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Seattle Mariners at Chicago White Sox, Aug 19, 2008 5:11 PM PDT


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Seattle Mariners @ Chicago White Sox

08/19/08 5:11 PM PDT

Seattle Mariners Chicago White Sox
Ichiro Suzuki - RF Orlando Cabrera - SS
Miguel Cairo - 1B AJ Pierzynski - C
Raul Ibanez - "LF" Carlos Quentin - LF
Adrian Beltre - 3B Jermaine Dye - RF
Jose Lopez - 2B Jim Thome - DH
Wladimir Balentien - CF Alexei Ramirez - 2B
Kenji Johjima - D "H" Ken Griffey -Hilarity
Jamie Burke - C Nick Swisher - 1B
Yuniesky Betancourt - ¬SS Juan Uribe - 3B
W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Felix Hernandez 7-7 23 23 1 0 0 0 151.0 137 58 51 10 58 140 3.04 1.29

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Clayton Richard 0-2 4 3 0 0 0 0 14.0 25 19 15 3 4 13 9.64 2.07

Chicago has the highest homerun factor on flyballs. Please throw fewer predictable fastballs Felix.

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Go Felix!

Show those White Sox what a mediocre team with one good pitcher can do!

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Please don't suck, Felix...

After just hearing that the people planning on buying our house are backing out of the deal, I really don’t need any more bad news…

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No kidding.

And only juuuust after my wife and I finally agreed on something — the next one to buy.

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beer, my man. You need beer.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear that, Paul

but I guess you’re not going to get your wish. GS52 just went on the DL with shoulder stiffness. Hopefully that’s all teh bad news. I hope the day gets better for you now, and tomorrow even better.

by kva15 on Aug 19, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, these things do come in threes...

…so I’ll count a less-than-stellar game from Felix as the third, then.

Fortunately the GS52 injury is only bursitis. They were fearing the worst…

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad it's not serious

George could probably use a rest. Not like it will make a difference to the Oriole’s playoff chances. Might just make sure they appreciate him.

I’ve been through the real estate hassles recently and I feel for you. We had similar issues as yours and we held out for better offers — and they came (quickly). Hang in there.

by kva15 on Aug 19, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a bad feeling about this game.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phildopip on Aug 19, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Take the cardboard out of that new pair of underwear.

That might help.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're on a roll right now.

I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie-Yahoo Answers

by Phildopip on Aug 19, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bored at work.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin's always on a roll

I never see him on a croissant, though…

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm German, not French.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GET OUT OF MY BRÖCHEN!!!

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

[BRÖTCHEN]

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by PositivePaul on Aug 19, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Via Rotoworld:
Pitching coach Dave Duncan said Sunday that Chris Carpenter (shoulder) could rejoin the rotation as soon as August 26.
It sounds like Carpenter’s status will determine what the Cardinals do with Adam Wainwright, who could come back as a reliever if he’s not needed as much in the rotation. Carpenter is scheduled to throw off flat ground Tuesday.

GOD

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 4:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong

He actually still has major league stuff.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I'm not annoyed with Carpenter

I’m annoyed at the notion that we need a “proven closer” more than we need to replace Joel.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be annoyed with that as well

LaRussa needs to get some sense. Any number of relievers can get 3 outs in the 9th with a 1-3 run lead.

by Gomez on Aug 19, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRussa is a good manager

but this is by far his biggest weakness.

Perez/McClelan/SPringer can hold down the fort fine. If you need to use a veteran use Springer.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second time Clement has been benched following a good game.

Can we let this guy stay in the lineup when he’s swinging the bat well?

Jamie Burke is a cool guy and all, but why is he ever in the lineup given the status of this team, and his age?

by DarkLou on Aug 19, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Know it all.

;)

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux officially a Dodger

for two PTBNL or cash. Considering the Dodgers are supposedly cash strapped I wonder who the two PTBNL are.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 4:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If I say no, will you believe me?

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

http://www.volunteermatch.org/search/org27305.jsp

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you should self impose the butthol rule.

Count to 10 and make sure your joke makes sense.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry for the late response.

I was counting.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My question is, why?

Maddux-5.20 tRA

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Joe Torre

hates Eric Stults and McDonald for not being proven veterans.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point theres no reason to cut him

and he hasn’t stunk up the place

so….

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it make much difference at this point?

I assume he won’t be around next season.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Extra bullpen guy

cause our starters suck so much. Thats also why he is catching Felix, lower risk that we might need him today.

by Schuxu on Aug 19, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inother words

1. Pitch Good

2. Hit Good

3. HIT IT TO CENTER

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 has nothing to do with defense

and everything to do with Jr’s. bat.

They way the sugarcoat his decline… I still think they wanna go out and get him this offseason.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Lying

HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)

by tootthekazoo on Aug 19, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FTFY

Holy shit the Pirates are bad without Bay and Nady

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This reminds me

is Darrin Erstad still playing?

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by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 5:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

first base is the easiest position to find an offensively competent player and we’re starting Miguel Cairo?

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Q homers off of Felix today, I'm shutting it off.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God Damn it

LESS FASTBALLS, MORE BENDY THINGYS

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh ok

I’ll take it

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 5:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That might be worse.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm lost

what am I supposed to write, when I want to approve a funny post?

by Schuxu on Aug 19, 2008 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think of it this way.

When you are talking with another person outside of the internet, do you actually say lol?

Type like how you really talk.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Dave. No he can't.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Search you heart

you know it to be true

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why are you here? Why are you a fan?

I’m asking seriously. If you actually think there’s a 50% chance the Ms are stupid enough to do a Raul/Griff/Ichiro OF in 2009, how can you possibly root for this team? I don’t get it.

by Matthew on Aug 19, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not even the White Sox would do that

Their Griffey experiment is reluctant because options A-X flamed out.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Becouse

Laughing at an unbelievably bad team is just as fun as cheering for a good one.

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on

you can’t tell me you didn’t laugh atleast once at Jose Vidro.

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stopped laughing a long time ago.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Mariners remind me of the jack ass stunt "cup check"

Morbid curiosity of how its going to get worse.

by Robert on Aug 19, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True but

until this team gets a good GM who tuns everything into sunshine and rainbows (which is possible) might as well enjoy what you got.

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

call me crazy

but With the right (wrong) GM I can actually see that happening

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it could happen. So?

If you expect this team to hire a GM stupid enough to do that than you expect this team to remain horrendously stupid for another half-decade or so at least.

by Matthew on Aug 19, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can understand not going elsewhere (to another team)

but I cannot understand putting effort into a fanhood for a team that you’re reduced to hoping gets lucky despite their incompetence. I would just stop caring.

by Matthew on Aug 19, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask Izturis. And the M's really tried hard to take out Span.

Dangerous like being attacked by the Keystone Kops.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

M's = shitty team. Played Rays, Izzy out with broken wrist.

Impacts team? Guess it made sense when I typed it.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You check the OT thread for a reaction from a local beat writer

as long as you keep your reaction over there.

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last time I reacted to Geoff bad things happened.

I choose to be mildly indifferent towards Geoff now.

by BrianL on Aug 19, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just give him the HH treatment.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup. and we get to watch him all next year!

anyone want to guess how many times Washburn gets shelled? I say 8 times.

by mark sobba on Aug 19, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's so much talk of the bad team/players out of position/etc on badness.

How about M’s player development? I’m just not liking where Felix is at, I was hoping his upward trend would be more… like an ascension.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 5:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course. It had to be Q. It had to be.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ad blocked.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is a ridiculous photograph.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld quip of the day:
Aaron Harang’s Thursday start has been pushed back due to neck spasms.
He woke up with neck stiffness Tuesday morning. “He couldn’t turn his head,” Reds pitching coach Dick Pole said. We’d make a juvenile joke here, but we’d be fired. Instead of facing the Cubs, Harang will now face the Rockies on Friday. Josh Fogg will be moved up to face the Cubs on Thursday.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 6:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This makes me laugh.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

made

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Junior has zero XBH with the White Sox.

We all know what happens next.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 6:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, it is still Felix pitching

Not all sucking rules apply to him…

by Schuxu on Aug 19, 2008 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like seeing Felix IBB

It chips away at my conception that he can get everyone out at will

by pakipaki on Aug 19, 2008 6:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep the ball down.

Please? For me?

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 6:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are we sure that that is Felix out there...

and not a clean shaven Silva in a corset?

by pakipaki on Aug 19, 2008 6:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva has twice the size

seriously though, Felix seems very thin to me.
But it is hard to tell with mlb.tv and its somtimes screwed up ratios.

by Schuxu on Aug 19, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a horrible image.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silva spilling out the top of the corset.

His neon rosary nestled deep in the sweaty cleavage.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And fuck you for that.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You brought it up.

I was trying not to think of it. Between diving and listening too games on the radio, my imagination is way to active.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, but I've had music piped over the speakers before.

Just a lot of time for thinking on decompression. Satellite radio when I’m not working. There can be a lot of down time on a boat.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, commercial diving, not scuba.

Helmet, umbilical. Surface supported diving.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this game is a let down

but could we please not discuss Carlos Silva’s fat rolls?

Is that too much to ask?

9 = 8

by JI on Aug 19, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What team has Rizzs been watching?

“Weird inning for the M’s in the 1st, runners on all over the place, couldn’t score.”

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What a terrible game

Our lineup sucking it up vs. a bad pitcher and Felix gets hit pretty hard

by Schuxu on Aug 19, 2008 6:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I keep waiting to hear Rick Griffith is injured due to overuse.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See ya, Schumacher.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I stay here but Im out wathcing the game

HEY the Rays tied it in the 8th and have the bases loaded with one out!!

by Schuxu on Aug 19, 2008 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm happy I can't see it.

The wife is watching goddamned synchronized swimming.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can handle that.

Although I stand firm in the belief that men should not wear visors.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 19, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They remind me of the M's in '01.

You just always expected the win.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nonsense!

Now is where it starts getting good. And by good I don’t mean good. I’m really hoping for an epic meltdown these last 6 weeks. 100+ losses. Maybe, just maybe if the stink is awful enough the thus far silent M’s ownership group will make the changes that need to be made. HowChuck must go.

"When I'm a evaluating a player the first three things I look at are: Character, character, and character."
-Charles Armstrong esq.

by Big Jared on Aug 19, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know just a moment ago I said that

it is as fun to watch a bad team lose and laugh as it is to cheer for a winner.

I still find it true, laughing at Turbo or Silva or Sexson or Batista suck is good fun….

but this is felix and now All of a sudden, I’m not laughing anymore. Now I’m just kinda depressed.

by IceStormV1 on Aug 19, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to find a player to really look forward to.

Ichiro you can bank on. You never know when Clement is going to play though. I pay attention when Raul is at the plate but cringe when the ball is hit to LF.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus.

"Ask them hitters about the curve. They'll tell you. It's Public Enemy Number 1." -Charlie Dressen.

by dpseadv on Aug 19, 2008 6:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey I really hate this team.

Fuck this team.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 19, 2008 6:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Almost time for the Dodgers!

I wonder if Ethier will hit another dramatic walk off home run.

True story, I turned the radio on right as he hit the walk off this weekend. That was pretty awesome.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 6:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They can quit those come from behind wins anytime now.

"All I’ve ever done is be Juan Pierre when I wear this jersey. They’re sticking it to me this year for whatever reason. "

.280/.324/.316

~Juan Pierre

by Goose on Aug 19, 2008 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny has inspired them

with the spirit of never say die.

Or something. If the defense wasn’t so bad they wouldn’t have needed a few of these come from behind wins.

Whatever every big Ethier hit is another day without Juan Pierre.

If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.

by bluemax on Aug 19, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions