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Around SBN: Win or Lose, Boston Celtics' New Big 3 Era A Success

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In a rush, no time to write. The long and short of it:

  • Dickey wasn't all that great, but - much like RRS a night ago - he was far better than his final line. 10 GB, 6 FB, 2 LD, 2 IFF. Missed a decent number of bats, too. The big problem was that too often he lost sight of his spots, but shit happens when you're a knuckleballer. I am displeased but not discouraged.

  • As a general rule of thumb, I am against message benchings. Especially when the player getting message benched is the only player up to that point to provide any offense. If Riggleman had a problem with Lopez's effort last night, why was he in the starting lineup today? If Riggleman had a problem with Lopez's effort today, why was he pulled instead of Jeff Clement, who was a nightmare both at and behind the plate? I've said it before and I'll say it again: once you're slapped with the "lazy" tag, it's almost impossible to remove. Lopez didn't deserve to get sat down, but he should probably get used to things like this, because his little slip-ups are forever going to be viewed with a magnifying glass.

  • Speaking of which - which is it, Riggleman? Is this team just fine when it comes to the little things, or do they make enough little mistakes to warrant the occasional message benching? You said you wanted this team to hit better and pitch better. Jose Lopez hit a home run and got benched before his next at bat. I would appreciate it if you would reconcile these two things for me.

  • At one point, Rocco Baldelli made a sliding catch in right field to rob a Mariner of a hit. If you think it's difficult to convince yourself to lay out for a baseball, imagine being in Baldelli's shoes and knowing that you probably won't recover from the exertion for eight or nine weeks. That better be a really important baseball.

  • It is, however, awesome to see Baldelli back in the Majors. He'd make for a way more inspiring story than Josh Hamilton if he (A) could play more often, and (B) were better. I tell you what, Tampa Bay's had a lot of players over the years, but few of them have been boring.

  • Rays with Longoria: 1 run, 1 game
    Rays without Longoria: 24 runs, 3 games

    They are good and we are bad. They also now own leads of 4.5 games over Boston and 8.5 games over New York. I wonder which would feel better for them - a September that comes down to the wire, or a September devoid of any semblance of drama because they already buried their competition. This is incredible.

  • Do we have any reason to believe that Willie Ballgame is a better player than Tuglett? That emphatic blown hamstring last night meant a lot of things, but I'm not convinced it made us worse. Here's to a 2009 with a new little pipsqueak. The incumbent has gotten a little too big for his britches.

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Biggest Contribution: Jose Lopez, +8.7%
Biggest Suckfest: RA Dickey, -28.7%
Most Important AB: Clement DP, -10.2%
Most Important Pitch: Aybar homer, -18.2%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -29.3%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -20.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)

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My reaction today at noon:

Oh hey it is Sunday! I could listen to the M’s game without wrecking my sleep schedule! . . .Actually, I just don’t really care enough to be bothered.

by thewyrm on Aug 10, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Oops

One career start in the minors, in LF… though that WAS in Tacoma.

Still though, for 2009… punt Cairo, get a 4th OF, and you’re even.

by Gomez on Aug 10, 2008 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 5 years of minor league ball

Tuglett’s OPS is .802, and his league’s collective OPSs are .764.

Doing the same thing for Princess Willie, you get .712 and .754. Tuglett is only a year older than Willie was once he got his MLB job, and I’d argue is considerably better as a hitter.

Yeah, I think Tuglett’s better. In fact, if Tuglett’s defense was ~league-average, I would argue you could trade Lopez and assuming Tuglett could deliver .270/.350/.370 numbers (a considerable falloff from his AAA power/OBP), you wouldn’t lose anything, because Lopez is so poor in the field. Yes, you run the risk of having Jose Lopez turn into Carlos Guillen mk II if he develops some more, but you could probably make a deal that nets you more than Ramontiago.

by eponymous_coward on Aug 10, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's much, much better

The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 146 H, 16 BB, 44 G Left

by seattlebruin on Aug 11, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, depends on what your definition of "He" is...

Carlos Guillen >>>>>>>> Jose Lopez.

Carlos always displayed far more plate discipline than Jose Lopez. I wasn’t at all surprised to see Guillen bust out after being given to the Tigers.

My irrational love for Carlos Guillen >>>> my irrational hatred for Jose Lopez. I’ve never once liked Jose Lopez, and always wondered why the heck people had any sort of excitement for him whatsoever. I’ve always liked Carlos Guillen, and wanted him to stay healthy so he could really become an asset for the M’s. I started my blogging career (both as an author and a commenter) around the time he was traded away. Sorta like when I’d just started my serious M’s fandom around the time Spike Owen was traded for Rey Quinones…

My layout.spellcheckDefault goes to 11

by PositivePaul on Aug 11, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woo, for Strasburg and the Rays!

Also, I think I took too much Lorazepam. All the text from the entries is floating around. They’re not anchored down to anything. Lookout Landing is a sea, and our comments are adrift in it dude.

by Frosty Raptor on Aug 10, 2008 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I had that same problem trying to reason with commenters on the fox sports website why the Bedard trade was a bad idea at the time of the trade.

Everyone said I didn’t make anything sense, and that Bavasi was finally doing the right thing (“Get ‘er done Bavasi!”). I just find it funny now how everyone is now saying how bad the trade was and how Bedard is a pussy and we gave up too much for him. I have to defend Bedard, saying he is a good pitcher and that he is doing the right thing by pulling himself out of the game early. Weird how things change.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Aug 10, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well this was before I discovered LL

and USSMariner doesn’t go at a fast enough pace, so I guess I looked in the wrong places for more discussion.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Aug 10, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

I’m no longer going to post there so I doubt I will. Good luck.

by Mariner John on Aug 10, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Resin Isn't Cheating and Mr. X were the main retards

And I can’t figure out why Adam is still a regular poster there.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Aug 10, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't think about that until you just said that

But I don’t understand why he hates DMZ so much, he seems to gripe about him on a regular basis.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Aug 10, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does anyone care what he has to think

and why do people keep talking about the times posters

by Ian? on Aug 10, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea being Jeff would be pretty cool

Young bachelor with a good job living in a city that is good weather all year, not to mention really smart about baseball and has inside connections with the Mariners.

JI/Robert '08!

by Fin on Aug 10, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

Also, I'm always down for some online Grand Theft Auto IV or Rock Band. Gamertag: Phildopip

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are times around here when I think you could found the First Church of Jeff or something

and have at least twenty followers right off the bat

The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 146 H, 16 BB, 44 G Left

by seattlebruin on Aug 11, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Book of Jeff changed my life.

If you’ll excuse me, I need to go punt a cat, kill a clown, and try some stuffed crust pizza.

by BrianL on Aug 11, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

3:14

someone needs a Book of Jeff scripture refresher…

The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 146 H, 16 BB, 44 G Left

by seattlebruin on Aug 11, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

One day this isn't going to be a joke.

And then you’ll all laugh. Except you won’t, because it won’t be a joke. Though you may want to do one of those half chuckles people do when they are unsure how to react to a situation. Oh yeah, that’s right. You’ll half chuckle one day.

by Matthew on Aug 11, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beware the Beer Hall Putsch

in this case, a putsch directed remotely from a beer hall in Plzen, and having nothing whatsoever to do with HitlZOMGNOPOLITICS, and this one will not fail.

Who’s a part of the junta/rebels/military command? No one knows. Yet.

by marc w on Aug 11, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

FYI, that's not actually Faceplant.

Faceplant is one of the smarter posters there.

by BrianL on Aug 10, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

I’ve given myself a break from Baker’s blog because I felt my brain shrinking, (I’m Chip1010 over there, because I’m afraid of the aliens tracking all my screen names), but there are still some smart people commenting on Baker’s blog. I recall Faceplant being one of them.

by Teej on Aug 11, 2008 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please don't do that

you have no idea what Riggleman’s motives were.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Aug 10, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you Riggleman

Fuck you. This is absolutely retarded on so many levels. So what if his defense lacked or has been even worse than usual the last few games.

I dont see you pinch hitting for that bald headed gimpy legged gecko in LF. What about that? Huh? HUH? How about Silva? Where is the penalty for him to threaten his teammates? What are you going to do about that fat ape ass for face piece of suckshit?! FUCK YOU. You bench the one guy who has been a bright spot for our offense of punchless aggression.

Talk about head up ass. I cant wait to see your ass get canned and I can only hope you can stick a candle up your ass so you can read the pink slip clearly.

AHHHHHHH this pisses me off. And this makes up for my lack of appearances and/or GTE from the last few games.

by Slica on Aug 11, 2008 2:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I know it's still 2+ days away

but I’m really excited for Felix Day in Anaheim!

The ♥ Jose Lopez ♥ Watch - 146 H, 16 BB, 44 G Left

by seattlebruin on Aug 11, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

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