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The Official Off-Topic FanPost of the Day, 9.22.08

Thoughts for the day, since I don't link dump in my OTFPOTDS

- What the hell, how is it already almost October?

- Who here is awesomely excited for COD - World at War?

- The Office premieres on Thursday. Here's to hoping that they don't follow the F-R-I-E-N-D-S model and start sacrificing comedy for plot around Seasons 4/5 (uh-oh...) leaving only traces of comedic brilliance.

- I've never been more impressed with the Mariners than I have over the past twelve days. Just when I thought they were a lock to miss 100 losses...

- pdb's wife was probably happier than I was around 3:30 PM on Saturday

- Keep updating LLikipedia!

- Keep the dream of Scrappy's alive!

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I take it Sunday was not the new Thursday for you.

October comes after September (but I just wrote November so I’m not sure I should judge)
I have an exam Thursday night—clearly my professor was not thinking ahead
I’m finally on the Choose to Lose bandwagon, as it’s slightly less heartbreaking
I updated one this morning; what else would you like?
I’d prefer nsfw Morrow
SEA-HAWKS
Ok I tried and it just doesn’t work
Coffee is better for you

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 6:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

First result under Brandon Morrow: Ms limp home after 0-11 road trip

Eighth result: “Brandon Morrow is Regressing” courtesy of one Jeffrey Sullivan
And, uh, what?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yes, Sunday was not the new Thursday for me

my goal this week is to limit it to only three Thursdays and maybe one Friday

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He blogged about bloggers, apparently.

And told Katal that he could save “his buddies” some work because he never wrote that Bedard should pitch through pain.
This was during a game in which people were trying to find examples of Baker being a hypocrite.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When does COD come out?

I wonder if I buy an Xbox in Japan, can I play American games, or play it on an American tv when I bring it back to the States?

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 7:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shipping is awful tho...

My PS3 died this summer, I’m not sure whether to buy an Xbox or PS3 next…

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could play it on an American tv

but the Xbox 360 is not region free.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

So if I buy one here I can only play Japanese games on it huh? I guess I’ll just have to ship one.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They opened for U2 last time I saw them in Seattle. They were terrible.

Though nowhere near as bad as Smash Mouth who opened the first time I saw them in Seattle.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for remindind me of the existence of Smash Mouth

I’m gonna need some grain alcohol to put that memory back where it belongs.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will defend All Star

because it’s one catchy damn pop song. Otherwise, though, they pretty much blow.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now it's stuck in my head.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hungover for a ride back from a Rays game

This song came on the sat radio and literally minutes later the driver had to pull over so I could throw up on the shoulder. Some might say it was the excessive consumption of the night before, but I know the real answer. Please let it end.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loathe pop unless it is Elvis Costello

otherwise no thank you.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're missing a lot of great pop

Big Star
Matthew Sweet
Cheap Trick

just to name three.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I make up for it by listening to way too much mid-90s Rock and Awe

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My wife was indeed happy Saturday

Her mom has been a UA football season ticket holder for about 30 years, and goes on one road trip a year, to a different stadium. This year’s trip was to Pasadena. We kept getting text updates. And then we found out later that ASU lost – my wife had a good weekend.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 7:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course you do

For line-of-sight obstruction, if nothing else.

by Alex B on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happens to the 19?

Do you then have three monitors going or do you pass the smaller one on to someone else? I wish I had the desk real estate to have two monitors going, much less three.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How to score a goal by missing instead

From an English Championship (league below Premier League) match this weekend:

Linesman fooled by “optical illusion”

by Alex B on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was utterly ridiculous

I hadn’t seen it yet, just read about it. What a mess. If only there were some sort of technology that could prevent such things.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard they made a way to make pictures move

like in Harry Potter. I’ve yet to see evidence of this, though

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moving pictures?

Isn’t that one of the signs of the apocalypse?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A modern-day warrior

Mean mean stride,
Today’s tom sawyer
Mean mean pride.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is Rock Band DLC for this week.

Yay! I don’t particularly like Rush, but they’re fun as hell on drums.

by Phildopip on Sep 22, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't own it.

I played it at a friend’s house this weekend.

by Phildopip on Sep 22, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Played it at a friends house this weekend and it was awesome.

by l0nepinemall on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I never bought the first one, but I'm considering buying this.

Is there a Rock Band 2 that comes with all the instruments, or do I have to wait?

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

October 19th is when the bundle comes out.

It comes with the game, a guitar, drum set, and microphone for $190. If you bought all those things separately, you’d be paying a lot more (game: $60, guitar: $80, drums: $100, microphone: ~$30 = $270).

by Phildopip on Sep 22, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I was also considering buying the full Rock Band 1 set, then buying Rock Band 2.

But that’s probably a waste of money. Are the new instruments different?

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The drums are supposedly a bit better

the guitar is about the same.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drums are WAAAAAY better.

I played them on Friday, and holy shit they’re awesome. The guitar has a new “self-calibration” system that is supposedly pretty slick.

by Phildopip on Sep 22, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am actually pretty nervous about it

Granted, the last season was a complete mess because of the strike, but I thought they reeeeeally went off the rails. I’m giving this season about three episodes to be more interesting, otherwise I’m done.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly they showed the premier at Comicon and it was hailed as a return to form.

I was just watching TV after being meh’d out by last season, but I saw one of the commercials, and I was inordinately hyped. I can’t wait for it to start.

55!

by joof on Sep 22, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Season 2 was crap.

I also hate how stupid Peter is with his powers. That scene where he struggles to use telekinesis to open a door? Dude, you have the ability to phase through objects!

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

That’s one of my main fears, is that they’ll get more and more ridiculous now that they have an out for certain people; I also worry that they’ll get away from the big overarching conspiracy thing and turn into more of a find-the-random-bad-person-of-the-week sort of thing, which would be really stupid.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want Peter to be smarter in his power usage.

The writers are all intelligent people, many of whom have written comics before, why do they forget he has all of his powers? So far the only one he uses every episode is his ability to be a douche.

You know that promo they run on NBC showiing Claire holding a gun on him and saying “I always loved you peter.”? Well it is getting some flak for being creepy because she is his nephew, since when is it not okay to tell your Uncle you love him? I do it all the time.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I skipped all of season 2

but I know I’ll watch tonight and hope its decent.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A baseball blog is responsible for turning me into a vegan

I clicked on the ChooseVeg.com ad on USS Mariner out of irrepressible boredom and watched the video. Frak the heck!

:(

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't go full vegan.

Those people are insufferably pretentious and talk waaaaaaaaay too much about their bowel movements.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any store in the Beverly Center?

Except the Mac store, which is actually pretty helpful. Especially compared to the one at the Grove.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have gone there

but I was actually interested in buying clothes, so I went with Westside and Century City

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you went shopping in Santa Monica?

I try to avoid SM like the plague.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I visited there once

The beach is nice. The city proper… eh….

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sharper image?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Video Only in Washington is pretty bad

I went in there once and asked for something and they told me “This isn’t Radio Shack”.

I’ve never felt more disgusted or insulted in a store in my life.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine how Robert feels.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if it was

YOU’D BE SORRY

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you go full vegan, don't preach about it.

that’s all I ask.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always forget to add the qualifier

I’m all about as much personal freedom as you want so long as your personal freedom doesn’t impede on the personal freedoms of others…man.

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm the same way, actually

and I really do have nothing against hobos. Or is it hoboes?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Murders and executions."

“What was that?”
“I said mergers and acquisitions.”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to return some video tapes.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you plan to abstain from honey, too?

Vegans I know are up in the air about this.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those poor sensitive bees.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't somebody think of the poor, defenseless soy?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bloody hell

What does leave? Beets? How do these people survive?

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand it myself.

These same people will not wear silk.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cannibalism?

The official Vegan Society definition wouldn’t appear to exclude it…

The word “veganism” denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

by Alex B on Sep 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

…a baseball’s cover is made out of…

…alright, I’m not that convicted about this.

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paper

Baseballs are made of paper

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can make 1,000 baseballs with one animal.

It’s the baseball gloves that cause the genocide.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then they rub the balls with mud and beat them with a stick.

While thousands cheer. What will the future make of us?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As opposed to those that talk about the after-effects of their bowel movements,

and no longer being able to drink coffee because of them?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure you get a healthy diet that is not ruled by carbs

I know three different vegans that became malnourished because they did not get a good balance of protein in their diet.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad.

I am about to eat a delicious brat.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking a mug is the more cost effective route.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking this as well

though I just got this mug a few weeks ago and am rather fond of it.

Perhaps I will just swap this mug to home where I have a dishwasher, and bring my UCLA mug (which is more standard sized) to work.

Yes, I’m aware how much I’m enriching all of your lives with this knowledge

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm truly fascinated.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you feeling better?

hopefully you kicked the last of the sickness.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kicked that sickness, but my chronic illness has knocked me off my feet and I can't sit up today.

So studying while lying down…oh joy of my life.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's no good.

my wife has chronic migraines, I don’t know what your chronicness is (and I’m not fishing, really…) but stuff like that is no fun to deal with.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

joyous.

My wife, in her attempts to get her migraines diagnosed/treated (she misses, on average, 2 days of work a month because of these things), has described herself as a roulette ball bouncing around the wheel of the medical establishment. It’s no fun. But, hopefully, you’ll start getting some answers one of these days.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My buddy's wife gets them so bad she sometimes has what are called "migraine halos"

Everyone she says has a bright light outlining their features. One was so bad once, she forget where she was and why she was there (at a job interview for added irritation) they had to call him for her to come pick her up.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps you are a victim of

Rocco Baldelli’s Disease.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he go on the DL just to make room for other players?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not yet

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

I said I’d update people today, and though I never received any follow-up information, I owe you an explanation.

Last Thursday I contacted Jeff out of the blue, as there’s been a growing negative sentiment among the mods and among a growing subset of members towards me over the last few months for reasons specifically unknown to me, but the tone of our interactions (and I’m not talking about arguments, but every interaction on this blog) made it very clear. The argument on Thursday about managers and Riggleman was one of the byproducts. (I’ll admit I let my thought process get off the rails and suddenly I was debating red herrings unchecked… and badly too)

But whether or not that had happened, there was a problem, and if I said nothing, eventually things would only get worse and who knows what would have happened. The blog’s also changed considerably since I first joined. The environment is a LOT more hostile, and not just because of how the team’s doing, but in general as to how people interact with one another. USSM may have described this place as the frathouse to their classroom, but at least this place was a friendly frathouse.

So I contacted him out of the blue Thursday and, instead of debating the state of relations and the blog, I simply offered to leave quietly, no questions asked, if he wished. I offered to, if he concurred, to keep things on the down low and, if anyone pestered me, to direct any inquiries to him and leave any formal explanation to the other mods.

After about a day, he contacted me with a carefully worded e-mail to inform me that he and the trimvirate decided to demod me, but that he would not force me to leave (he would only say that I may leave if I wish) because I have friends on the blog and that, having met me, they can certify I’m a ‘good person’. The official reason cited for demodding was that they hated some of the things I did and that they reflected badly on the triumvirate. No specifics were given beyond that.

However, he did not specify whether or not I would continue writing the wrap-ups (the original reason I was granted mod status long ago was to post them). I followed up with him and asked him to verify whether or not he wanted me to continue for 2009. I gave it the entire weekend, made a good faith effort to continue participating in discussion, and even volunteered to attend LL Football.

As of this morning, Jeff never responded about my writing status. With no statement of confidence, I can only assume it’s over.

I’ve wavered back and forth about whether I want to continue participating here. For one, I do have a lot of friends here, but on the other I do have a lot of enemies, and among them are some, if not all, of the remaining writers for this blog. I may be argumentative, but a lot of us, and to date I’m still not exactly sure how I rub some people the wrong way. I fear that, in light of how some hated members were baited and/or banned from this site (some of which were bigger asshats than others), if I continue to participate, people would still hold their grudges, things would only continue to slide, and things, one way or another, still would not end well, even on my best behavior.

So while I’m not ready to say goodbye, I’m probably going to cut back. I like the off topic threads and I’ve never had any real problems here, so I may continue to participate in these, but I think I’m done otherwise. Obviously, if there’s rich information within, you can’t just stop reading the writing on this blog. You’d do yourself a disservice to cut yourself off completely like that. Perhaps, eventually, I’ll fade out completely, and quietly. We’ll see, and we’ll see what direction this blog takes in the future.

To conclude, here’s a fun fact: I no longer have access to any of the wrap-ups I’ve posted. I can read them, but I cannot edit them, since only writers can edit them and, by being demodded, I am no longer considered a writer by SBN. The triumvirate could, if they wanted, deface all of them and turn them into Club LL Volumes 3 through 439 if they wanted to.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 8:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Addendum

And I could amend this to death, but I’ll say this: my decisions boiled down to the reasons why I participate here, and I’d like to think that, like anyone else, it’s for enjoyment. And if that enjoyment disappears, then it’s probably time to go.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would miss you.

I have always enjoyed talking with you and I love your wrap-ups. I wasn’t even aware there was a problem. This season has been rough on everyone, especially those who have an obligation (so to speak) to write about the team daily. Perhaps all involved will feel different in the spring?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully we'll all feel differently on Monday

once this horrific season is over. There are times when the losing is comical, even genuinely amusing, but for the most part, this has been the shittiest season of all time. I think we’ll all be better off once the Mariners are done playing “baseball.”

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be really nice

I doubt it, though.

I will add that I do like and respect Matthew, Jeff and Graham as writers and people, and that if nothing else is why it bothers me so much.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the risk of sounding like I'm clueless (which never stopped me before)...

…I’m not sure where the perception of you as “hated” or “having enemies” comes from. I don’t know your interactions with the mods, and there’s no need to go into detail about it here, but apart from the random odd plant-your-flag-and-defend-it-even-when-there’s-no-need-to-do-so moment, I haven’t really seen the dramatic degradation of relations between you and the community that you describe in your email.

I don’t participate in game threads, so maybe it’s different in there, but I hope that this decision is made based on the facts, not on a possibly mistaken perception.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longest hyphenated phrase ever.

This may not be the time to point it out, but damn that thing is beautiful.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hostility would occur outside of arguments/discussions, often out of nowhere

If it only happened in arguments, that would be totally understandable.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's unfortunate,

although this may not be the proper forum for direction this discussion is taking.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully you'll continue to post here though,

I think you are a good poster. That’s one of the things that makes this blog great is the amount of quality posters.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, by and large the game threads are fine

People’s focus generally remains on the game and they can still be fun.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll admit to being a touch confused then

but either way I hope you’re still around for the OTFPOTDs and whatever else might go on around here

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I'm not really a regular here, sort of an on-and-offer,

but I will miss your wrap-ups. I didn’t even know there were issues between the mods.

This place does get a little hostile sometimes, but I don’t think that is necessarily a reflection on the people here. Moreso jsut the freedom the internet gives people to say things to other and about others they wouldn’t normally say.

Anyway, I hope everything is peacefully resolved and you continue to participate here.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh, well I for one hope you can walk away saying who the hell cares.

No offense to anybody here, but this is just a blog. Informative, sure. Amusing, sometimes. That is about it.

What happens here is not real life. What matters is how you interact face to face and I found you to be pleasant and open.

Don’t let judgments from others dictate your own happiness and good luck with whatever you do.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here here.

This whole episode is far and away the most ridiculous thing that has ever happened here.

The official reason cited for demodding was that they hated some of the things I did and that they reflected badly on the triumvirate.

I’d say this reflects MUCH worse on the almighty triumvirate.

The fact that blog politics exist is the biggest hypocritical issue of all, considering LL's stance on politics.

by Goose on Sep 24, 2008 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am very sorry to see this happen.

I agree with most of your sentiments regarding this blog’s evolution- especially over the last year or so.

May you one day grace us with your awesome minor league wrapups again in the future- either here or in an other forum.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?!

When did this all go down?

I have always enjoyed your writing and opinions. Never did I imagine they weren’t welcomed. Don’t leave us, Gomez.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

- The Office premieres on Thursday. Here’s to hoping that they don’t follow the F-R-I-E-N-D-S model and start sacrificing comedy for plot around Seasons 4/5 (uh-oh…) leaving only traces of comedic brilliance.

This assumes the Friends was 1) funny at some point, and 2) not a soap opera from episode 1

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Oh, Chandler. Stop horsing around.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Friends.

I also like chick flicks and showtunes.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like plenty of fruity forms of entertainment

But dear Jesus that show is so predictable and not funny.

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What Not to Wear, anyone?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate it when people revise meeting notices and don't cancel the old ones

which leads to my Outlook saying I have five meetings about the same thing in the same time and place, and I don’t know which one has the link to the most current presentation.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My company just started using Outlook about six months ago I guess

So they’re still climbing the learning curve. One of the standards they’ve established is that, if you’re going to be out of the office or late arriving due to an appointment or whatever, you send out an all-day appointment to your team noting your absence/lateness. The thing people always ALWAYS forget to do is mark the time “free” instead of “busy” – so my calendar is completely booked through the end of the year because people don’t remember to do this.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Wiki page is best

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

1997 was a good year

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a good year.

My swim team won regions that year, I graduated high school. . . that was the last year I had no responsibilities. 1998 and on have basically been ass.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got a puppy

Said puppy is still alive

I also moved to Idaho

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I threw it together in 2 30-second periods

There’s little love involved

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why do you hate yourself?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love myself

I’m just lazy

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

edit don't destroy

that’s against some wiki policy

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't get to push me on the wiki any more than you get to push me here.

Play nice or you don’t get to play at all.

I’m serious.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see the problem though

if said page is supposed to explain Corco and said page is reflective of Corco’s personality then it’s a decent contribution

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You not seeing the problem, IS the problem.

Make the images a lot smaller and you can keep the design. Don’t spew your love all over people’s monitors.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ten four

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also comma splice

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually not.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually yes

Standalone gerunds do not dependent clauses make

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

er that's a faulty sentence

That’s one full independent clause spliced in half by a comma as opposed to two standalone dependent clauses.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even more properly

 gerund phrases function as “nouns” within a sentence. “You not seeing” is the noun and “is” is the conjugated verb. Therefore one independent clause.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you stuck in the previous century?

Commas also function to emphasize a pause, particularly in colloquial speech. Matthew is emphasizing that YOU are the problem, hence, the comma.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but goddamit it oughta be

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figure if we're going to be grammar nazis we need to adhere to some strict standards

and not devolve into using colloquial grammar

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm just up on a high horse

but I feel that to be taken seriously as an academic writer (as Matthew is with regards to baseball stats) he should not be using commas for emphasis. It’s ugly and not fully accepted yet.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps in his posts, yes.

But then again, this man also created a new definition of “trite.”

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loathe grammar nazis and would see none of them if I had my way of it.

But you are correct that it was a misused comma. It’s a comment and I don’t feel like giving comments more than a casual second glance. There’s a difference between demanding posts be comprehensible and demanding that they follow every (ever-changing) grammatical rule.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tend to hold comments to a somewhat lower standard than posts, myself

which I’m sure will be a HUGE relief.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You go to UPS not a language institute.

As much as UPS enjoys dwelling on the written word, it is not at the forefront of fluctuations in language.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually quoting the MLA

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is all I'll say on this:

An ellipsis is the best way to illustrate a pause in speech.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this discussion shouldn't detract from Matthew's point

Though he nuked the Wiki entry in question, so I have no idea what this was about.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You realise you can see page revisions, right?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dam

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that a command?

Any particular river you want to see stopped?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just showing how I have troubles.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah.

And here I was ready to pour concrete. Ah well.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like salmon.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

One of the funnest things (yes. I used the word funnest.) my wife and I have done is when I took her to the Ballard Locks for the first time – she’d never seen salmon running before, and there were THOUSANDS of them (this year, there were about 12, but three years ago there was a huge run).

She was utterly fascinated by the whole thing, which was really cool – growing up in the NW you sorta take it for granted.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We actually really want to do that

not just Kenai, but a lot of Alaska. It’s one of the four states I have left to visit, and I need to get those knocked off the list.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I for one would love to

My dad is fairly high up in a seafood company so he jets up there once or twice a year to inspect plants and stuff. (King Cove, Port Mollar) I’ve never even been to Alaska but it sounds awesome.

by Nick S on Sep 22, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh hi it's a wiki

Yeah… those are… pretty interesting

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but completely acceptable

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call of Duty (5) : WAW

Is being made by the same people as COD3. Which is not the same people that made COD4 and COD2.

I wouldn’t be too excited for it.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, this is somewhat unfortunate

but I am still excited because Xbox 360 hasn’t had a major (non Rock Band) online game come since COD4 (the annual release of Madden doesn’t count)

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Cave tonight squeeeeeee

this is going to be a fantastic show.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's been cancelled to do a hurricane.

Quick! Run! I’ll hold the tickets!

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

due to.

Fucked up that stupid joke in a hurry.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just opened a fresh bag of Peete's coffee.

Heaven in a bean!

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 9:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Peet's"

“Peete” just makes me think of Rodney Peete.

Or is Rodney making coffee these days?

by marc w on Sep 22, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A cuppa' joe and smile everymorning for the wife.

Holly Robinson makes my eyes smile. I just googled his wiki page, I didn’t realize he was a star third baseman for the Trojans, and drafted by Toronto and Oakland.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rodney Peete

one of the most underrated Trojan athletes of all time.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His wife is very pretty.

I loved 21 Jump Street as a kid.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgot she was on that.

How does Depp do it? I swear he hasn’t aged but two weeks since they canceled that show.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My wife asks this question about movie stars all the time

and my answer is always the same: when you have bazillions of dollars you can afford to do whatever it takes to always look young.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That anti-aging clinic stuff gives me the creeps.

The advantages of the capital class.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loving the Peet's this morning.

I’ve been drinking Folger’s for the last 2 weeks. Best cup I’ve ever had is years ago. Had a roommate in the army from Jamaica, he brought back a couple pounds of coffee beans from a visit home. Not too shabby.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamaica produces great beans so I've heard.

I don’t partake much myself but my father is a long time coffee addict and he makes a similar claim as yours.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking what made his beans so much better.

May have been being right from the source. Vine ripened and all that, whatever the equivalent is for coffee beans. I’ve never had better, and that includes shelling out for some Blue Mountain.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, are you the same Matthew that writes the THT dailies at the Hardball Times?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's our Matthew.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is that?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the wisest things my mother ever said to me applies here

“Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answers to”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read this as 'hair lip'.

Corco tickled my funny bone with the MLA conversation, it’s getting a little too silly.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lived on a coffee plantation in Nicaragua for a short, short spell.

No coffee has ever compared, but my allegiance to Central American coffee was pretty well sealed.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This made me think of this moment in a great movie:

“When I was a little girl, I developed early. By the time I was fourteen I had this body you’re looking at. Can you imagine that?”
“I don’t want to, no.”
“Well, needless to say, I got a lot of male attention.”
“Like men, yes.”
“Especially from our Guatemalan gardener, Javier.”
“Okay.”
“You know, Javier…before he made passionate yet gentle love to me for the first time…he serenaded me with a beautiful old Guatemalan love song.”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Powerful?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Powerful allies.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With which you will likely harm yourself

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

define or they don't exist.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We were close enough as it was

And I assumed the good people of San Diego would do the right thing and deliver the basket to the man with the biggest frown in town

by Robert on Sep 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How you're still unbannable is beyond me.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want some great coffee

If you’re ever back in town, Trabant Coffee in the U District always has a variety of Central American blends (and various others) that they brew by the cup in a Clover machine.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the tip, I've yet to go in there.

I should make it fast, I’m noticing a few coffee shops with the windows shuttered these days.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they'll be replaced by new coffee shops in a week or two

this IS Seattle, after all.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trabant's grown well and does great business

They opened a second shop in Pioneer Square and show no signs of slowing down, so that’s positive.

That said, be warned that, because it’s specially prepared to order, they charge more for a cup of drip coffee.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, anthing they charge in this town is too much. For drip.

I’ve never developed a taste for the latte’s and all that, despite a stint as a coffee slinger during college. I have a thing for trying to brew the perfect cup of coffee. It’s like a green thumb, some people have a talent for it. I suck, but it gives me something to do.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I most certainly will be back in town.

And hopefully I’ll be accepted to UW, too, so I’ll have plenty of opportunity to check this place out. Thanks!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Steve Phillips, I do hope you're hired as our GM.

It’ll make it that much easier for me to leave this wretched franchise behind.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This franchise has been behind me for a long time.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

So I have the house to myself today, metaphorically speaking

the two people with which I share a cube are both gone today, so I have the whole cube to myself. It’s ridiculous how much more work I’m getting done today. Silence is a beautiful thing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Had the house to myself for the weekend, literally.

I plumbed the kitchen and utility rooms for natural gas, you can’t get that stuff done with kids around.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get my house to myself for most of the rest of the year

My wife’s doing a lot of travel for her work starting next week. Don’t imagine for one minute that I will take advantage of that absence to get stuff done around the house. I admire those that do.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always wanted a gas range in my house.

Plus the wife has zero confidence in my abilities, I think she expected a smoking hole in the ground when she got home. Once you turn off the main, it’s just a piece of pipe. Kind of fun, except for the patching/taping/mudding/repainting. I hate that crap.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, it's the "excepts" in that sentence that make it something I don't want to do.

I got annoyed when we were hanging our curtain rod this weekend. I can’t imagine doing “real” renovations – I would end up connecting the gas main to the kitchen faucet, or hooking the garbage disposal to the clothes dryer or something.

And I’m really not exaggerating all that much.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figuring things out is fun for me.

I wouldn’t say I’m an expert in plumbing a house, but at least now I’ve done a bit. The list of ‘excepts’ is my drudge work. Really the most important part, how it looks as a finished product will sway my wife’s opinion immediately. So its a bit more time consuming than I would prefer.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Success! The gas piping survived a 24 hr. pressure test!

Couldn’t help but announce that, this was a big home improvement project for me, with the downside being a smoking hole in the ground and a debris littered neighbourhood.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Home, Eastern Europe, it's all the same, right?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it.

This is the first place where I’ve had to share space – it doesn’t suck as much as I thought, but it’s still not optimal. One of the other two people is leaving in two weeks, so it’ll be down to just the two of us which will be a lot better.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst opening band ever?

The above discussion about Smash Mouth and Kings Of Leon made me wonder what the worst opening band I’ve ever seen was. I came up with four:

1. Spin Doctors, opening for the Rolling Stones at the Kingdome. We showed up an hour late in an effort to miss them, but they were about an hour late taking the stage, so we saw most of their set.
2. Crash Test Dummies, opening for Elvis Costello at the Paramount. When “mmm mmm mmm mmm” is your most energetic song, you’ve got a problem.
3. Stabbing Westward, opening for KISS at the Tacoma Dome. I don’t like Nine Inch Nails, granted, but this band was a cheap NIN ripoff and really pretty much sucked.
4. The stream-of-consciousness hippie whose name I never got that opened for Peter Murphy at the Aladdin. It was like watching a 60’s beat poet, and not in a good way. And then after we sat through that, Peter Murphy never took the stage – he got sick. Probably from the smell of patchouli backstage.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When I saw Sigur Ros in '02 they had a singer-songwriter from Iceland open for them.

I can’t remember the guy’s name, but english was his second language, but it might as well have been his 6th language, based on his grasp of it. I kid you not, he had a six-minute song in which he spent the entire song droning, “The elephant man, the elephant man…”

by Phildopip on Sep 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that Who tour

and managed fortunately to miss Counting Crows.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed Skeater Kinney's many runs as PJ's opener too

even though I saw shows on three of those tours.

>:( >:( >:(

:( )

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never seen Pearl Jam

but I’ve seen S-K about a dozen times, and they never disappointed. I’d still like to see Pearl Jam one of these days – I find their studio records a bit boring and monotonous, but everything I’ve ever heard of them live is pretty great.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the thing about PJ

Is they have almost zero bad songs, and athey’ve never done a bad record, but at the same time, they only have two truly great records (VItalogy and Riot Act for those keeping score). If they weren’t the awesome live band they are I probably wouldn’t be half as interested.

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I've never actively DISLIKED a PJ record

they just leave no impression. I’ve heard a couple of the official bootlegs, though, and they seem to be an impressive live band.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They've written a song for the Cubs, it's up on their website.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Eddie's song

and it’s not new, he was playing it last year too.

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I didn't know that. Somebody mentioned it to me yesterday.

I’ve never kept up with Eddie Vedder’s side projects. Chris Cornell’s used to be pretty good, early on I preferred his solo stuff. His post Soundgarden work, not so much.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't feel bad

it wasn’t officially released until a few days ago

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are a VERY impressive live band.

One of the few bands I’ve paid to see multiple times.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll go with the reverse.

I saw MuteMath open for The Fray.

MuteMath is tremendous live. Two minutes into The Fray, we left.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully you went for Mutemath

because if you actually paid money to see the Fray, I’d have some fears about you.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, went for the opener.

But still, I liked a song by The Fray (I’m content enough in my musical tastes to say this) so I figured might as well see what they’re like live.

No need.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blind Boys of Alabama didn't suck

but they played a 20 minute version of If I Had a Hammer and were probably a bad choice to open for Tom Petty

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's an odd choice

the one time I saw Petty, the Replacements opened for him. That was…odd. I went mostly for the Replacements – as did a few diehards – and as the Petty fans filed in they started booing like crazy; the Replacements cut their set short because they were getting drowned out by rednecks. Which was annoying. But Petty was surprisingly good.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check out the results of this poll.

National economy
Getting better Staying the same Getting worse Undecided
Sep 2008 – 13% 82% 5%

I have never seen a 0% on a poll before. My 401(k) is sinking.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to be pre-emptive

ZOMG NO POLITICS.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first one.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But without even getting into the politics in this, it is sort of amazing.

I’m a big poll watcher, and I’ve never seen a 0. You could have a poll about killing small children by beating them to death with kittens, and you’ll get at least 1 that didn’t listen to the question and say yes.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SBN ated my %...

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't touch your 401k

it’s there for your retirement, which unless you’re 50 is a long ways away. Just make sure it’s well-balanced (don’t put all your eggs in one fund, so to speak), and leave it alone. It’ll rebound.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's some good advice. I need to put you next to my wife, she's freaking out.

Like our house, we just bought it for less than the listed price, but I’m still expecting it to be worth less than we paid 12 months from now, my neighbors are all hot about it, and keep asking me what I paid. What the hell do I care? I’ll think about it 20 years from now when I want to sell it and move up or out.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I spent 14 years in the 401k industry and my wife still works in it

and the amount of panic people display when things like this happen always makes me laugh. I still think that the ability of the “common person” to trade stock is to blame, and is a bad thing – people see the Dow (which is the RBI of economic indicators, but that’s another story) drop 400 points and they see their 401 drop in value by 10% in a week and they freak out, because they forget that the whole point of a RETIREMENT FUND is for it to be there when you RETIRE. Any historical chart of stock indices shows a net gain over 40 years; there are definitely dips in there, but by and large, allocate your 401k money according to your age and risk tolerance, adjust it AT MOST once a year, and otherwise forget it exists.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am 28 and as of right now my 401k is sitting at $102,000.

Merrill Lynch has done pretty well for me, but their recent headlines have me nervous.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sir are an exemplary exception to the rules of retirement planning

The average age of people with that sort of balance in their 401k is about 55. Keep dumping in as much money as possible and you’ll be fine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My long term goals:

Keep paying at least 7% into 401k which is matched by my employer.
Save $1000 a month and invest it.
Retire early and live off investments.
Purchase the Seattle Mariners.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your employer matches at 7%?

That’s unbelievably rare in this day and age. Most companies have dropped their match to some crazy formula like 100% of your first 2, 75 of your next 2, and 50 of your next 1%.

Viva big oil!

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

7.5% to be exact.

I used to put in 20% but dropped it down to 7% for some extra spending cash. My savings account is now back to my pre living in downtown Seattle for a year days.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the matching funds.

It’s like giving yourself a pay raise. I don’t even care what benfits my employer is getting out off it. That 7% seems a bit WOW HOLY SHITBALLS! Is that the combined yous/theirs?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can put in as much as 40%

My employer matches 7.5% no matter what. Even if I don’t contribute a dime.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa, nice deal.

Diving pay is getting astronomically better, but the benefits are a bit lacking compared to that. Wait, my wife works for a big time local hospital, and her benefits aren’t that good. Between the concerts, benefit packages, and fishing, some of you guys are making me slightly envious.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you, GOM workboats generally suck.

We nicknamed the last one I was on ‘the Floating Tetanus Shot". Double overtime is the only thing that makes it financially worth it. The diving can be a rush sometimes, but I think my adrenaline rush days are behind me. Except for kayaking. That still gives me a rush. And setting a hook, that does it too. Ok, guess I’m not dead/overthehill/completely cynical and jaded about life yet.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and the depth pay.

Trying to explain depth pay is always good for a laugh.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We get pay for working with oil based mud.

Is it like that, a hazard pay?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never heard of that one.

Can’t say as I’ve ever spoken at length to anyone associated with the drilling side of the business. I’ve heard of drilling mud, but not the “oil based” deal.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, you’d be better off putting tables in vertical mode, or turning them into a picture.
Ex:

  • Getting better – 0%
  • Staying the same – 13%
  • Getting worse – 82%
  • Undecided – 5%

Unfortunately, SBN strips out any attempts to make a table in the comment…

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have just previewed to be on the safe side, but I am a trusting sort.

Was not bringing the info for any kind of political slant, I was just shocked that a national poll actually had a zero percent.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that is pretty crazy

I just pre-empted it because all it takes is one person to start delving into the reasons behind that zero percent, and then it’s TAKE ME DOWN TO CLUSTERFUCK CITY WHERE THE POSTS ARE BAD AND damn I can’t think of a way to finish the line.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

oooh I like that.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soap in a sock, nothing like a blanket party.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This doesn't imply that you aren't watching.

Maybe you’re busy from all the hidings and bannings.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A person at my work posted NKOTB tickets on the intranet sales board.

He wants to sell them.

Should I just email him a “WTF?” or should I make the trek in person to laugh in his face?

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's worth the trek.

Tell me where your office is and I’ll make the trek too.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NJ.

It’d be a trek about 1000 miles too long from Seattle.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they're sold, before I had a chance to go and laugh at him.

I’m sort of sad.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it slipped by me this weekend

But UNLV football won AGAIN, this time withstanding a big comeback by Iowa State to win in OT 34-31.

May we see RUNNIN REBEL FEVER in a bowl game this year?

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine how many sexual assaults/players busted with E or pot or crack

/domestic violence complaints/whatever the hell else players do before they transfer to UNLV?

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch out, Boise

Hide the women and children before the Humanitarian Bowl

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for the following

1. Rose Bowl
1a. BCS National Title Game
2. Sugar Bowl
3. Fiesta Bowl
4. Orange Bowl
5. Cotton Bowl
6. Gator Bowl
7. Peach or Chick-fil-A or whatever the hell it’s called now Bowl
8. Holiday Bowl
9. Sun Bowl
10. Independence Bowl
11. A couple of other bowls that don’t entirely suck

Conclusion – the Humanitarian Bowl doesn’t suck, but it’s not great either

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This reminds me of something...

Ahem…

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How on Earth could Iowa be better than Alaska?

I could see Wyoming maybeeee if you were a super warm-weather person, since Yellowstone has a longer period of nice national park viewing weather but Iowa??

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More corn.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 2001

Corn production in Iowa: 1,664,400
Corn production in Nebraska: 1,139,250

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

State University Mascots

Iowa – Hawkeyes
Nebraska – Cornhuskers

Do THAT math!

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

California must be proficient in the output of banana slugs, highlanders, bears, bruins (uh, wait, same thing?), aggies, tritans,and golden bobcats.
Just to name a few.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

UC Merced!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How on earth did I forget the Anteaters?

So prolific in California.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes yes yes yes

UCI is the second best UC anyway, after UCLA.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're ranking by location?

This really endears me more to the UC system.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iowa has an absolutely beautiful countryside

Nebraska does too

Alaska wins on scenery- it’s just too remote

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate air travel

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love a road trip up to Alaska

But when I want to vacation to…say…Iowa…that’s a hell of a long drive and it would get annoying driving all the way down to the United States every weekend

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found it more funny that a overly long list was created in a thread that involved Corco.

And more so, it wasn’t Corco.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See below for another opportunity!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't say states.

Just said list.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate air travel

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, so rerank the states then

assuming that between now and whenever you go tripping, someone invents instant teleportation, but it can only teleport you to certain areas of states (e.g. you would/could still drive around to your hearts content)

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy

1. Ohio
2. Idaho
3. Kentucky
4. West Virginia
5. Washington
6. Alaska
7.Tennessee
8. Maine
9. Wisconsin
10. Minnesota
11. Vermont
12. Colorado
13. Oregon
14. New Hampshire
15. Iowa
16. Pennsylvania
17. Wyoming
18. Nebraska
19. North Carolina
20. Virginia
21. Maryland
22. Rhode Island
23. Hawaii
24. Montana
25. Utah
26. New Mexico
27. South Dakota
28. Illinois
29. South Carolina
30. Indiana
31. Missouri
32. North Dakota
33. Georgia
34. Nevada
35. Arizona
36. Delaware
37. Florida
38. Alabama
39. Arkansas
40. Louisiana
41. Kansas
42. Mississippi
43. Oklahoma
44. Texas
45. Massachusetts
46. Connecticut
47. New York
48. New Jersey
49. California
50. Michigan

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Odd order to put them in IMO (Hawaii at 23 for a guy who loves to drive?),

but hey, knock yourself out.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That too

I really want to ride the Superferry

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But no interstates.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interstates H-1, H-2, H-3 and H-201

Google it

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Technically, H2 is an interstate

and I believe 1 and 3 are as well

I can now see that I am late

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh.

Apparently it is an urban legend that Hawaii has no interstates.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems a good investment after we open Scrappy's.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we build one over the Bering Strait as well?

We need more access to Siberia.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll bribe them.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this

An Anchorage-Vladivostok expressway would move Alaska way way up the list

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is hilarious to me.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Engineers are already planning it.

When asked why one of them responded “Because we can.” The biggest hurdle are the large icebergs that would crush the support system.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Puerto Rico has them too

Also unsigned but I-PRI1, I-PRI2, I-PRI3

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alaska also has interstates

They are unsigned and not up to standards but the AAHSTO considers Alaska 1, 2 and 3 to be interstates A-1, A-2, and A-3

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To us they are:

the Glen Highway, the Parks Highway, and the Seward Highway.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To locals yes

To road maps no

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need to mapquest these.

I picture a nascar driver’s wet dream, a giant circular highway, one giant left turn.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They aren't up to Interstate standards

The AAHSTO granted Alaska an exemption much like Wyoming’s Interstate 180

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been warned against 'corco' baiting.

And mentioning McCall ID. I was expecting some McCall hating, but I’ve been checking out your blog and found a few answers through that avenue.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

which blog?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WA highways.

Haven’t checked out Corcotopia as yet. I’m trying to avoid bouncing from one item to another as I discover them, like a pinball. I’ll never get to some things I’ve yet to check out. Also, lots of actual bookreading to keep up with.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corcotopia is pointless

Good to see someone other than weird road people are reading WA Highways

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sunday drives used to be a favorite pastime.

There’s a backstory there, but it’s too close to liveblogging to mention. Eastern WA and the panhandle of ID were some of my favorite places to spend a weekend tooling around.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude- it's Hawaii

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to live there, I'm not knocking the state.

It’s just not a great place for “road trips”.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawai'i kinda sucks, IMO

it’s definitely on my bottom ten states to live in, unless I got super rich and moved to Maui.

Don’t ever think I could live on Oahu.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The big Island

and Kauai are both quite livable if you have a good job.

The tourist islands suck IMO.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh, except the north side, I wouldn't want to

I’m fine when I’m visiting family, but I would hate the schools (I already have an inherent dislike for Punahou ppl, despite some of my best friends having gone there), and hate how laid back it was.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoy the laid back nature

It sets it apart from mainland US craziness which should be the point of tropical island life.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just stay away from the tourist crap, and any island can be nice.

You get to know the local spots.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a fan of Oahu.

I lived on Maui. I’d never move there unless I was rich, but it’s a beautiful place if you can afford it.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the same list?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no cross compare

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like too much effort.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who lists Ohio first

is a madman. Unless it is on a list of shittiest states and then they have some argument.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wrong

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is nothing good about Ohio

just a dreadful state.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wrong

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.

I’m excited for your team if they continue to do well. At least someone isn’t having the season from hell.

P.P.S. I TOLD YOU SO ABOUT RICK DAMMIT

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. I am more shocked than anything else

that they’re at all competitive, let alone beating teams.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beating BCS conference teams, to boot

albeit bad BCS conference teams, but whatever

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On second thought, they'd probably get the Las Vegas Bowl

because it’s in their backyard, would give them a built-in ticket sales base (they probably wouldn’t travel well), and they wouldn’t have to lobby hard for a spot.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'd beat UCLA on a special teams gaffe too

like what happens every time we play in the Las Vegas Bowl

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of that last game

Holy crap, BYU. Just beat everyone by 6 touchdowns, why don’t you

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They probably think they need to run up the score

to make a statement of their worthiness, especially after barely beating UW.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough

I still enjoy that ucla’s loss was by as many points as all of USC’s combined losses since PC got hired.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

COD - World at War

Treyarch :(

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also man is the Pac 10 fucking shitty this year

1 ranked team, 1. You assholes are making it impossible to talk to SEC chumps.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least we're good at basketball

Every team but Oregon State has a chance to make the NCAAs this year, though I’d be lying if I said I thought sc or Oregon have a better than 25% shot

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think for USC

it depends a bit on how the Stephenson thing plays out. If he can play then we might have a shot.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt he gets the hardship waiver, since it sounds like his dad is going to be OK and he really did want to be closer to home

but they were playing six men last year as it was, and the two best players are now in the NBA (well one of them is). I’m not seeing where the depth is coming from. I think UW is the big sleeper this year. They’ve got too much talent to not be at least competitive.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly think we'll be worse

but Floyd gets these guys to buy into his defensive system which as we’ve seen for Wazzu can work pretty well.

The real trouble will be coming up with points. I have a feeling we’re gonna resemble some of those low scoring WSU teams.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I played intramural softball with this guy

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/diarra_mamadou00.html

One of the most uncoordinated, ungraceful athletes I’ve encountered.

And of course the team I was on opted to play him over me, despite the fact that I’m better.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can't even hold a bat right!

And he runs like a 3 year old.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, he's an RS FR this year?

Who am I thinking of then? Who was that other tall African guy you had at center a few years back?

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap

I know who you are talking about but the name escapes me.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That ASU loss

didn’t help.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, I totally forgot they played UGA this weekend

must have just blocked it out of my mind. Though I think I’m happy that ASUBoyd is probably sad right now.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

at the very least Georgia didn’t look that great and when ASU finishes 6-6 and USC hangs 40 on them again it’ll be even less impressive.

“You only scored 27 on a 6-6 ASU team? We hung 40 on them, AGAIN.”

I knew coming into the year that ASU wasn’t anywhere near as good as people thought. They still can’t run the ball and they still have no line.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grrr

I hate the truth.

by AZSEAfan on Sep 22, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly the Big Ten is better

3! 3! ranked teams

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If some natural disaster took out 8 of the Big Ten schools

they’d STILL have 3 ranked teams.

The Big Ten is without question the worst ‘major’ sports conference, and yet voters always have 6-7 football teams ranked and try to argue for 7 teams to go to the NCAA tournament. Drives me up the wall. It’s this kind of lazy, unthinking bias that puts the Buckeyes in the impossible job of trying to stay with a good football team in the Nat’l Championship game, and the kind of thing that leads people to forecast a ‘close game’ when they play USC.

by marc w on Sep 22, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm beginning to agree

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two days until the NBC non-Hulu premiere of Knight Rider!

KITT transforms!

Does David Hasselhoff have compromising pictures of NBC network executives? How many people gave this a seal of approval? And why do they still have that power?

Or perhaps the nefarious monstrosity that spawned Hole In the Wall is responsible. Hmm…

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Per Rotoworld

 
According to the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Carlos Silva is uncertain to make his final scheduled start of the season Thursday because of ongoing back problems.
Silva coughed up five runs in 3 1/3 innings in his last start and is 4-15 with a 6.46 ERA in 28 starts overall, so skipping him could hurt the Mariners’ draft position.

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The discussion up there reminded me of a discussion we had the other night.

If you were to visit one country per month for one year, which 12 countries would you choose?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Easy

January- New Zealand
February- Australia
March- Singapore
April- South Africa
May- United States
June- United Kingdom
July- Belize
August- Ireland
September- Canada
October- Liberia
November- Sierra Leone
December- Fiji

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you have this ready to go?

And are there particular reasons, especially for Sierra Leone in November?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They speak English, are in Africa, and it's close to Liberia

I figure by November I’m going to be sick of traveling and won’t want to go very far

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew he was trying for English.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck other languages

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's true

I have gone through college always being the first one finished with tests

And I know the material but I usually get ho-hum grades because I went so fast I missed some detail in the directions

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've done that.

Last test I wrote my answer out, took a minute to breathe, looked back at my test and made sure I didn’t stop proofreading until at least a couple of people left the room.

We’ll see what the results are.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 22, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corco in Africa

Why is the thought hilarious to me?

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant

May – United States

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This argument was entered in the original discussion.

Considering the vastness of the US and all that there is to do, we figured it could be one of the 12, as it’s likely you would go places you’d never been.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice to go home for a month

Canada in September is the same sort of deal

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That works.

But for me, I am going to take full advantage of an all expense paid tour around the world.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If all expenses paid they can pay for a car rental and lodging for a month for me to drive highways

I can blow out a state or two with a month of 12 hour drives

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But are you really "seeing" them at that rate

or just “checking them off a list”? Seems like you’d want some time in there to explore the state.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be driving every mile of state highway in the state

Even if I’m in every town for 45 seconds I have still seen more of t he state then someone who spends a month in one city

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is my dilemma

I don’t count myself as having been to Minnesota, because I’ve only ever been to the airport, and never set foot outside it – even though I’ve been through that airport eleventy billion times. Seems to me that driving the roads for the sake of just driving them is the same – wouldn’t you need to stop and get out every now and again?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well obviously.

If you drove 6 AM to 6 PM every day you’d spend your nights and evenings in hotels and get to see those individual towns you stay in then

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you're only in a small part of Minnesota, and not really looking out the windows.

At least while driving a state, you see it.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if you're just driving through the state, and do not stop,

does that count as having “been there”? The standard I adopted for myself when I decided to see all 50 states is that I had to step foot in at least one city (not just in the airport), and spend money there (be it on lunch or admission to a museum or whatnot).

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that's really really easy

If I spent a month in a state would I just not eat or sleep for a month?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your original comment read to me as if you were driving through not stopping

but yeah, if you’re spending a month in a state covering all its roads, that definitely counts.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh ok

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good standard.

I must stop at at least one location, be it a tourist trap or a small town. Typically this involves spending money, but not always.
I’m at 27.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a dillemma

As it pertains to Minnesota. I’m not sure if I’ve been there or not.

I arrived at the Houston airport at 9 PM.
I got in a hotel shuttle and went to a hotel about 30 minutes from the airport.
I ate dinner in the hotel restaurant
The next morning I got back in the shuttle and went to the airport and flew away

I don’t think I can therefore say I have been to Minnesota

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Houston=Minneapolis

Yikes

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say no.

I was there less than a day, but I made it out to Northfield, so I say yes.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we accept this as cheating then, no?

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that doesn't even come close to counting as "going to all 48 states"

that’s more like a slow-motion Cannonball Run.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think it's pretty cool.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 22, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have been cooler if it were one guy instead of 3

3 guys driving 24 hours means that some probably weren’t even awake during entries and exits to states

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they really stuck to the speed limits the whole way

I’d imagine that this can be done a hell of a lot faster, like 15-20% faster at least

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it looks like they averaged 65 MPH

which is good but certainly beatable. If you went 5 over the whole way I’d bet you could beat it by a lot

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by I'm NOT Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs