.

I still think there may be something weird going on, and it may be that Matt Bush/Luke Hochevar have just messed up my head. It just seems the whole #1 thing means a bit less than it once did, and it seems there’s more value lower in the draft (far and away the best player in the 2000 draft was Chase Utley who went in the teens/20s or something like that). Coupled with all of these “can’t miss” consensus #1 type players going 6th or 12th or whatever, it just seems like the old rule may not hold any more.

Thanks for doing this, btw. Nice one.

by marc w on Sep 25, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a whole a lot of kickass players come from further down in the 1st round

But as for individual draft slots, I don’t expect, that say, 6th or 9th or 13th is going to be even close to 1st in the foreseeable future… though it might be closer if one grouped 1st-5th, 6-10th, etc… hm.

by Fett42 on Sep 25, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty sweet chart.

Gets me pumped up about Strasburg!

The road to hell is paved with Mariners.

by .Taylor on Sep 25, 2008 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

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