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OTDOTD 9/24: The I'm 21 and 1 day old edition.

I've always wanted to make one of these but never had the creativity when sober to come up with any sort of tags at all. So now I'm not and have time until I wake up so we'll see how much creativity spawns from it all. have 24 minutes remaining my my power plan so I better do this quick.

I just got home from a bunch of coworkers driving me home because all my friends aren't 21 yet and I am so my bunch of coworkers drove me home after my first 21st bday. In case you didn't catch it on the last OTDOTD, I just updated that my parents ditched me on my 21st and will get back to me tomorrow because it fits their schedule better even though it doesn't fit my turning 21 better (it's a weekday so give me a fucking break, I'm going to a bar and a club on the weekend). So my coworkers filled my time at a bar/bowling alley/casino/chinese restuarant in some ghetto ass neighborhood in West Seattle. My first drink was Manny's on tap, which I'm sure was better than the Bud Light someone tried to order me and was successful later that night. Somebody spun the mystery wheel and well drinks was a buck, which I later found out what well drinks was was. A stranger bought me a Whisky7 for my bday which I imagine was roughly 8 dollars I personally wouldn't spend on a stranger. On a side note, Whisky7s suck; I wish I had a shot of straight SoCo like a manly an. I wish I had my General Tso's before or during my first three drinks and not after. My main man gave me $40 to gamble away as a present. I went ahead and lost it all on Spanish 21 in seemingly 15 minutes except for two $5 chips I found in my pocket and forgot about until now.

All things considered, I would have otherwise spent my 21st with my not 21 friends drinking MY beer that I bought on my 21st at 9 am that I started drinking at 930 that they didn't until god knows when I'll do an inventory tomorrow or if I'll even remember to. Good thing I'm writing this down. Anyway, I better wrap this up before I spend even more frickin time finding typos because it's sobering me up.

Topics that may or may not be included in discussion (hey, I just found out what the "D" is for in OTDOTD):

- Free alchohol is the best alcohol until what age?

- Better Chinese dishes than General Tso's when drunk and at a bowling alley

- Over/under on me actually taking 24 minutes before I got off my lazy ass and found my power cord?

- What's so Spanish about Spanish 21? The way the casino still fucked me I couldn't tell the god damn difference.

Topics that may or may not be included in this discussion that people are more likely to actually have comments on:

- ? > Mirror Pond > Manny's > Full Sale Pail Ale > Whisky7

- I've honestly lost a lot of interest in baseball until the postseason. What have you been doing in your baseball time?

- Reviews of the new Gong Show

Tips on watching TV at work

- How Europe is catching on to American Football and why it's not gaining more popularity already somwhere that isn't France

- Will we even take Strasburg if we get #1 overall?

- Cooler animals than Kangaroos

- Without looking, how many times did I type the numbers 21?

- Name as many synonyms for drunk without a thesaurus like I did. Winner gets a $5 dollar chip from a mystery establishment.

Edit: Hopefully it's fixed enough.

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Broccoli Beef.

Best Chineese Food right there.

55!

by joof on Sep 24, 2008 3:55 AM PDT reply actions  

You can edit the tags.

And whoa, this was remarkably coherent.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 5:24 AM PDT reply actions  

I did my best to avoid dead memeing the drunk thing.

That and I went back to try to add more tags and caught a bunch of crap before finally crashing. Apparently, I’m good with grammar but I sure sound like a fucking idiot in the second paragraph.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like one of these, to be truthful.


I just worry I won’t have the time I’ll need to properly train and pay attention to it. I will be taking off 3 weeks at the end of the year, though…

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by Faux on Sep 24, 2008 6:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Answers

 - Free alcohol almost always trumps paid-for alcohol, unless it’s Bud/Bud Light, and even then it’s tempting. Age doesn’t matter.
 - Broccoli Beef is indeed better than General Tso.
 - Don’t care.
 - Don’t care.
 - Manny’s > Mirror Pond > Full Sail. Whisky is in a different class altogether.
 - Watching other baseball and catching up on my Netflix queue.
 - Dave Attell used to be funny. The Gong Show is pure shit.
 - Don’t watch TV at work.
 - Europe should care about A football about as much as America cares about soccer. Why do they need to care about A Football?
 - Knowing the Mariners, they’ll trade the #1 pick thinking they’re trading FOR it.
 - Lorikeets, otters, koalas, pandas, naked mole rats.
 - Don’t know don’t care. But happy birthday.
 - Shattered, pissed, trolleyed, housed, bent, all fuckered up, messed up, drunkified, loaded, liquored up, altered, affected, shitfaced, hammered. I’m sure there’s more but it’s too early to think.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Bladdered

Soused
Ratted
Rat-arsed (never understood the origins of that one)

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by MarkE on Sep 24, 2008 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasted

Tipsy
Sozzled
Plastered
Blotto

by Alex B on Sep 24, 2008 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the phrase synonyms for drunk:

Three-sheets-to-the-wind
Feeling-no-pain
making-bold-claims
boiled-as-an-owl
drunk-as-a-lord
tied-one-on

by marc w on Sep 24, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like "making bold claims"

never heard that one before.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and hfcs won't affect a hangover very much

if you’re truly hung over, carbonated soda may actually make you feel worse.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I opted for hot chocolate this morning

no caffeine, but delicious nonetheless.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have mexicocoa, with chili powder.

But I’m saving that as I needed the caffeine now.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds intriguing

I’ve never tried that but I might have to.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I lied.

It only has Mexican spices, not the chili. But the stuff with the chili is amazing.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either way, it's something I've never thought of

but it sounds really good. My hot chocolate experimentation tends to end with things like peppermint and cinnamon.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still looking for a source for Tetley Earl Grey...

I love that stuff, but haven’t found it anywhere locally. Tea Lady could probably order it, but I can too. I would just like to indulge in a cup or two of that stuff. I don’t know what it is about Tetley Earl Grey, but I remember it being distinctly good the last time I had it. I drink the Tetley British Blend normally (just filled my cup), which is decently good, but I want some Earl Grey!!!

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Earl Grey, get Ahmad instead

I like Whittard’s of Chelsea as well, but the Tea Lady stopped selling it. They may have stopped selling Ahmad too, which is really just bizarre.
If you like British Blend try PG tips or Lifeboat tea (Tea Lady still sells this) – it’s just got a bit more meat on the bones.

I’ll see if I can find some of my favorite earl greys and give ’em to you.

by marc w on Sep 24, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

We almost stopped at Tea Lady recently...

…but then with the house stuff, we decided that it’s just more to pack and move. Plus we need to hoarde our nickels and dimes as well.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just agreed to stay an extra week at work.

My ladyfriend I have just begun dating is going to be pissed.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 24, 2008 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I didn't say she was wrong to be pissed.

The rig I am working on is coming up on their commission deadline, so they can really use the extra help. I will probably be moving on to a different rig after I get done with this hitch, so I hope to take a little extra time off.

I’ll make it up to her when I pay for her to spend a week in Hawaii with with me this December.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 24, 2008 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn.

I’m jealous. I want to go to Hawaii in December.

by brayden04 on Sep 24, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to go to the Oregon coast in the winter,

but only if a storm is coming.

Some of my favorite memories are from winter vacations to coast hotels and being on the second floor as the storm hit the rocks.

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by Faux on Sep 24, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot to write:

Hawaii is too damn hot.

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by Faux on Sep 24, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

In December it is perfect.

My favorite month to be in Hawaii.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 24, 2008 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

On my list of places to go during the winter....

The Oregon Coast ranks somewhere between Kiev and Yakutsk.

by brayden04 on Sep 24, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Oregon Coast doesn't get to 40 below in the winter

it’s actually quite nice.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

True. It's not as bad as either of those cities

But there are so many more places I’d rather be. Kiev might be better if only because of the quality of women there.

by brayden04 on Sep 24, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's so nice and stormy though.

To find a room on the water and stay inside drinking hot chocolate and watching the waves…

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

My family did that a couple times

albeit the Washington coast, but its a pretty cool thing to do.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the NPR All Songs Considered blog/podcast

is a decent place to catch up with new music and stuff (Sound Opinions is better and less snobbish, though). This week they did a “”http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94872218" target="new">fall music preview“, and I was actually pretty impressed with the tracks they played from the ”http://www.amazon.com/Tell-Tale-Signs-Bootleg-Vol/dp/B001D06SEI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1222272668&sr=8-1" target="new">new Bob Dylan album.

I’m not a huge Dylan fan, especially his more recent stuff, but the two sings I heard here were pretty cool.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Mr. Madison,

what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 24, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good morning, peoples

- Free alcohol is the best until a) death or b) your liver fails.
- Three words: Dim Fucking Sum
- Um… over/under 24 minutes?
- At some point I did a lot of research on casino games. In Spanish 21, they take out the 10’s, jack up the rules of blackjack, and the house edge is like 5.5%, making it one of the worst table games you can play in terms of expectation… which is why the casinos here love it.
- For some reason, I find Full Sail to be a bit skunky. Your mileage may definitely vary.
- I have done a lot of writing, research, practiced my poker game, played Desktop Tower Defense, ate, drank, gone on long walks and slept… not necessarily in that order.
- GONG! I wish some open mike nights were conducted Gong Show style.
- Tip on watching TV at work: don’t
- Europe is catching onto American Football? That’s what they said 15 years ago. Still nothing more than fringe entertainment to them, kind of like what arena football is to us.
- We may take Strasburg #1. We may take Grant Green. Who knows how the FO will twist between now and next June.
- Polar bears and penguins are cooler than kangaroos. In fact they are very cold.
- Synonyms for drunk: drnuk drknu dkrnu etc

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Yahoo sports

always trying to start shit with the NCAA.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

- Free is usually best unless it tastes like piss, aka any macro beer (perhaps excepting High Life if desperate)
- Anything at a bowling alley is likely to taste the same anyway, particularly if you’re drunk
- I think you broke your laptop.
- You pronounce it vienteuno
- Whiskey>Full Sail brews that are only available on tap>my pumpkin ale of last night>my frozen Abita beer>High Life
- Listening to baseball
- I don’t have TV access but I want to watch that Holes show while drinking
-I wouldn’t want to watch it while at work, however
-Europe should stick to European football because it’s better
-Clearly S-Man doesn’t want us
-Sea Otters trump all
-Vienteuno
-I’ll defer to greater minds.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Hooray!

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm envious

My LA-living cousin’s husband just took their 5 year old son to his first pro baseball game, at Dodger Stadium. Early fall, Dodger Stadium, gorgeous night, the home team wins; can’t get much better than that. My first baseball game was at the Kingdome and, although I can’t be bothered to try and remember exactly what game it was, the fact that it was in about 1980 pretty much assures it was a loss.

The romanticism of a first baseball game loses something when you’re in a concrete mausoleum watching a crap team.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

But now that child has to be a Dodger fan.

While I don’t remember my first game, I’m almost certain it was Candlestick. I remember the brightness of the field and I remember how awesome it was to see the players close up. I don’t remember the biting wind or the aesthetics of the stadium. I just remember knowing that this was something that I wanted to be part of (for me, it meant wanting to be a sportscaster, as even then I knew I could never be a woman on an MLB team).

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

My first game was at the Kingdome as well,

And even though it was in a dome, as a five or six year old, you’re still pretty blown away by the whole thing. Plus, it made my first time walking into Safeco and seeing and smelling the fresh cut grass even that more awesome.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. You had no idea it was a 'concrete mausoleum' at that time

It was fucking gigantic, and there was baseball inside it. I thought it was the greatest building in the history of the world.

by marc w on Sep 24, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was definitely awesome as a little kid

At the time, I remember I was more impressed by the massive sea of people – I didn’t even know there were that many people in the world, much less in one place – but then once that novelty wore off I remember pestering my dad throughout the game trying to get him to tell me how high up the top of the Kingdome was.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And by "massive sea" I of course mean about 5000 people

but still, as a 9 year old, that was pretty damn cool.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, yeah, I was never impressed by the sea of humanity

especially since the Kingdome seemed to be full of empty seats, like it was built for a different town/purpose.

But still! I never went to any Seahawks games as a young kid, but just thinking about how THOSE games were always full, and seeing the rows and rows of extra seats that used to sit outside for M’s games and thinking that I was blessed to live in a city that had this temple to Sport.

by marc w on Sep 24, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a little sad that I can't remember my first baseball game.

I think — when I have kids — that I’m going to wait to take them to a game until they reach an age where they’re going to remember it.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss the Kingdome.

That place held a very, very special place in my heart.

Ironically, though, I remember it more for Sonics games than I do M’s games. And they didn’t exactly play that many Sonics games there. But the Seahawks were my team growing up, and I’m fairly certain that part of my hearing issues come from having been there during the 80s heyday. I remember the big screen decibel display, and how we’d ramp it up past “747 taking off…”

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

My DNA is missing the nostalgia gene

so I don’t miss the Kingdome very much. My wife hates that I’m not a nostalgic person, but there we are; the Kingdome was a lot of fun, and I had some great times there, but I wouldn’t trade Safeco for it in a million years.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nostalgia does not mean wanting to trade safeco for the kingdom

That’s called stupidity, not nostalgia.

But certainly you must have fond memories of the place, despite the fact that you know, objectively, that it was a shit hole…. if you do, that’s nostalgia, or at least what I’m thinking of when I use the term.

by marc w on Sep 24, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I absolutely do.

I didn’t realize or care that it was a shithole until I was in my early 20’s. I’m strange, though, I have very fond memories of the events itself, and could care less about the building in which they took place. I know the events couldn’t have happened without the building, but it’s a distinction I’ve always drawn in my mind for some reason.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

My first game was at Kauffman Stadium

That place is still as awesome now as it was then. Maybe even better because they put in real grass.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really want to check that place out here soon

I gotta resume my Baseball Summer roadtrips. I’ve only got about 12 stadia to see (was 8 before Detroit, Philly, and the two new NY stadia).

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dang, you are doing better than I am.

BTW, any trip to Kauffman requires a visit to Gates BBQ.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is being a Dodger fan any worse than being a Mariner fan?

I remember my first game because it was the Kingdome; I also distinctly remember my first outdoor MLB game, because it came much later. Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego. The experience of seeing major league baseball outdoors was a complete thrill, and even though my first trip to Safeco came close, nothing will ever top going to Jack Murphy and seeing that game.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm both.

I’m also a Washington State and South Carolina fan.

Life is miserable.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've developed a pretty thick callous.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know it.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Red-headed stepchild.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take all the money you were going to spend on tickets/parking/beer/etc

and send it to me. I’ll make sure it doesn’t get spent on UCLA football.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's even worse if it gets spent on U of A football or hoops ;)

at least this way, some of the money is going back to my school, amirite?

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I freaking swear, I am not going to any UCLA hoops games this season

and I most certainly am not going to attend an Angels playoff game, like I was considering.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

They want $60-$80 per ticket for almost every game

I went to like five games last season and spent over $350, and that was all trying to buy the cheapest tickets possible, because I was going to sneak into the student section anyway. It’s just not worth it anymore, especially given gas prices (it’s a 200 mile roundtrip from home to Pauley), plus parking, plus it kills a whole weekend whenever I go up.

At least for football, there’s a giant pregame party every week, and the tickets are $17

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good god that's ridiculous

and I always forget that you don’t actually live in LA.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basically, I'd probably go to a game or two if I could get

~$45 tickets and I had friends coming from NorCal or something, but it’s crazy to try and go to all the big games like I did last year.

I’d love to go to the usc game, but I’m just not paying $125/ticket when I paid that same amount for the damn football game.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

And there are times when I wish I still lived in LA

but as soon as I get there, I realize how badly I want to leave

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really like Petco a lot

my personal favorite is PNC – that place got everything right – but Petco’s in my top 5.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

PNC did not get everything right

They opted to host a terrible team

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

But as a Mariner fan it's nothing I'm not used to

and they’re a .500 team in the two games I’ve seen there.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't think a baseball stadium had the capacity to impress me any more

I’ve been so jaded by going to so many of them that they all sorta blend together. But PNC definitely made me go “wow” a lot.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than I am with the Cubs.

The Cubs are 0-5 in games I’ve been to (@ Wrigley)

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 24, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have that same problem with the Giants

I’ve been to Random Phone Company Park twice, and to Candlestick about five times, and I’ve never seen them win.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like RPC Park too, but the wind chill gets me a little bit at night

my favorite game there was definitely seeing the Braves beat the Giants. Chipper (my brothers favorite player, ever) homered, and Greg Maddux gave up like two runs in seven innings.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we don't get Strasburg you can blame me

the Mariners are 5-1 in games I’ve gone to this season.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Note that my first game was at Candlestick.

My anti-team hatreds stem from my childhood being more immersed in the NL.
Despise the Dodgers.
Despise the Braves.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 24, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers at least sort of develop their young talent

although they recklessly traded some of it this year.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bahahaha, my roommate is awesome when looking for cars

he just got a quote on a new ’08 Altima Coupe 3.5SE for 23500. The dealer we talked to last night asked me for 29000 for the same car

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

You could buy a 1990 Dodge Colt for $1700

and put money in my pocket

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should


It’s a beautiful car and I just took it up Mt Baker, back down, then over the North Cascades Pass and back and then down to Tacoma all in one day and it handled very well so I can attest to its reliability

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

also 43 MPG on that trip

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Talking about cars with you amuses me for some reason

because even though you have lots of perfectly rational suggestions, I’m entirely aware that I would almost never follow one

43 MPG sounds rather nice though.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'm going to be selling a 1989 Acura Legend for a USSM reader too

all the bells and whistles on it- I don’t have t he mileage number so I can’t give a price but he says it’s in good shape

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bahahahaha

the real question is how much it would cost to get it to near where I live

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd trust the Colt down to SoCal if you held it at 65 MPH

I’d even deliver it for the price of airfare back

I haven’t seen the Legend yet so I’m not sure there

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

The car was at 18th and Lawrence when I took the picture 3 weeks ago

You have no idea where I currently am

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you used to live there?

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a legitimate fear

See Fogel’s comment below

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

29k for an Altima coupe?

The hell? You might as well buy a MazdaSpeed6 with that kind of scratch. You better get that Altima for under 23k.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the 3.5l coupe

It and the mazdaspeed 6 are both right at 270HP, so it’s not a matter of power. It’s pretty close to me… is Mazda still using Ford engines for the V6? If so, I might go w/the Altima (if I was choosing between the two). I know nothing about the transmissions on either car, but that might make me lean one way or the other.
(All of this assumes that the Altima coupe is avail. in a 6spd manual)

by marc w on Sep 24, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mazdaspeed has always used their own engines, but the standard Mazdas are using the Ford engines

The big problem with the MS6 is… they’re not making it anymore =(. Plus I want a coupe.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This I did not know.

I’m saddened. I always thought the Speed6 was an underrated car and I wish I saw more of it on the roads.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, it's really hard to tell apart the MS6 and the standard 6's because Mazda never put the MS badge on them

the only way to tell was to get in front of it (not likely) and see the elevated hood, or you could tell from the lip spoiler – I’ve never seen a standard 6 with the lip spoiler and it was standard on the MS6. Gorgeous car.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ford is pretty much my least favorite car company...

And I LOVE the Mazda 6. Even their older 626 base models are pretty fun cars to drive.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Speed6, but I like the Altima coupe more.

I really am looking for a coupe anyway, and now that the Altima and Accord coupes have gotten sportier, it’s probably worth it now. Specially if I can get it for 23k or like 23500 with full options

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like Ford either,

but every Ford I’ve ever had ended up being pretty reliable, almost bulletproof. But I still don’t like them, and wouldn’t own one by choice.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've (er...my family has) never ever had any problems with a Ford

They get a lot of bad press but they’re decent little cars, at least in my experience.

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what year you're talking about,

But I’ve seen plenty of them with a Speed6 badge.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really???

I’ve never seen it with the badge, I know they didn’t do it in ‘07, didn’t think they did in ’06 either. Maybe ’05? I thought ’05 was the first production year of the car though

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my neighbor just bought one.

I don’t know what year it is, but it says MazdaSpeed6 on the badge clearly.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point is that it's a gorgeous car

there’s a family around the corner from us that has the following in their driveway – silver IS-F, blue M5, silver Speed6.

I hate them.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's only temporary

They’re redesigning the 6 for 2009. The new MS6 will be out next year as a 2010 model

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it's changed in the last couple of years,

The Speed6 is an Inline-4, not a V6. A common misconception because the most powerful Mazda6 has a V6 in it and is obviously less powerful than its Speed counterpart. Mazda is using their own engines, and while it would be a disappointment if they used a Ford anything in the power train, Ford has made some great strides in reliability in recent years.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

If your choices were the following (assuming I will get to pick color/interior)

Brand new ’08 Altima coupe, standard package – $23300
Used ’08 Altima coupe (2,800 miles), premium package – $24000

which would you take…

Premium package = leather seats, xenon headlights, Bose stereo, integrated bluetooth, and individual climate control. Sells for $3200 on standard new models

Oh yeah, there may be a $1000 discount on the new car.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you intend to drive it into the ground or have it for a couple years and sell it?

If you don’t intend to sell it soon, always go with the used – you get more car for your money.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

New

There’s usually certain warranty stuff that doesn’t transfer from owner to owner so read all fine print

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, I'm aware of this part

I’m just trying to figure out how much leather and the Bose stereo are really worth to me, since I’d probably get the xenon HIDs at some point anyway

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you buy the used car from a dealer?

If so, the warranty stuff Corco refers to probably isn’t so much of an issue.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd go with the used, myself.

You don’t NEED the leather and the Bose stereo, but they’re nice to have, and most dealers have warranties for used cars that are almost as good as their new car ones.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on the MSRP of the used when it was new

I’m not bothering to look it up but if it’s >$3500 then it’s worth it

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The standard Nissan one is 3/36 bumper to bumper and 5/60 powertrain

I’m not sure how that will work with a Mitsubishi dealership. For my Mazda, I just got the standard factory warranty transferred over to my car.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Generally that's the case no matter where you buy it in this day and age

But there might be small specific exclusions that may or may not be important to you

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

More than likely they're negligible

but thanks for the reminder to check on the warranty. That’s always a prudent course of action

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Todd Jones retires

a weary world shrugs and says “Who? ”http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=462319" target="new">oh, him. Right."

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Appropriate

His talent retired years ago.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only reason I know who he is,

is because I enjoy his articles in TSN magazine. It’s always refreshing to read from a player’s point of view.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you ended up at the Roxbury in White Center.

Fun fact about the Roxbury. It has the most authentic Chinese food in Seattle. When they added the casino they decided to pander to the large Asian population that came into the casino. So they paid good money to have a respected chef from Beijing come over and oversee their menu and kitchen. Next time order something you do not recognize. You will be pleased.

Mirror Pond is my favorite beer, but I find Manny’s to be a good replacement.

Seagrams 7 is a good whiskey for shooting or mixing, but not for sipping.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

No wonder so many mini casinos have great Asian food

They’re catering to a demographic! I wondered about that.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sheesh.

Not the ones up north.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is true

It’s mostly the south end joints that do this.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

And by "up north" I meant the Everett area.

I’ve had some okay food at some of the Shoreline area casinos.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

West Seattle Bowl also has a Chinese restaurant attached,

but no casino. Roxbury is owned by the same people who run Magic Lanes, which is ever-so-slightly deeper in White Center, but I don’t think Magic has much Asian food.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 24, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are the women caged?

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or free range?

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Free range.

As long as they don’t get out of their pimps sight.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw this discussion elsewhere

and someone noted that it depended on the diet of the breast milk’s source.

Veganism is too militant for my tastes.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too true

I read an application recently where the reply to the “What is your biggest weakness?” question was … Bacon.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always wondered if Peta is just functionally retarded

or whether things like these are some sort of deadpan practical joke.

9=8

by JI on Sep 24, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go with retarded

Pamela Anderson is a spokesperson for them.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

also I only drink milk from cows and goats

I would not eat ice cream made from humans

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand where t hey are going to find all these women

This would set the feminist movement back about 500 years

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of like... icecream?

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would think so, and ideally, it is

Though there’s a rather… ahem… large contingent of the U.S. population that believes otherwise.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will it be?

Where does it say that?

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Mortgage crisis has finally hit me

Bank just asked me for a written explanation on why my Mailing address is different from my current living address.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

You should see this list of stuff I still need to bring in.

Its absolutely ridiculous.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should be able to have any mailing address you want.

Why does the bank even care? I don’t live in a PO Box.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I currently have 5 active mailing addresses

and none of my banks or creditors have ever said anything to me about it

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you don't own any of those mailing addresses

which means your banks don’t care where you live.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

We manage hundreds and hundreds of properties for people who are still paying mortgages.

And their mailing address for the mortgage company is our office. We’ve yet to have a single mortgage company question it.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're always paranoid about laundering and fraud

They just want to make sure everything’s on the level, especially now.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tax fraud, mostly

If you get busted for tax fraud the IRS puts a lien on your house; if the bank still owns the house they care about liens.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

But they also want a written explanation

Of why my wife made $500 less dollars in 07 then in 06

And need her boss to sign her pay stub because apparently proof of employment isn’t enough

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Problem is I'm a test case for this bank doing FHA loans

And I’m approved for the loan as long as I provide this documentation

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You omitted the part where you were trying to get a loan.

are you applying for an FHA loan? They’re a lot tighter with their requirements than private lenders are.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well normally I wouldn't care about providing this stuff.

Except that the underwriter had the loan on her desk since last Thursday and I was just informed today that I need this stuff to finalize the loan.

I’m suppose to close this Friday FYI

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you get them the stuff they'll either close it Friday or extend it a couple days

once they start the ball rolling it goes pretty quick, it’s getting it rolling that poses the problem with the FHA.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Sounds like the bank is going to sign off on it without the FHA stamp. And if FHA doesn’t stamp it then the bank will just be the lender under the same loan agreement.

A extension wouldn’t be so much of a issue if I wasn’t dealing with the most impossible seller.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, good luck!

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

wrong

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No offense, but:

FAIL.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

fucking chuck norris...

Looks for door

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

FHA *SHUDDERS*

When we were battling with our buyers, the thing that I kept coming back to was that if we indeed busted this transaction, we’d have the likelihood of having to deal with FHA if we were lucky enough to get a 4th offer on our house. The fact that our buyer was going conventional weighed very, very heavily on the decision to keep him happy.

I’d be going batshit insane if I had to deal with the extra FHA scrutiny — yes, as a seller — on top of the other crap that’s been thrown at us lately.

While FHA has its advantages, it’s certainly a lot harder to deal with for EVERYONE involved…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But FHA saves me about $300 a month of my payment.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That much??

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya its crazy

Being a test case got me some extra discounts.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's totally different then.

They are trying to figure out if you are buying this to be a rental property more than likely.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder who's selling this house

You may want to look them up and see if they’ve been in or are having any trouble.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are they offering you tickets?

I wonder when Dodgers tickets go on sale, or did I miss that?

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They want me to participate in "Ten Questions with Rex Hudler"

and “Vote for Justin Speier and be an MVP!”

Also I should “go see my Angels in Seattle this week!”

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank jeebus they haven't emailed me

and I bought tickets through their website.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The apocaplypse is nigh.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't find the link right now

but during the Olympics some guy that was a target shooter got busted for PED’s. Why a stationary person needs PED’s is beyond me.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Super vision.

Or telekinesis. Either one.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the horse or the rider?

either way, that’s very strange.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what, screw you

my friend lost a spelling bee to some roided up twelve year old, OK? This is kind of a sensitive subject.

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

My cousin was killed by one.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to go with rock-paper-scissors tournaments

but those bastards are all on the juice.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was it this guy?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Solipcism... S... O... L... GRAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Uh oh, Nancy, looks like we’ve got a little Merriam-Webster roid rage!

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So the Rangers are up 13 to 2 in the 6th

after scoring 8 runs in this inning, still up with 2 out.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 24, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

The compact disc was introduced in 1982. The DVD was introduced in 1997.

We’ve had optical digital media for over 25 years, and optical digital video media for 11 years. So why is it that people still return DVDs coated with fingerprints and scratches (that weren’t there when the disc went out) and expect me to credit their account? Are people really that incapable of properly handling DVDs?

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

And when pointed out to them, they will inevitably claim that “someone else did it”.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

"But you were the first person to rent it."

“Well, someone that works here must have handled it improperly.”
 
OR (my personal favorite)

“It’s not my fault that your products are so delicate. People shouldn’t have to be that careful with DVDs. I mean, how am I supposed to avoid touching the disc?”

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Include helmets.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another conversation that I love:

“This disc skips, you need to take it out of circulation.”
“Well, there’s just a smudge/minor scratch/some gunk on the disc. I’ll give you a credit, but it doesn’t need to be taken out of circulation. We’ll clean it and it should be fine.”
“No, you need to get a new one. It skips.”
“Yes, but we have a very expensive machine that can fix that.”
“You need to start listening to your customers. People shouldn’t have to deal with discs that skip.”
“When we fix it, it won’t skip.”
“I don’t believe you.”

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

&@#$%*&@

People piss me off.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the best customer service tips I ever got

Never explain anything. Agree as if you are going to do what they want and then do what you know needs to be done.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my motto.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can always pull it out of the garbage later though

Just make sure you put it back in the case before you do so

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've got a point.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There ya go.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do that type of thing all the time in accounting as well.

Just tell ‘em what they want to hear, they don’t need to know how you’re going to make it happen. There is a comedian (the guy from King of Queens) who does a great bit about this using the people at the airline ticket counters as an example.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assholes

Tell them you must return it to the vendor for future credits or some bullshit like that.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I use everyone else's as coasters.

I keep mine pristine. Strangely, nobody ever loans me anything any more.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brother is a Tech Genius and leaves all my DVD's and 360 Games just out and about.

So the answer is yes people are completely incapable of handling DVDs

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just as well

it’s hard to fold these laserdiscs so they fit in the cassette slot anyway.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you tried them on phonograph?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

My basement?

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forget I'm one of the fogies.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then...

What were we talking about?

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who?

I don’t recall anything about deceased castration…

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahah

what do you call this thing? A video-cassette-recorder or some bullshit?

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I refuse to acknowledge evil magic devices

if it can’t fit into a flip book, I don’t want to see it movin’.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

People are lazy and do these things on purpose

It’s like people who would return VHS tapes without rewinding them first

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is interesting

in Oregon, traffic laws say there’s no functional difference between a yellow light and a red light. Most states consider a yellow light a warning that a red is coming, but allow drivers and bikers to proceed, but Oregon’s yellows are to be treated like red lights unless it’s not safe to stop. I never knew that.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not saying that anybody here actually does it

I’m just interested in the fact that Oregon traffic law sees red and yellow as the same.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Driving consistency, maybe?

every state uses red-yellow-green, so if OR were to be the exception it would cause driving havoc. I don’t know.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe my Dad wrote that law

Since he in fact does see red and yellow as the same.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't really "go colorblind",

It’s something you’re born with, I think.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe it can happen as you get older

but yes, in hindsight, this response didn’t make all that much sense

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

My grandfather was black and white color blind.

He could see a frickin’ mile in the dark. I don’t think he had trouble with traffic lights because apparently back then everything was black and white.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome comment, knowing you.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just watch out for the crank start, a backfire can break your arm.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a lovely tint for history.

My dad has a sepia tone collection of baseball photos. I think I’ve spotted a couple of your photos posted here. Link to a on-line collection?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

A few of my faves...

I don’t really have many on my Flickr, but my photog site has a bunch.

Safeco Field - Sepia Lomo

Bedard Pitch (Sepia)

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet. Has "Boys of Summer" stamped all over 'em.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Dad was born that way

Thankfully I have not inherited that from him.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of your lawn?

How can I make one of that when I’m required to stay off it??

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll give you a quarter to mow it, sonny

but then you’ll have to listen to all my stories.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, those were the days

Plinko was added as a Price Is Right game…the last episode of MASH…The Day After aired…Manimal.

Wikipedia is awesome.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My god I loved M*A*S*H.

And WKRP in Cincinnati.

Three’s Company.
Mork and Mindy.
Bosom Buddies.
Happy Days.

And so on.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

MASH verges on the unwatchable for me

it’s so damn preachy and annoying. WKRP is one of the best sitcoms ever.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember Les Nessman?

The weatherguy with the running gag? Had that band-aid on his head, different spot every episode. Holy cow I’m old.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wish they'd get the music rights thing fixed

the DVD’s now have to use license-free music because they couldn’t get rights to all the rock songs in the original show. Kinda wrecks it. But it’s still an awesome show.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh God that sucks.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it makes it tough to watch

because all the rock songs are now sorta easy-listening type things, but if you can overlook that it’s a fantastic comedy still.

As god is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here.

Classic

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Video is no longer available. Dang.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot about that one. Excellent!

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit. I actually had that bookmarked.

Can’t find it on youtube – gimme a sec…

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Here

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Understood (without ZOMG),

but I find Alan Alda one of the most underrated actors of his time.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll back you up on the M*A*S*H love

I’ve got a few seasons on DVD, and my online gamer handle is Five O’Clock Charlie.

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 24, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Day After show freaked me out for years

I was too young to watch that show when I did. My parents didn’t let me at first, but I watched it a little later.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch it again...

it’s actually just as disturbing. I just watched it about a month ago after only having seen it when it was on in ’83, and it still has a lot of power.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I did watch it a year or so ago, and yes, it still creeped me out.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The V (or Visitors) freaked me out.

As did that docudrama Amerika about USSR attacking.

(I know, but it’s not politics, it’s about a show from the 80’s)

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

never saw Amerika

but the V movie did trip me out. Never really watched the series though.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Day After was like our generations War of the Worlds.

Or something like it’s slightly lesser cousin I suppose. Pretty gruesome especially for the era it played. Never saw Amerika, but Red Dawn….

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched Red Dawn again a few months ago.

It didn’t have the same effect on me now as it did then. It didn’t age very well.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I refuse to revisit it. Which is hard to do.

Offshore guys have suitcases full of movies. Literally thousands. But that movie defined an era for me in the ’80’s (full definition includes loads of evil politics), which forever stained my youth and clouded the way in which I view the world. Mid-western kids kicking Commie ass is awesome. WOLVERINES!!

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I hadn't.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Commies! BAD!

…or so 80’s flicks made me believe.

I had a real eye opener when I went to Germany in 1989. I was sitting in on an English class in the Gymnasium (German equivalent of high school, pretty much), and they were having a debate about Communism and Russians, etc. It was the first time that I’d actually heard any sort of rational/reasonable discussion as to why the Russians weren’t actually evil people and why Communism wasn’t necessarily terrible. I was amazed that they were talking about it freely and honestly debating both sides, not just saying “Bad Commies! Bad Russians!” and leaving it at that.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did the same thing myself...

I was actually quite disappointed in this — it used to be one of my favorite movies.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I remember distinctly:

Sneaky Commie bastards ATTACK!
Patrick Swayze in full on ‘80s mode.
Jennifer Gray.
Patrick Swayze being “dramatic”.
Dead Commie oppressors.
Jennifer Gray.
Wolverines! on burned out Commie tanks.
Jennifer Gray.
“We stopped them butt cold right HERE!”
Dead Commie’s in heaping bloody piles.
“I got you Manny, I got you!”

I nominate it for one of the top Hollywood propaganda movies never made intentionally.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's the law in Idaho too

I prefer in many foreign countries where they do the flashing green to indicate a yellow which makes it easier to then use a yellow in the Oregon fashion

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by Corco on Sep 24, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I call your bluff.

There is no law in Idaho!

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That one worked out nicely for me last time I was in Oregon

it was like 2 am and freezing, so glad I didn’t have to stand outside and pump gas.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They never seem to get the tank full though.

That’s what I always hated. Especially on my Mustang I had, I needed a FULL tank to get back home from Portland.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I watched the season premiere of Heroes last night

and it was…kinda dumb. I hope the rest of the season gets more interesting.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that the one where kids discover super powers?

I’m into the Shield right now. Can’t… get… my…. netflix fast enough. I think my postman is opening them and watching them in his truck.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Captain Planet?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoosh. Requires explanation.

While you’re at it, maybe give me the quick rundown on Player A and [coathanger]. Either they are not in wiki or my search skills suck even more than I thought.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, early '90's was a blur.

Either sleeping in a car under the Alaska Way Viaduct or downtown Hostel to catch music shows, followed by bootcamp and 4 years of disassociated life.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Player A is Scott Speizio

Someone complained about Gomez using the term abortion in a post so he replaced it with coathanger.

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. There's so much I'd like to say about the Gomez thing.

But it’s probably without doubt been said already.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he is. I must be remembering a different failed search.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That link didn't work, I've been meaning to check out Robot Chicken.

This was located in the menu when I clicked your link. Just skip to 1:00, pretty funny fail.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's hilarious / painful!

I wonder why my link didn’t work? I double checked it and everything.

Let’s try again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNci-acbil4

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just go to youtube and search "captain planet robot chicken"

It’s the fourth entry on the list.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, planning on it later after the first one didn't do anything.

I’ve been hearing about that show for a bit now, references pop up all over the place. Figure if it’s popping up in this Shady Acres Retirement Home for the Incontinent Blogger, then it must be hip. Or fresh. Whatever the kids these days are saying.

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by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much any Robot Chicken clip will work really.

Unless you’re easily offended, then I’d be careful.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off-color humor has it's place. I'm glad you reminded me of R.C.

I avoid it like the plague around here, meaning I dose out some flu once in a blue moon, but avoid full out bubonic mode. Mixed crowd, I hate minefields. And having to make overblown explanations of comments, and blah blah blah. Minefield.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean.

I’ll throw something out there now and then, but for the most part I just try to avoid the trouble it could cause.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're not kids, but yeah

One of them’s a HS cheerleader, but it’s basically a story where all sorts of people discover they have superpowers – and each person has different powers. This season’s not starting off so well.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I skipped the second season

and the third so far is pretty zzz.

Too many characters and storylines.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I thought they were going to kill off the woman that kills with her eyes

The storyline with her and Suresh really almost made me stop watching last night. And the fact that there are now a cadre of escaped villains like Sylar doesn’t make me happy either – it’s going to turn into a “let’s get the villain of the week” thing, I fear, which will make it boring.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

To borrow from Buddy Pine...

When everyone’s a Hero — NO ONE is…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say nothing specific about the Newcastle-Tottenham Cup match today

but the Guardian’s minute-by minute match commentary had a hilarious start. For those who don’t know, watching Newcastle play Tottenham is like watching the Mariners play the Royals – both teams are pretty bad right now. Newcastle are waaaaaaaaaaay more shambolic, though, and the minute-by-minute for today’s match started thusly:

1 min: Kick-off was taken by Newcastle … successfully!

it’s really sad when your very existence is fodder for comic material.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Quick cup primer

Champions League – the one everyone wants to be in. The best 2-3 teams in every country in Europe, playing for a big shiny trophy and a large pile of cash. Same format as the World Cup – groups of four teams in the first round, knockout in the last 16.

UEFA Cup – used to be the one everyone wanted to be in, now it’s the one nobody cares about. The next best 2-3 teams from every country, playing for a slightly smaller trophy and some pocket change. Same format as CL.

FA Cup – open to every professional team in England (92 teams eligible). Straight knockout, like the NCAA basketball tournament. The big boys don’t start play until the 3rd round.

Carling Cup – secondary English cup competition. Has been called the League Cup, Coca-Cola Cup, Worthington Cup, and a billion other things; is seen as an inconvenience by most teams and is currently used by the bigger teams to give their kids a game. It’s completely irrelevant.

I tend to think that the Carling Cup should be open to only non-Premiership teams, and that the winner should get a UEFA Cup place, but that’s just me.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, once the big four/five started playing the kids

the Carling Cup sorta became superfluous. It’d be nice to have a cup competition where teams really want to be in it, and that doesn’t have arsenal/man u/chelsea/liverpool in it.

that said, Arsenal’s kids won 6-0 in their Carling Cup game yesterday, so viva youth!

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Early versions of Championship Manager had a mode like this

Where all the division 2/3/conference teams played for a separate Cup.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to give my brother in law a lot of crap

because in Japan the Altima (he has a 99 Altima) is sold as the Nissan Bluebird. even though he’s not like some sort of über-dude, who doesn’t normally care about these things, he still got really annoyed when I told him he drove a “bluebird”.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm totally OK with driving a Bluebird

as long as it looks like this and puts down 270 at the crank =)

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, his 99 doesn't look like this.

It looks more like this.

Photobucket

I’ll take the new one please.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, I wouldn't get a four-door, even the new ones

I’d never get an Altima except the coupe (which I love, because I wanted the old model G35, which is now out of my price range and production, so this is the next best thing)

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've actually gotten to the point where I prefer four doors to coupes,

just because I end up with multiple people in my car quite a bit, so access is easier.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

True.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care if they are comfortable,

I just get sick of them tripping on the seatbelts on the way into the back seat.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try having a third row as well.

Depnding on who’s riding with you, you can start to feel the load.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the house I'm buying having a 3-car garage...

I badly want my SL500 now. Too bad I won’t have the cash to buy one…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 24, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks Hummers are lame?

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

(this’ll test the Corco-self-boxing)

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant no, you're not, by the way

didn’t mean to sound like I was shutting it down.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once after one of our shows in Pioneer Square,

I dove into the back of a Hummer limo waving a comically oversized sex toy that someone had brought to the show for laughs. The limo was packed with horrified sorority girls.

Ahh, memories.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's awesome.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite Pioneer Square story:

I was giving a friend a ride back to her apartment right as all the bars were closing. There was a brand new (like still had the dealer plates new) SL500 Roadster full of young businessmen at the light in front of us. As soon as the light turned green and the car pulled away, homedude in the back just lets fly. Vomit all over the side of the car, the top of the door, and down into the car itself. I would kill for a picture.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Way to go homeskillet.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't the plan, but okay.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

see above comment

I didn’t mean to shut down the whole line of discussion – a more long winded reply by me would have been “No, I don’t think you’re the only one – Hummers ARE lame. By the way, this will really test the Corco self-boxing from earlier”.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No worries.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I certainly hope not

Hummers are the one expensive motor vehicle that I would never, under any circumstance purchase, unless I stood to make an immediate and sizable profit

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the Hummer

The H1 is completely pointless, but the H2 and H3 are really no different than other SUV’s. I still wouldn’t pay the premium just to get the “Hummer” name and look though. Give me a Chevy Tahoe, it’s the same damn thing.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The H1 is the only one that's cool at all, since it was never intended to be a road vehicle

H2 and H3 are ridiculously stupid, they kill gas, and aren’t even close to as awesome as Escalades. If I was going to get an SUV (and I doubt I would ever drive an SUV), I would just trick out an Escalade

by seattlebruin on Sep 24, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again, give me a Chevy Tahoe,

it’s the same thing, just cheaper. Personally my “big” Hyundai “SUV” is about as far as I’ll go unless I had some serious legitimate need for something bigger.

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by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

School bus.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My stove top percolator is AWESOME on a gas range.

I’m so glad I went with natural gas in the kitchen. Couldn’t get the temp just right and/or constant enough on an electric range, burned the coffee nearly everytime. I’ve been jittery with the caffeine shakes since yesterday, I can’t stop drinking coffee.

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by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking news:

Clay Aiken announces to the world he’s gay!

Gasp! Who’s next, Lance Bass???

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Topical thin ice alert

I know, it’s shocking news, but this sort of thing rarely ends well.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Send in dpseadv.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are you kidding? I HATE cold water!

Which is why I like the GOM. Half the time I dive in coveralls, it’s like a bathtub until you get below 150 ft.

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by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please tell me I'm not the olny one

geeky enough here to know what a Drow is?

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by Faux on Sep 24, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was afraid to make a joke about it!

Yeah, I played.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

It’s just all over the papers for some damned reason.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This quote says more about Felix then Matthews Jr
• Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr. figures to see some playing time today as he has hit Felix Hernandez hard in the past. Matthews is 15-for-38 (.395) against King Felix with three homeruns. Hernandez’s mid-nineties heat has been ineffective against Matthews Jr. as Gary is hitting .458 (11-for-24) against them. King Felix has had success with his off-speed stuff, holding Matthews to 3 hits in 14 at-bats with 11 strikeouts against those offerings.

You may gain some yards on the ground, but eventually Lofa will end up biting you in the ass.

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 24, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Not Gary in particular

Just stupid people and their obsession with small sample sizes in batter/pitcher matchups.

“Oh man! Miguel Cairo is 5 for 7 lifetime against John Lackey! Let’s bat him cleanup tonight!”

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 24, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are there multicolored paper clips?

are people’s daily lives so bereft of inspiration and joy that they think their choice of a green paper clip or a blue one says something about their personality? Or that a paper clip CAN say something about someone’s personality?

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

These bother me to no end.

Paperclips go on professional documents, thus should look as such.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm just not the kind of person

that thinks that everything one uses or owns has to be, can be, or is an expression of one’s personality. Which makes me a rarity in these touchy-feely days.

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by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you, say my playful brightly colored shoestrings.

(No, I don’t actually own brightly colored shoestrings)

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by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I had custom shoestrings

chances are they’d actually say FUCK YOU on them. That’s a great idea. That’ll teach people to ask about my choice of accessory.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's it.

Paperclips that say FUCK YOU.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now we're talking.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Years ago at an old job,

we would stretch out another employee’s rubber bands, and write disgusting things on them. When back to normal size, you could barely tell, and either they would get a shock when they bundled something, or more hilariously, they wouldn’t notice, and send it as a package to someone else.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is an awesome idea

and it annoys me I’ve never thought to do that.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amen to that.

I’m going to start practicing right now.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I've made 3 Pandora Radio stations

without hearing Coldplay.

I am awesome.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

The law of averages will soon catch up to you my doomed friend

and it’ll be three Coldplay songs an hour for an entire day.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that happens

I’ll just go back to Last.fm.

One of my stations did get pretty off track yesterday, it was annoying.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 24, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need suggestions for movies that are really fucked up.

Not “dark”, like actually “holy shit that was fucked up” movies. I’ve got Oldboy, Irreversible, I stand Alone, Palindromes, Happiness and Funny Games so far.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not a movie person

But is it bad that I have seen none of the movies you listed?

by Sec 108 on Sep 24, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 24, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oldboy is the only one I would actually recommend.

I like Happiness and Palindromes, but they’re really, really, really fucking unpleasant. The other ones I haven’t seen or didn’t like.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brazil and Delicatessen are my choices.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 24, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you've got Irreversible in there, I'm voting it's a complete list.

That movie was beyond the pale. Remove the 10 minutes (you know the ones I’m talking about) and it’s a crap Memento ripoff or something. I wish I’d never watched that movie.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ice Storm

In The Company Of Men
The Shape Of Things

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 24, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you seen Irreversible?

Nothing in any of those movies can touch it.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 24, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry I read this thread now, I'd forgotten that film. It's an image I'd rather not have in my brain.

Nothing I’ve ever seen has made me look away so quickly. Real life included. Not the kind of thing I look for in cinema. The girl with the red dress in Schindler’s List used to bother me, but at least that was a great movie.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was an LL thread a few months ago

were we all got together and talked about how much Schindler’s List made us cry. Then Coach showed up and Coach’d the entire thing.

by BrianL on Sep 24, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to look for it, I'm still looking to define the phrase 'Coach'd'.

Tragedy, pain, and failure are often things I consider fodder for comedy. But the 2 movies in question just took things to a different level entirely and in completely different artistic ways (lacking a proper phrase there). All my personal opinion though so it’s not exactly an important distinction to anyone else.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach'd: See: FuBAR'd

I find tragedy, pain, and failure in film to be hilarious quite often. Then Schindler’s List came along and made me cry in the middle of a Holocaust Studies classroom filled with sniggering high school freshmen.

Oh here’s the scene that did it! I could have done more.

by BrianL on Sep 25, 2008 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the time that scene came up I was so emotionally wrung out I was kind of done.

The scene where they show the pile of bodies, and the red dress is peaking out just destroyed me. And now I have kids, so I just don’t have the ability to watch anything remotely like that. At all.

“Elephant”. I love Gus Van Sant, he has only lost me maybe once or twice. This movie was a fucking emotional nuclear holocaust. Like the odd girl out in the locker room, and then when she’s the first to get hit, in the library. Jesus christ I wish I’d never seen that movie. I had forgotten how cruel school was, and people can be to each other until watching that movie.

This is kind of weird, but the movie “8 Seconds”, about Lane Frost (played by Luke Perry, which is also why this is weird). When his father is watching video of Lane at the end of the movie, after Lane was killed. He starts sobbing and says “I never told him I loved him”. Probably more of a background thing and relating to the characters, maybe. Your clip reminded me of that, and before anybody jumps on me, yes I realize the scale is completely different. And the quality/artistic import of the film.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 25, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know this is way late,

but what about anything by Takashi Miike?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 25, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've got Audition and Ichi the Killer.

You could obviously go with more, but I’d like to keep it to two max per director.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 25, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So for my Business Technology 100 class

I have to buy a copy of Office 2007 Professional. Yes, that Office 2007. The one that sucks because it is not Office 2003.

No, I will not buy a copy of Office 2007. Fuck you Edmonds Community College.

I will pirate a copy of Office 2007.

by BrianL on Sep 24, 2008 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

It's times like these I wish I was in the NW.

I can’t drop it online, but I have a copy I got from my GFs school that doesn’t have a lic.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 24, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

UW, one day, suddenly installed Office 2007 on all the computers at the library in mid-quarter

I went to print a paper that night, and over 20 minutes got very, very angry. Using MS Office should not be a fucking logic puzzle.

by Gomez on Sep 24, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Stupid boss

(I have two bosses, one smart boss that is tech savvy and one stupid boss that used to be tech savvy) insisted that we “upgrade” the office to Office 2007 because the fellows at Microsoft said it was a vastly superior platform.

Smart boss: “I’d replace all of our computers with IBM 386s loaded with DOS and WordPerfect before I would go to Office 2007.”

Dumb boss : “But it’s a better system!”

Smart boss: “Bullshit. Besides, can you imagine the company-wide outrage if we installed Office 2007? Can you imagine all the support calls we’d be getting?”

by BrianL on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This isn't true.

With not much training, most people get it. I had about 3/4 calls a day for the first week, but after that things leveled off. The biggest problems I had were-
Getting people to use the 2007 formats. Using the 03 files in 07 causes some problems.
Getting people to downsave to 03 for outside clients, and teaching people how to use the PDF addin.

My office is fairly stupid, as well.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 25, 2008 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Typing and printing what you type is easy

It’s relearning the arrangement of all the fucking menus for formatting that’s a giant pain in the ass.

I might’ve been fine with it if I wasn’t in a pinch. I had like 20-30 minutes to format, print and head to class.

by Gomez on Sep 25, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is most people's problem, actually.

They didn’t bother to look around, and then when they absolutely needed it, they didn’t know where it was and all of a sudden it was an emergency call.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 25, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm, that came out sort of bad.

Much like my answer above it was more directed at Brian than you. Take it in the best way possible.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 25, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Business Technology 100, day one

An Introduction to your computer. Here’s what your monitor is for…

by BrianL on Sep 24, 2008 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh boy!

Now I get to venture into the internet to download a picture!

by BrianL on Sep 24, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the techno savvy kids grow up with, this sounds like a big pile of bullshit.

But then that kind of thought process made higher education difficult for me. Good luck with that.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

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