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The Official Off-Topic FanPost of the Day, 9.22.08

Thoughts for the day, since I don't link dump in my OTFPOTDS

- What the hell, how is it already almost October?

- Who here is awesomely excited for COD - World at War?

- The Office premieres on Thursday. Here's to hoping that they don't follow the F-R-I-E-N-D-S model and start sacrificing comedy for plot around Seasons 4/5 (uh-oh...) leaving only traces of comedic brilliance.

- I've never been more impressed with the Mariners than I have over the past twelve days. Just when I thought they were a lock to miss 100 losses...

- pdb's wife was probably happier than I was around 3:30 PM on Saturday

- Keep updating LLikipedia!

- Keep the dream of Scrappy's alive!

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I take it Sunday was not the new Thursday for you.

October comes after September (but I just wrote November so I’m not sure I should judge)
I have an exam Thursday night—clearly my professor was not thinking ahead
I’m finally on the Choose to Lose bandwagon, as it’s slightly less heartbreaking
I updated one this morning; what else would you like?
I’d prefer nsfw Morrow
SEA-HAWKS
Ok I tried and it just doesn’t work
Coffee is better for you

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 6:46 AM PDT reply actions  

First result under Brandon Morrow: Ms limp home after 0-11 road trip

Eighth result: “Brandon Morrow is Regressing” courtesy of one Jeffrey Sullivan
And, uh, what?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

And yes, Sunday was not the new Thursday for me

my goal this week is to limit it to only three Thursdays and maybe one Friday

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

He blogged about bloggers, apparently.

And told Katal that he could save “his buddies” some work because he never wrote that Bedard should pitch through pain.
This was during a game in which people were trying to find examples of Baker being a hypocrite.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

When does COD come out?

I wonder if I buy an Xbox in Japan, can I play American games, or play it on an American tv when I bring it back to the States?

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 7:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Shipping is awful tho...

My PS3 died this summer, I’m not sure whether to buy an Xbox or PS3 next…

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

You could play it on an American tv

but the Xbox 360 is not region free.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

So if I buy one here I can only play Japanese games on it huh? I guess I’ll just have to ship one.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

They opened for U2 last time I saw them in Seattle. They were terrible.

Though nowhere near as bad as Smash Mouth who opened the first time I saw them in Seattle.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for remindind me of the existence of Smash Mouth

I’m gonna need some grain alcohol to put that memory back where it belongs.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will defend All Star

because it’s one catchy damn pop song. Otherwise, though, they pretty much blow.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

And now it's stuck in my head.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was hungover for a ride back from a Rays game

This song came on the sat radio and literally minutes later the driver had to pull over so I could throw up on the shoulder. Some might say it was the excessive consumption of the night before, but I know the real answer. Please let it end.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loathe pop unless it is Elvis Costello

otherwise no thank you.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're missing a lot of great pop

Big Star
Matthew Sweet
Cheap Trick

just to name three.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I make up for it by listening to way too much mid-90s Rock and Awe

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

My wife was indeed happy Saturday

Her mom has been a UA football season ticket holder for about 30 years, and goes on one road trip a year, to a different stadium. This year’s trip was to Pasadena. We kept getting text updates. And then we found out later that ASU lost – my wife had a good weekend.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Of course you do

For line-of-sight obstruction, if nothing else.

by Alex B on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

What happens to the 19?

Do you then have three monitors going or do you pass the smaller one on to someone else? I wish I had the desk real estate to have two monitors going, much less three.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

How to score a goal by missing instead

From an English Championship (league below Premier League) match this weekend:

Linesman fooled by “optical illusion”

by Alex B on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 AM PDT reply actions  

That was utterly ridiculous

I hadn’t seen it yet, just read about it. What a mess. If only there were some sort of technology that could prevent such things.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard they made a way to make pictures move

like in Harry Potter. I’ve yet to see evidence of this, though

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Played it at a friends house this weekend and it was awesome.

by l0nepinemall on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I never bought the first one, but I'm considering buying this.

Is there a Rock Band 2 that comes with all the instruments, or do I have to wait?

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

October 19th is when the bundle comes out.

It comes with the game, a guitar, drum set, and microphone for $190. If you bought all those things separately, you’d be paying a lot more (game: $60, guitar: $80, drums: $100, microphone: ~$30 = $270).

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 22, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I was also considering buying the full Rock Band 1 set, then buying Rock Band 2.

But that’s probably a waste of money. Are the new instruments different?

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The drums are supposedly a bit better

the guitar is about the same.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drums are WAAAAAY better.

I played them on Friday, and holy shit they’re awesome. The guitar has a new “self-calibration” system that is supposedly pretty slick.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 22, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am actually pretty nervous about it

Granted, the last season was a complete mess because of the strike, but I thought they reeeeeally went off the rails. I’m giving this season about three episodes to be more interesting, otherwise I’m done.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Supposedly they showed the premier at Comicon and it was hailed as a return to form.

I was just watching TV after being meh’d out by last season, but I saw one of the commercials, and I was inordinately hyped. I can’t wait for it to start.

55!

by joof on Sep 22, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Season 2 was crap.

I also hate how stupid Peter is with his powers. That scene where he struggles to use telekinesis to open a door? Dude, you have the ability to phase through objects!

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

That’s one of my main fears, is that they’ll get more and more ridiculous now that they have an out for certain people; I also worry that they’ll get away from the big overarching conspiracy thing and turn into more of a find-the-random-bad-person-of-the-week sort of thing, which would be really stupid.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just want Peter to be smarter in his power usage.

The writers are all intelligent people, many of whom have written comics before, why do they forget he has all of his powers? So far the only one he uses every episode is his ability to be a douche.

You know that promo they run on NBC showiing Claire holding a gun on him and saying “I always loved you peter.”? Well it is getting some flak for being creepy because she is his nephew, since when is it not okay to tell your Uncle you love him? I do it all the time.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I skipped all of season 2

but I know I’ll watch tonight and hope its decent.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A baseball blog is responsible for turning me into a vegan

I clicked on the ChooseVeg.com ad on USS Mariner out of irrepressible boredom and watched the video. Frak the heck!

:(

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 8:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't go full vegan.

Those people are insufferably pretentious and talk waaaaaaaaay too much about their bowel movements.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any store in the Beverly Center?

Except the Mac store, which is actually pretty helpful. Especially compared to the one at the Grove.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should have gone there

but I was actually interested in buying clothes, so I went with Westside and Century City

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sharper image?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Video Only in Washington is pretty bad

I went in there once and asked for something and they told me “This isn’t Radio Shack”.

I’ve never felt more disgusted or insulted in a store in my life.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine how Robert feels.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you go full vegan, don't preach about it.

that’s all I ask.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always forget to add the qualifier

I’m all about as much personal freedom as you want so long as your personal freedom doesn’t impede on the personal freedoms of others…man.

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the same way, actually

and I really do have nothing against hobos. Or is it hoboes?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Murders and executions."

“What was that?”
“I said mergers and acquisitions.”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to return some video tapes.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you plan to abstain from honey, too?

Vegans I know are up in the air about this.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those poor sensitive bees.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Won't somebody think of the poor, defenseless soy?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bloody hell

What does leave? Beets? How do these people survive?

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cannibalism?

The official Vegan Society definition wouldn’t appear to exclude it…

The word “veganism” denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

by Alex B on Sep 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute...

…a baseball’s cover is made out of…

…alright, I’m not that convicted about this.

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paper

Baseballs are made of paper

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can make 1,000 baseballs with one animal.

It’s the baseball gloves that cause the genocide.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then they rub the balls with mud and beat them with a stick.

While thousands cheer. What will the future make of us?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

As opposed to those that talk about the after-effects of their bowel movements,

and no longer being able to drink coffee because of them?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Make sure you get a healthy diet that is not ruled by carbs

I know three different vegans that became malnourished because they did not get a good balance of protein in their diet.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad.

I am about to eat a delicious brat.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking this as well

though I just got this mug a few weeks ago and am rather fond of it.

Perhaps I will just swap this mug to home where I have a dishwasher, and bring my UCLA mug (which is more standard sized) to work.

Yes, I’m aware how much I’m enriching all of your lives with this knowledge

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm truly fascinated.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

are you feeling better?

hopefully you kicked the last of the sickness.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kicked that sickness, but my chronic illness has knocked me off my feet and I can't sit up today.

So studying while lying down…oh joy of my life.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's no good.

my wife has chronic migraines, I don’t know what your chronicness is (and I’m not fishing, really…) but stuff like that is no fun to deal with.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

joyous.

My wife, in her attempts to get her migraines diagnosed/treated (she misses, on average, 2 days of work a month because of these things), has described herself as a roulette ball bouncing around the wheel of the medical establishment. It’s no fun. But, hopefully, you’ll start getting some answers one of these days.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

My buddy's wife gets them so bad she sometimes has what are called "migraine halos"

Everyone she says has a bright light outlining their features. One was so bad once, she forget where she was and why she was there (at a job interview for added irritation) they had to call him for her to come pick her up.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps you are a victim of

Rocco Baldelli’s Disease.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not yet

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

I said I’d update people today, and though I never received any follow-up information, I owe you an explanation.

Last Thursday I contacted Jeff out of the blue, as there’s been a growing negative sentiment among the mods and among a growing subset of members towards me over the last few months for reasons specifically unknown to me, but the tone of our interactions (and I’m not talking about arguments, but every interaction on this blog) made it very clear. The argument on Thursday about managers and Riggleman was one of the byproducts. (I’ll admit I let my thought process get off the rails and suddenly I was debating red herrings unchecked… and badly too)

But whether or not that had happened, there was a problem, and if I said nothing, eventually things would only get worse and who knows what would have happened. The blog’s also changed considerably since I first joined. The environment is a LOT more hostile, and not just because of how the team’s doing, but in general as to how people interact with one another. USSM may have described this place as the frathouse to their classroom, but at least this place was a friendly frathouse.

So I contacted him out of the blue Thursday and, instead of debating the state of relations and the blog, I simply offered to leave quietly, no questions asked, if he wished. I offered to, if he concurred, to keep things on the down low and, if anyone pestered me, to direct any inquiries to him and leave any formal explanation to the other mods.

After about a day, he contacted me with a carefully worded e-mail to inform me that he and the trimvirate decided to demod me, but that he would not force me to leave (he would only say that I may leave if I wish) because I have friends on the blog and that, having met me, they can certify I’m a ‘good person’. The official reason cited for demodding was that they hated some of the things I did and that they reflected badly on the triumvirate. No specifics were given beyond that.

However, he did not specify whether or not I would continue writing the wrap-ups (the original reason I was granted mod status long ago was to post them). I followed up with him and asked him to verify whether or not he wanted me to continue for 2009. I gave it the entire weekend, made a good faith effort to continue participating in discussion, and even volunteered to attend LL Football.

As of this morning, Jeff never responded about my writing status. With no statement of confidence, I can only assume it’s over.

I’ve wavered back and forth about whether I want to continue participating here. For one, I do have a lot of friends here, but on the other I do have a lot of enemies, and among them are some, if not all, of the remaining writers for this blog. I may be argumentative, but a lot of us, and to date I’m still not exactly sure how I rub some people the wrong way. I fear that, in light of how some hated members were baited and/or banned from this site (some of which were bigger asshats than others), if I continue to participate, people would still hold their grudges, things would only continue to slide, and things, one way or another, still would not end well, even on my best behavior.

So while I’m not ready to say goodbye, I’m probably going to cut back. I like the off topic threads and I’ve never had any real problems here, so I may continue to participate in these, but I think I’m done otherwise. Obviously, if there’s rich information within, you can’t just stop reading the writing on this blog. You’d do yourself a disservice to cut yourself off completely like that. Perhaps, eventually, I’ll fade out completely, and quietly. We’ll see, and we’ll see what direction this blog takes in the future.

To conclude, here’s a fun fact: I no longer have access to any of the wrap-ups I’ve posted. I can read them, but I cannot edit them, since only writers can edit them and, by being demodded, I am no longer considered a writer by SBN. The triumvirate could, if they wanted, deface all of them and turn them into Club LL Volumes 3 through 439 if they wanted to.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 8:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Addendum

And I could amend this to death, but I’ll say this: my decisions boiled down to the reasons why I participate here, and I’d like to think that, like anyone else, it’s for enjoyment. And if that enjoyment disappears, then it’s probably time to go.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would miss you.

I have always enjoyed talking with you and I love your wrap-ups. I wasn’t even aware there was a problem. This season has been rough on everyone, especially those who have an obligation (so to speak) to write about the team daily. Perhaps all involved will feel different in the spring?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully we'll all feel differently on Monday

once this horrific season is over. There are times when the losing is comical, even genuinely amusing, but for the most part, this has been the shittiest season of all time. I think we’ll all be better off once the Mariners are done playing “baseball.”

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be really nice

I doubt it, though.

I will add that I do like and respect Matthew, Jeff and Graham as writers and people, and that if nothing else is why it bothers me so much.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the risk of sounding like I'm clueless (which never stopped me before)...

…I’m not sure where the perception of you as “hated” or “having enemies” comes from. I don’t know your interactions with the mods, and there’s no need to go into detail about it here, but apart from the random odd plant-your-flag-and-defend-it-even-when-there’s-no-need-to-do-so moment, I haven’t really seen the dramatic degradation of relations between you and the community that you describe in your email.

I don’t participate in game threads, so maybe it’s different in there, but I hope that this decision is made based on the facts, not on a possibly mistaken perception.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Longest hyphenated phrase ever.

This may not be the time to point it out, but damn that thing is beautiful.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

The hostility would occur outside of arguments/discussions, often out of nowhere

If it only happened in arguments, that would be totally understandable.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's unfortunate,

although this may not be the proper forum for direction this discussion is taking.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully you'll continue to post here though,

I think you are a good poster. That’s one of the things that makes this blog great is the amount of quality posters.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, by and large the game threads are fine

People’s focus generally remains on the game and they can still be fun.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll admit to being a touch confused then

but either way I hope you’re still around for the OTFPOTDs and whatever else might go on around here

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm not really a regular here, sort of an on-and-offer,

but I will miss your wrap-ups. I didn’t even know there were issues between the mods.

This place does get a little hostile sometimes, but I don’t think that is necessarily a reflection on the people here. Moreso jsut the freedom the internet gives people to say things to other and about others they wouldn’t normally say.

Anyway, I hope everything is peacefully resolved and you continue to participate here.

by brayden04 on Sep 22, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, well I for one hope you can walk away saying who the hell cares.

No offense to anybody here, but this is just a blog. Informative, sure. Amusing, sometimes. That is about it.

What happens here is not real life. What matters is how you interact face to face and I found you to be pleasant and open.

Don’t let judgments from others dictate your own happiness and good luck with whatever you do.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here here.

This whole episode is far and away the most ridiculous thing that has ever happened here.

The official reason cited for demodding was that they hated some of the things I did and that they reflected badly on the triumvirate.

I’d say this reflects MUCH worse on the almighty triumvirate.

The fact that blog politics exist is the biggest hypocritical issue of all, considering LL's stance on politics.

by Goose on Sep 24, 2008 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am very sorry to see this happen.

I agree with most of your sentiments regarding this blog’s evolution- especially over the last year or so.

May you one day grace us with your awesome minor league wrapups again in the future- either here or in an other forum.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?!

When did this all go down?

I have always enjoyed your writing and opinions. Never did I imagine they weren’t welcomed. Don’t leave us, Gomez.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

- The Office premieres on Thursday. Here’s to hoping that they don’t follow the F-R-I-E-N-D-S model and start sacrificing comedy for plot around Seasons 4/5 (uh-oh…) leaving only traces of comedic brilliance.

This assumes the Friends was 1) funny at some point, and 2) not a soap opera from episode 1

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Oh, Chandler. Stop horsing around.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Friends.

I also like chick flicks and showtunes.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like plenty of fruity forms of entertainment

But dear Jesus that show is so predictable and not funny.

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate it when people revise meeting notices and don't cancel the old ones

which leads to my Outlook saying I have five meetings about the same thing in the same time and place, and I don’t know which one has the link to the most current presentation.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

My company just started using Outlook about six months ago I guess

So they’re still climbing the learning curve. One of the standards they’ve established is that, if you’re going to be out of the office or late arriving due to an appointment or whatever, you send out an all-day appointment to your team noting your absence/lateness. The thing people always ALWAYS forget to do is mark the time “free” instead of “busy” – so my calendar is completely booked through the end of the year because people don’t remember to do this.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Wiki page is best

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

1997 was a good year

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a good year.

My swim team won regions that year, I graduated high school. . . that was the last year I had no responsibilities. 1998 and on have basically been ass.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got a puppy

Said puppy is still alive

I also moved to Idaho

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

and I threw it together in 2 30-second periods

There’s little love involved

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

edit don't destroy

that’s against some wiki policy

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see the problem though

if said page is supposed to explain Corco and said page is reflective of Corco’s personality then it’s a decent contribution

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You not seeing the problem, IS the problem.

Make the images a lot smaller and you can keep the design. Don’t spew your love all over people’s monitors.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

ten four

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

also comma splice

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually not.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually yes

Standalone gerunds do not dependent clauses make

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

er that's a faulty sentence

That’s one full independent clause spliced in half by a comma as opposed to two standalone dependent clauses.

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

even more properly

 gerund phrases function as “nouns” within a sentence. “You not seeing” is the noun and “is” is the conjugated verb. Therefore one independent clause.

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you stuck in the previous century?

Commas also function to emphasize a pause, particularly in colloquial speech. Matthew is emphasizing that YOU are the problem, hence, the comma.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figure if we're going to be grammar nazis we need to adhere to some strict standards

and not devolve into using colloquial grammar

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm just up on a high horse

but I feel that to be taken seriously as an academic writer (as Matthew is with regards to baseball stats) he should not be using commas for emphasis. It’s ugly and not fully accepted yet.

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps in his posts, yes.

But then again, this man also created a new definition of “trite.”

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loathe grammar nazis and would see none of them if I had my way of it.

But you are correct that it was a misused comma. It’s a comment and I don’t feel like giving comments more than a casual second glance. There’s a difference between demanding posts be comprehensible and demanding that they follow every (ever-changing) grammatical rule.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I tend to hold comments to a somewhat lower standard than posts, myself

which I’m sure will be a HUGE relief.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

You go to UPS not a language institute.

As much as UPS enjoys dwelling on the written word, it is not at the forefront of fluctuations in language.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm actually quoting the MLA

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is all I'll say on this:

An ellipsis is the best way to illustrate a pause in speech.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

And this discussion shouldn't detract from Matthew's point

Though he nuked the Wiki entry in question, so I have no idea what this was about.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dam

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

is that a command?

Any particular river you want to see stopped?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just showing how I have troubles.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah.

And here I was ready to pour concrete. Ah well.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like salmon.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

One of the funnest things (yes. I used the word funnest.) my wife and I have done is when I took her to the Ballard Locks for the first time – she’d never seen salmon running before, and there were THOUSANDS of them (this year, there were about 12, but three years ago there was a huge run).

She was utterly fascinated by the whole thing, which was really cool – growing up in the NW you sorta take it for granted.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

We actually really want to do that

not just Kenai, but a lot of Alaska. It’s one of the four states I have left to visit, and I need to get those knocked off the list.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I for one would love to

My dad is fairly high up in a seafood company so he jets up there once or twice a year to inspect plants and stuff. (King Cove, Port Mollar) I’ve never even been to Alaska but it sounds awesome.

by Nick S on Sep 22, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh hi it's a wiki

Yeah… those are… pretty interesting

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

but completely acceptable

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Call of Duty (5) : WAW

Is being made by the same people as COD3. Which is not the same people that made COD4 and COD2.

I wouldn’t be too excited for it.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, this is somewhat unfortunate

but I am still excited because Xbox 360 hasn’t had a major (non Rock Band) online game come since COD4 (the annual release of Madden doesn’t count)

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nick Cave tonight squeeeeeee

this is going to be a fantastic show.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

It's been cancelled to do a hurricane.

Quick! Run! I’ll hold the tickets!

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

due to.

Fucked up that stupid joke in a hurry.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just opened a fresh bag of Peete's coffee.

Heaven in a bean!

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

"Peet's"

“Peete” just makes me think of Rodney Peete.

Or is Rodney making coffee these days?

by marc w on Sep 22, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

A cuppa' joe and smile everymorning for the wife.

Holly Robinson makes my eyes smile. I just googled his wiki page, I didn’t realize he was a star third baseman for the Trojans, and drafted by Toronto and Oakland.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rodney Peete

one of the most underrated Trojan athletes of all time.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

His wife is very pretty.

I loved 21 Jump Street as a kid.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot she was on that.

How does Depp do it? I swear he hasn’t aged but two weeks since they canceled that show.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

My wife asks this question about movie stars all the time

and my answer is always the same: when you have bazillions of dollars you can afford to do whatever it takes to always look young.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That anti-aging clinic stuff gives me the creeps.

The advantages of the capital class.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loving the Peet's this morning.

I’ve been drinking Folger’s for the last 2 weeks. Best cup I’ve ever had is years ago. Had a roommate in the army from Jamaica, he brought back a couple pounds of coffee beans from a visit home. Not too shabby.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jamaica produces great beans so I've heard.

I don’t partake much myself but my father is a long time coffee addict and he makes a similar claim as yours.

by Matthew on Sep 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking what made his beans so much better.

May have been being right from the source. Vine ripened and all that, whatever the equivalent is for coffee beans. I’ve never had better, and that includes shelling out for some Blue Mountain.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, are you the same Matthew that writes the THT dailies at the Hardball Times?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's our Matthew.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is that?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the wisest things my mother ever said to me applies here

“Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answers to”.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I lived on a coffee plantation in Nicaragua for a short, short spell.

No coffee has ever compared, but my allegiance to Central American coffee was pretty well sealed.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

This made me think of this moment in a great movie:

“When I was a little girl, I developed early. By the time I was fourteen I had this body you’re looking at. Can you imagine that?”
“I don’t want to, no.”
“Well, needless to say, I got a lot of male attention.”
“Like men, yes.”
“Especially from our Guatemalan gardener, Javier.”
“Okay.”
“You know, Javier…before he made passionate yet gentle love to me for the first time…he serenaded me with a beautiful old Guatemalan love song.”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Powerful?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Powerful allies.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

With which you will likely harm yourself

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

We were close enough as it was

And I assumed the good people of San Diego would do the right thing and deliver the basket to the man with the biggest frown in town

by Robert on Sep 22, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

How you're still unbannable is beyond me.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

You want some great coffee

If you’re ever back in town, Trabant Coffee in the U District always has a variety of Central American blends (and various others) that they brew by the cup in a Clover machine.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip, I've yet to go in there.

I should make it fast, I’m noticing a few coffee shops with the windows shuttered these days.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

they'll be replaced by new coffee shops in a week or two

this IS Seattle, after all.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trabant's grown well and does great business

They opened a second shop in Pioneer Square and show no signs of slowing down, so that’s positive.

That said, be warned that, because it’s specially prepared to order, they charge more for a cup of drip coffee.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, anthing they charge in this town is too much. For drip.

I’ve never developed a taste for the latte’s and all that, despite a stint as a coffee slinger during college. I have a thing for trying to brew the perfect cup of coffee. It’s like a green thumb, some people have a talent for it. I suck, but it gives me something to do.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I most certainly will be back in town.

And hopefully I’ll be accepted to UW, too, so I’ll have plenty of opportunity to check this place out. Thanks!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Steve Phillips, I do hope you're hired as our GM.

It’ll make it that much easier for me to leave this wretched franchise behind.

by BrianL on Sep 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

This franchise has been behind me for a long time.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

So I have the house to myself today, metaphorically speaking

the two people with which I share a cube are both gone today, so I have the whole cube to myself. It’s ridiculous how much more work I’m getting done today. Silence is a beautiful thing.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice. Had the house to myself for the weekend, literally.

I plumbed the kitchen and utility rooms for natural gas, you can’t get that stuff done with kids around.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get my house to myself for most of the rest of the year

My wife’s doing a lot of travel for her work starting next week. Don’t imagine for one minute that I will take advantage of that absence to get stuff done around the house. I admire those that do.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've always wanted a gas range in my house.

Plus the wife has zero confidence in my abilities, I think she expected a smoking hole in the ground when she got home. Once you turn off the main, it’s just a piece of pipe. Kind of fun, except for the patching/taping/mudding/repainting. I hate that crap.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

See, it's the "excepts" in that sentence that make it something I don't want to do.

I got annoyed when we were hanging our curtain rod this weekend. I can’t imagine doing “real” renovations – I would end up connecting the gas main to the kitchen faucet, or hooking the garbage disposal to the clothes dryer or something.

And I’m really not exaggerating all that much.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Figuring things out is fun for me.

I wouldn’t say I’m an expert in plumbing a house, but at least now I’ve done a bit. The list of ‘excepts’ is my drudge work. Really the most important part, how it looks as a finished product will sway my wife’s opinion immediately. So its a bit more time consuming than I would prefer.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Success! The gas piping survived a 24 hr. pressure test!

Couldn’t help but announce that, this was a big home improvement project for me, with the downside being a smoking hole in the ground and a debris littered neighbourhood.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it.

This is the first place where I’ve had to share space – it doesn’t suck as much as I thought, but it’s still not optimal. One of the other two people is leaving in two weeks, so it’ll be down to just the two of us which will be a lot better.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worst opening band ever?

The above discussion about Smash Mouth and Kings Of Leon made me wonder what the worst opening band I’ve ever seen was. I came up with four:

1. Spin Doctors, opening for the Rolling Stones at the Kingdome. We showed up an hour late in an effort to miss them, but they were about an hour late taking the stage, so we saw most of their set.
2. Crash Test Dummies, opening for Elvis Costello at the Paramount. When “mmm mmm mmm mmm” is your most energetic song, you’ve got a problem.
3. Stabbing Westward, opening for KISS at the Tacoma Dome. I don’t like Nine Inch Nails, granted, but this band was a cheap NIN ripoff and really pretty much sucked.
4. The stream-of-consciousness hippie whose name I never got that opened for Peter Murphy at the Aladdin. It was like watching a 60’s beat poet, and not in a good way. And then after we sat through that, Peter Murphy never took the stage – he got sick. Probably from the smell of patchouli backstage.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

When I saw Sigur Ros in '02 they had a singer-songwriter from Iceland open for them.

I can’t remember the guy’s name, but english was his second language, but it might as well have been his 6th language, based on his grasp of it. I kid you not, he had a six-minute song in which he spent the entire song droning, “The elephant man, the elephant man…”

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 22, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that Who tour

and managed fortunately to miss Counting Crows.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I missed Skeater Kinney's many runs as PJ's opener too

even though I saw shows on three of those tours.

>:( >:( >:(

:( )

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've never seen Pearl Jam

but I’ve seen S-K about a dozen times, and they never disappointed. I’d still like to see Pearl Jam one of these days – I find their studio records a bit boring and monotonous, but everything I’ve ever heard of them live is pretty great.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's the thing about PJ

Is they have almost zero bad songs, and athey’ve never done a bad record, but at the same time, they only have two truly great records (VItalogy and Riot Act for those keeping score). If they weren’t the awesome live band they are I probably wouldn’t be half as interested.

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've never actively DISLIKED a PJ record

they just leave no impression. I’ve heard a couple of the official bootlegs, though, and they seem to be an impressive live band.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

They've written a song for the Cubs, it's up on their website.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's Eddie's song

and it’s not new, he was playing it last year too.

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, I didn't know that. Somebody mentioned it to me yesterday.

I’ve never kept up with Eddie Vedder’s side projects. Chris Cornell’s used to be pretty good, early on I preferred his solo stuff. His post Soundgarden work, not so much.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't feel bad

it wasn’t officially released until a few days ago

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are a VERY impressive live band.

One of the few bands I’ve paid to see multiple times.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll go with the reverse.

I saw MuteMath open for The Fray.

MuteMath is tremendous live. Two minutes into The Fray, we left.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully you went for Mutemath

because if you actually paid money to see the Fray, I’d have some fears about you.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, went for the opener.

But still, I liked a song by The Fray (I’m content enough in my musical tastes to say this) so I figured might as well see what they’re like live.

No need.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Blind Boys of Alabama didn't suck

but they played a 20 minute version of If I Had a Hammer and were probably a bad choice to open for Tom Petty

9=8

by JI on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's an odd choice

the one time I saw Petty, the Replacements opened for him. That was…odd. I went mostly for the Replacements – as did a few diehards – and as the Petty fans filed in they started booing like crazy; the Replacements cut their set short because they were getting drowned out by rednecks. Which was annoying. But Petty was surprisingly good.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check out the results of this poll.

National economy
Getting better Staying the same Getting worse Undecided
Sep 2008 – 13% 82% 5%

I have never seen a 0% on a poll before. My 401(k) is sinking.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Just to be pre-emptive

ZOMG NO POLITICS.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The first one.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

But without even getting into the politics in this, it is sort of amazing.

I’m a big poll watcher, and I’ve never seen a 0. You could have a poll about killing small children by beating them to death with kittens, and you’ll get at least 1 that didn’t listen to the question and say yes.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

SBN ated my %...

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't touch your 401k

it’s there for your retirement, which unless you’re 50 is a long ways away. Just make sure it’s well-balanced (don’t put all your eggs in one fund, so to speak), and leave it alone. It’ll rebound.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's some good advice. I need to put you next to my wife, she's freaking out.

Like our house, we just bought it for less than the listed price, but I’m still expecting it to be worth less than we paid 12 months from now, my neighbors are all hot about it, and keep asking me what I paid. What the hell do I care? I’ll think about it 20 years from now when I want to sell it and move up or out.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I spent 14 years in the 401k industry and my wife still works in it

and the amount of panic people display when things like this happen always makes me laugh. I still think that the ability of the “common person” to trade stock is to blame, and is a bad thing – people see the Dow (which is the RBI of economic indicators, but that’s another story) drop 400 points and they see their 401 drop in value by 10% in a week and they freak out, because they forget that the whole point of a RETIREMENT FUND is for it to be there when you RETIRE. Any historical chart of stock indices shows a net gain over 40 years; there are definitely dips in there, but by and large, allocate your 401k money according to your age and risk tolerance, adjust it AT MOST once a year, and otherwise forget it exists.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am 28 and as of right now my 401k is sitting at $102,000.

Merrill Lynch has done pretty well for me, but their recent headlines have me nervous.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You sir are an exemplary exception to the rules of retirement planning

The average age of people with that sort of balance in their 401k is about 55. Keep dumping in as much money as possible and you’ll be fine.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

My long term goals:

Keep paying at least 7% into 401k which is matched by my employer.
Save $1000 a month and invest it.
Retire early and live off investments.
Purchase the Seattle Mariners.

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by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your employer matches at 7%?

That’s unbelievably rare in this day and age. Most companies have dropped their match to some crazy formula like 100% of your first 2, 75 of your next 2, and 50 of your next 1%.

Viva big oil!

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

7.5% to be exact.

I used to put in 20% but dropped it down to 7% for some extra spending cash. My savings account is now back to my pre living in downtown Seattle for a year days.

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by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love the matching funds.

It’s like giving yourself a pay raise. I don’t even care what benfits my employer is getting out off it. That 7% seems a bit WOW HOLY SHITBALLS! Is that the combined yous/theirs?

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can put in as much as 40%

My employer matches 7.5% no matter what. Even if I don’t contribute a dime.

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by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa, nice deal.

Diving pay is getting astronomically better, but the benefits are a bit lacking compared to that. Wait, my wife works for a big time local hospital, and her benefits aren’t that good. Between the concerts, benefit packages, and fishing, some of you guys are making me slightly envious.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you, GOM workboats generally suck.

We nicknamed the last one I was on ‘the Floating Tetanus Shot". Double overtime is the only thing that makes it financially worth it. The diving can be a rush sometimes, but I think my adrenaline rush days are behind me. Except for kayaking. That still gives me a rush. And setting a hook, that does it too. Ok, guess I’m not dead/overthehill/completely cynical and jaded about life yet.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and the depth pay.

Trying to explain depth pay is always good for a laugh.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never heard of that one.

Can’t say as I’ve ever spoken at length to anyone associated with the drilling side of the business. I’ve heard of drilling mud, but not the “oil based” deal.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW, you’d be better off putting tables in vertical mode, or turning them into a picture.
Ex:

  • Getting better – 0%
  • Staying the same – 13%
  • Getting worse – 82%
  • Undecided – 5%

Unfortunately, SBN strips out any attempts to make a table in the comment…

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should have just previewed to be on the safe side, but I am a trusting sort.

Was not bringing the info for any kind of political slant, I was just shocked that a national poll actually had a zero percent.

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by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is pretty crazy

I just pre-empted it because all it takes is one person to start delving into the reasons behind that zero percent, and then it’s TAKE ME DOWN TO CLUSTERFUCK CITY WHERE THE POSTS ARE BAD AND damn I can’t think of a way to finish the line.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

A person at my work posted NKOTB tickets on the intranet sales board.

He wants to sell them.

Should I just email him a “WTF?” or should I make the trek in person to laugh in his face?

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

It's worth the trek.

Tell me where your office is and I’ll make the trek too.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

NJ.

It’d be a trek about 1000 miles too long from Seattle.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

And they're sold, before I had a chance to go and laugh at him.

I’m sort of sad.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

So it slipped by me this weekend

But UNLV football won AGAIN, this time withstanding a big comeback by Iowa State to win in OT 34-31.

May we see RUNNIN REBEL FEVER in a bowl game this year?

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Can you imagine how many sexual assaults/players busted with E or pot or crack

/domestic violence complaints/whatever the hell else players do before they transfer to UNLV?

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watch out, Boise

Hide the women and children before the Humanitarian Bowl

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except for the following

1. Rose Bowl
1a. BCS National Title Game
2. Sugar Bowl
3. Fiesta Bowl
4. Orange Bowl
5. Cotton Bowl
6. Gator Bowl
7. Peach or Chick-fil-A or whatever the hell it’s called now Bowl
8. Holiday Bowl
9. Sun Bowl
10. Independence Bowl
11. A couple of other bowls that don’t entirely suck

Conclusion – the Humanitarian Bowl doesn’t suck, but it’s not great either

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of something...

Ahem…

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How on Earth could Iowa be better than Alaska?

I could see Wyoming maybeeee if you were a super warm-weather person, since Yellowstone has a longer period of nice national park viewing weather but Iowa??

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

More corn.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 2001

Corn production in Iowa: 1,664,400
Corn production in Nebraska: 1,139,250

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

State University Mascots

Iowa – Hawkeyes
Nebraska – Cornhuskers

Do THAT math!

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right.

California must be proficient in the output of banana slugs, highlanders, bears, bruins (uh, wait, same thing?), aggies, tritans,and golden bobcats.
Just to name a few.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

UC Merced!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

How on earth did I forget the Anteaters?

So prolific in California.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes yes yes yes

UCI is the second best UC anyway, after UCLA.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iowa has an absolutely beautiful countryside

Nebraska does too

Alaska wins on scenery- it’s just too remote

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate air travel

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love a road trip up to Alaska

But when I want to vacation to…say…Iowa…that’s a hell of a long drive and it would get annoying driving all the way down to the United States every weekend

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found it more funny that a overly long list was created in a thread that involved Corco.

And more so, it wasn’t Corco.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

See below for another opportunity!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't say states.

Just said list.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate air travel

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, so rerank the states then

assuming that between now and whenever you go tripping, someone invents instant teleportation, but it can only teleport you to certain areas of states (e.g. you would/could still drive around to your hearts content)

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

easy

1. Ohio
2. Idaho
3. Kentucky
4. West Virginia
5. Washington
6. Alaska
7.Tennessee
8. Maine
9. Wisconsin
10. Minnesota
11. Vermont
12. Colorado
13. Oregon
14. New Hampshire
15. Iowa
16. Pennsylvania
17. Wyoming
18. Nebraska
19. North Carolina
20. Virginia
21. Maryland
22. Rhode Island
23. Hawaii
24. Montana
25. Utah
26. New Mexico
27. South Dakota
28. Illinois
29. South Carolina
30. Indiana
31. Missouri
32. North Dakota
33. Georgia
34. Nevada
35. Arizona
36. Delaware
37. Florida
38. Alabama
39. Arkansas
40. Louisiana
41. Kansas
42. Mississippi
43. Oklahoma
44. Texas
45. Massachusetts
46. Connecticut
47. New York
48. New Jersey
49. California
50. Michigan

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

That too

I really want to ride the Superferry

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

But no interstates.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interstates H-1, H-2, H-3 and H-201

Google it

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Technically, H2 is an interstate

and I believe 1 and 3 are as well

I can now see that I am late

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Apparently it is an urban legend that Hawaii has no interstates.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yeah.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we build one over the Bering Strait as well?

We need more access to Siberia.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

An Anchorage-Vladivostok expressway would move Alaska way way up the list

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is hilarious to me.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Engineers are already planning it.

When asked why one of them responded “Because we can.” The biggest hurdle are the large icebergs that would crush the support system.

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by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Puerto Rico has them too

Also unsigned but I-PRI1, I-PRI2, I-PRI3

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alaska also has interstates

They are unsigned and not up to standards but the AAHSTO considers Alaska 1, 2 and 3 to be interstates A-1, A-2, and A-3

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

To us they are:

the Glen Highway, the Parks Highway, and the Seward Highway.

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by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

To locals yes

To road maps no

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need to mapquest these.

I picture a nascar driver’s wet dream, a giant circular highway, one giant left turn.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They aren't up to Interstate standards

The AAHSTO granted Alaska an exemption much like Wyoming’s Interstate 180

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been warned against 'corco' baiting.

And mentioning McCall ID. I was expecting some McCall hating, but I’ve been checking out your blog and found a few answers through that avenue.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

which blog?

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

WA highways.

Haven’t checked out Corcotopia as yet. I’m trying to avoid bouncing from one item to another as I discover them, like a pinball. I’ll never get to some things I’ve yet to check out. Also, lots of actual bookreading to keep up with.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corcotopia is pointless

Good to see someone other than weird road people are reading WA Highways

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sunday drives used to be a favorite pastime.

There’s a backstory there, but it’s too close to liveblogging to mention. Eastern WA and the panhandle of ID were some of my favorite places to spend a weekend tooling around.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude- it's Hawaii

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to live there, I'm not knocking the state.

It’s just not a great place for “road trips”.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hawai'i kinda sucks, IMO

it’s definitely on my bottom ten states to live in, unless I got super rich and moved to Maui.

Don’t ever think I could live on Oahu.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The big Island

and Kauai are both quite livable if you have a good job.

The tourist islands suck IMO.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, except the north side, I wouldn't want to

I’m fine when I’m visiting family, but I would hate the schools (I already have an inherent dislike for Punahou ppl, despite some of my best friends having gone there), and hate how laid back it was.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy the laid back nature

It sets it apart from mainland US craziness which should be the point of tropical island life.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just stay away from the tourist crap, and any island can be nice.

You get to know the local spots.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of Oahu.

I lived on Maui. I’d never move there unless I was rich, but it’s a beautiful place if you can afford it.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this the same list?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

no cross compare

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like too much effort.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone who lists Ohio first

is a madman. Unless it is on a list of shittiest states and then they have some argument.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

wrong

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is nothing good about Ohio

just a dreadful state.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

wrong

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

P.S.

I’m excited for your team if they continue to do well. At least someone isn’t having the season from hell.

P.P.S. I TOLD YOU SO ABOUT RICK DAMMIT

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I am more shocked than anything else

that they’re at all competitive, let alone beating teams.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beating BCS conference teams, to boot

albeit bad BCS conference teams, but whatever

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

On second thought, they'd probably get the Las Vegas Bowl

because it’s in their backyard, would give them a built-in ticket sales base (they probably wouldn’t travel well), and they wouldn’t have to lobby hard for a spot.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'd beat UCLA on a special teams gaffe too

like what happens every time we play in the Las Vegas Bowl

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of that last game

Holy crap, BYU. Just beat everyone by 6 touchdowns, why don’t you

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

They probably think they need to run up the score

to make a statement of their worthiness, especially after barely beating UW.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

True enough

I still enjoy that ucla’s loss was by as many points as all of USC’s combined losses since PC got hired.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

COD - World at War

Treyarch :(

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Also man is the Pac 10 fucking shitty this year

1 ranked team, 1. You assholes are making it impossible to talk to SEC chumps.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

At least we're good at basketball

Every team but Oregon State has a chance to make the NCAAs this year, though I’d be lying if I said I thought sc or Oregon have a better than 25% shot

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think for USC

it depends a bit on how the Stephenson thing plays out. If he can play then we might have a shot.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt he gets the hardship waiver, since it sounds like his dad is going to be OK and he really did want to be closer to home

but they were playing six men last year as it was, and the two best players are now in the NBA (well one of them is). I’m not seeing where the depth is coming from. I think UW is the big sleeper this year. They’ve got too much talent to not be at least competitive.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I certainly think we'll be worse

but Floyd gets these guys to buy into his defensive system which as we’ve seen for Wazzu can work pretty well.

The real trouble will be coming up with points. I have a feeling we’re gonna resemble some of those low scoring WSU teams.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I played intramural softball with this guy

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/diarra_mamadou00.html

One of the most uncoordinated, ungraceful athletes I’ve encountered.

And of course the team I was on opted to play him over me, despite the fact that I’m better.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can't even hold a bat right!

And he runs like a 3 year old.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, he's an RS FR this year?

Who am I thinking of then? Who was that other tall African guy you had at center a few years back?

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap

I know who you are talking about but the name escapes me.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That ASU loss

didn’t help.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I totally forgot they played UGA this weekend

must have just blocked it out of my mind. Though I think I’m happy that ASUBoyd is probably sad right now.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

at the very least Georgia didn’t look that great and when ASU finishes 6-6 and USC hangs 40 on them again it’ll be even less impressive.

“You only scored 27 on a 6-6 ASU team? We hung 40 on them, AGAIN.”

I knew coming into the year that ASU wasn’t anywhere near as good as people thought. They still can’t run the ball and they still have no line.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly the Big Ten is better

3! 3! ranked teams

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If some natural disaster took out 8 of the Big Ten schools

they’d STILL have 3 ranked teams.

The Big Ten is without question the worst ‘major’ sports conference, and yet voters always have 6-7 football teams ranked and try to argue for 7 teams to go to the NCAA tournament. Drives me up the wall. It’s this kind of lazy, unthinking bias that puts the Buckeyes in the impossible job of trying to stay with a good football team in the Nat’l Championship game, and the kind of thing that leads people to forecast a ‘close game’ when they play USC.

by marc w on Sep 22, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm beginning to agree

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two days until the NBC non-Hulu premiere of Knight Rider!

KITT transforms!

Does David Hasselhoff have compromising pictures of NBC network executives? How many people gave this a seal of approval? And why do they still have that power?

Or perhaps the nefarious monstrosity that spawned Hole In the Wall is responsible. Hmm…

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Per Rotoworld

 
According to the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Carlos Silva is uncertain to make his final scheduled start of the season Thursday because of ongoing back problems.
Silva coughed up five runs in 3 1/3 innings in his last start and is 4-15 with a 6.46 ERA in 28 starts overall, so skipping him could hurt the Mariners’ draft position.

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

The discussion up there reminded me of a discussion we had the other night.

If you were to visit one country per month for one year, which 12 countries would you choose?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Easy

January- New Zealand
February- Australia
March- Singapore
April- South Africa
May- United States
June- United Kingdom
July- Belize
August- Ireland
September- Canada
October- Liberia
November- Sierra Leone
December- Fiji

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you have this ready to go?

And are there particular reasons, especially for Sierra Leone in November?

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

They speak English, are in Africa, and it's close to Liberia

I figure by November I’m going to be sick of traveling and won’t want to go very far

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew he was trying for English.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck other languages

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's true

I have gone through college always being the first one finished with tests

And I know the material but I usually get ho-hum grades because I went so fast I missed some detail in the directions

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've done that.

Last test I wrote my answer out, took a minute to breathe, looked back at my test and made sure I didn’t stop proofreading until at least a couple of people left the room.

We’ll see what the results are.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 22, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corco in Africa

Why is the thought hilarious to me?

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant

May – United States

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

This argument was entered in the original discussion.

Considering the vastness of the US and all that there is to do, we figured it could be one of the 12, as it’s likely you would go places you’d never been.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be nice to go home for a month

Canada in September is the same sort of deal

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That works.

But for me, I am going to take full advantage of an all expense paid tour around the world.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If all expenses paid they can pay for a car rental and lodging for a month for me to drive highways

I can blow out a state or two with a month of 12 hour drives

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

But are you really "seeing" them at that rate

or just “checking them off a list”? Seems like you’d want some time in there to explore the state.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be driving every mile of state highway in the state

Even if I’m in every town for 45 seconds I have still seen more of t he state then someone who spends a month in one city

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is my dilemma

I don’t count myself as having been to Minnesota, because I’ve only ever been to the airport, and never set foot outside it – even though I’ve been through that airport eleventy billion times. Seems to me that driving the roads for the sake of just driving them is the same – wouldn’t you need to stop and get out every now and again?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well obviously.

If you drove 6 AM to 6 PM every day you’d spend your nights and evenings in hotels and get to see those individual towns you stay in then

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you're only in a small part of Minnesota, and not really looking out the windows.

At least while driving a state, you see it.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

But if you're just driving through the state, and do not stop,

does that count as having “been there”? The standard I adopted for myself when I decided to see all 50 states is that I had to step foot in at least one city (not just in the airport), and spend money there (be it on lunch or admission to a museum or whatnot).

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that's really really easy

If I spent a month in a state would I just not eat or sleep for a month?

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your original comment read to me as if you were driving through not stopping

but yeah, if you’re spending a month in a state covering all its roads, that definitely counts.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh ok

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a good standard.

I must stop at at least one location, be it a tourist trap or a small town. Typically this involves spending money, but not always.
I’m at 27.

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a dillemma

As it pertains to Minnesota. I’m not sure if I’ve been there or not.

I arrived at the Houston airport at 9 PM.
I got in a hotel shuttle and went to a hotel about 30 minutes from the airport.
I ate dinner in the hotel restaurant
The next morning I got back in the shuttle and went to the airport and flew away

I don’t think I can therefore say I have been to Minnesota

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Houston=Minneapolis

Yikes

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say no.

I was there less than a day, but I made it out to Northfield, so I say yes.

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we accept this as cheating then, no?

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that doesn't even come close to counting as "going to all 48 states"

that’s more like a slow-motion Cannonball Run.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think it's pretty cool.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would have been cooler if it were one guy instead of 3

3 guys driving 24 hours means that some probably weren’t even awake during entries and exits to states

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they really stuck to the speed limits the whole way

I’d imagine that this can be done a hell of a lot faster, like 15-20% faster at least

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it looks like they averaged 65 MPH

which is good but certainly beatable. If you went 5 over the whole way I’d bet you could beat it by a lot

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brock Yates is the man

The stupidest thing Car and Driver ever did was offering him early retirement

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

and it was hilarious how they ended at Four Corners

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't find it that exciting I guess

3 people driving can pull that off really easily

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's kind of like how I have been five feet into Montana.

I don’t really count it.

I was visiting friends in Idaho, and we drove east to go play in the snow when I saw the sign for the state line. So I ran over and jumped into the snow bank and said “Whoohoo! I’ve been to Montana!”.

But yeah, not really.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I count that more then a lot of things

You’ve at least touched native Montana ground with your shoe c overed feet

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it counts more then that

and more then driving and turning around

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I walked into a submarine once.

That makes me a Admiral!

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Incidentally,

I love this line of reasoning, and relish the times I get to use it.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I have never visited Michigan/Detroit

And I have no desire to visit Detroit ever aside from crossing Commmurica Park off my stadiums list

by Nick S on Sep 22, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no reason to visit Michigan

It’s the biggest piece of shit state ever

But if you must go then go to the UP- that’s kind of pretty

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've got four left to go

Minnesota, Oklahoma, Alaska, and Hawaii, I’m looking at you.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's like Mount Rushmore

Yes, I can pay $20 to see it. Or I can drive by it on the South Dakota State highway that drives by it and get just as good of a view

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it have to be one country/per specific month?

I’m definitely going to Dubai, England, Australia, and Japan. Also, Brazil, Taiwan, China, Spain. Then Egypt, Italy and Greece, and finish by going to Canada.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, we didn't limit it in such a way.

However, we did debate the merits of visiting countries similar to one another, ie two nations in Central America.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, I'm not limiting by month then, just saying I would always go in spring

and as to other posters, I am terrified to agree with Fogel, but I gotta see the UAE instead of Canada, and HK is now a part of China.

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hunh

January – Malaysia
February – Australia
March – England
April – Indonesia
May – Japan
June – Singapore
July – (fuck I’m running out of countries) Scotland
August – China
September – New Zealand
October – India (just for the food)
November – Malaysia
December – Singapore

by Dewey N on Sep 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, unlimited monies.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ew gay

One of my trips to Malaysia would be to go around Kuala Lumpur and the other would be to see the rainforest and go to the Cameron Highlands

by Dewey N on Sep 22, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not just say Cameroon then?

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nor is it spelled that way.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh fuck

I got Cameroon mixed up with Cambodia which I got mixed up with the Cameron highlands

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got myself thinking

January— Thailand
February—China
March—Egypt
April—Ecuador
May—Russia
June—Croatia
July— Chile
August—Tanzania
September—Turkey
October—Oaxaca, Mexico
November—Malaysia
December—Israel

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cancun > Oaxaca

Easier to pronounce too

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm been to Cancun.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cozumel > Oaxaca

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mexican beach resorts are crap.

Some of us don’t need to surround ourselves with English.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cozumel is greater then a random Mexican beach resort

Cabo yes, Cancun yes, Mazatlan yes. Cozumel no

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cozumel is much better than the rest of it

Merida is dirty

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mazatlan is dirty.

It’s the Mexico City of Mexican vacation spots.

Cabo is incredible. Cancun is apparently awesome.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Callete puta.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

*Callate

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not in my spanish.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah you're right

I just needed to do something there to make you look stupid

I failed

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know you're right and I was the one being sarcastic?

I can’t believe I’m owning up to this but, for the good of spanish, I can’t let people spell this wrong.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I really feel like an idiot

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to do this:

Jan- New Zealand / Austraila
Feb- Hong Kong / Macau
March- Japan
April- India
May- South Africa
June- Egypt
July- Greece
Aug- Italy
Sep- Ireland
Oct- England
Nov- France
Dec- Caribbean

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is an interesting question

January – Ireland (no tourists)
February – Spain (need sun after January in Ireland)
Mar – Greece
April – South Africa
May – Russia
June – Australia
July – New Zealand
August – Iceland
September – England and/or Scotland
October – Cuba
November – Fiji
December – Japan

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm.

January – Cambodia
February – Australia/NZ
March – Japan
April – Kenya
June – United Kingdom
July – Norway
August – Montenegro (uh, it’s really small; I’d probably tack on other visits to the ex-Yugoslav republics)
September – Estonia (again, I’d go to the other baltics as well)
October – Indonesia
November – India
December – Uzbekistan (I’d try to visit other Central Asian republics, but that might be stretching the rules of this game).

by marc w on Sep 22, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say the most stretched would be Australia/NZ, which many people are doing.

I doubt people could see enough of Australia in a month, much less tack on a separate nation.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could see a ton of Australia in a month

because, despite its size, the middle 85% of Australia is largely similar (other than the Uluru area) and once you’ve seen a bit of it you’ve seen the whole thing.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are, it's about the same size as the US

but if you go clockwise around the coast, starting at the Barrier Reef, it’s do-able; flying from Adelaide to Perth would be long as would Perth to Darwin, but otherwise it’s 3 hour flights or so.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's limited utility to driving around Australia

Driving around the US, at least you get different climate/geography; inland Australia is pretty much just all flat, brown desert. So flying is really the best way to get around.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be my travel schedule:

January – U.A.E.
February – Seychelles
March – Australia
April – Cambodia
May – Belize
June – Italy
July – Switzerland
August – U.K.
September – Spain
October – Israel
November – Egypt
December – Brazil

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So this OTFPOTD actually turned out nicely

I thought it was going to be the worst OTFPOTD yet with Gomez announcing his resignation and all, but NOLA and Corco saved it

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

You can't stop the OTFPOTD!

I would have felt really bad if I had derailed it, but thankfully, everyone knows better.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do what I can

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck yeah bitches

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whales take up too much space

I would never save them

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah God i'm 0-2 there

sorry

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No worries.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not

I’ll end up banned :(

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not.

You closed our grammar thread, also.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That one didn't need to be closed though

These two definitely did

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I try not to be too much of a parent

especially since I’m not actually any sort of “official” ’round here. I just try to keep things as trainwreck-free as possible.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tesla

Coming to Seattle?

Watch the video. A mass-market all-electric sedan, GT version, that accelerates 0-60 in 3.9 seconds? Yes please! That’s an American car company I can get behind.

Between that and the Volt, it’s about time. Yeah, there’s lots of issues that batteries don’t solve (and new issues that are created), but at least the R&D is there to support mitigating and/or resolving those problems.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 22, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I realize this.

Battery technology has to improve dramatically even still to make this ultimately feasible. But look at the computing world (and the fact that some of the world’s leaders in computing technology are putting efforts into this technology) and see that when you start somewhere, problems can be solved reasonably quickly. The key is to start something and get enough brainpower (and, of course, capital) behind it.

The fact that you’ve got some really really smart and really really rich people interested in this technology doesn’t hurt. Politics aside (STC!), it’d benefit everyone if we can find alternative energy sources other than combustible liquids to power our vehicles (since personal occupancy vehicles aren’t going away any time soon).

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by PositivePaul on Sep 22, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it will eventually happen

Personal vehicles are for many a necessity, and it’s for the best that society eventually develop new, renewable fuel sources for vehicles, if only because the incumbent, non-renewable fuel sources are going to dwindle over our lifetimes.

by Gomez on Sep 22, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man Wired is really good...

I’m gonna link another Wired article I read recently, about Shai Agassi and his model for an electric car infrastructure:

http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/magazine/16-09/ff_agassi?currentPage=all

the other angels fan

by Eyebrows on Sep 22, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there such a thing as a wireless webcam?

If so, does anybody know if they’re any good?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm good with DC power

I just don’t want to string 45 ft of USB cable from where my computer is to where the camera needs to be (yup, security).

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was recently in the news.

Absolutely no details, but FWIW.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh, what?

Not sure what you’re referring to here…what was in the news?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Security camera developed by a cop.

Says it’s the size of a pager, 4 hrs of video. Probably not even close to what you’re looking for. I can’t locate the original story I read, it had a lot more detail. He’s apparently forming his own company and marketing them to security specialists. Oh, link failure!

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that sounds cool

but I’m not looking for anything that small/hideable, just your basic wireless web camera/IP camera.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't the clue exactly how you go about your job.

But when I originally read about this the other day you crossed my mind. In my head your job is full of monitors, eye’s in the sky, and guys in suits grabbing people by the elbow and saying “come with us please, we’d rather not make a scene”.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mixed him up with Gomez/Goose (the last two people I get mixed up here)

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's Gomez, though.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goose.

he works in surveillance/security/something like that for a casino.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Argh.

I can tell SB and SSD apart, but not those two.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Argh myself!

If I turned the avatars back on it would probably help me keep everybody straight. My computer locks up like crazy when I do, so without the visual aid I’m screwed. At least you guys are polite about it when get your details mixed up. Appreciated.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, I've read otherwise.

But I’m making note that Faux is now Admiral of the Seven Seas.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least be seattlewildcat

why lower your standards that far?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Stop that.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Gomez is the perpetual temp that writes on Sunday mornings from a bar.

Now I’m clear…

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go ahead and mark me down as FAIL.

I’m either confusing people or defending antiquated baseball logic.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Open book, open note.

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a chemistry teacher in high school

who would allow us to bring one standard sheet of notebook paper with notes on it into every major exam. He generously allowed us to write on all six sides if we so chose. This is what passed for humor in his world.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

In college, my note sheets were legendary for two reasons

A. they were multicolored, to help me pick out information faster
B. I can write really small

I realized about halfway through sophomore year that the multi-color thing was really stupid, so I just wrote in pencil for the last two and a half years

by seattlebruin on Sep 22, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to use red for key points and black for subparts of those points

which was necessary because I have a very scattered brain and can’t write notes in an orderly manner.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I agree that multicolor helps.

Particularly with economics tests.

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to contemplate this for awhile.

My biology teacher allowed us a 5×7 index card. A few of the guys showed up with typed notes, five point font, and diagrams—along with magnifying glasses.

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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 22, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the only way to roll

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's about 180 degrees away from my job, actually

I have nothing to do with security or anything like that. I’m a humble systems analyst for your friendly neighborhood power concern (if your neighborhood is Portland and environs). I wish it was something that exciting.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's wireless IP cameras.

I think they’re better.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point me to one?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I use a couple of these.

The setup’s a bit funky, but have had no problems with operation for 8+ months. Plus they’re cheap comparatively.

I’m sure a search will find older ones that run over B wireless (this runs on G) for closeout prices, if 100 is too steep.

D-Link DCS-920

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Furthermore,

I asked a friend of mine who had set up a system for a cheap customer that didn’t want to pony up for a real DVR system.

He reported that the setup of the Linksys Wireless-G cameras was a snap, and he hasn’t gotten a service call about it yet. So you can add those to your list as well.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

One additional question. How is the video viewed, once the camera has been installed? Do I need to set up a website or does it come with software or something?

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

They both come with software.

The D-Link one runs a webserver program on your machine, and I think the Linksys ones are the same, but couldn’t tell you from firsthand experience. I’ll ask my friend and get back here when he gets back to me.

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by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about the older ones my friend used,

but the newer models of the Linksys (link here) have a webserver onboard, so all you do is visit the address of the camera and the webpage is right there. That’s a much better way of doing things.

One note, people have had lots of problems with Linksys wireless routers, but I’ve never heard the same with the cameras. Keep in mind they’re pretty good at replacing DOA equipment.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 22, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just filed a complaint against Microsoft with the Better Business Bureau

Has anyone attempted to settle a conflict with a company through the BBB? If so, were you successful in resolving whatever the issue was?

by Frosty Raptor on Sep 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, and yes

It’s a long story, but when I was fighting with Dell over returning my last piece of crap PC a couple months ago, we got to a dead end, because I had passed the 21 day return window – even though the machine didn’t fatally malfunction until after the 21 days. We went back and forth for a few days, and finally got nowhere (they wanted to repair, I just wanted a refund because I’d sunk a lot of time into repairing it at that point). So, after a week of this crap, I filed a complaint with the BBB. Within 48 hours, I got a phone call from Dell saying “we’d be DELIGHTED to make an exception to our return policy in this case!” and it was really easy working with Dell from there.

When you file your complaint with the BBB, definitely do it online – it’s trackable that way, and you can get and give status updates as the case rolls on.

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by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the BBB does is send a letter to whoever you complained about.

That company then has an opportunity to reply to that letter explaining their side of the story. The only way it helps get the situation resolved is if:

a) The company is a member of the BBB.
b) The company gives a damn if they have a complaint listed with the BBB.

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by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most big companies do give a damn.

They don’t want to take a hit to their reputation for “customer service”, however mythical that reputation actually is. At the very least a letter from the BBB gets the attention of a company and lets them know you’re pissed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you shouldn't use them,

I’m just saying it doesn’t guarantee some miraculous solution.

We receive letters from BBB a few times a year. Most of the time we respond with a letter outlining the damages the tenant did to the rental property, thus explaining why they didn’t get their deposit back.

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by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've used the BBB twice, success both times.

Both times they grilled me to make sure I had attempted to resolve the issue on my own, so keeping track of the names and times you’ve spoken to people is important. In both instances I wasn’t getting anywhere, after contacting the BBB, my phone was ringing off the hook and the problems were amicably resolved.

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by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you have a legitmate gripe, it's a great way to kick-start the resolution process.

If you’re in the wrong, or just pissed because someone at the company looked at you funny, you won’t get much out of it.

The ones that crack me up are tenants in our rental properties that do thousands of dollars of damage to the property, keep pets there against the terms of their lease, don’t clean anything, then leave in the middle of the night after not paying their rent, and then go complain to the BBB when they don’t get their security/damage deposit back.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well fuck

I took my Wii to work to play Mega Man 9 during lunch and now it might be dead. I haven’t plugged the thing in for months and now when there’s 2 games on it I want to play it dies.

Good thing MM9 comes out for 360 next week. Sucks that I won’t be able to play Wario though.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 22, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

Maple-Bacon lollipops.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

It sounds intriguing

Have you ever had a Voodoo Donut bacon-topped maple bar? That’s good eatin’. I’d be willing to try one of these.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Sep 22, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not so much the bacon-maple lollipop,

just the way my stomach feels after gorging myself at the Seahwks game yesterday (and drinking too much of too many different things as well).

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by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just stuck to beer.

God, what a good game.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a great game.

But the mix of rum and cokes, jeager and rumpleminz, beer, then rum and coke again didn’t do the intestinal track any favors. Not to mention the whole lamb that was griled at the tailgate party, followed by a massive pasta dinner when I got home. I’ve had wicked heartburn since about 11:00 last night.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeesh. I can see why.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what happens to me every time I do something like tailgating or big BBQ's.

I eat too much weird stuff, and end up mixing my alcohols, then my stomach feels crappy for a few days. I didn’t drink enough that I was hungover (plus I mixed in a lot of water, and didn’t drink during the game except for one small beer), but I should have stayed in one basic food group, and one liquor group. It was worth it though, I had a blast. Once I get home and take some Tums or something I’ll be fine.

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by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they look good.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I make bacon & chocolate chip cookies a few times a year.

They’re remarkably good, but a lollipop? Something about that is weirdo with a beardo.

by royalcurve on Sep 22, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine brought some chocolate-covered bacon into work a few weeks ago.

Some people liked it; I wasn’t too excited about it. The parts are more delicious than the sum.

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's exactly what it looks like.

The taste is just that — bacon and chocolate. There’s no real “magic” to it, as there is with chocolate and peanut butter or something like that.

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY SHAZBOT THE PAPERWORK IS SIGNED!!!

Now we have ~2 weeks to gut our house and move. Yikes. I’m a bit frightened now…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 22, 2008 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Congratulations!

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats Paul!

I do not envy the packing, but I know this is a huge relief.

by Sec 108 on Sep 22, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And congratulations as well.

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by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

We ended up battling for the house we were going to put an offer in on when our first sale fell through. It’s really been a battle, but I think the fighting is over, and the moving begins. Took one load to the storage unit tonight to get a bit of a head start while my wife’s away on business.

Moving over by Evergreen State College – about a mile or so away, if that. We’re even upgrading the hot tub (although this one isn’t an indoor hot tub like what’s in our current house)!

Man, though, there’s a LOT of work to be done yet. And a lot more details to arrange. Ugh…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Sep 22, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations, my friend!

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 22, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats, good luck with that pile of work.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 22, 2008 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That came out of nowhere.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay.

I was just curious why you might say such a thing.

I'm back to liking midgets too much.

by Thingray on Sep 22, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the worst.

The Nebraska Book Company owns your soul.

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I spent $550 this semester as well.

I usually go online to get the books for cheap, but this is my last year at school and saving $200 wasn’t a priority of mine. Finishing school is.

by Wilder. on Sep 22, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I’m in a Humanities class this semester and my readings consist of 9 $.99 textbooks

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

It’s a Dodge Colt so basically a Mitsubishi Mirage

It’s a 1990 and the odometer was rolled back several years ago so I don’t know how many miles are on it (it reads 176,000).
New clutch though and new CD player

Yesterday I drove it across the North Cascades and back twice which is a really demanding drive and it performed very well

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

er it reads 103,600

I suspect there are 176,000 on it

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Corcotopia and Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

also new tabs

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by Corco on Sep 22, 2008 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

David Price's line tonight:

5.2 innings, 3 K, 3 BB, 1 ER.

8 groundball outs, 4 fly ball outs, by my rough count.

Pretty solid debut, walks aside.

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

* 5.1 innings

and there are two runners on base after two singles.

by Teej on Sep 22, 2008 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

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