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Today's offtop, now with less tags than the last.

Possible topics of discussion could or could not include:

  • We're outsourcing our plethora of school shootings to Finland. What's the conversion rate to euros?
  • I saw 50 Cent in the whitest part of a rich white suburb in NJ today, looking for a place to shoot a movie. Discuss possible implications on sell-outness, and the likelihood for a Method Man-like movie about golf and country clubs. Show your work.
  • It's the last week of Mariner baseball. Does this make you happy or sad? Are there any memories of this year you'd like to share with the class?
  • I still hate Carl Everett. He didn't even show up at the game I went to just to heckle him.
  • Which is better, Ghostbusting or Ghostriding?
  • Is LEGO batman really necessary?
  • How is BrianL's wrist injury going to effect his posting stats? Feel free to speculate on your LL fantasy team's chances w/o him at top form. I for one predict an uptick in his House% after the Dr visit.

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Updated Title to fix misspellings.

 

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It's only softcore.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my goodness I'm awake.

First morning shift in five years.

by Teej on Sep 23, 2008 7:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Right now it's green Superfood.

I stopped drinking caffeine for the most part early this year.

by Teej on Sep 23, 2008 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I already did that twice

Monday is the new Thursday!

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monday IS the new Thursday

I’m already on Cup Of Tea #4 and I think I may hit double digits by the end of the day.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got 3.5 hours of sleep last night

so the tea isn’t really a nicety at this point, it’s a life support system.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually had a reason to be drinking, somewhat sadly

I’ll call it an unfortunately necessary celebration and leave it at that

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My condolences.

A friend of mine took his own life several years ago. We also all got together and had a night of heavy drinking to remember him.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sucks

I’m sorry to hear that.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, that bites!

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Cave show last night

and I thought that vodka and red bull would keep me going. Which it did. But this morning I think I should have just had the red bull portion of the beverage.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking to hear the story myself.

Maybe when he gets his head out of the toilet.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was absolutely stellar

The Bad Seeds are one of the most ferocious live bands you’ll ever see. The set list was a great mix of the new record (probably played 8 of the songs off it) and stuff going all the way back to Your Funeral, My Trial; it wasn’t a “Nick Cave Greatest Hits” set per se, but he did hit a lot of the high points. The set closer was an absolutely murderous version of Stagger Lee; how a man that small wrings such intensity and power from that little frame I’ll never know.

It doesn’t replace seeing The Fluid as my show of the year, but it’s pretty damn close.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, as an added bonus,

the Crystal was so packed that I kept getting stepped on all night by people coming and going past me. Sigh. But, overall, it was well worth it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're drinking grass?

How does that stuff taste? I’ve never had the opportunity to try it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's delicious.

It’s creepy because it’s green, but it’s more of a kiwi and apple taste than a veggie taste. I have a pretty low tolerance for gross stuff that’s supposed to be good for you, but this stuff’s awesome.

by Teej on Sep 23, 2008 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, there's a store down the street that sells it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeremy Shockey out 3 to 6 weeks, aggrivated hernia.

(sigh) Paint the walls with my brains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 7:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am convinced that I did something terrible in a past life.

That is the only thing can explain why my sports teams all blow ass.

Maybe the Hornets can break the spell next season.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neat timing

I just got the press release at work over this one.

I don’t like exclusivity contracts on devices, but Apple started this latest war, so let’s have at them…

There are more of us than you think --- P3 W1 L2 (.333)
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by MarkE on Sep 23, 2008 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then switch to T-Mob

N’est pas?

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by MarkE on Sep 23, 2008 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surely you can port a number across?

I don’t know what the deal is over there, but in the UK you can xfer a number over relatively trouble-free (and cost free) between networks.

Mariner fan, Europhile and mobile insider --- P3 W1 L2 (.333)
Sponsor of Jamie Burke's baseball-reference page

by MarkE on Sep 23, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Untrue these days

As long as you satisfy your Verizon contract, the day that contract is up you are free to take that number to whatever carrier you see fit.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you not friends enough to pay $175?

because for the low low price of $175 Verizon will let you walk away from that contract.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn it, that's almost the cost of a plane ticket, so no.

Also too many people I know have Verizon, allowing me free minutes and texts with them.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the problem

Verizon has me stuck in their stupid hole because of that

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You signed the contract willingly, right?

Thus you are not “stuck” in anything you did not yourself do.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well right

I just hate them but they have left me with no better option

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My problem is that 90% of the calls I make are to other Verizon phones

So it’s not really economical for me to switch

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're not stuck, then

I don’t mean to pick on you, I just hate when people say they’re “stuck” with something when there are in fact options. Verizon, as megamondo corporations go, is one of the more benign; it gives you (well, sells you, I guess) what you need, so it fits your needs.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm aware of this

I just like to whine

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Southwest Airlines as well.

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you checked Lafayette airport prices?

I think as a sub hub regional thing, they get subsidized. But then there is the cost of getting TO Lafayette from wherever you’re at, so it probably would wash out anyway.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figured as much.

Thought it might be worth mentioning. My company’s office is Baton Rouge, and they usually use docks in Morgan City, so Lafayette is the only airport down there I’m familiar with.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Despite my general dislike for anything Southern,

I can’t say I dislike Biloxi. I work a bunch of casino shows down there a year, and the all the people I’ve talked to on my morning runs (through the rubble for the last few years, unfortunately)seem better than the average southerner.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From a sample size of about 30 casino shows and about 150 morning runs,

I dislike Baton Rouge and Tunica much more. Biloxi at least has a small-town thing going for it that the others lack.

Wait, am I really defending a piece of the south to acblue? Didn’t we already have this discussion from opposite sides?

And for further discussion, what is the relationship between Biloxi and Gulfport? The airport is in Gulfport, but everyone calls it the Biloxi airport. Guilt by association?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biloxi and Gulfport are across the water from each other, aren't they?

Or wait…I don’t know. There’s only like 60 miles of Mississippi Coast.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biloxi is on the penninsula.

Gulfport is a little west. But everything there is Biloxi, even in “downtown” Gulfport.

Both towns still look like 3rd world countries as of the last time I was there, though. It really sucks that the casinos there didn’t help rebuild, they just got their permits they wanted and started up again.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares if they don't appreciate it - you can still do it.

Both carriers just need to serve the same area. That undoubtedly applies in your case, right?

Read here….

If you’re still under contract w/Verizon, yeah, you may need to pay a termination fee, but you can port the number.

by marc w on Sep 23, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I've got a hairline fracture in my wrist as well as some rather nasty bruising and swelling.

Thankfully the doctor gave me one of those nifty soft casts. I can actually type with this thing.

by BrianL on Sep 23, 2008 7:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So you're saying it's not lupus?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, it's never lupus.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to the recap in pictures of Jeff's firstborn's birthing.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, I take that back.

I don’t want to see the clown little-Jeff that will follow.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man that sucks. The way you dropped that from left field last night was a trip.

I’m used to cracking on people when they are hurt or sick, and receiving the same in return, but my peer group is… something. Anyway, seriously. Hope that heals up for you quickly. Unless Robert is the saxophone player. If that’s the case, then hope it’s your non-dominate hand and best of luck with that.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adonde vas?

(since we’re being bilingual around here)

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly, I don't have any Spanish to brush up on.

I’ll have to try to get by on my hybrid German-Italian.

by Phildopip on Sep 23, 2008 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Nicaragua, we shared a taxi with someone making his way through the country

who only spoke German and a tiny bit of Italian. I have no idea how he made it—it’s not as though Nicaragua is full of resorts catering to Germans.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jawohl!

(waves hands around as if he’s speaking Italian)

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh hell.

The Seattle PI has caught on to Strasburg.

by BrianL on Sep 23, 2008 7:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love this quote:
“The Nationals are one of the worst offensive teams (in history),” ESPN.com baseball writer Jayson Stark said. “For the Mariners, it’s going to take a big effort to score less than the Nationals because they flat-out cannot score.”

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the best nline.
One more request: When you make the Nissan Shift to the Bullpen, bring in Miguel Batista every time.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow! Washburn isn't a total douche after all!
Asked if it’s wrong for a Mariners’ fan to root for the Mariners to lose so they can get the No. 1 pick, Jarrod Washburn said: “Nope, I don’t think so at all. Realistically, what else do they have to root for at this point in the season? I can’t fault them for that.”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

We can’t possibly trade Washburn

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly.

Aside from that Kenji thing, Washburn has been cool the whole time.

by ThundaPC on Sep 23, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sad that we're arguing that we suck more.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

50 cent can't be a sellout

He’s following the Diddy path to megastardom, which means he ‘sold out’ years ago. secondary question: Is there even such a thing as “selling out” any more? Isn’t that what all mainstream artists want/aspire to do?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All musical fame ends with selling out

All of it. When you sign a contract or head out to tour, you have technically sold out: you have sold your services to a contractor.

Well, enslaved yourself, if you really look at record deals, but that’s a whole other issue.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back in my day, though,

“selling out” meant more than that – back in the 80’s/early 90’s it was very much the exception, not the rule, that artists sold their stuff to commercials/tv shows/movie trailers/whatever else. So there was always a certain stink to rampant commercialism via music, where these days that’s not necessarily the case. So to me “selling out” means “Verizon Presents So-And-So” when So-and-So could just as easily go on tour without corporate sponsorship.

I don’t actually think that such sponsorship would STOP me from seeing So-And-So, but still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It won't and shouldn't stop most people

It’s just a fact of life these days that, for a musical act to make any money, they have to peddle their services one way or another.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I realized that the sell-out comment would get attention, but it was more a homage to all the Ice Cube fueled discussion in the past…

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I know

And I don’t vilify people who sell out: it’s a choice that has its benefits and consequences like any important decision.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

These days, bands prefer to do things themselves.

Even though Kasabian has some great music, should they be considered sell-outs for getting paid to be on a Madden soundtrack? The days of signing bonuses are on rapid decline. Bands (especially hip hop groups) would receive a huge signing bonus, go out and spend it on fancy homes and cars, not realizing that they were expected to pay that sum back with album sales (or were overly optimistic about their projected sales and realized they were in trouble).
Bands are beginning to market themselves much better, through video games, indie film, and social networking sites.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm not a big purist any more

I’m actually glad bands can go their own route these days, and smaller bands can get themselves heard a lot more via these sales/marketing opps. Not a bad thing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I'm a fan,

but I figure if you’ve been shot over eight times, you get a bit of artistic license.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I pirate that!

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*would

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa, I had just typed this comment, then deleted it.

Mindmeld. I was also thinking that if someone told me there was a hip hop track on a late Style Council record, I would probably believe them.

by marc w on Sep 23, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unispired?

So are we collectively inspired as one?

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 8:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, new FF doesn't have SL spelling.

I’ll fix both of them.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

I was so hoping it was intentional.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty inspired now.

Although it might be gas.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a bit scary.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

School shootings in Finland, eh?

Jack Thompson to the white courtesy phone.

by BrianL on Sep 23, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay

- Finnish boys are just jealous they can’t get chicks like Patrik Antonius.
- Worry about 50 Cent’s credibility when he starts making G rated Disney movies, aka the Ice Cube Principle… though the issue of him having credibility in the first place is debatable.
- I would rather this season be over.
- If I was Carl Everett, I’d never leave my house either. I’d probably also lose 50 pounds and not be a stupid bigot, but speculating further is fruitless.
- Ghostwriting makes more money.
- Y SO BLOCKY?
- First person to say BrianL has girlparts gets banned… oh wait I can’t do shit about it nm

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 8:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When you get used to not having power, it sets you free...

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a weird conundrum it was

Never wanted it. Had it, out of circumstance. Wasn’t sure how much to use it. Wasn’t sure IF to use it. Tried not to use it. Tried to use it. Damned if I did, damned if I didn’t. Went out for drinks.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soup

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 8:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why's that?

The sugar-free syrup? The berries already carry enough sugar and regular syrup is too heavy for my taste.

Whoops, need to go flip the pancake.

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The berries are natural, not processed.

Also, I am so glad they sell Snoqualmie Falls Lodge pancake mix here. Bisquick and Krusteaz just does not cut it.

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bahahahahaha this is great.

My boss is trying to deal with a Kronos tech support agent about Crystal-based reports. Except this support agent can’t make an “r” sound.

“I’m sowwy but Kwonos is not Cwystal suppowted”

by BrianL on Sep 23, 2008 9:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

outsourcing is awesome

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So THAT'S where Pontius Pilate ended up...

You should as him how Biggus is doing these days…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, did we all know that the Nationals hold the tiebreaker over us?

Via their record last season being worse than ours last season, rather than H2H performance this season?

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Sep 23, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

*Cough* Shawne Merriman *Cough*

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Sep 23, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read into that as cortisone shot type of treatment.

Reducing the inflammation, masking the injury. Hadn’t thought of it from your point of view though. I’ve got a wicked image in my head of a professional weight lifter who’s pectoral popped during a lift (because of what you mention). They found he had massive calcification of his muscle tissues due to “performance enhancer” overuse. They had to remove the muscle. Gross.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, it would suck to attend this school.

What’s their mascot?

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, sorry.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, I never heard about this!

Misspelling incident.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 9:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha

So Hocking tattletailed on Minnesota by alerting the Angels. Traitor.

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This reminds me of a game in the early or mid 90's

where a Blue Jays player went out with a road jersey that said TOROTNO

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need more beer advice.

I just turned 21 today and my parents are coming into town and want to take me to a nice restaurant, and I’m going to let them because it’s a weekday. I obviously can’t get shitfaced, but I want to go somewhere with good beer on tap.

Price isn’t much of an issue because they offered to take me to the Metropolitan Grill. They insist on buying me a really nice dinner so McMenamins or another one of Seattle’s real good bars without much else to offer are probably out of the question. Ideally I’d choose a place with a selection of their own brews but also offers a pretty upscale dinner.

Has anyone ever drank at the Met Grill, even for just one or two drinks? I’m sure they don’t brew their own, but am I right to assume they’ll have something tasty on tap? Or is there somewhere else anyone can recommend me?

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 9:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Happy birthday!

Be careful your first few legal weeks. That seems to be when most people get in trouble!

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, if you're going to the Met and someone else is footing the bill

and you’re not drinking in quantity, get a martini. They do them better than most Seattle restaurants – the Smoky Met is really good. But, if beer is what you really want, they do have Hoegaarden on tap – the Met isn’t known for their beer, they’re more of a mixed-drink expense-account-money-is-no-object type place.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a big mixed drink fan, so I'll probably go with the Hoegaarden.

You’re right in that I should take advantage of my parents’ generosity, which is why I’m really trying to find a place with food I certainly can’t afford on my own. That’s definitely priority #1. But it’d be perfect if I could have a great beer with it. I like Hoegaarden a lot and a steak I can cut with my fork sounds absolutely mouthwatering so I’m definitely leaning towards there more than before.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good choice

and honestly, the porterhouse at the Met is one of the best steaks you’ll ever have. Cuts with a fork, melts in your mouth.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had the Chateaubriand last time.

I like to consider myself a tiny bit of an adventurest when it comes to food, but that steak ruined me on beef for weeks after. I’m very looking forward to that again, but I just know trying something else there has the potential to be just as or more rewarding. I may have to force myself to try the porterhouse, but I’m gonna need more self convincing. Maybe I’ll go with what goes best with a Martini or a Hoegaarden. But either way there’s no way I can lose.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got the last part right.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You will not be disappointed by a cooked-medium Porterhouse

I actually prefer it to Chateaubriand, but either one’s stellar.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoegaarden with steak, I dunno'.

That’s a pretty light beer to pair with red meat.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 21.

Good beer + Good meat = Good meal. Besides, martini’s aren’t exactly real heavy either. (Although I’ll willingly concede my drinking inexperience.) Also, they may have something else real good on tap that’s a bit thicker too.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be like drinking white wine with red meat, though.

The beer wouldn’t seem all that good, because the steak would overpower it. I’d go for a porter or stout personally.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ideally, you're absolutely right.

I’ll just have to see what they have. But I’m inexperienced enough to not let a good food-drink combo disappoint me when I love both of them.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have the Hoegaarden with the salad/appetizer course

then switch to either a good cabernet if wine’s your thing, or have water.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't recommend Cab + steak enough.

Especially if it’s a Napa Cab. If it’s not Napa Cab, and they have an Old Vine Zin, then that’s a good alternative…

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by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Taphouse downtown has an entire wall of beers on tap.

It is nice, but not too formal. The food is pretty good. Crazy selection of beer and bartenders/servers who know enough about them to steer you in the right direction.

It is on 6th ave I think. Just up the hill a bit from the Pacific Place Mall.

Oh, and Happy Birthday!

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the Met has better food

This is the dilemma with downtown Seattle. The places your parents most likely want to take you are great restaurants with good mixed drinks – the beer places are all downscale (still nice but not swanky). Go to the Met, get one of the best steaks you’re ever likely to have, have a good martini, and live like Gordon Gekko for a couple hours; once you see the prices of the entrees you’ll never want to go there again. It’s well worth it if your parents are treating.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on this one.

Take the all expenses paid dinner at the Met while you have the chance. You can afford to pay for your own beer experimentation.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been to the Met once before, and I've never had a better steak in my life.

I never imagined going there again, but then again I never expect anyone to pay that much money for a dinner.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get their specialty martini, as others have said.

That is, if you know how to drink, and aren’t a fan of sweetened drinks.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I'll have to try the special martini too.

Sweet drinks are for festive occasions with an 80% female crowd only.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

80% seems oddly arbitrary

and would require some sort of headcount, which seems like a lot of work for a drink.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does it matter what everyone else drinks?

When I go out I drink beer, my buddy drinks whiskey-diets, and my finacee drinks tequila.

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by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It matters if you're single and trying to impress someone, I guess

but for the likes of us hitched-up folks, yeah, it doesn’t really matter. Which is why I stick with my usual combination of Windex and Tang.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to try that.

I guess it never crossed my mind that I should drink the same thing as my “date”. I was always just careful not get completely phammered.

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by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't have to, I don't think

I just remember my single, college days when if I was with a room full of single women, I would watch what they drank and copy them. Why? Because I was kind of a loser, really. But still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does?

I’m not sure I’ve ever matched my drink to a potential.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have one male friend.

He doesn’t drink.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not single, so no.

Unless a party springs up and all they have are Cosmo mixers.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I'm somewhat confused as well.

Girls seem to like it when guys drink things like whisky, at least in my experience.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lime Ricky. I've had a friend order this.

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by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds delicious.

I enjoy drinks that are typically enjoyed by landed gentry.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Delicious.

I also love a good sloe gin fizz.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My appreciation for good liquor is gaining lots of momentum.

But I haven’t grown to like Gin much. Albeit the best gin I’ve tried is Tanqueray.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonic is horrible.

It has tons of high fructose corn syrup in it, too, which is bad for hangovers.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonic has HFCS?

Are you trying to take away my favorite drink?

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just trying to keep you healthy!

Switch to gin and soda with lime. Still delicious.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to the supreme higher knowledge of all

You are correct:

Medicinal tonic water originally contained only carbonated water and a large amount of quinine. However, most tonic water today contains a medically insignificant amount of quinine, and is thus used for its flavor only. It is consequently less bitter, and is also usually sweetened.

It’s on to soda for me.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No wonder they like tonic drinks in the South.

Malaria used to be a real problem down there.

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by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You won't be sorry.

Soda is the best of all mixers.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO!

Look, the key here is moderation. That goes for booze, and it goes for carbonated sweet drinks too.
HFCS isn’t good, but that shouldn’t FORCE you to sully your gin with soda.

Drinking is very personal, but I cry inside every time I see a gin and soda made. It just tastes salty to me, and totally ruins the gin. Hell, maybe you’ll like it..in which case, you win.
But man, be careful out there. Soda….yeeeeshhh.

by marc w on Sep 23, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone else seen the ads for HFCS?

They’re actually advertising now, trying to prove it isn’t bad for you.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To hell with it.

I’ll add another drink to my plan and try both.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In response to Thingray (because SBN broke)

HFCS turns anything you digest with it into fat. I’d like to see them disprove that.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say they were right.

I just think it’s hilarious that they are advertising now.

I love my HFCS even if it is bad for me. Then again, I am a beanpole.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I should take that back afterall.

My parents rescheduled for tomorrow so I went out with some co workers for my 21st. (Who then got me thoroughly wasted.) Somebody across the bar heard about it so they bought me a Whisky7. I went through it fast enough and made the mistake of saying I wasn’t feelig it yet that they bought me another. And one of my coworkers did the same after I was done with that.

I was also bought a couple Manny’s thereafter, which I wasn’t all too disappointed with. Although I’m still craving for a Mirror Pond. Someone also bought me a Bud Light, which I didn’t want but went with it anyways. God damn I got a cold reminder that’s the worst fucking beer I’ve ever had. I’ll never drink that as even a social beer.

by Double06 on Sep 24, 2008 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to live in DC.

Paying $200 for dinner + wine for two doesn’t phase me anymore.

Sadly.

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Sep 23, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's it?

Yeah, living in NNJ/NYC, there’s one of those in every small town. It goes up from there.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 23, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going at 8:30, so that shouldn't be a problem.

That said, I’m expecting to be sharing a room with a lot of yuppies.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of guys in $1000 suits eating expense account dinners

and if you’re there after a game, you may see a few ballplayers.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the evenings picture more upscale.

Suits, conservative types (they exist in this town). The Gordon Gekko comment was pretty apt.

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by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Met used to give a pretty good recommendation if you asked.

I’m not sure if the wine sommelier is involved in the beer choices. The Met has a new one (and new restaurant manager) since I’ve been there last so maybe things have changed. My sister used to work there so I’m biased towards the Met. For what they do they are arguably the best in town.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem is that their beer selection's kinda weak

at least compared to the four page wine list, which is one of the better ones I’ve seen in Seattle.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They used to carry Grant's Scottish Ale on tap.

It no longer exists. May God rest it’s soul. (and Grant’s went great with a steak, but I’d say I’m peculiar in my tastes and go with a wine.)

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy they used to have down there was pretty cool.

Dave Coyle I think. He played the role, but when he took the monkey suit off he was a pretty cool joe to hang with, which unfortunately I only had the pleasure of doing about twice. My sister has some very interesting friends.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck 'em, I'm not old enough to appreciate wine yet.

And they’ll never see me at that establishment ever again.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not true.

You don’t need to be a certain age to appreciate good wine.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 23, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good wine tastes nothing like church

Good wine tastes like the things that church doesn’t approve of.

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by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need to have drinken a certain amount of wine to appreciate good wine.

I grew up with a wine geek of a father (also a beer geek), and I have never in my childhood developed an appreciation for it. For example, I haven’t tried one red I have been able to appreciate. When I was about 10 I found I liked sweet and/or fruity wines like Spumante but in the 11 years thereafter I haven’t made much progress in the wine category.

Again, it’s obviously inexperience, and I’ve started to appreciate drier white wines in recent years and combined with my growing appreciation with beer it’s obvious I’m headed in that direction. I’m just not there yet. I’m guessing I’m on pace to start to really appreciate wines in the next 5 or 10 years, but things can certainly change and I might get there sooner.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never cared for it until I learned more about food.

Once I had proper pairings of good food and good wine, I began to see what the fuss is all about. I still prefer beer, assuming decent options are available.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My appreciation for food grows as my paycheck does.

Now I have added motivation to work harder.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would consider it an acquired taste.

So I’d would equate it with having a hobby. Poor analogy but analogies usually aren’t perfect, so there’s that. When people get uppity about their tastes or hobbies, fuck’em. If they want to share their acquired information great, otherwise shut up and keep it to yourself.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd second this, but it's a German beer house, not a Belgian one.

The Belgian one is something else.

People’s pub Goulash… mmmmmm.

by marc w on Sep 23, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps. I'd have to see it.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always been treated really well at the Monk.

The guy seemed like he was in an absolute haze, so I’m willing to assume something bad had happened.

The Monk’s on the Hill, so I think we might be thinking of different places. Are you thinking of the alehouse near the Tractor/Hattie’s?

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's the one.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For whatever reason, I haven't been there.

I’ve heard good things, I’m just typically in the mood for the People’s or Hattie’s when I’m on Ballard Ave.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely need a classy bar close to home.

I was hoping it could be the Dray, but not so much. And Tiger Tail has good food and great beer, but it’s loud and so does not work for these purposes.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just went to the Kort Haus for my wife's birthday nightcap after dinner on the 18th.

There’s something to be said for a friendly hole-in-the-wall.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what would be great.

A map of the city, like the bike trail map they are building. Little pins with flags, sortable by tags. I hit up a new area of town like Bothell, I luck into a Cougar bar. It would be nice to have a reference. Then again that pre-empts a lot of nice informative conversation.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit Google Maps was absolutely made for this.

I can’t believe I hadn’t thought of that before.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can do stuff like that in Google Maps?

That would be pretty neat, link to in the wiki or something. LL recommendations, something like that. Have a ? mark that moves around for Scrappy’s, make people think they are missing out on something really cool they just aren’t cool enough to be included in.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait. I think I just got this.

Have you mentioned this before, and I’m just stating the obvious like a big dummy?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I'm actually not being a sarcastic jerl.

I know, it’s weird for me as well.

I think I actually am going to make a project of this.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a fun project!

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool!

It’s a new word, a jerk with a jerry curl. I’m all thumbs with the computer stuff, you set it up, let me post some recommendations? If you don’t I’m gonna screen shot this and sue the shit out of you for intellectual property rights, but only if it makes money.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday! And congrats on dinner at the Met.

My wife and I try to go there once a year and my only two recommendations are to try the lobster bisque and then after dinner get the Balvenie Port Wood 21 year Highlands Scotch. It is amazing and only runs for $19.

by Sec 108 on Sep 23, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recommendations for times out with friends

A. no Long Islands
B. no AMFs
C. no Liquid Cocaine

wait a few times before doing those, unless you’re in a hell of a hurry to get messed up!

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

May I add:

Shots pile up very quickly, be careful!

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by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about that.

My shit beer of choice to get hammered with a group of friends younger than me is Coors Light and I still enjoy a Corona on a hot day at the beach, although it’s obviously not for taste as much as relaxation.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I love good beer,

I have no shame in saying my drink at home beer is often something lighter like High Life or Miller Lite. I cannot stand Budweiser, however.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's nothing wrong with "union beer" (as my friends call it).

Just a plain cold beer on a hot day. There is a time for the Met, and a time for something from the microwave.

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by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A) Never had one.

B) Don’t know what it is.
C) I went through an energy drink phase in my teens and I’d rather drink hooker spit.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You will shortly find out what an AMF is

and come to love them like I do.

Just I wouldn’t try any your first time at the bar. That’s four-five shots that’ll sneak up on you

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heroes cost me an hour of sleep last night.

It was over at 11 pm Alaska time, my alarm goes off at 4 am.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Everything in my house conspired to make me not sleep last night.

Cats, kids you name it. All I wanted was some damn peace and quiet.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sheer level of ignorance by the American people about the state of Alaska absolutely boggles my mind.

Do not want to have a political discussion. Just merely stating a fact about the Lower 48 this political season is making blindingly clear.

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seattle doesn't give us a choice.

Our FOX station plays them no matter what. Most second or third generation Alaskans are growing up cheering for them because they see them on TV.

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would make sense.

This is just the first time I’ve seen a politician on a national stage that actively roots for a Seattle team.

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by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, she was born in Idaho.

Chances are good had she not grown up in AK she would be a ’Hawks fan anyway.

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are very few Seahawks fans in Idaho

Lots of Raiders, 49ers, and Broncos fans though

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear they've intergrated and are now busing in minorities to level the playing field.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey speaking of HOF football players.

I found this the other day. Interesting read, these guys actually created a metric for HOF’ers per team, and discuss which teams have been cheated. Link.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the fuck!?

No F’ing way in hell Morten Andersen goes into the hall as a Falcon. They already have their numbers screwy based solely on that.

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot there was a part II.

Link.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Alaska you mention

does it have paved roads yet?

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by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. We have some cobblestone though.

We stay away from paved streets because they hurt the sled dog’s feet.

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's reasonable.

progress should be undertaken slowly, lest the philistines take over. When you get your first stop light I want a picture.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Alaska

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my God this CIS ATA degree is insulting.

“Introduction to business computing”
An introduction to business computing concepts and applications using Windows and MS Office.

by BrianL on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You're so ambitious

I wish someone would give me a degree in knowing how to use MS Office =(

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My work requires me to use office

though I admit preferring Excel to OpenOffice Calc

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even I'll admit...

…that Excel is probably Microsoft’s best program ever. Either that or SQL Server.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody have a good suggestion for a spam blocker?

It needs to work with Outlook, AVG and Spy-Bot. Twenty junk emails every five minutes is BS.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

PC Tools Spyware Doctor

Totally free and kicks ass. Use it with Threatfire (also free) for maximum protection.

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by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually it may not be free.

I paid for the pro version of threatfire and got this with it.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two more weeks until:

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by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that looks fantastic

I’m trying to make it two weeks until this

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Corco endorsed

still a good car though

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could go with a way worse choice, for sure.

Still much, much prefer the G35, although it is markedly more expensive.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't like the new G35 Coupe

and trying not to spend too much money

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap!

I’ve been in that place when we were looking. That was one of our top choices. And no, I’m not a creep.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You’re here in Oly?

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I just mentioned this to my wife on the phone, she even looked at it and agreed.

There’s a house in Kenmore/Brier area north of L. WA, looks exactly like this. Picture angle, trees, design/color of the house, nearly the whole shebang. Only noticeable difference are the flower beds in the fore ground. Weird.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curious about the layout...

3 bedrooms upstairs, with a large-ish bonus room?

4th bedroom on the main floor, with both the bathroom and laundry room (which basically is between the hall and garage) next to it?

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Growing up in Yakima, the house we lived in had an exact duplicate about ten blocks away.

My suspicion is that contractors will reuse floor plans, whereas an architect would draw up something unique for you. Point is, the two house could be identical if it’s a mass-used floor plan or the same original contractor.

Or Kermit is delusional.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mass used floor plans are hilarious

take it from someone who lives in a planned community – it’s hysterical to realize that the house across the street and two doors over is identical in every way to your house except for the cars parked outside

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly what we were trying to avoid.

I don’t mind so much having the same house as someone else, even in the reasonable vicinity. I just don’t want my house to look EXACTLY like pretty much all the houses on the street.

And usually in such communities, you may get a postage stamp-sized yard. That was also not an option for us. Yeah, it’ll suck mowing the lawn, but 1/3rd an acre is a decent-sized yard for what we want to do.

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this.

But he’s got quite a few years yet before I’d trust him with the lawn mower. As badly as he wants to use the Dyson to help vacuum, I don’t trust him to use that yet either…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly. (we looked at a ton of houses fast).

2bed up and down, larger upstairs. Utility in garage/1/4 bathroom next to entryway. Looked like the upstairs had been renovated and master enlarged, maybe what happened too odd bedroom.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nice looking home. And it looks like your neighbors keep their properties equally kept.

Congrats on the new home. I’m sure you got a good deal on it considering how long the housing market has been in shambles.

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice 'hood, definitely...

The timing couldn’t be better for us. Enough of a market for us to be able to sell our house (we had 3 offers in total, and probably could’ve had more if we’d’ve kept it on the market longer) and catching the tail end of the favorable mortgage rates. The rates may not skyrocket, but it’s getting WAAAAAAY tougher to get approval for a loan, especially in the price range we were forced to look in…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the reason my wife and I bought when we did.

Sometimes it’s not the market that sets the price, it’s the availability of mortgages. They dumped all those ARMs and NINJA mortgages and starting sticking to the conventionals again, it really cut into the numbers of people available to buy a home at the upper end of the price range. Anyway, I qualify for a VA mortgage, and that limited us by a bunch. I’m surprised people won’t even talk to you when you mention VA mortgage.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was excited when our best offer on our house sale was a non-FHA loan.

FHA appraisals are brutal, especially now.

I’ve heard horror stories about VA, too, but everyone lately has been saying FHA is worse than VA (for sellers).

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 23, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd heard stories they were slow.

Went by the numbers. Appraiser nailed the price at exactly what we offered, so he was definitely with the program. I’d have slipped him a bill if I’d had the chance. Strange mortgage. You can do 0 down, but your VA funding fee goes from like .5% of mortgage to 1.5%. No prepayment penalty, couple other nice things. Used to be an even better deal, but it got “improved” about 6 years ago.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gregg Easterbrook, how I love TMQ now that you've gone insane

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/080923

Satellite Note 2: Geo-Eye sounds an awful lot like GoldenEye, the satellite designed to destroy the global financial system in a James Bond movie. GeoEye was launched on Sept. 6; the global financial meltdown began on Sept. 14.

I think he’s on to something!!!

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Goldeneye

See reflections on the water
More than darkness in the depths
See him surface and never a shadow
On the wind I feel his breath
Goldeneye, I found his weakness
Goldeneye, hell do what I please
Goldeneye, no time for sweetness
But a bitter kiss will bring him to his knees
Youll never know how I watched you from the shadows as a child
Youll never know how it feels to be the one whos left behind
Youll never know the days and the nights, the tears, the tears Ive cried
But now my time has come and time, time is not on your side
See him move through smoke and mirrors
Feel his presence in the crowd
Other girls they gather around him
If I had him I wouldnt let him out
Goldeneye, not lace or leather
Golden chain take him to the spot
Goldeneye, Ill show him forever
It will take forever to see what Ive got
Youll never know how I watched you from the shadows as a child
Youll never know how it feels to get so close and be denied
Its a gold and honey trap Ive got for you tonight
Revenge is a kiss this time I wont miss
Now Ive got you in my sight
With a goldeneye
Golden, goldeneye
With a goldeneye, goldeneye

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 23, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Moore was doing a Q&A at the Fremont Ladro when I went to get coffee.

Thanks to the guy in front of me’s complex drink order, I am now dumber.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Very strictly defined cappucino.

It’s “dry” or “wet” guy, not a decision as to whether or not invading mainland China would be prudent.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know the difference

but I know those Chinese fuckers would kick our asses if we so much as pissed them off

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZOMG...

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colombia here we come!

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do not underestimate the firepower of Juan Valdez.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 23, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's less powerful than the Chairman

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 23, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the burro?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 23, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So everyone tell me what you think about this:

My brother-in-law got stopped for a DUI a few months back, after I had a couple of drinks with him. He had been at another bar earlier , and stayed where we were at well after I left, so I don’t feel guilty. But here’s the thing:

I get a call this morning from his attorney, who wants me to go testify at his court appearance TOMORROW. For one, I have a job. And for two, I have scheduled meetings at said job tomorrow. Isn’t less than 24 hours notice a bit insane if they want me to testify?

Besides, what the heck would I say? I saw him have a couple drinks, and then I left. I think his attorney sucks. Plus, this isn’t his first DUI, so I don’t even know if I should even try to help him, or let him pay the price for his own actions.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think in any situation involving family, it's your responsibility to do your best to help him, no matter how stupid what he did was

but it might be an indication that you should try and keep a little closer eye on him at bars, etc. Forcibly take the keys if you’re out with him or whatever, but I’d certainly at least give him some support.

RE: work, shouldn’t your employer give you the day off if you have to go to court?

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We usually keep a pretty close eye on him, and he seldom argues if we ask for his keys.

But this particular time he seemed okay when I left, even though I offered him a ride (which he declined).

As for work, I haven’t been subpoenaed (did I spell that correctly?), so they don’t have to give me the time off work (although they would). The main issue is the meeting I have with clients who are flying in from the east coast.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taking his keys in subsequent situations would suffice as support

Actually, it can be argued that the best thing for the BIL may be to eat the punishment for his offense, given this isn’t the first time. You want what’s best for your family, and that may be what’s ultimately best.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be 45 days,

but he’s self employed (if you can call it that), so it’s not like he’ll lose his job or anything.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Potential jail time is another issue

If it was just a fine and license suspension, I could see not doing it. If he’s facing time in the can, you may want to do what you can.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to see what I can do.

His attorney still hasn’t even called me back, and his voicemail sounds like it was recorded on a cell phone in the back of a fast moving truck.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't go

- You have personal commitments and this hearing isn’t directly relevant to your existence.
- What can you possibly say to clear his name?
- Like you said, he’s a repeat offender. It’s probably best to let him eat the punishment. Maybe he’ll get the hint.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The middle point is what kills me.

What can I say to possibly help? “Yeah, I was out drinking with him, but he seemed okay to me..”

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go testify.

Your work cannot legally stop you and you would want him to be there to testify for you.

by Wilder. on Sep 23, 2008 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Life is more important than work.

Go testify.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was innocent

Thing is… and you definitely want to find this out, Thingray, if you elect to testify (which I can understand)… what is his lawyer looking to accomplish by bringing you in? What does he believe your testimony can prove?

If it’s an issue of his ability to drive, whether his judgment is impaired, then you can (perhaps) help your BIL by citing how he seemed fine.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But I was drinking too,

and quite honestly wasn’t paying much attention to how much he was drinking. I just don’t think I’m a good witness.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There you go

Ultimately, it’s a matter of the marginal utility of your testimony, compared to the opportunity cost of missing work and the meeting.

by Gomez on Sep 23, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I went out and made my first alcohol purchase this morning at the Safeway 2 blocks away.

- A 6 of Alaskan Amber because it’s one of my faves.
- A 12 of Stella Artois because it was the best Pilsner they had.
- A 6 of Full Sail Pale Ale because they pissed me off and didn’t have Mirror Pond.

I’ve been craving a Pale Ale for days so I rolled the dice, and then some indolent dickbag snuck an Alaskan Summer Ale in my Amber so I got rid of that ass soon as I could.. I’m headed to Bottle Works in Northgate later this week to get something recommended in one of the beer threads to quench my thirst of something of real quality. What do they have there that I should make for my second beer purchase?

I should really eat my toaster waffle breakfast but I’m no longer hungry.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My Mom gave me a check for $100.00 on my 21st,

and it said “not for booze” on the memo line.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it worth $100?

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, she got it on sale for $50

then she said “maybe next time when I say ‘make a list of things you want for your birthday, you’ll take it seriously.’”

To be fair, it’s a really nice bag, and I use it every time I travel.

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And she might have a point.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My parents took me on the dinner train for my 21st Birthday

I had worked a graveyard shift the night before and my Dad got me wasted. I slept the whole train ride back.

by Sec 108 on Sep 23, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry.

It’ll be 8:30 so it’ll have worn off by then.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogue I-squared

Anderson Valley Winter Solstice

just to name two.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 23, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bottleworks next time.

I do live in Greenwood/Northgate, afterall.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Bottleworks?

My buddy is having his annual brewfest next week, and I need to find a kick-ass microbrew to bring with me. I was going to try Star Beer Mart, but Ihaven’t heard good things about them lately.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a few blocks east of there.

That Chevron has funny readerboards.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Sep 23, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If your talking about 15 back or more,

I might have been responsible for some of those. Nothing else to think about on the graveyard shift.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 23, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I AM a fan of Rogue in couple of theirs I've tried.

Dead Guy is my favorite. I really wish they had some at the Safeway.

by Double06 on Sep 23, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do fear your wrath

BrianL does not, apparently

by seattlebruin on Sep 23, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs