Sean Green Is At It Again
Memories of last year's horrific collapse will not soon be forgotten, and right in the middle of everything was a bullpen that started to struggle at the worst possible time. Sean Green was no exception; between August 5th and September 18th, he allowed 17 runs and 43 baserunners in 18.2 innings, tarnishing a strong campaign and playing a significant part in 2007's emphatic demise.
The same phenomenon looks to be repeating itself once more in 2008. In the month of August, Green's put 22 people on base in 9.1 innings, striking out just four batters over the same span and yielding an OBP of .449. Where earlier in the year he was one of the lone stable assets on the staff, recently he's been nothing short of an unpleasant adventure.
Here's what's most interesting to me, though - where it seems pretty easy to pinpoint exhaustion as the root cause behind Green's struggles (he's tied for the AL lead in appearances with 63), if he's tired, it's not showing up in his actual stuff. Check it out:
| Speed | pfx_x | pfx_z | |
| Fastball, Season | 89.4 | -10.4 | -1.0 |
| Fastball, Slump | 89.7 | -10.2 | -0.3 |
| Slurve, Season | 76.0 | 5.8 | 0.3 |
| Slurve, Slump | 75.7 | 7.5 | -0.7 |
Green's stuff has been pretty much of the same quality over this recent stretch as it has been all season. In fact, his breaking ball's actually been moving more.
The issue isn't with his stuff. It hasn't changed. And he's still been getting a bunch of groundballs, so it'd also be hard to argue that his results have been substantially different. No, the problem is this simple: since returning from his little break, Green hasn't been able to throw strikes. At all. His strike rate of 53% over the last few weeks is almost hilariously bad, well below his season rate of 61% (which is still pretty weak). Yeah, he's faced an inordinate number of lefties over that span, but he hasn't even been regularly finding the zone against righties.
Not throwing strikes is a great way to look like a bad pitcher. Well, no; not throwing strikes is a great way to be a bad pitcher. Which isn't to say that Sean Green is bad, but during August, he's been exactly that. What's curious to me is that his stuff has stayed about the same, which leads me to wonder about two things:
(1) Is he actually tired*, or is this just statistical noise?
(2) How does cumulative pitcher fatigue usually manifest itself - worse command, worse stuff, worse velocity, or some combination of the three?
#1 is something we'll just have to wait to find out. #2, meanwhile, seems like it'd be a fascinating area of research, although I imagine you'd run into a heck of a problem trying to come up with a data pool. How do you identify a pitcher who's worn down over the course of the season? Looking only at guys who're getting worse results is the nasty sort of selection bias, since it doesn't account for people who're pitching through fatigue effectively. I guess it's another one of those interesting ideas that's virtually impossible to investigate.
As far as Green's concerned, we can only hope that he's able to shake these struggles off, since he's a valuable component of the bullpen going forward. Personally, I'm not worried; he shook off similar struggles a year ago, and rosters expand in five days. But it'd be nice to see him get a couple strong outings under his belt before the end of the season. Just to be sure.
* as the life of the party he may simply be hungover all the time
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Could the fatigue break have thrown him off?
by Gomez on Aug 27, 2008 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't very good immediately before it, either
I was just shooting for a convenient starting point. He only threw 10 strikes in 20 pitches on August 2nd.
by Jeff on Aug 28, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, now that you mention it
I was admittedly just throwing it out there as a possibility.
by Gomez on Aug 28, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 'z' break certainly looks different in relative terms
if not in absolute terms.
I’d be interested to see how well that correlates with his success; dropping the arm angle and getting more horiz. break certainly seemed to jump-start his MLB career…
I’m also really nervous about SSS measures of pitch FX break, given the discrepancies in measurement, esp. as one park might be overrepresented in this sample (Safeco).
by marc w on Aug 28, 2008 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One of the things I've always wished could be measured
is how often a pitcher misses his target. Here’s a pet peeve of mine: a catcher sets up low and away and the pitcher misses the target by throwing a low and inside strike (the opposite side of the plate)… then the batter hits a homerun and Mike Blowers says, “Tip your cap to David Ortiz…. he just hit a great pitch, right on the corner.”
IT WAS THE WRONG CORNER MIKE. MAYBE THROWING A 2-0 FASTBALL LOW AND IN TO A LEFTY SLUGGER IS A BAD IDEA.
Sure, you can miss by 18 inches and get lucky… but if you’re missing your target that badly, you lose your ability to set up hitters, paint corners, and get marginal calls because the umpire respects your control (ala Maddux.)
When a pitcher struggles with command, especially mid-season, I always wonder if tiny injuries are interfering… if something has slipped in their mechanics, or if they’re simply mentally/physically tired. God knows, I would have a hard time concentrating and trying my best in every appearance if I pitched for the Mariners.
by johnbai on Aug 28, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We need some ability to measure catcher glove position in the worst way
by Jeff on Aug 28, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so many things that it would be great to measure
but it would require a team of baseball-knowledgable statisticians watching every play of every game and making some subjective judgement calls about the actions of each participant. It could improve our defensive metrics as well.
But this stops being clean science as soon as subjective “judgment calls” enter into the picture… and inter-rater reliability goes out the window without a rigorous training program for the game evaluators.
by johnbai on Aug 28, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could put some kind of sensor in the catcher's gloves so it could show up relative to the Pitch f/x measurement.
To measure the movement of the catcher’s glove from it’s starting position. I don’t really even know if that’s possible but that’s the most objective way I could think of to do it.
by OlSalty on Aug 28, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching the game has gone the way of the poodle
and your primitive notions of modesty.
by great gonzalez on Aug 29, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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