46-74
It is a testament to the level of indifference forced upon me by this team that I watched on with calm eyes as Wlad's fly ball neared the fence. And as Hunter tracked it all the way back until he ran out of room, that image from April flashed through my head like Gwyneth Paltrow's face at the climax of Se7en, and at once I knew not only that Hunter would make a leaping catch, but that I would also get over it and move on with my life as if nothing had ever happened. This is the state of our existence. We've been so thoroughly beaten down by a steady, relentless stream of disappointment that when opportunities present themselves, we instinctively both anticipate dejection and make peace with it ahead of time so that, should a given negative event take place as expected, it packs less of a punch. Cushioning blows before you're even sure whether or not they'll ever happen may be the pinnacle of defeatist surrender-monkeying, but when you're dealt the hand that we've been dealt, it's the only way to cope. At least, it's the only way that won't kill you.
So I watched Hunter retreat, I watched Hunter leap, and I watched Hunter make a futile swipe at the air before falling back down to the field of play with an empty glove. And only when the camera cut to a shot of Wlad casually rounding the bases did it dawn on me what I'd just seen, and what it meant. All the preparation had been for naught. All the blow-cushioning went right out the window. For there was no blow to be endured. For one of what's felt like only a handful of times all season long, Lady Devastation was giving the Mariners a break.
It's an unbelievable rush when you feel you've been spared certain doom. Even if the prospect of doom in and of itself no longer fazes you, the sudden, unlikely deviation from the expected course of events is enough to send fresh new lifeblood sprinting through your veins and, if only temporarily, rejuvenating your spirit. As Wlad's fly ball cleared the fence and Roy Corcoran in turn set the Angels down 1-2-3 to seal a meaningless victory, I found myself in a good mood. A genuinely warm, contented, good mood. The sort of seldom-experienced good mood during which there is nothing else but your mood, nothing else but your complete and undivided happiness. For the five or ten minutes immediately following the end of the game, I loved the Mariners like I've rarely been able to love them since I really started paying attention. I loved the Mariners and I loved every single player who'd had a hand in delivering a win that, psychologically, I so badly needed.
The burden of a season like this on a blogger is such that I have trouble conveying just how much of a struggle it really is. Once the emotional investment is gone a month or two into the year, the writing becomes increasingly difficult, and you end up bearing arms in a hard-fought daily battle against your own mind to see if you can hang on until the end of September. It's a battle of resolve, a battle of persistence, a battle of self-doubt and self-affirmation. A thousand times a week you tell yourself you can't do this anymore, and a thousand times a week you convince yourself otherwise, saying it'll all be worth it in the end if you can just stick it out.
A game like today helps make it worth it. Because a game like today serves as an indelible reminder of what the good times can feel like, and how enjoyable things can be when they're not all doom and gloom. When I've been in some ruts in the past I've had concerns over whether or not I even have it in me to write about a team that actually wins for a change, because the demand would be so high, and a season like this in which nobody cares is already sufficiently taxing. But as it turns out, this winning thing can be kind of fun. Even when you have to write about it afterwards. So I guess it's just up to the Mariners to give me that chance.
The 45-74 Mariners played twelve innings against the obscenely division-leading Angels today, and I rather enjoyed it. I think that speaks volumes as to what kind of game it really was. This has been a hell of a night.
Biggest Contribution: Raul Ibanez, +68.8%
Biggest Suckfest: Ichiro, -45.2%
Most Important AB: Balentien homer, +46.3%
Most Important Pitch: Teixera homer #2, -43.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -38.6%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +49.0%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +39.6%
(What is this chart?)
A few things:
- All Raul Ibanez has done since the All Star Break is bat .363 with 18 extra-base hits and 27 RBI in 25 games. For the Mariners' sake, the front office should probably keep telling him for as long as it can that it's trying to work out a way to trade him to another team, because right now he's playing like a guy who wants to get the hell out of here. Obviously this is completely unsustainable, but simply in terms of visual observation, these past two weeks he's looked like one of the hottest hitters I've ever seen.
- When I was a kid, sometimes I used to pretend that I was an athlete (generally MLB or NHL) being thrust into the most critical situation of the most critical game of the season. And, this being my own personal game of make-believe, I'd always come through for my team and celebrate excessively by flailing all over the place and pumping my arms. So maybe it's out of some sort of self-loathing that I hate Francisco Rodriguez for doing the exact same kind of thing every time he locks down a save. That unreasonably over-the-top little dance of death he does on the mound makes my hate transcend the boundaries of being a spectator and leads to my being able to say honestly and truthfully that I hate Francisco Rodriguez the person. It is with utter contempt that I watch him get credit for a save like the one he picked up yesterday on his way towards shattering Thigpen's record. But then on the flip side, it is with utter delight that I watch him fail as spectacularly as he did tonight. Having inherited a 6-4 lead, Rodriguez faced five batters and allowed a walk, two singles, a double, and a line drive before getting yanked from a 7-6 game to a chorus of heartwarming boos. And on his way out he decided to yell at (and subsequently get ejected by) Gerry Davis for calling a zone that PITCHf/x shows to have been decidedly just. I know the Angels don't whine any more than any other team in the league, but it furthers my personal narrative to pretend that they do, so Rodriguez's tantrum greatly increased my level of glee. That was an awesome half inning.
- The bottom half was not. JJ got absolutely throttled. You talk about your major steps back. All four hitters were clearly sitting fastball, and it was a minor miracle that we so much as got to the tenth.
- I am in love with the surname "Arredondo". It's fun to say. Arredondo. On this basis alone I am selecting him as one of the few Angels for whom I can actually root. (The group now consists of Jose Arredondo, Howie Kendrick, Juan Rivera, and Tim Salmon if he ever decides to make a comeback for some reason.)
- This obviously wasn't the best start Felix has ever had, but that had a lot more to do with the Angels than with Felix doing something poorly. While that first-inning single by Vlad on the pitch at the toes stands out as the most conspicuous demonstration of freakish ability on their lineup's part to hit balls out of the zone, Teixeira's home run came on a pitch off the plate outside. It was a lot more good hitting than bad pitching tonight. At least Felix still got his eight strikeouts.
- When you stay up to watch a meteor shower during the workweek, the recovery process can take quite a bit longer than you anticipated.
- I'm beginning to suspect that Jeff Clement sucks at catching.
- Jeremy Reed in Angel Stadium: .367/.425/.582
Jeremy Reed everywhere else: .249/.304/.351
The hot hitting to impress his family and friends continues. - A lot has been made over how the Angels are currently nine wins over their Pythagorean record, by far the biggest difference in the league. It's even been suggested that there's something systemic about the Angels as an organization that allows them to beat their Pythagorean record, as over the past five years they've beaten their run differential record by 21 games. To me, this is nothing more than the finely-tuned human brain trying to identify a pattern where there most likely isn't one. For one thing, what could the Angels possibly be doing that other teams haven't noticed? Out of all the research that's been done on this phenomenon, precious little has been learned. No one in the public domain has discovered a sustainable way for a team to comfortably beat its Pythagorean W/L, and even if the Angels were working on this behind the scenes with great success (and I don't think that's up their alley), you'd imagine someone else would've found out the same thing. I guess you could try to point to the manager as being responsible, but then why did the Angels underachieve by seven games under Scioscia between 2001-2003? What would he be doing differently now that he wasn't doing six years ago?
For another thing, why are people treating this like it's so exceptional? This year, the Angels are +9 games. That's a lot. But then last year's Diamondbacks were +11. Last year's Mariners were +9. There's nothing special about either of those two organizations. And while the Angels were +4 in 2007 and +5 in 2006, those are both well within the margin of error. There's just...I mean, let's look at it this way. The Angels have beaten their Pythagorean W/L five years in a row. If, for the sake of simplicity, you assume a 50% chance of doing that in any given season, you'd put the odds of doing what the Angels have done at 1/2^5, or 1/32. 1/32 is nothing. For the sake of comparison, Jose Lopez's established odds of hitting a home run in any given plate appearance in 2008 are 1/51, and if he were to go deep in his first at bat tomorrow no one would be treating it like some kind of miracle. It would just be a home run. Statistically, the odds of doing what the Angels have done are not the least bit improbable.
Patterns. The human mind tries to find them everywhere, and while this approach has its advantages, it also runs into trouble when it starts to identify things that aren't really there. I'm not saying it's 100% impossible that the Angels are beating their Pythagorean record due to reasons other than luck, but it's just far more likely this this is an unsustainable fluke, a matter of happenstance that in the grander scheme of things is absolutely meaningless. It's the same sort of thing with the Mariner farm system. If you look at the position players we've graduated over the past few years, a lot of the higher-profile guys have come up and really struggled at first. Clement. Balentien. Lopez. Betancourt. Jones. Choo. If you just take that for what it is, it's tempting to suggest that there must be something wrong with the organization. But again, given what we know about each player, it's far more likely that this doesn't really mean anything. Chances are there's nothing about the Mariners that makes them incapable of graduating a succesful hitting prospect. That's kind of how things have gone lately, but the take-home message from all this is that just because something happened doesn't mean there's an interesting reason behind it happening. Luck and small sample sizes have almost universal application. Remember this. You'll be better off because of it.
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I can't stand Francisco Rodriguez.
I was cackling like a madman driving home and hearing that on the radio
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 1:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, watching the Olympic Baseball game on USA HD
Strasburg is pitching, and WOW he looks sick. Struck out the side to start the game, and nobody had a chance. True, it’s against the Netherlands, but still… He was buckling everybody’s knees, and the first 2 K’s were on called strikes that looked untouchable. Plus, he has pointy ears
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 1:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Comcast 672 in Seattle
HD channel
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok I found it.
I am excited to see our future #1 pick pitch.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
USA!
I watched the 1st inning, too.
He was SICK. Eugene Kingsdale (remember him) looked at a pitch (called strike 3) like it was a ghost.
by Slica on Aug 14, 2008 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally froze him
He just stood there licking his lips and then walked away. This cat pitching for Netherlands doesn’t look too bad either, to be honest
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This looks it might be a pitcher's duel.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think we could turn this into a US-NED game thread
Is that allowed?
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just do it anyway
Worst case we end up making a thread anyway. Everybody is sleeping probably anyhow. I should be, but insomnia has kicked me in the balls this past month, so I’m up
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I'd say I have it tonight.
One pitch out, this guy could be our Felix 2.0.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CURVEBALL
It’s beautiful, just like the first time I watched Bedard throw one.
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He calls that a slider.
I don’t believe him
by Graham on Aug 14, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That just makes the legend of Strasburg more legendary.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he keeps this up I'll believe anything he tells me
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright...
Strasburg just blew one by duderow.
Agreed on the Nederlands (thought it was Netherlands?) pitcher. He has been good, too.
It seems like every swing that makes contact is beyond late and causes violent ‘straight back’ fouls.
by Slica on Aug 14, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I get to witness a 22k game I might make my pants wet.
Even if it is on the other side of the world.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 of 6 K's
Wowza. The best contact made was a hard dribbler to 2nd
HA HA HA, your Grandpa's an ASS!- Tourette's Guy (R.I.P)
by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your first paragraph was so much like my current life I was amazed
I am printing some of this out and putting it on my desk.
by mark sobba on Aug 14, 2008 1:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The pythagorean conundrum
In 10 of Joe Torre’s 12 seasons as Yankees manager, the team bested its Pythagorean differential. This keeps me up at night, actually. How is this possible?
Where is Mick Kelleher when we need him?
by 3744nsheffield on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the Angels.
You know, I follow several professional teams who all have arch rivals. Of all of those teams and all of those rivals the Angels are the only team I hate. When I say hate, I really mean it. I hate them not only as players, but as individual people as well. I even hate the city they play for. Sure Disneyland can be a lot of fun, but the city of Anaheim is like a monument to consumerism and lowest common denominator pandering. It represents all of the things we should find abhorrent with western culture.
Every time Anaheim loses a game, it is a victory for western civilization.
by thewyrm on Aug 14, 2008 6:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anaheim actually isn't all that special..
I think a lot of the snoody/stuck up/richie people come from cities like Irvine, Costa Mesa, Mission Viejo, other south Orange County cities around Anaheim. (Not to say there aren’t any people like that in Anaheim.)
by seamariners85 on Aug 14, 2008 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Anaheim isn't even close to one of the nicer areas of Orange County
The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 147 H, 16 BB, 42 G Left
by seattlebruin on Aug 14, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After being at the infamous Hunter-game-ending-catch game..
I thought we were fucked on Balentien’s shot. But damn there’s nothing like seeing K-Rod blow a save. Just when Im thinking it can’t get any better he starts mouthing off to the ump?! What a moron, he’s the last guy that should be getting calls. (And how about Corcoran!)
Something I noticed that seems to be increasing is the lack of M’s fans down here in So Cal. Maybe they are just in hiding, but each night we saw maybe only a handful of Mariner fans total. I remember going back in 02 and the M’s fans being more loud than Angels fans.
by seamariners85 on Aug 14, 2008 7:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My section had quite a few M's fans in it
where were you?
The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 147 H, 16 BB, 42 G Left
by seattlebruin on Aug 14, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First game 409. Second in 512.
In last night’s game there was an older lady with an Angels fan that was decked out in M’s attire, hat, earrings, shirt, button, etc., but I was the only person in my section to stand and applaud during the Ibanez HR, and Balentien HR (Granted 70% of the fans had left already in our section).
And don’t the rain/long drive back to Seattle (Live 20 min from Anaheim)/Starbucks jokes ever get old.. I guess you could say the same for the Rally Monkey too.
by seamariners85 on Aug 14, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were never fresh
except when the girl telling them was cute in which case I would always humor her
The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 147 H, 16 BB, 42 G Left
by seattlebruin on Aug 14, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How close did Hunter come to that home run?
The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 147 H, 16 BB, 42 G Left
by seattlebruin on Aug 14, 2008 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to gauge home runs/fly balls without sound.
I saw Wlad’s HR and I thought it was a relatively deep fly ball, but then Hunter kept going back, and the ball just kept on carrying, and I just kept on shouting at the TV.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 14, 2008 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Home runs do that a lot when I'm at Safeco
The flyballs just seem like routine flies, but then they carry… and carry… and go over the fence.
by Gomez on Aug 14, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just had this crazy feeling
that Rodriguez would blow the save last night. I felt like the baseball gods would seek retribution for his cheap save the night before.
When Jeremy Reed came up I turned to my GF and said, “This is it. Reed loves hitting in Angels stadium he’s gonna destroy this pitch.” It was nice to actually be right when predicting something against the Angels for once.
Of course it all came back to me the next inning when JJ blew the save.
I admit I got excited when Wlad hit that last one out. I couldn’t believe it for a moment, and had to wait to see him trotting to know it was safe to cheer.
If it wasn't for college football I'd probably have given up on sports.
by bluemax on Aug 14, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a little about pythag
I looked at RP WPA vs Pythag record along with SP WPA vs Pythag and Batting WPA vs Pythag for just the AL teams this year using THT.
RP WPA vs Pythag r2=0.40
SP WPA vs Pythag r2= 0.004
Hitting WPA vs Pythag r2=0.127
Total WPA vs Pythag r=0.45
by Edgar for Pres on Aug 14, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheating a little bit with the math
Chances of beating your pythag are roughly 50% each year… and you’re right to say that the odds of beating it 5 years in a row are 1 in 32. But it’s harder to beat your pythag by 4-5 games than to beat it by 1-2 games. You’re omitting some of the data in order to simplify your point. The odds of the Angels outperforming their pythag by 21 games over the last 5 years is quite a bit less than 1 in 32 (though an exact figure would be difficult to come up with.)
by johnbai on Aug 14, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your last line is why I did it this way
I know it’s totally cheating, but otherwise it was going to get far too complicated.
by Jeff on Aug 14, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I agree with Jeff's assertion that beating one's pythag record isn't something into which we should read anything,
reading about it just makes me angry because I think about how people like the folks at HH wouldn’t understand the math at all, and thus would hold an entirely baseless position.
Gods I hate the Angels. For the same reason I hate Wal-Mart. It’s not the team or the store that bothers me; it’s their customers.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on Aug 14, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel that way about the Red Sox
The team is fine, I don’t have a problem, its their damn obnoxious fans which seem to multiply like rabbits.
JI/Robert '08!
by Fin on Aug 14, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so many good reasons to hate Wal-Mart
hating them because of their customers never occured to me before!
by johnbai on Aug 14, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an idea to throw out there: How do good bullpens correlate with teams that outperform Pythag?
I know this came up last year, given the M’s had a pretty good pen that helped them win a lot of close games early.
by Gomez on Aug 14, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A good bullpen helps, but only very little
by Jeff on Aug 14, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember this debate from last year
and I remember thinking when JJ went down early this year that we were boned. There was no way we were going to get lucky and outperform the Python without JJ being an absolute stud. But did anyone actually find conclusive statistics to back this up?
by johnbai on Aug 14, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outperform the Python?
That sounds like a great 80’s action movie! OUTPERFORM THE PYTHON!
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Aug 14, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sort of question would require quite a bit of research to find some sort of correlative connection
I don’t think any factors are a direct cause of outperforming Pythag, but teams which do so probably have some subtle common elements (aside, obviously, from being better than average at scoring and/or preventing runs).
by Gomez on Aug 14, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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