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As Biggest Suckfests go, Jamie Burke is by far the most awesome Biggest Suckfest we've ever had.

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Biggest Contribution: Cesar Jimenez, +54.0%
Biggest Suckfest: Jamie Burke, -48.2%
Most Important AB: Betancourt DP, -28.6%
Most Important Pitch: Cabrera double, -17.2%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +88.1%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -162.0%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +23.9%
(What is this chart?)

Just going to fly through a handful of bullet points since exhausting holiday weekends leave you in no shape to exert your brain:

  • Earlier this year, when the Padres lost to the Rockies in 22 innings, I thought it must have been the most depressing thing for the few thousand (hundred?) that stuck around until the end. Sure, there's novelty in being able to witness more than six hours of a single baseball game, but that kind of commitment deserves a win or at least something exciting, and I have to imagine that it doesn't feel too good when you reflect on such an evening and realize that you sat in one place for 22 innings to watch your team lose a yawner. And so for this reason I'm thrilled with the way things turned out in the 15th inning today. By sending Jamie Burke out onto the mound, Jim Riggleman played the ultimate entertainment card. How often do position players end up pitching with the game on the line? At that point, there was no way for anyone in the stadium to be disappointed. If Burke did well, everybody would flip their shit. If he sucked, it would still be something to remember. And if he did okay, every little success would be met with supportive, bewildered applause. In short, Riggleman all but guaranteed that everyone watching would go home content, and for that I am thankful. Watching Burke get a swinging strike against Ivan Rodriguez made the afternoon completely worthwhile all on its own. I mean, really? Pudge is never going to hear the end of that. 82mph straight gas.

  • The dugout reception at the end of the inning also made the afternoon completely worthwhile:

    Felixlaughing_medium

  • RRS' average fastball today was 88.8, or basically right on his season average. Given that he ran his pitch count all the way up to 87, that's pretty encouraging. Early indications are that he's doing a good job of getting himself stretched out. He wasn't dominant by any means, but at this point priority #1 is building up some endurance, and only then can we really begin to focus on the results. I'm just hoping the team isn't in too much of a hurry to bump him back to relief. The increased exposure to right-handed hitters would make him statistically worse out of the rotation, but like I said before, you have to find out what he can provide. The potential payoff is too significant to ignore. 

  • I've never been one to pay much attention to Cesar Jimenez, but in the early going so far, he's opened my eyes. I can't believe there are still teams out there that pay millions of dollars for middle relief. It is so. Easy. To. Find.

  • Nate Robertson needed just 100 pitches to get through nine innings against one of the worst Mariner lineups of the year. Shouldn't be long before people start turning this against Erik Bedard, like they seem to want to do with everything these days. I don't blame the guy for being quiet. The public's opinion of him has done a complete 180 in less than three months. Talk about your lousy working conditions. The public doesn't like Richie Sexson, either, but Richie Sexson sucks. Bedard is still good, and he's getting blamed for entirely too much.

  • Kenji Johjima has the fourth-lowest OPS in the Majors among players with at least 200 plate appearances. I wonder how his extension is going to stack up against Michael Young's when it's all said and done.

  • In case you were wondering, Richie doesn't just get booed for strikeouts. He gets booed for all outs. I am downright flabbergasted that he's still a part of the team. Not because we have much of anything better in-house - we don't - but because there would be no quicker and easier way to regain a fraction of the casual fan support that's been wrecked by all the losing.

  • There's no way we finish with a worse record than the Nationals.

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*strolling into my work

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 6, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that too around 6.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But then that leads to Pelekoudas and Riggleman extensions. :(

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riggleman isn't so bad

It’s not his fault this team is built on suck. And he’s actually put some halfway useful lineups together.

I’m not so sure who will be GM, but the chances of landing a saber GM or someone similarly savvy is pretty small whether this team finishes strong or tanks their way to Strasburg.

by Gomez on Jul 7, 2008 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't the Cubs fail in 1999 after he got lucky in 98?

And there should be no excuse to continuously batting Vidro 4th, or batting him at all.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 7, 2008 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still putting Vidro in the lineup consistently

Bavasi is gone now, there’s no need to play him anymore to justify the contract or whatever the hell the logic is, so you’d think a semi-competent manager would just move him to the bench until he’s given his walking papers. He’s our worst starter by far and perhaps the worst regular starter in baseball for his position, yet Riggleman has batted him 3rd or 4th on several occasions. That only makes sense if he’s trying to lose to nab Strasburg or just inexplicably dumb. I think any manager who can’t recognize that Jose Vidro is completely finished as a ballplayer is a bad manager, so unless he’s intentionally trying to sabotage the team’s chances of victory (which would make him my hero but he’s done a pretty poor job of losing so far) it’s pretty much inexcusable to see that.

He’s getting Reed and Clement playing time and that’s good enough, so I’m fine with him for the rest of this year, but if he’s still our manager in ‘09 I’ll be upset.

by OlSalty on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's one lineup spot

It’s stupid, yes, and I’d have to wonder if he’s getting internal orders to continue playing Vidro, but he’s at least switching other guys around and trying to create otherwise effective lineups.

by Gomez on Jul 7, 2008 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the team should convert Burke to a pitcher

It’s not like Johjima is going anywhere.

What if Ichiro patrolled Safeco's outfield while riding a Utahraptor?

by Frosty Raptor on Jul 6, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brooks Kieschnick II

Baller

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Jul 6, 2008 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got banned from DRB will you be my friends?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jul 6, 2008 10:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I fail already.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jul 6, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimenez has looked pretty good

I wouldn’t mind him getting a start or two before the season is over.

If we had lost this game with Rhodes pitching it would have hurt, but Burke pitching made it all worth while. Of course it would been awesome if the guys got him a W.

by MFAN on Jul 6, 2008 10:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I spend 20 hours in a car see Jeffy hit two jacks and there's no wrap up thread?

fuck this place

I’m taking the admin offer at DRB as soon as I hit free agency.

by JI on Jul 6, 2008 10:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

According to Rotoworld

After Joh’s 0/3 today:

“Remarkably, Seattle’s designated hitters are now hitting .201/.256/.296 in 294 at-bats for the season. To put that in perspective, Rey Ordonez was a career .246/.289/.310 hitter.”

by SkipT on Jul 6, 2008 10:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We need a DH....

Who would you suggest?

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, please.

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vidro's rocking an OPS+ of 59

Suck on that dinosaur hatin’ Carl Everett!

What if Ichiro patrolled Safeco's outfield while riding a Utahraptor?

by Frosty Raptor on Jul 6, 2008 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so they sucked enough to lose 3 games today

the artist formerly known as Mere Tantalisers.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 7, 2008 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've got five good hitters...

Obviously Yuni is one of ‘em, Ichiro, Lopez, Adrian and Raul…what are we gonna do about the rest of the line-up?

Clement?

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He swings a lot...

but he’s probably the most powerful hitter on the team.

He reminds me of Ozzie Smith.

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

He’s pretty awful at the plate all things considered, that OBP is absolutely atrocious and the power doesn’t make up for it.

by OlSalty on Jul 6, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The spotty-at-best power he occasionally flashes

Which is why it doesn’t even come close to making up for it.

by OlSalty on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see you argue with this:
but he’s probably the most powerful hitter on the team.

by Last Fan Of Jose Lopez on Jul 6, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My jaw dropped when I read that.

Did this guy not see Beltre’s homerun in San Diego or the retarded, opposite field jack?

I am not going as far to say Beltre is the most powerful, but Yuni couldn’t touch Beltre.

by Wilder. on Jul 7, 2008 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably Sexson.

But you wouldn’t ever know it because he can’t hit the ball anymore.

by Wilder. on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expected this answer

He can’t hit anymore, as you said, so it’s not really very helpful that he’s powerful.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

by Mariner John on Jul 7, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he...what?

There are zero parts of Yuni’s game that are like Ozzie Smith’s. Except the bad parts.

by Matthew on Jul 6, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen him pick it at short?

Do you even know what you’re watching?

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This generation's Ozzie Smith?

yes, he’s that good.

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Via his sig, he may just be a huge Yuni fan

kind of like LFoJL and I irrationally support Loafie

by seattlebruin on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Loafie is good now.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this Yuni's brother?

Have you watched him play defense this year? He has seriously gotten lazy.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I have...

he’s terrific… picks it from both sides…

great fielder.

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We shouldn't bother with people like this.

They feed on attention, positive or negative.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 7, 2008 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picks it from both sides of what...

his body? He’s not picking anything hit more than about fifteen feet from him, that’s for sure…

by seattlebruin on Jul 6, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should start a Yuni's really good at defense side bar?

And show how he continuously lets routine ground balls roll into the outfield as he flails his arm out to pretend to attempt field it.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is too

In fact, baseball reference says he’s most similar to Jim Thorpe. Only the greatest athlete of the first half of the 20th Century.

By the transitive properties of Thorpe, that makes Jeremy Reed a lock for greatest athlete of the first half of the 21st Century.

What if Ichiro patrolled Safeco's outfield while riding a Utahraptor?

by Frosty Raptor on Jul 6, 2008 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man him and Ichiro roving the same outfield

It will be a legendary one, (would be more so with Adam Jones).

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should own this guy with Yuni's terrible RZR and OOZ numbers.

I am too lazy to check.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picks it from both sides?

What, is Yuni an ambedextrious first baseman?

by Wilder. on Jul 7, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's 2005 treating you?

I have rough news about the future.

by Matthew on Jul 6, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God the Seahawks suck

Can’t even beat the fucking Rams.

by Robert on Jul 6, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck Andruw jones

Jim Edmonds is still better.

by JI on Jul 7, 2008 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I know what the problem is

You must be watching some sort of inter-dimensional bizzarro version of Yuni.

by OlSalty on Jul 6, 2008 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's confused Tulowitski with Yuni

They both play at home parks in states with mountains and trees.

What if Ichiro patrolled Safeco's outfield while riding a Utahraptor?

by Frosty Raptor on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

I’m thinking Mario Mendoza. Less leather, slightly more pop.

by Paytheline on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun Mendoza fact

Even Mendoza, in 1980, had a higher OPS for the Ms than Joe Vidro.

by Paytheline on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I asked for a Jose Lopez road jersey for my birthday a few weeks ago

I had a dream that my mom forgot whose jersey I wanted and got me a Jose Vidro jersey instead

by seattlebruin on Jul 6, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who should start for the AL at SS?

Open question to all:

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael Young of course.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This year?

Yuni definitely deserved the spot.

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you prove it?

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 6, 2008 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His der isn't this dramatic...

Yuniesky Betancourt fields his position better than anyone i’ve ever seen.

Cuba Si! Yanqi No!

by Patrick517 on Jul 6, 2008 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if Ichiro patrolled Safeco's outfield while riding a Utahraptor?

by Frosty Raptor on Jul 6, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silly monkeys only

angry monkeys range >> Yuni’s range

by seattlebruin on Jul 6, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't figure out if you're joking,

but I’ll point out that Yuni’s RZR is third-worst in the AL among qualifiers, and he’s dead last in out-of-zone plays.

by Teej on Jul 7, 2008 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for looking that up for me.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 7, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of:

DEEP THROAT: Mr. Mulder, why are those like yourself, who believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life on this earth, not dissuaded by all the evidence to the contrary?

MULDER: Because, all the evidence to the contrary, is not entirely dissuasive.

DEEP THROAT: Precisely.

MULDER: They’re here, aren’t they?

DEEP THROAT: Mr. Mulder, they’ve been here for a long long time.

by Slica on Jul 7, 2008 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DEEP THROAT?!

SMOKING MAN! HE’S THE FUCKING SMOKING MAN!

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 7, 2008 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait.

Wrong episode. Nevermind me.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 7, 2008 4:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does this

have to do with Mark Mulder? Was he a shortstop back in the day? Reverse Ankiel maybe?

by AZSEAfan on Jul 7, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter

he’s a legend, and the ASG is all about honoring those kinds of guys, plus it’s the last year of Yankee Stadium.

by seattlebruin on Jul 6, 2008 11:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We need to hurry up and pull off some trades

Deal Beltre, Betancourt, and Ibanez for minor leaguers and let Bloomquist and Cairo take their spots in the infield and…uh…I guess Johjima would play left. Or Sexson could play left and we could let Joh play firstbase. Leaving Vidro as the dh is key. Or better! Move him to 2b.

rf Ichiro
3b Cairo
2b Vidro
lf Sexson
dh Lopez
1b Johjima
c Clement
cf Reed
ss Bloomquist

That wouldn’t be too far off from what we’re already doing, it would put us right there with the Nats, and if we got good minor leaguers, it might let us be good in the future. Perfect.

by DAMellen on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nats would probably draft a hitter over Strasburg anyway

So we’d be pretty safe finishing second to last.

Jl/Robert '08: Promise for a CoachCage tomorrow!

by Fin on Jul 7, 2008 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baker...always reliable

As for the predicted lame comparisons between Robertson’s 100 pitches vs. our lamo lineup and Bedard’s 100 pitch, five inning outings…thank you Geoff Baker:

“Throwing 100 pitches is not a problem if, like Nate Robertson of the Tigers yesterday, you go nine innings off that. It’s a serious problem if you go five innings as Bedard has done.”

by short on Jul 7, 2008 10:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

dahahahahaha
As I’ve mentioned, Jarrod Washburn has provided five or six innings of one or two-run ball for a month. He might not have the fancy curveball or the hefty strikeout totals, but he’ll give you the same results.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 7, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love this comment:

Posted by downonstrikes

8:27 AM, Jul 07, 2008

Bedard has a toxic personality that sickens the fans, media, and I’m betting the club house too. He said he doesn’t care about the fans in an All Access interview with Brad Adams yesterday. All he cares about is his family and a few close friends in Canada, he said, no one here. Is having a person around who feels that way worth the price of waiting until next year? I don’t think so.

Bedard is out for himself and in the long run he will poison the entire team. Trade him now for the best deal we can get. Games are more enjoyable when you love the players, even if they have their struggles on the field.

And Geoff, Bedard is our bitter-tasting pill and we have already ingested. Spit it (him) out.

Yuck!

by JI on Jul 7, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or being wrong in this case.

But you cannot really argue with someone who thinks earned runs are “results that matter”

by Matthew on Jul 7, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cesar Jimenez is awesome

that is all.

No, no it’s not: Brad Ziegler is the new Pat Neshek.

It’s not just that you can build a bullpen for basically no money, it’s that you can build one BETTER than the Yankees/Red Sox/Whoever. For no money.

by marc w on Jul 7, 2008 11:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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