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Seattle Mariners at Oakland Athletics, Sep 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT


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Seattle Mariners @ Oakland Athletics

09/20/08 1:05 PM PDT

Seattle Mariners Oakland Athletics
Ichiro Suzuki - RF Travis Buck - RF
Yuniesky Betancourt - SS Aaron Cunningham - LF
Raul Ibanez - "LF" Ryan Sweeney - CF
Jose Lopez - 1B Jack Cust - DH
Jeremy Reed - CF Bobby Crosby - SS
Miguel Cairo - 3B Cliff Pennington - 2B
Bryan LaHair - DH Jack Hannahan - 3B
Kenji Johjima - C Jeff Baisley - 1B
Luis Valbuena - 2B Rob Bowen - C
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Silva 4-15 27 27 1 0 0 0 150.0 209 110 107 20 30 65 6.42 1.59

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Kirk Saarloos 1-0 7 0 0 0 0 0 23.0 30 12 11 1 3 12 4.30 1.43

The opportunity is there for great humiliation. Go big or go home, Carlos.

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I have tickets for Tuesday night's game

If the team can find a way to lose all of their games until then, then I might just be able to witness history. Go 100/100!

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

They don't need to try very hard.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 20, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Ohio State beat Troy :(

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Hah! Quick story:

When I lived in Japan, I had a friend whose family lived in Korea for a few years. He wanted a dog and his parents decided to get him one. So his mom went to a “pet store” and picked out a dog. The owner told her to come back in 2 days to pick up the dog, and when she did, the owner gave her a paper bag full of meat.

Talk about lost in translation. They never did attempt to adopt/buy a dog again while in Korea.

by Wilder. on Sep 20, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the MLB.com preview

"The middle game of the three-game series against the Athletes features the next-to-last start of the season for right-hander Carlos Silva, who won his first three starts of his first year with Seattle, and has just one win since. "

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Ohhh, makes sense

Isn’t that against everything we stand for as Cards fans though?

by Fuzz on Sep 20, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought it was a friendly rivalry

I hate losing against them, but if our season is over, and the team isn’t douchey… why not?

N one has ever seena Cubs championship. It’s not like they’re RSN

by JI on Sep 20, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, I don't know

I lived in Illinois for a while and it’s either you like the Cards or Cubs and then proceed to hate each other

by Fuzz on Sep 20, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

See? See?

Fuck all of you who jumped down my throats for hating the cubs.

by BrianL on Sep 20, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me neither.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Attention Ottawa fans:

At least at first, we are going to see a line of Mike Fisher, Chris Neil, and Jarkko Ruutu.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 20, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Ohh.. For some some reason I thought you were talking about first line.

Like, the cash line all decided to defect to figure skating or something.

by Matthew on Sep 20, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buh?

I need to catch up on the offseason, and since the game isn’t on TV, this seems like a good enough time. What did I miss?

by Matthew on Sep 20, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trying to spread the wealth

Team got too topheavy. Playing all three on one line kind of killed them against Anaheim in the Cup.

by Jeff Sullivan on Sep 20, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It affects all markets

that’s why only three games are scheduled between 1-4 and they’re all FOX games

by JI on Sep 20, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I recall correctly

This was originally scheduled to be a FOX broadcast nationwide but they dropped the coverage for obvious reasons

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boise State!

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Wofford.

If this were golf, the Mariners would be winning.

by kevin_ess on Sep 20, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOUCHDOWN BOISE STATE

SIT DOWN DUCKS

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

4 years ago that was out Jim.

God damn you’re at Wrigley too

by JI on Sep 20, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

MLB.com felt like penning an article stating that Johjima was our #1 catcher for the remainder of the year.

I’m relieved to find out that he’s beaten out Rob Johnson for that title over the final 10 games.

by Matthew on Sep 20, 2008 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

So dramatic.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUMBLE!

We are making Oregon look like New Mexico State

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure it did

The big ten call itself 11 prestigious universities all the time

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

All conferences do this

Albeit there’s only maybe 5 good academic schools in the Pac 10.

Plenty of good athletic institutions.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Sep 20, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

OAKLAND!

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

This is the part I'm afraid of

I remember when he was just a young whippersnapper in Everett and they’d make him play in Tacoma as a fill in guy

I had no idea he’d ever actually be in the majors

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you Yuni

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Strike out next time asshole

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I mean, just a bad product overall.

On the radio broadcast the commercial breaks are just a high pitched screeching noise.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 20, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not for me.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe everything filtered through Prudhoe Bay sucks ass

. . . sorry, I’m just kinda homesick today.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Sep 20, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

mlb.tv is the single greatest website known to mankind.

If it wasn’t for mlb.tv, I wouldn’t be able to watch Seattle. Ever.

Oh wait yeah, it does suck after all.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why the Fuck are we winning, don't we care about Starsburg?

I used to hate the cult. Then I accepted it. And now, at the time where everyone has abandoned the concept, I have now embraced it.

I hope we lose every fucking game for the rest of the year. In crushing fashion.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to decive us there.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

RAYYYYYYS!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 20, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Well done Carlos.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

RAYS!!!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 20, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Rick Griffin is seriously being overused this year.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 20, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Good job Mariners.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

A's hit single with bases loaded, 2 runs score

Silva possibly hurt? I’m listening on the radio so I just heard the trainer was heading out to the mound.

by OlSalty on Sep 20, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 run single? And Silva may be hurt.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 20, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Carlos Silva still sucks

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Someone needs to dig up some Baker quotes about Bedard

from the first half of the season.

But to "feel something’’ in April that gets progressively worse? That’s pitching hurt. That’s crossing the line. Pitchers are lectured about this by the team’s training staff at the start of every season. Not all of the pitchers listen. Bedard did not listen.

Geoff Baker is a douche.

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck

He was sucking Silva/Batista’s balls for pitching hurt and sucking, but Bedard pitches hurt and does reasonably well and he gets called out?

Wtf, Geoff.

by OlSalty on Sep 20, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baker quotes?

Probably will take some doing but you’re sure to find some gems along the season:

Such as this one on June 28:

Yes, this season is lost. And yes, the Mariners spent $48 million over four years to bring in Carlos Silva. But the guy does give you seven innings when he’s clicking. And tonight he was. Silva notches his first victory since April 17 in Oakland, a 4-2 win over the San Diego Padres.

……

Silva talked about what he did differently tonight. The biggest change was in his command. Remember this morning, when I mentioned the command issue in regards to Jarrod Washburn? When I said that command has less to do with walk ratios and throwing strikes and more about location? Well, listen to Silva.

"You’ve got to throw strikes, but you’ve got to make your pitches,‘’ he said. "Always, I throw strikes, but I don’t make my pitches that way (like he did tonight). It’s two different things.

"It’s hard. It’s not easy. It’s hard because on this level, when the other team knows you’re going to be around the plate, if you don’t make your piutches and you don’t hit your spots, you’re going to get hit hard. And that’s what’s been happening to me. So, I have to hit my corners. When I don’t hit them, I’m going to be in trouble because they know I’m going to throw strikes.’’

And that, folks, is why walk rates and strike ratios are not always the best way to measure the command of certain types of pitchers. Not pitch-to-contact guys whose goal is to get the ball put into play, only not as hard as the hitters would like.

by ThundaPC on Sep 20, 2008 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I think that's going to be a bit tricker.

I don’t recall Baker ever parading anyone for pitching through pain.

by ThundaPC on Sep 20, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ironic post from last year:
No, I don’t think this was a Jeff Weaver type of “injury” where routine, daily shoulder pain is exaggerated to spare a roster spot. Yes, I do think MLB should take a tougher stance on these things. But as I mentioned, pitchers feel pain of some sort all the time. Who are we to say what is serious and what isn’t? Just a question to ponder.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 20, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the June 08 Archive

The Entire Month

Can’t find any real juicy bits other than Batista ranting that he’s pitching hurt which was actually quoted by Larry Stone….and then later, Batista denies saying it, apparently.

It think it was more of Baker grilling Bedard for pitching through injury while glossing over other people doing the same thing.

by ThundaPC on Sep 20, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Backhanded compliments

Baker, from June 29th:

Erik Bedard wasn’t ace-like. But he gave his team a chance to win, 94 pitches or not.

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

From the fourth of July
"Erik did a great job,‘’ Riggleman said. "That’s a heckuva ballclub over there and they make you throw a lot of pitches. He was throwing so many pitches that were very close and — rightfully so — they were balls. But most teams would have taken a cut at some of those pitches, which would have kept his pitch count down. They just forced him into a very laboring five innings and they did a good job.’’

I agree with him on most of that. The issue isn’t the work he did on the scoreboard. He allowed just the one run. It’s the longevity. This team didn’t trade away five guys for a pitcher who needs his bullpen to hold off the Tigers for four innings.

…

Thing is, this is now what the team has. A five or six inning pitcher who can hold teams to a run or two. In case you hadn’t noticed, that’s what Jarrod Washburn has done lately.

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Gah.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Whatever.

Time to watch the Rays.

by BrianL on Sep 20, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

This perfectly captures how I feel about this season.

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"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 20, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Tietietietie.

Was that 2 pitches?

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 20, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

"Corcoran has been cold-cocked on two pitches!" Dave N.

"Sorry I hit you in the helmet Hank, I meant to hit you in the neck." Stan Williams to Hank Aaron.

by dpseadv on Sep 20, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

RAYYYYYS!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Sep 20, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I must have missed something.

Why is everyone rooting for extra innings? Rooting for the loss, I can understand, but why prolong the pain?

by appleshampoo on Sep 20, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Wooooooo Rays!

Please hang on, I feel like making my friend buy me that Longo jersey today.

by BrianL on Sep 20, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Sweet we aren't winning anymore

Thank God

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by Corco on Sep 20, 2008 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCKING LOSE YOU LOSERS.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

BRING THE LOSE

BRING THE 27K VIRGIN TOSSER.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

IT GETS BETTER!!!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEAAAAHHHHHH STARSBURG FUCK ME ROTTEN.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

CLIFF FLOYD IS WELCOME IN MY BED.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Who wins in fight

The 2008 mariners or Jeff’s 86 team?

by Robert on Sep 20, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I wish we could listen to the Rays broadcasters rather than these emotionless FOXminions.

It would be cool to hear what they were saying on the brink of history.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

No TV, no feed

I’m experiencing this game vicariously. And I really wish I had seen the penultimate play.

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

10 in a row. Superb.

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

0-10 on the standings - the hilarity is complete.

I paid £2500 to watch the worst team in baseball this year! :D

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm bored by his insecurities.

If I wanted that in my life I’d get a girlfriend.

by Matthew on Sep 20, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Silva came through huge tonight for us in the standings.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

ha!

I just joined Brett’s club. Geoff called me out.

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously?

The Red Sox and Yankees must have that kind of draw every game at the Trop and they have gone winless?

by Wilder. on Sep 20, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the one game the Red Sox didn't draw 30k+ and the Rays lost, they drew 29,772.

It’s just sad the Rays don’t draw 30k+ regularly. And I find it crazy that the stadium used to have a 45k+ capacity and now it is down to just over 36k. In the land of maximizing revenue, you don’t see stadium capacity decrease often. And people think Seattle has bad fans…

by Wilder. on Sep 20, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awww fuck the Cubs won the division.

I hate the Cubs.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Baker was reading this thread

From his blog:

Oh, and by the way, I wasn’t covering the series at Shea Stadium in June when Batista made his veiled comments about Bedard. That was Larry Stone’s first trip of the year. Hope that saves you and your buddies some time.

This hell of pleases me.

by katal on Sep 20, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Hi Geoff!

I'll shut up lest you ban me like you banned butthol.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 20, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hi Geoff!

Is it true that the only reason you’re a journalist is because you were too incompetent to study a real subject in university?

by Graham MacAree on Sep 20, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its time guys ... the Rays are about to clinch.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

You won 500 bucks

You can fly to tampa and stay there for a night for 279 through travelocity

by Robert on Sep 20, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its roundtrip

And playoff tickets dont have to be THAT expensive

by Robert on Sep 20, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

All a moot point.

Maybe if they’re still playing in late October I’ll be able to do something, I’ll be at a work conference in Orlando for a few days, but even then I’m not sure if I’ll be able to slip out.

by BrianL on Sep 20, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not so fast my friend.

The Rays put three players on the 40 man onto the 60 day DL. So they can put Price, Perez, and someone else (back-up C) on the post-season roster. Thank you Chad Orvella and Jae Kuk Ryu.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

They will.

Call it the K-Rod exemption. It was the plan all along. Price will come out of the pen, although he will likely start Tuesday in one of the doubleheader games.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tricky bastards.

Must be nice to have a team run by people who understand basic rules and how to exploit them.

by Teej on Sep 20, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked their DL manipulation the best.

That or Rocco “tweaking” his groin to get another 30 day rehab assignment.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 20, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never seen my team in the playoffs. :'(

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Sep 20, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Just watched the 9th inning on archive

Wow, that call was Mike Reilly’d.

Oh well.

by ThundaPC on Sep 20, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

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