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7/8: Open Game Thread

Seattle Mariners at Oakland Athletics, Jul 8, 2008 7:05 PM PDT





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Carlos Silva 4-10 18 18 0 0 0 0 104.2 139 70 68 13 18 42 5.85 1.50


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Justin Duchscherer 9-5 14 14 0 0 0 0 92.0 64 25 20 5 21 59 1.96 .92

Even on a day during which they traded their best player, this pitching matchup still feels like the A's are bragging. We get it, you're smarter than us. Give it a rest already.

Erik Bedard's been shut down through the All Star Break, by the way. I can't think of another player in baseball who's more in need of a couple weeks' rest.

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Holy fuck this lineup sucks.

1. RF Ichiro
2. SS Bloomquist
3. “LF” Ibanez
4. “DH” Vidro
5. 3B Beltre
6. CF Reed
7. “1B” Sexson
8. C Clement
9. “2B” Cairo

Strasburg woo!!

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 8, 2008 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Silver lining though...our best shortstop is playing.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 8, 2008 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll keep playing him until they send him away

He doesn’t have much of a choice. Johjima is hitting just as bad as Vidro, and Burke is a backup-backup catcher. Of course they could put Raul at DH, and Willie as the everyday LF, but…...

by marinator on Jul 8, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if that argument made sense

(And it doesn’t, there are guys in AAA now who could probably hit a little better than him and they’re actually going to be around next year. It would better serve our interests to see if they have what it takes to hit in the majors than to let an old guy who’s finished as a ballplayer take up a roster spot.)

How does that excuse batting him 4th when he is one of your worst hitters?

by OlSalty on Jul 8, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right about the batting order

I doubt Riggleman has much power as far as sending players up or down.

by marinator on Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF

That’s one hell of a middle infield-DH combo

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Vidro

Must be the worst DH cleanup hitter in the history of the world. Who the hell puts an out machine in the middle of the lineup?

by Scrupio on Jul 8, 2008 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

DHs have to go in the middle of the lineup

It’s an unspoken rule in baseball

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I had a crazy thought this afternoon

Should I try opening a game thread where the first post of every subthread has to be about baseball?

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

It would have to logically flow i nto offtopicness

So if Graham says

“Dude’s tRA is really complicated and WARP and stuff”

I can’t respond with

“One day I’m going to buy a 1988 Ford Tempo”

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if it's true?

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need a fuel efficient second car

I can get a 1988 Ford Tempo in excellent condition for like $700

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geo Metros are appreciating

I’d do a mid-80’s Tercel, but I want to spend less than $1000

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good

It’s a fantastic little vehicle

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our school had a Ford Tempo as a drivers ed car.

It caught on fire on the highway. Good learning experience.

by Jed MC on Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ones with the manual are surprisingly reliable

Stay away from the automatic Tempos, those things are POS

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

It would be like the olden days!

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

but for instance I could drift off-topic here kind of by talking about how great the olden days were

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say you save that rule for Felix Days or other games when we should actually pay attention to the game

One of the reasons I like Tits is because I look forward to the often amusing game threads that usually accompany his starts

by Robert on Jul 8, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

If done right

threads would still go off-topic but in a more organic way and therefore I think a lot of the quality subthreads would still exist but the BS would be cut out

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

A US serviceman has the watch outside Da Nang in 1968 about a month before the Tet Offensive. He is keeping an eye on an enemy position some twenty miles distant. All of a sudden, out of the corner of his eye, he sees something flashing through the sky, and moments later, the VC anti-aircraft guns light up the sky. At first he thinks he must be watching a US fighter on a mission, but the silhouette is wrong — too long, and shaped strangely. Wide-eyed, he realizes what he is looking at just in time to see the shape streak off to the horizon. Beside him, the radio crackles to life: air traffic control is going crazy, they spotted a bogey they don’t recognize and they are frantic trying to figure out what’s going on. What, his commander asks him, the hell is going on out there?

"Sir," says the grunt, "I saw commies missing Santa Claus."

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It had photoshops

Just not 1000s of them. There were like 3 and they were cherished

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

All we had in 2005 were what

The Surprised Face, Caution Gil Meche Throwing, S & B’s towel image, and what else?

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Putz Cockpunch?

Or was that early ‘06?

by JLC on Jul 8, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be all for this

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

echo echo echo

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

OH KURT SUZUKI SUCKS

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate headaches

8 excedrin, and a washcloth being held in place by a Seahawks hat not effective enough.

: (

And Jose Lopez isn’t even playing. Fuck.

by Slica on Jul 8, 2008 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha!

Feel the wrath of missing House live that I had to endure.

by Matthew on Jul 8, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You played badminton in PE?

you people are cultured

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

? PE nowadys is all about weird sports.

Juggling, rock climbing, golfing, chinese yoyo, gymnastics, actual yoyo, frisbee, etc.

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

weird

We did football and baseball and golf and soccer and basketball and really nothing more weird than LaCrosse

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man I wish I went to your school.

For highschool we had to climb up a 30 foot ladder, walk across a pole, and then jump off (with harness on us).
Also had to swim for 5 minutes straight with all our clothes on (in case we drowned or something like that).

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's fucked up

we didn’t have a ladder or a pole. or a pool

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh

There are dozens of mountain lakes within 20 miles of my house

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting..

Know of any sites to watch first season online?

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on Jul 8, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ill try those thanks

Anything beats watching the M’s.

At least we don't have Zito's contract.

by ColeFitz on Jul 8, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd season had some great episodes.

overal worse. I’ve heard bad things about season 3.

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's 100% NPH...

As he goes, so goes the show.

by SethGrandpa on Jul 8, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMGWUT

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson homered!

That one’s less interesting. These days, Iuse the major league games to see what our minor leaguers are doing.

by DAMellen on Jul 8, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Richie

he’s swinging at pitches out of the zone just as often as he used to. However, he’s swinging at pitches in the zone far less.

Great eye, tiger.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Is it really?

If we get Tex, it at least means we have the desire to win. If we retain Cairo, it means that we’ve already given up. Unless Willie is gone.

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

From a fan standpoint

Lower expectations, less sadness when we fail

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 8, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Megaboxed

Let me know if you can see the ban message.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

funny....

you banned him while sending an email to that chick…

by PLU Tim on Jul 8, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miller Lite with "great taste"?

How do these commercials get the green light? Why doesn’t Ford just come out and say the new Jaguar can fly?

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Comcast

FIOS is still better than your shit. They plumb a fiber line straight to my goddamn house. Therefore, shut the fuck up.

Yours,
Brian.

by BrianL on Jul 8, 2008 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

give them some credit. it is hard to talk about nothing for hours

they can’t just start talking about beer or classic video games or cheese stuff pizza like we can.

by mark sobba on Jul 8, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW,

From now on I am referring to American Football as gridball to avoid confusion with real football (aka soccer)

by Matthew on Jul 8, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is not a single British English dictionary with the word hick in it

So now you’re just a hypocrite

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The etymology of hick is North American

it’s as American a word as the use of football to mean the sport with the tackling and field goals

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cambridge, Oxford, etc

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

still derives from North American English

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

But North American English is a derivative of British English

that evolved after the split

It’s like saying Italian and Latin are the same

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm loving that he seems to not be able to tell

that I’ve been spouting nonsense for a solid 20+ minutes.

by Matthew on Jul 8, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is funny

because I’m not arguing against you. And your original point was incorrect anyways.

by Matthew on Jul 8, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

no it's not

Hick is an American word. By using hick but referring to British “football” you are blending dialects

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can use an American word to refer to an American culturism

that I do not wish to be a part of. That is in no way hypocritical.

by Matthew on Jul 8, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is Jeff Clement the best catcher in the AL West?

Who’s the best 1b? Kotchman or is Chris Davis already there?

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

He's not the best yet

but overall, the offense in this division really sucks.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

quality hitters in the division

Vlad, Hamilton, Ichiro, Beltre… am I forgetting anyone?

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he seems to be pretty good.

Too bad nobody advocated signing him.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 8, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a cancer.

Carl Everett and Jose Guillen was a saint, but Bradley is a cancer.

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, plus we have a

good LF in Raul, and a quality DH in Vidro. Sure we had RF open, but ignore that.

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 k's?

A’s hitters must feel bad.

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

What was wrong with Phil’s lungs? I missed the diagnosis. Something to do with smoking I’m guessing?

by OlSalty on Jul 8, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to google it today....

The Cornelia Marie website told me….

Blood Clot from falling out of his bunk and cracking a rib.

by PLU Tim on Jul 8, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh

They were setting it up like it had nothing to do with the accident and he had Emphysema or something.

by OlSalty on Jul 8, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of wish we just threw Raul out there at 1B

just to see how he did. I mean, who the hell else are we going to throw out there next year? Raben?

by LantermanC on Jul 8, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

ONE MORE STRIKE

ONE MORE STRIKE
ONE MORE STRIKE

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Woooooo

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 8, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Corco 4 USSM Mod

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

No DMZ emailed me back

with a very serious email thanking me for applying and letting me know they decided to go in a different direction

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

and

Well, this certainly sparked an interesting discussion within the halls of USSM Labs.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Username: Jeff
Password: iwanttomakerobertsbabys!

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach!

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jul 8, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does it seem like Oakland got hosed in this trade?

Or was this trade dictated by Cleveland’s semi-shitty return on Sabathia?

by RafaelCarmona22 on Jul 8, 2008 9:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I logged on to my laptop at 9:30pm PDT to check out the rest of the game.

Only to find out it was already over.

Oh, and damn we got owned. Hey, nice lineup.

by ThundaPC on Jul 8, 2008 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The shootout is the worst invention ever.

I loved it in video games, but it has ruined my life

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I was doing some googling,

and LFoJL I have the best best best best best best best best photoshop opp. for you. Like so unbelieveably good it scares me.

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Jul 8, 2008 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

So, Silva (like Tits) is taking thinly veiled shots at Bedard

His comments in postgame:

“Five innings, 100 pitches, that’s not me,’’ Silva said.

by BrianL on Jul 8, 2008 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Meanwhile, Geoff Baker is seeing things
Duchscherer was outstanding. He threw strikes early in the count, but mixed his pitches well. He’d throw the odd 94 mph fastball to keep the M’s honest, but was more pitcher than thrower in this one.

Justin Duchscherer threw exactly zero pitches faster than 88 miles per hour.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 8, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It turns out, Silva made a between-starts mechanical adjustment. Pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre, an ex-sinkerballer himself, felt Silva was squeezing the ball too hard. So, instead of holding his hands up near his chest as he began his windup - which Silva felt caused his arms to press together and his fingers to grip the ball tighter - he held them at waist level tonight.

“We’ve been trying so many things,’’ Silva said of the work he’s done between starts with Stottlemyre. “We’ve been working so hard.’‘

by JI on Jul 8, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

!!!!!!

Change glove position!!!

Bryan Price has returned!!

by Matthew on Jul 8, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you get bored with that

there’s some great double entendres in there.

by JI on Jul 8, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

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